2020-06-02T03:17:41 #kisslinux <icyphox> We need to have a KISS BSD.
2020-06-02T03:17:57 #kisslinux <icyphox> OpenBSD is nice -- I'm on it right now -- but they don't debloat the packages!
2020-06-02T03:21:28 #kisslinux <dilynm> The next community project ;)
2020-06-02T03:28:53 #kisslinux <icyphox> I wonder how hard it'll be.
2020-06-02T03:29:26 #kisslinux <icyphox> Surely not too bad. Just have to install the baseXX.tgz set + 'kiss' things.
2020-06-02T03:29:28 #kisslinux <icyphox> Hmm.
2020-06-02T03:29:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> Oh, and we'll need BSD specific repos I think.
2020-06-02T05:57:52 #kisslinux <dylan02> o/
2020-06-02T05:59:37 #kisslinux <E5ten> and you could still have the BSD version clone the main repo and have the BSD repo link any packages it uses that're also in main repo to that one, so they don't have to be separately kept up to date
2020-06-02T06:00:40 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yup
2020-06-02T06:21:38 #kisslinux <dylan02> Firefox ESR build failed. >_<
2020-06-02T06:21:52 #kisslinux <dylan02> I think we need to set --without-system-libvpx once again.
2020-06-02T10:55:05 #kisslinux <dylan02> The website should be more or less responsive now...
2020-06-02T10:55:39 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'd love to hear feedback from those with mobile devices.
2020-06-02T11:00:21 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> much better on mobile (ios) :). no more overlapping containers, which was making content selection difficult.
2020-06-02T11:00:46 #kisslinux <dylan02> Thanks!
2020-06-02T11:01:00 #kisslinux <dylan02> Would you say it's usable/readable now?
2020-06-02T11:01:17 #kisslinux <dylan02> Try a page like this one as well: https://k1ss.org/wiki/help/adding-a-page
2020-06-02T11:01:34 #kisslinux <dylan02> (From the WIP Wiki which will be fully public soon)
2020-06-02T11:05:40 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> much more readable now.  the wiki pace is missing the border piping decoration, which i kinda like since it makes multiline selection easier (matter of preference tho).
2020-06-02T11:07:51 #kisslinux <dylan02> Thanks for the feedback. Appreciate it.
2020-06-02T11:09:01 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> np
2020-06-02T11:14:40 #kisslinux <mcf> i'm still getting some overlap of the sidebar and page content on netsurf
2020-06-02T11:14:57 #kisslinux <rircC1FE5> o/
2020-06-02T11:15:22 #kisslinux <claudia02> dylan02: when you zoom in the website, the layout gets messed up
2020-06-02T11:16:55 #kisslinux <dylan02> On a phone or desktop/laptop?
2020-06-02T11:18:19 #kisslinux <claudia02> on a desktop in ff
2020-06-02T11:19:18 #kisslinux <dylan02> Does the sidebar go above the content? It might just be the media query triggering on zoom (as layout can no longer fit).
2020-06-02T11:19:47 #kisslinux <claudia02> yes exactly that
2020-06-02T11:20:03 #kisslinux <claudia02> and the scroll jump is much bigger
2020-06-02T11:21:04 #kisslinux <claudia02> https://imgur.com/a/F3dvYLM
2020-06-02T11:21:11 #kisslinux <claudia02> this is one scroll step between
2020-06-02T11:22:23 #kisslinux <dylan02> I think I'll swap to a middle-ground between responsive and what it was prior. Doing responsive layout with fixed width elements is too messy.
2020-06-02T11:35:48 #kisslinux <dylan02> claudia02: This should be fixed now. Refresh in 2-3 minutes. :)
2020-06-02T11:43:03 #kisslinux <claudia02> dylan02: I think its good now. It still happens that the navigation moves about, but only from a zoomfactor I would say its big.
2020-06-02T11:43:39 #kisslinux <claudia02> *already big
2020-06-02T11:45:01 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'm about to push another change. Should make things better.
