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View submission: Is nirvana a permanent state?
I'm going to offer a different answer than everyone here, but understand it is only semantics and based on the Dzogchen teachings I have received.
There is only the primordial ground of all, with two paths (or two fruitions). The path of dilution and self grasping leads to samsara (suffering). The path of compassion and skillful means leads to nirvana (bliss).
Samsara and nirvana are both subject to conditions which give rise to these experiences and they are not permanent states. Enlightenment is going beyond samsara and nirvana.
I am unable to elaborate further on this last point, but will end with a quote from the Buddha Shakyamuni Sadhana, "Simply think of him and he grants the glory of the highest bliss: Liberation from samsara and nirvana, the two extremes"
Comment by Godless_Temple at 21/02/2025 at 16:10 UTC
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best answer I have read so far.
Comment by runespoon78 at 22/02/2025 at 01:48 UTC
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wait I always thought that nirvana was the point you reach where you are at balance and peace with everything bad and good, is it specifically extreme good/happiness? and enlightenment is the point where you're at peace with everything?
does that mean that the aim of being a perfect Buddhist is to reach enlightenment specifically, rather than nirvana?
I am kinda new to actually learning about Buddhism, so I apologise if I word anything wrong
Comment by foowfoowfoow at 23/02/2025 at 00:52 UTC
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why would nibbana, as the unconditioned, still be subject to conditions?
does your tradition believe nibbana to be something other than enlightenment?