2021-03-23T00:03:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> 14m27s build time for llvm
2021-03-23T00:03:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> feels good to not have to buy a dual socket board kappa
2021-03-23T00:03:44 #kisslinux <midfavila1> >kappa
2021-03-23T00:03:50 #kisslinux <midfavila1> go back to twitch and never return
2021-03-23T00:04:03 #kisslinux <midfavila1> begone, t h o t
2021-03-23T00:04:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> lel
2021-03-23T00:07:47 #kisslinux <jslick> dilyn in case you missed it, we will be making a new web browser, k1ssweb.  It will be lightweight, featuring only gtk2, gtk3, and gtk4.  It will be built with a combination of perl, python2, python3, and cmake.  Tabs should generally not exceed 20MB, and we will target <10000 LOC.
2021-03-23T00:08:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> woah woah woah
2021-03-23T00:08:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> holup
2021-03-23T00:08:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> qt5?
2021-03-23T00:08:43 #kisslinux <midfavila1> fuck no
2021-03-23T00:08:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> #veto
2021-03-23T00:08:54 #kisslinux <midfavila1> not your project >:C
2021-03-23T00:09:22 #kisslinux <midfavila1> this is the work of the browser department
2021-03-23T00:10:08 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]1> autoconf?
2021-03-23T00:10:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> should probably force autoconf 2.12 for legacy systems
2021-03-23T00:10:43 #kisslinux <midfavila1> autoconf will be used to build our special fork of cmake
2021-03-23T00:10:58 #kisslinux <midfavila1> it needs to use included binary libraries that have been modified for our usecases
2021-03-23T00:12:11 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]1> sounds good
2021-03-23T00:13:04 #kisslinux <midfavila1> of course, these libraries are built against uclibc
2021-03-23T00:13:12 #kisslinux <midfavila1> because we don't want to introduce unneeded bloat
2021-03-23T00:13:34 #kisslinux <midfavila1> we expect KISS to change in accordance with k1ssweb
2021-03-23T00:13:37 #kisslinux * midfavila1 nods
2021-03-23T00:14:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> mfw KISSfoundation is the new Mozilla Foundation
2021-03-23T00:15:03 #kisslinux <midfavila1> you're gonna be cancelled and thrown out for twitter remarks
2021-03-23T00:15:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> jokes on you I deleted my twitter
2021-03-23T00:15:19 #kisslinux <midfavila1> and then i'm firing a quarter of the team
2021-03-23T00:15:23 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]1> #woke
2021-03-23T00:15:24 #kisslinux <midfavila1> joke's on your joke
2021-03-23T00:15:29 #kisslinux <midfavila1> i captured it in the wayback machine
2021-03-23T00:15:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> I will cancel cancel culture
2021-03-23T00:17:01 #kisslinux <midfavila1> I like how everyone is constantly saying "just buy more RAM bro it's cheap now" and it's like
2021-03-23T00:17:04 #kisslinux <midfavila1> no, it's not
2021-03-23T00:17:06 #kisslinux <midfavila1> it's cheapER
2021-03-23T00:17:14 #kisslinux <midfavila1> huge emphasis on the -er
2021-03-23T00:17:39 #kisslinux <midfavila1> bold, underline, and italics
2021-03-23T00:18:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> definitely won't actually see the prices on PC hardware we should be seeing until a few months after this pandemic
2021-03-23T00:19:16 #kisslinux <midfavila1> meanwhile I'm over here buying hardware a generation behind at dirt-cheap prices lmao
2021-03-23T00:32:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> do we know why stallman is back on the board of fsf
2021-03-23T00:33:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> did they just miss his odd, gnomelike features
2021-03-23T00:33:41 #kisslinux <midfavila1> they probably realized that none of them are autistic enough to get up on stage and scream about free software all day
2021-03-23T00:34:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> hm
2021-03-23T00:34:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> well I will continue to argue that FSF is bad
2021-03-23T00:34:48 #kisslinux <midfavila1> did you see my BSD meme
2021-03-23T00:37:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> obvi
2021-03-23T00:38:10 #kisslinux <midfavila1> then I rest my case
2021-03-23T00:41:48 #kisslinux <acheam> k1ss.net now redirects to k1sslinux.org
2021-03-23T00:42:38 #kisslinux <acheam> as does k1ss.armaanb.net and kiss.armaanb.net
2021-03-23T01:31:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> :o yay!
2021-03-23T01:31:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> heroes
2021-03-23T01:39:42 #kisslinux <acheam> :)
2021-03-23T02:45:58 #kisslinux <acheam> kissbot: wow are my words of the days never good enough?
