[2024-12-16T00:52:22Z] <riteo> ugh it does not work on my man
[2024-12-16T00:52:25Z] <riteo> but yeah looks rad
[2024-12-16T03:18:21Z] <dilyn> anyone else had a fun problem with oksh as /bin/sh? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Wwf3xpsSBj/
[2024-12-16T03:21:33Z] <midfavila> oh my god its dilyn
[2024-12-16T03:21:39Z] <midfavila> he returns
[2024-12-16T03:22:05Z] <dilyn> like the chilean miners I have returned
[2024-12-16T03:22:15Z] <midfavila> you know what ive had issues like that with a few shells
[2024-12-16T03:22:30Z] <midfavila> try loksh
[2024-12-16T03:22:48Z] <dilyn> loksh you say
[2024-12-16T03:23:08Z] <midfavila> i normally use loksh as my bin/sh, it's just a minimally patched oksh that tracks upstream closely
[2024-12-16T03:23:11Z] <dilyn> an actually maintained oksh?? omf
[2024-12-16T03:23:17Z] <midfavila> debian et al use it
[2024-12-16T03:23:33Z] <dilyn> maybe I can revert to my wyverkiss fork now then because I was losing my fucking mind over this issue and couldn't figure it out
[2024-12-16T03:23:42Z] <midfavila> as does my new totally sick distro that nobody else will ever use
[2024-12-16T03:23:50Z] <dilyn> thought I had busted something up mighty fierce cus even the earlier release of oksh was giving me this issue
[2024-12-16T03:23:57Z] <midfavila> neb
[2024-12-16T03:24:06Z] <dilyn> well if debian uses it... *dons ubuntu hat*
[2024-12-16T03:24:14Z] <midfavila> ive had a lot of issues with alt shells on kiss
[2024-12-16T03:24:23Z] <midfavila> yash absolutely hates kiss
[2024-12-16T03:24:31Z] <midfavila> ksh is ehhhhhhh
[2024-12-16T03:24:37Z] <dilyn> yeah I've noticed some kiss functions have changed a bit...
[2024-12-16T03:24:39Z] <midfavila> especially dt and 93
[2024-12-16T03:24:44Z] <dilyn> yash has always been a bitch with kiss tbh
[2024-12-16T03:24:55Z] <midfavila> dash is even funky at times iirc
[2024-12-16T03:25:14Z] <dilyn> :v
[2024-12-16T03:25:23Z] <midfavila> its been ages since ive dailied kiss but its part of why im just hebrewing shit now
[2024-12-16T03:25:37Z] <midfavila> homebrewing even
[2024-12-16T03:25:51Z] <dilyn> love a good herb brew
[2024-12-16T03:26:01Z] <midfavila> kiss is bloat pm(1) best friend
[2024-12-16T03:26:14Z] <dilyn> kekw
[2024-12-16T03:26:51Z] <dilyn> also has anybody played with toybox recently? landley seems to have gotten mighty lazy and I don't think anyone's built or used it since october
[2024-12-16T03:26:58Z] <midfavila> i have crossed the irony event horizon and become serious
[2024-12-16T03:27:00Z] <dilyn> considering klogd is currently unbuildable :v
[2024-12-16T03:27:12Z] <midfavila> i havent heard of it no
[2024-12-16T03:27:14Z] <dilyn> mid has finally seen the reason of madness
[2024-12-16T03:27:21Z] <midfavila> look
[2024-12-16T03:27:27Z] <midfavila> if i wasnt a brainlet
[2024-12-16T03:27:34Z] <dilyn> neet incoming
[2024-12-16T03:27:35Z] <midfavila> i would be using dreamos
[2024-12-16T03:27:56Z] <midfavila> and compiling r4rs straight to machine code
[2024-12-16T03:28:27Z] <midfavila> but until i become based enough to complete sicp i have to settle
[2024-12-16T03:28:48Z] <dilyn> don't we all :'(
