Comment by randombubble8272 on 06/11/2024 at 21:49 UTC

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I think there’s a huge difference between a forum like Reddit and a podcast though! A podcast is a platform, they have sponsors, people supporting them and backing them. They should not be allowed to spew hate.

I agree the incel movement is terrifying and it used to be limited to the men on the outskirts of society who were virgins without choice but now it’s nearly every man speaking like an incel. I know men who’ve cheated on their exes, slept with random girls and dropped them, spend lots of time on dating apps and objectifying women and these are still speaking like incels. Leaping out of their skin to condemn any woman they think is wrong or has wronged a man, talking about how feminism is the reason men have become isolated.It’s just plain hatred of women all round

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Comment by bananainpajamas at 06/11/2024 at 21:54 UTC

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Exactly! I was explaining the whole progression of this movement to my aunt today who is in her 70s and she was horrified. The isolation of men in most of these situations is related to how they view the patriarchy. When you force men into a box of what it means to be a man, it really does limit things like emotional capacity and humility and all of those things.

Obviously women are harmed by traditional gender roles but I really believe that a lot of harm is also inflicted on men whether they know it or not because they’re trying to conform to these gender roles and don’t always fit. I think a lot of these men were raised to believe that when the time came they would get a wife and a family, with little to no emphasis on things like consent, mutual respect and making yourself a good partner. They’re heavily focused on fake rape allegations, and not the fact that some of their friends are probably rapists.