2021-03-23T02:46:09 #kisslinux <acheam> s/kissbot/kiedtl/g
2021-03-23T02:46:10 #kisslinux <kissbot> <acheam> kiedtl: wow are my words of the days never good enough?
2021-03-23T02:55:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> ho hum cherie, zfs is not for me
2021-03-23T02:55:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> :(
2021-03-23T03:09:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> now you know how I feel when it comes to songs of the day, acheam
2021-03-23T03:09:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> suffer in silence
2021-03-23T03:10:16 #kisslinux <acheam> I SHALL SUFFER WITH VOLUME
2021-03-23T03:11:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'm more of a suffer with mass kind of guy
2021-03-23T03:21:00 #kisslinux <travankor> dilyn: did you fall for the btrfs meme :o
2021-03-23T03:21:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> btrfs is gross
2021-03-23T03:21:27 #kisslinux <travankor> agreed
2021-03-23T03:21:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> I want to use zfs instead of ext4 for the first time in... ever
2021-03-23T03:21:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> but for some reason ./configure won't let me make it a builtin
2021-03-23T03:22:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> use based minix
2021-03-23T03:23:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> genius. it solves all my problems
2021-03-23T03:41:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's what you pay me for
2021-03-23T03:47:55 #kisslinux <acheam> but i like btrfs :(
2021-03-23T03:48:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> BTRFS is decent
2021-03-23T03:48:17 #kisslinux <acheam> its like zfs, but it just werks
2021-03-23T03:48:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> people meme about it losing a lot of data but I've never had it fail
2021-03-23T03:48:46 #kisslinux <acheam> it used to do that earlier in its development, in the last 5 years, its been pretty rock solid stable
2021-03-23T03:49:15 #kisslinux <acheam> idk how it compares to zfs though, never used it
2021-03-23T03:49:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> ZFS would probably be good for a file server.
2021-03-23T03:49:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> outside of that I have zero personal interest in it
2021-03-23T03:57:43 #kisslinux <midfavila1> god, I fucking *hate* cloudflare
2021-03-23T03:58:26 #kisslinux <midfavila1> "enable javascript, connect to google, enable cookies, and let us MITM your traffic, cuck"
2021-03-23T03:58:37 #kisslinux <midfavila1> like no, fuck off
2021-03-23T03:59:17 #kisslinux <midfavila1> makes it impossible to access sites using a text browser
2021-03-23T03:59:18 #kisslinux <midfavila1> :|
2021-03-23T04:02:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> but but btrfs facebook tech
2021-03-23T04:02:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> zfs glorious bsd tech
2021-03-23T04:02:31 #kisslinux <midfavila1> BSD is for corporate shills
2021-03-23T04:02:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> :o
2021-03-23T04:03:13 #kisslinux <travankor> dilyn: sun tech*
2021-03-23T04:03:41 #kisslinux <travankor> and it's CDDL licensed
2021-03-23T04:03:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> beloved cddl
2021-03-23T04:04:38 #kisslinux <travankor> CDDL: the copyleft license that bsd people like
2021-03-23T04:05:03 #kisslinux <travankor> except OpenBSD
2021-03-23T04:10:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> openbsd is the way
2021-03-23T04:34:20 #kisslinux <acheam> its an interesting one for sure
2021-03-23T04:34:40 #kisslinux <acheam> copy left with some of the freedoms of permissive licenses
2021-03-23T04:41:43 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-03-23T04:51:50 #kisslinux <acheam> hey testuser_[m]
2021-03-23T04:52:11 #kisslinux <acheam> how's it going?
2021-03-23T04:56:27 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> fine
2021-03-23T04:56:56 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Lol some distro packaged python as 49.2.1 on repology
2021-03-23T04:58:19 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> oh i think its a conflict with python-setuptools
2021-03-23T05:09:46 #kisslinux <acheam> damn theyre really on the bleeding edge
2021-03-23T05:23:45 #kisslinux <midfavila1> what the fuck you guys
2021-03-23T05:23:54 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> dilyn: lmao nvm, firefox was segfaulting due to me having two libc's installed on my system
2021-03-23T05:24:00 #kisslinux <midfavila1> i just realized that I've been mentally five hours behind everything for the past god knows how long
2021-03-23T05:24:13 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> i had musl in /usr/musl for statically linking stuff
2021-03-23T05:24:51 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> weird that it would segfault though given that it was linked against glibc
2021-03-23T05:35:28 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> oh just had to run an ldconfig
2021-03-23T07:54:36 #kisslinux <travankor> i don't understand ldconfig
2021-03-23T07:54:56 #kisslinux <travankor> why does stuff not work until you run ldconfig
2021-03-23T09:33:11 #kisslinux <travankor> nxghtmvrx: mtgap layout is fun lol
2021-03-23T09:33:48 #kisslinux <travankor> vim doesn't seem too bad with this
2021-03-23T09:37:42 #kisslinux <travankor> what isn't fun is rust compilation :s
2021-03-23T09:38:03 #kisslinux <travankor> uffff
2021-03-23T10:02:10 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Lmao
2021-03-23T10:04:29 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Good thing I guess. It's most of these alternate layouts don't have particular ideas behind them so they are not bringing enough change to be worthy in my eyes. Haven't heard much about mtgap tho as it seems new or unpopular so I may be wrong
2021-03-23T10:04:58 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> s/It's/It's just/
2021-03-23T10:04:59 #kisslinux <kissbot> <nxghtmvrx> Good thing I guess. It's just most of these alternate layouts don't have particular ideas behind them so they are not bringing enough change to be worthy in my eyes. Haven't heard much about mtgap tho as it seems new or unpopular so I may be wrong
2021-03-23T10:06:17 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> What are you compiling? ff?