[2024-12-16T03:28:59Z] <dilyn> well now that I have a solution I'm going afk to watch a movie from before you existed
[2024-12-16T03:29:02Z] <dilyn> I will report back :D
[2024-12-16T03:29:13Z] <midfavila> watch threads
[2024-12-16T03:30:41Z] <midfavila> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1fQx5zmhM
[2024-12-16T03:30:57Z] <midfavila> pov red hat kicks in ur door @ 3am
[2024-12-16T03:31:33Z] <midfavila> i should package barkley for kiss
[2024-12-16T03:35:50Z] <riteo> wait what does yash have wrong
[2024-12-16T03:35:56Z] <riteo> shit works on my end™
[2024-12-16T03:37:01Z] <riteo> I had no issues symlinking it to /bin/sh, although lately yfzf started complaining about getopts out of the blue
[2024-12-16T03:37:10Z] <riteo> meant ytfzf
[2024-12-16T04:02:45Z] <midfavila> its been years since i touched it
[2024-12-16T04:03:06Z] <midfavila> i just remember kiss+yash shitting the bed super hard
[2024-12-16T04:03:13Z] <midfavila> failing without errors
[2024-12-16T04:03:54Z] <midfavila> also i found a 10 cup moka today and im sad because mine is only six cups
[2024-12-16T04:03:57Z] <midfavila> :c
[2024-12-16T04:03:59Z] <midfavila> sadge
[2024-12-16T04:04:34Z] <midfavila> the consignment shop had lots of nice kitchen stuff
[2024-12-16T04:08:00Z] <jason123onirc> I have an issue compiling dbus 
[2024-12-16T04:08:28Z] * midfavila bites tongue
[2024-12-16T04:08:36Z] <jason123onirc> wanted to try xfce4 but I need dbus
[2024-12-16T04:09:39Z] <jason123onirc> errors compiling things is why I gave up on crux but also I had tons of issues with the repos so that is why I also gave up on kiss
[2024-12-16T04:12:49Z] <midfavila> tbf did you give the crux people the same info
[2024-12-16T04:13:13Z] <midfavila> because "i have an issue" is monumentally unhelpful
[2024-12-16T04:13:53Z] <midfavila> env flags, toolchain, build file, error message is the minimum
[2024-12-16T04:16:14Z] <jason123onirc> no 
[2024-12-16T04:16:25Z] <jason123onirc> I did not do that 
[2024-12-16T04:18:13Z] <jason123onirc> Running custom install script '/root/.cache/kiss/proc/3216/build/dbus/meson_post_install.py false'
[2024-12-16T04:18:13Z] <jason123onirc> FAILED: install script '/root/.cache/kiss/proc/3216/build/dbus/meson_post_install.py false' failed with exit code 1.
[2024-12-16T04:18:13Z] <jason123onirc> ninja: job failed: /usr/bin/meson install --no-rebuild
[2024-12-16T04:18:13Z] <jason123onirc> ninja: subcommand failed
[2024-12-16T04:22:16Z] <midfavila> the full error, please. with the other information. in a paste, like 0x0.st
[2024-12-16T04:24:20Z] <jason123onirc> sure
[2024-12-16T04:25:45Z] <jason123onirc> https://paste.debian.net/1340043/
[2024-12-16T04:26:43Z] <jason123onirc> I used the dbus from here https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/kiss-dbus
[2024-12-16T04:30:15Z] <midfavila> `KeyError: "getgrnam(): name not found: 'messagebus'"`
[2024-12-16T04:30:26Z] <midfavila> seems the likely culprit
[2024-12-16T04:31:40Z] <midfavila> https://www.mail-archive.com/ptxdist@pengutronix.de/msg23008.html
[2024-12-16T04:32:02Z] <midfavila> seems like the package expects a massagebus user and group
[2024-12-16T04:32:05Z] <midfavila> message
[2024-12-16T04:32:07Z] <jason123onirc> yeah that is what I thought 
