馃懡 chirale

People cannot distinguish a smartphone from Internet anymore. I come to this reading a comment about a downshifted couple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSSzEGYa_sk

At one point the guy, who proudly owns a dumbphone, shows his laptop with Internet connection. A comment point out that he is an hypocrite and a clown.

The smartphone is a portable device with a touch screen, designed to be always online. Social apps are designed to be addictive.

The PC with Internet is another device, less portable and more customizable. The issue of this time is smartphone + Internet + social networks.

Jonathan Haidt correlates mental disorders in youth w. the iphone 4 commercialization.

Are we living in a cyberpunk nightmare?

1 week ago 路 馃憤 half_elf_monk, cobradile94, anthrax, hanzbrix, fab, edanosborne

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馃懡 half_elf_monk

That said, I'm wondering whether the Patriot Act marks a sudden sprint towards the deep end. I imagine a lot more surveillance occured after that. The rise of smartphones and social media also did a number on us, but that's not like... a specific date. 路 6 days ago

馃懡 half_elf_monk

@chirale - idk if there's an exact date as to "when" ... the seashore analogy seems like it might apply here. There's a point where you're definitely on the beach, a point where you're in the water, and a shoreline where... you're not quite sure what it is. History is like that. 路 6 days ago

馃懡 hanzbrix

@chirale I don't think you have to wonder actually, scientists put it around late 80's, early 90's.

Most likely a combination of things caused it, the economic system changes, the digital age and the availability of cheap consumer goods and probably more, contributed to a shift in society.

No one thing was bad per se, but it was a lot of bad or neutral shifts and a lot of the neutral shifts were then subsequently turned bad, by the .1%.

It does all read like a bunch of terrible SciFi novels. 馃槀 路 1 week ago

馃懡 chirale

Added to my book list @half_elf_monk, thank you for the suggestion. It sounds familiar. @hanzbrix I'm wondering when it became dystopic.

What it's confusing is that is a mix of stories we have seen. There's a bit of Orwellian's newspeak, a bit of Huxley on cultural flattening and heterodirection, a bit of 451 and a lot of cyberpunk themes all mixed together. 路 1 week ago

馃懡 half_elf_monk

Yes. @chirale have you read Niel Postman's book "Amusing ourselves to death" ? It's about how digital/screen media changes the way we think. He wrote it in the 1980's as a prediction... but it reads like a history of the last 40 years. 路 1 week ago

馃懡 hanzbrix

We are living the dystopian future, we saw movies about as kids. It is just lacking the glamour and neon, for us to be able to recognize it.

If we at least had proper hovercars, maybe some of this hellscape would be worth it. 路 1 week ago