👽 maxheadroom

Controversial brainfart: Religion is a Psyop.

People believe all kinds of things. And that is the main problem with our brains, as we can be tricked into believing just about anything. Flat earth, UFO's, Superflu, so why would believing in a fictional bearded man in the sky be any different. But for some reason the fact-checking madness is not being applied to certain beliefs that the fact checkers belief to be 'true'.

WTF!?

Are religious brains diferent then scientific ones?

What about journalistic brains? There also appears to be a religious artifact.

But hey, sci-fi also has these strange double standards...

We are born in a psyop, but we are ignorant bullshitters.

8 months ago

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👽 maxheadroom

@m0xee, have a look at this if you have the time to do so https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12326-you_ve_just_been_fucked_by_psyops#t=0

Yeah, it's a rather long video... But it covers a lot of what i was saying. But I'm questioning the religious part of believing. The way humans are targetted online is not very different then the way religion works.

I've been digging these issues for quiet some time and i'm probably cutting a few corners as i don't know how much you know, and I can't write an essay in 1000 chars. :-) · 8 months ago

https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12326-you_ve_just_been_fucked_by_psyops#t=0

👽 maxheadroom

@willowf A journalist should be unbiassed, even a religious journalist... If not, then it's not a good journalist, and it should not be called one. Journalism is the art of being objective and unbiassed to seek for the actual truth. And the only way to do that is to ask the hard questions. And ask them in a way that gets the readers minds going. And even better if the readers disagree, as that will shine a light on the underlying issues. · 8 months ago

👽 m0xee

These people often see psychotherapist for the same purpose religious types see the priest to confess — it doesn't matter for them if therapy indeed works for them.

So they don't find the religion common for their group as acceptable, but they still posess this "mystical consciousness" — it just manifests itself differently for them, "scientifically".

This is what makes me thing that organised religion and this "mystical consciousness" are two different dimensions, well and indeed they are: one is psychological, one is sociological.

And of course organised religion can be used to controll the masses — but that is a different and also complex aspect. · 8 months ago

👽 m0xee

Take evidence-based medicine — for these scientific-religious types if something doesn't have a proven effect, it means that it doesn't have effect at all: "It's all a scam" — but this isn't what evidence-based medicine is at all, most often it means that the effect of a particular substance wasn't studied enough and it can't be prescribed by a doctor, it might still have some effect that might be entirely different — this just wasn't studied properly, nothing more, nothing less. · 8 months ago

👽 m0xee

But I think that some people have this "mystical consciousness" — those who have it might believe in the man in the sky, if they aren't Christian, they might believe in some esotheric practices or witch stuff, and they might be even boldly atheistic — yes, such types do exist too! They just make science their religion — they take every article that gets published in pop-science magazines word for word, no matter that the consensus for this topic was different just a decade ago and it might change again — new things always get discovered, models get more complex, corner cases exist, etc… · 8 months ago

👽 m0xee

I don't thing that there is this "religious vs scientific" dichotomy. And I don't think that everyone religious, Chrisitan in particular, believes there is an actual man in the sky, for most I think it's more like tradition and they think that this lifestyle prevents them from getting into trouble.

I'm not talking about the crowd that likes to post something "You can't be gay as it's against God" — this has nothing to do with religion, they just like to harrass random people online and they use religion as pretext, if religion didn't exist, they would just pick something else. · 8 months ago

👽 willowf

DAE religion bad lol?? I am so smart and controversial for this hitherto unknown position. Also, journalists are religious (anti-science) somehow · 8 months ago