2021-03-23T10:13:17 #kisslinux <travankor> yes
2021-03-23T10:13:37 #kisslinux <travankor> the build oom'd my other running programs before ooming itself
2021-03-23T10:14:18 #kisslinux <travankor> the other layout i would choose is colemak-dh mod
2021-03-23T10:14:24 #kisslinux <travankor> seems more popular i guess
2021-03-23T10:18:23 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> travankor: ff binary is uploaded to repo-main releases btw, but dilyn forgot to make a package
2021-03-23T11:52:34 #kisslinux <travankor> if there is ff-bin how about chromium-bin?
2021-03-23T11:54:52 #kisslinux <travankor> webkit is the easiest to build btw
2021-03-23T11:55:34 #kisslinux <travankor> arguably all browsers should be -bin, since building browsers is not fun
2021-03-23T12:06:09 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> they must be not only binary but static also imo
2021-03-23T12:06:39 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> So you don't need to bother with all their shit they want to depend on
2021-03-23T12:32:26 #kisslinux <konimex> has anyone successfully built firefox/chromium statically? I don't think it's possible
2021-03-23T12:35:26 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> for chromium you can use bundled libs for a ton of deps, so maybe its doable since it doesnt even need gtk
2021-03-23T12:36:21 #kisslinux <konimex> bundled libs and static are different beasts though, but looking forward to it anyway, to see how the build process would work
2021-03-23T12:39:39 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> nss might be a big issue
2021-03-23T12:40:52 #kisslinux <travankor> how?
2021-03-23T12:41:11 #kisslinux <travankor> chromium can build without nss probably
2021-03-23T12:44:47 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> cuz nss doesnt have any static libs, and nss is used for some certificate stuff i guess
2021-03-23T12:45:23 #kisslinux <travankor> chromium has boringssl, idk about certificates
2021-03-23T12:53:49 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> i think it should be doable to get chromium down to just nss and wayland/xorg deps
2021-03-23T12:53:59 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> but i dont think anyone is interested in building it :p
2021-03-23T12:54:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> I don't think it's possible to build firefox statically unless you want to get really deep in the weeds with it
2021-03-23T12:54:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> I think chromium has a hard dep on nss, but maybe I've done a bad job checking :v
2021-03-23T12:56:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> I don't even think chromium bundles nss anymore...
2021-03-23T12:56:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> must've been too much work building it statically haha
2021-03-23T12:57:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> oh no they still have it! neat. Maybe I'll just use theirs
2021-03-23T12:59:40 #kisslinux <foxbox> Hi
2021-03-23T12:59:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> o/
2021-03-23T13:02:00 #kisslinux <travankor> alternatively, i could use guix
2021-03-23T13:02:14 #kisslinux <travankor> and pull in bloated stuff from there
2021-03-23T13:03:18 #kisslinux * travankor wonders if it works on musl
2021-03-23T13:03:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> fat chance
2021-03-23T13:04:52 #kisslinux <travankor> if guile works, it should work
2021-03-23T13:05:08 #kisslinux <travankor> but alpine being on an old guile verision isn't reassuring
2021-03-23T13:12:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> :(  http://ix.io/2TQY
2021-03-23T13:12:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> i love nonobvious errors
2021-03-23T13:13:43 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> lmfao
2021-03-23T13:14:07 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> What a lovely view
2021-03-23T13:42:45 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> the ungoogled flags header might be missing the `ifdef BUILD_FLAG` thingies
2021-03-23T13:49:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> you obviously know more about these patches than i
2021-03-23T14:55:20 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://pockit.ai/ who was talking about modularized stuff before?  necromansy midfavila maybe
2021-03-23T14:57:49 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> nxghtmvrx in terms of qemu, drew devault had a nice little piece on the practicality of qemu: https://drewdevault.com/2018/09/10/Getting-started-with-qemu.html
2021-03-23T15:05:59 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> @hellboy2d you can try apulse as a wrapper for pulseaudio (instead of having pulseaudio itself): https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse
2021-03-23T15:06:08 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> not sure if that works with Steam though
2021-03-23T15:11:34 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> I think its harddep for steam so it won't work
2021-03-23T15:11:48 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Thanks for the link. I'll read
2021-03-23T15:12:55 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> i dont think steam links to pulseaudio, but i had a ton of audio issues in some games without pulse so...