2020-06-02T11:45:11 #kisslinux <dylan02> By the navigation moving do you mean the centering?
2020-06-02T11:47:31 #kisslinux <claudia02> I mean the sidebar still moved above the content
2020-06-02T11:47:35 #kisslinux <claudia02> but later
2020-06-02T11:47:56 #kisslinux <dylan02> Ah
2020-06-02T11:48:44 #kisslinux <claudia02> (:
2020-06-02T11:49:31 #kisslinux <claudia02> I have a 13" screen if thats important
2020-06-02T12:09:07 #kisslinux <dylan02> claudia02: Try now.
2020-06-02T12:10:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> There still seems to be the odd case where the media query fires too late.
2020-06-02T12:27:35 #kisslinux <claudia02> dylan02: Its like before. At 110% zoom the navigation moves above :2020-06-02T12:29:40 #kisslinux <dylan02> Working on it.
2020-06-02T12:30:11 #kisslinux <dylan02> It's tricky given the fixed-width everything.
2020-06-02T12:38:10 #kisslinux <claudia02> maybe just kindly refer to the txt files for mobile? (Mobile go away!) :P
2020-06-02T12:38:50 #kisslinux <ectlunya> would it make more sense to just wrap the lines instead of manually breaking them
2020-06-02T12:39:58 #kisslinux <ectlunya> also if more of the pages become part of the wiki the sidebar might be able to fit on top again to avoid the jumping when resizing
2020-06-02T12:43:01 #kisslinux <dylan02> claudia02: Just pushed another fix. It should be good now.
2020-06-02T12:43:19 #kisslinux <dylan02> ectlunya: We cannot wrap the lines as white-space is used for layout.
2020-06-02T12:43:41 #kisslinux <dylan02> ectlunya: The plan is to make the whole site a fixed 80 columns wide (it's too narrow right now).
2020-06-02T12:44:24 #kisslinux <ectlunya> would the 80 columns include the sidebar
2020-06-02T12:44:34 #kisslinux <dylan02> No
2020-06-02T12:44:35 #kisslinux <ectlunya> ive noticed that some of the pages are wider than others
2020-06-02T12:45:37 #kisslinux <dylan02> It'll be 80 for the body and 27 for the sidebar (sidebar can be lowered to an even 25).
2020-06-02T12:53:17 #kisslinux <claudia02> dylan02: I still messes up above 110% zoom. But as said at 110% its allready on the bigger side
2020-06-02T13:31:27 #kisslinux <claudia02> dylan02: Now I can zoom to 120% :D
2020-06-02T13:35:19 #kisslinux <mps> firefox have 'responsive design mode' -> ctrl-shift-m
2020-06-02T13:45:53 #kisslinux <dylan02> mps: Yeah. I've been using it for years and years.
2020-06-02T13:46:25 #kisslinux <mps> ah, sorry then for pretending to be smart
2020-06-02T13:48:27 #kisslinux <mps> dylan02: I was out of channel for some time (busy with alpine release and some private works). all the well on your island?
2020-06-02T13:52:03 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yeah. All is well here. I _am_ a little worried about tourism as everyone relies on it (in Greece) for their income (for the entire year!).
2020-06-02T13:53:33 #kisslinux <mps> heh, yes, but I read that our people (Serbia) will go again in Greece without fear
2020-06-02T13:54:17 #kisslinux <mps> Greece is prefered for most of us
2020-06-02T13:55:20 #kisslinux <mps> preferred destination for summer, I mean
2020-06-02T13:58:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> Oh yeah! A lot come to this island for the Summer.
2020-06-02T13:59:29 #kisslinux <mps> :)
2020-06-02T15:06:15 #kisslinux <konimex> hmmm looks like I can't upgrade firefox
2020-06-02T15:06:41 #kisslinux <konimex> something about icu(?), I'll need to see the logs
2020-06-02T15:50:47 #kisslinux <dylan02> konimex: They both built fine for me here. I'm about to start builds for the -bin packages (in clean chroots). Will let you know if I can reproduce.