[2024-12-16T04:32:08Z] <jason123onirc> og
[2024-12-16T04:32:10Z] <jason123onirc> oh
[2024-12-16T04:33:02Z] <jason123onirc> it says its in master let me see if updating dbus helps
[2024-12-16T04:33:44Z] <jason123onirc> I found a few other issues I should open an issue about it
[2024-12-16T04:33:49Z] <jason123onirc> with other packages
[2024-12-16T04:39:30Z] <midfavila> makes me wonder how an ebluez would work
[2024-12-16T04:39:50Z] <midfavila> i cant imagine theres something uniquely complex about bluez vs iwd
[2024-12-16T04:39:50Z] <jason123onirc> worked when I updated dbus 
[2024-12-16T04:40:09Z] <midfavila> or other dbusless mods
[2024-12-16T04:40:38Z] <jason123onirc> there is a dbusless mod for firefox 
[2024-12-16T04:40:45Z] <jason123onirc> but I don't think anything for xfce4
[2024-12-16T04:51:06Z] <jason123onirc> errors is part of the fun sometimes
[2024-12-16T06:33:21Z] <dilyn> sounds like you're just missing the messagebus group dbus requires
[2024-12-16T06:33:40Z] <dilyn> e.g. https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/kiss-dbus/src/branch/main/dbus/dbus/post-install
[2024-12-16T06:34:12Z] <dilyn> does the group exist?
[2024-12-16T06:35:21Z] <dilyn> > worked when I updated dbus
[2024-12-16T06:35:22Z] <dilyn> ignore me
[2024-12-16T06:35:54Z] <midfavila> you utter ignoramus
[2024-12-16T06:36:04Z] <midfavila> you have been EGGED dilyn
[2024-12-16T06:36:07Z] <midfavila> EGGED
[2024-12-16T06:36:17Z] <midfavila> and by the likes of me no less
[2024-12-16T06:36:28Z] <midfavila> truly embarassing :3c
[2024-12-16T07:58:42Z] <sewn> 104 messages wtf did I miss
[2024-12-16T07:58:54Z] <sewn> omg dilyn hi dilyn
[2024-12-16T08:00:00Z] <sewn> dilyn: mee mee toybox is awful
[2024-12-16T11:01:44Z] <kmf> hello, are the crate file links in the cbindgen pacakge written by hand or generated, and if they are generated then how
[2024-12-16T13:23:50Z] <ghodawalaaman> hello, I DDG kiss linux and found kisslinux.org and another one hosted on Github. which one is original?
[2024-12-16T13:59:52Z] <WhyNotHugo> ghodawalaaman: url in topic links to gh
[2024-12-16T14:00:11Z] <WhyNotHugo> also explains that the .org has been taken over
[2024-12-16T14:23:01Z] <ghodawalaaman> I see
[2024-12-16T14:23:04Z] <ghodawalaaman> WhyNotHugo: Thanks
[2024-12-16T14:23:27Z] <ghodawalaaman> this is my first time installing kisslinux, I am nervous
[2024-12-16T14:27:27Z] <midfavila> ghodawalaaman: just make sure to follow the first-time install guide and you'll be fine
[2024-12-16T14:27:48Z] <midfavila> if you have any problems, we're always happy to help troubleshoot
[2024-12-16T14:27:51Z] <midfavila> :3
[2024-12-16T14:28:51Z] <ghodawalaaman> why all the repos on Github is archived?
[2024-12-16T14:29:29Z] <ghodawalaaman> I hope it's not discontinued
[2024-12-16T15:49:44Z] <midfavila> use kiss-community
[2024-12-16T15:49:49Z] <midfavila> dylan is farming 
[2024-12-16T15:50:00Z] <midfavila> gotta get those potatoes
[2024-12-16T15:50:37Z] <midfavila> lmao our finance and deputy prime minister just resigned
[2024-12-16T15:50:44Z] <midfavila> same lady who called a recession "just vibes"
[2024-12-16T15:50:49Z] <midfavila> on national tv