2020-06-02T16:21:24 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylan02: Why do you use %% for static strings you wanna strip from variable expansion? There's no longer or shorter version of a non-glob so % would be the same lol
2020-06-02T16:21:46 #kisslinux <E5ten> Not saying it's worth changing cuz it has no effect and would just clutter commit history just pointing it out
2020-06-02T16:22:50 #kisslinux <konimex> https://github.com/joshiemoore/snakeware
2020-06-02T16:24:46 #kisslinux <konimex> btw, say, is it possible to build cpython with... pypy? not familiar with python so I might be wrong in assuming that cpython can be replaced by pypy
2020-06-02T16:24:50 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylan02: In regards to the website, I don't really remember how it was on mobile before but I have vague memory that it wasn't great and it seems to be really good now
2020-06-02T16:31:39 #kisslinux <dylan02> Heh
2020-06-02T16:31:44 #kisslinux <dylan02> It'll be even better on mobile once I'm done.
2020-06-02T16:33:30 #kisslinux <E5ten> nice
2020-06-02T16:36:51 #kisslinux <ectlunya> I think the style page would look better if you removed the single dash before the number
2020-06-02T16:37:10 #kisslinux <dilynm> The website on mobile was basically perfect aside from constantly having to resize it ever-so-slighty for half the pages
2020-06-02T16:41:29 #kisslinux <ectlunya> or add a few more. One lone dash looks a bit odd to me
2020-06-02T16:42:22 #kisslinux <E5ten> lol on desktop the kiss site has always been fucked up for me cuz the alignment of the boxes was all wrong, just realized I didn't have a monospace font set to my "fixed" font type in falkon I'm a dumbass lol
2020-06-02T16:42:27 #kisslinux <E5ten> looks good now that I've fixed that
2020-06-02T16:48:27 #kisslinux <dilynm> Monospace all day forever and always
2020-06-02T16:54:23 #kisslinux <dylan02> ectlunya: Thanks for the suggestion. Looks much nicer as: [0001]----------------------
2020-06-02T17:01:21 #kisslinux <dylan02> Oh yeah. The style guide numbers are now working tags. https://k1ss.org/style#[0202]
2020-06-02T17:01:23 #kisslinux <dylan02> Example
2020-06-02T17:52:03 #kisslinux <illiliti> our firefox works on wayland?
2020-06-02T17:57:00 #kisslinux <dylan02> illiliti: Just needs a config change. Look at the mywayland repository.
2020-06-02T18:00:46 #kisslinux <illiliti> --enable-default-toolkit=cairo-gtk3-wayland
2020-06-02T18:00:50 #kisslinux <illiliti> looks like is it
2020-06-02T18:30:53 #kisslinux <ectlunya> dylan02: the package system page looks like it starts one line lower than all the others
2020-06-02T18:35:52 #kisslinux <ectlunya> Overall I really like the redesign. It looks very clean
2020-06-02T18:39:15 #kisslinux <E5ten> fucking fontconfig pisses me off so fucking much
2020-06-02T18:39:59 #kisslinux <E5ten> I tried to do some shit to make it uses noto color emoji for my emojis, and now it's using my monospace font (hack) as my sans-serif font, which is being used on twitter and my taskbar so it looks fucking horrible, and nothing I try will make it stop
2020-06-02T18:41:24 #kisslinux <dylan02> ectlunya: Fixed. Thanks
2020-06-02T18:46:08 #kisslinux <dilynm> Fonts are far too complicated tbh
2020-06-02T22:26:13 #kisslinux <E5ten> ok well after a ridiculous amount of fuckery I finally got it to not have my browser use hack in twitter, but my taskbar still uses it but like that's less important my taskbar can look like shit who cares
2020-06-02T23:02:14 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Not sure when it went live but the new website theme fits much better on smaller screens