2021-03-23T15:14:04 #kisslinux <nxghtmvrx> Yeah its basically useless anyways
2021-03-23T16:20:15 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> test
2021-03-23T16:25:02 #kisslinux <acheam> test passed!
2021-03-23T16:25:24 #kisslinux <acheam> not self hosting anymore?
2021-03-23T16:28:14 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> No I'm still self hosting, just received a DM invite from the nickserv, so was checking if it kicked me or something
2021-03-23T16:28:29 #kisslinux <acheam> ah okay
2021-03-23T16:28:39 #kisslinux <acheam> your hostname is matrix.org
2021-03-23T16:28:57 #kisslinux <acheam> which made me think no more self hosting
2021-03-23T16:29:24 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> i guess that's cuz the bot is hosted on matrix.org
2021-03-23T16:29:49 #kisslinux <acheam> oh okay, so you're not self hosting that guy
2021-03-23T16:31:22 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> what happened to the blog posts on your site
2021-03-23T16:31:39 #kisslinux <acheam> oh I just did a hard purge on them
2021-03-23T16:31:48 #kisslinux <acheam> switched to hugo, and changed how the site was structured
2021-03-23T16:31:51 #kisslinux <acheam> it broke all the backlinks
2021-03-23T16:32:15 #kisslinux <acheam> I didn't know that you read it
2021-03-23T16:32:55 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> Lol i check for new posts pretty often
2021-03-23T16:33:20 #kisslinux <acheam> I should post more then haha
2021-03-23T16:35:50 #kisslinux <acheam> I wonder what this is
2021-03-23T16:35:52 #kisslinux <acheam> https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=54687
2021-03-23T16:35:55 #kisslinux <acheam> somebody linked kiss in it
2021-03-23T16:46:46 #kisslinux <acheam> ah it translates to https://envs.sh/_7.txt
2021-03-23T17:01:20 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> https://www.bell-labs.com/institute/blog/plan-9-bell-labs-cyberspace/
2021-03-23T17:07:52 #kisslinux <acheam> kiss on 9front when?
2021-03-23T17:10:13 #kisslinux <acheam> https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf20bce89ef96d4b6/transfer-of-plan-9-to-the-plan-9-foundation
2021-03-23T17:34:05 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> acheam some of the other comments are pretty funny too
2021-03-23T17:35:21 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> "because of this crap, I returned to kubuntu"
2021-03-23T17:48:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> which one of you shills are infiltrating russian-language internet forums
2021-03-23T17:48:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> also v based on the plan9 news
2021-03-23T17:50:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> man, my fucking bank's website breaks if you spoof your user agent.
2021-03-23T17:50:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> :|
2021-03-23T17:50:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> horrible design
2021-03-23T17:52:51 #kisslinux <phoebos[m]1> ah yeah i get that
2021-03-23T17:56:34 #kisslinux <sad_plan> whats the trick to get shinit to work? is it similar to sinit?
2021-03-23T17:59:57 #kisslinux <sad_plan> seems the init part I cant get to work. I was able to reboot with shinit commands. and it does boot, I just cant log in, cause it stops just before that..
2021-03-23T18:00:58 #kisslinux <riteo> Hi!
2021-03-23T18:01:09 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Hi
2021-03-23T18:09:34 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ehlo
2021-03-23T18:11:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> olhe
2021-03-23T18:12:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> did snopyta stop hosting an invidious instance?
2021-03-23T18:13:47 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> its working
2021-03-23T18:13:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> not for me
2021-03-23T18:13:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> weird
2021-03-23T18:29:02 #kisslinux <acheam> they've asked for people to not use it because of the resource usage
2021-03-23T18:29:14 #kisslinux <acheam> it kind of became the default instance after invidio.us
2021-03-23T18:29:26 #kisslinux <acheam> ominous_anonymou: lol
2021-03-23T18:29:39 #kisslinux <acheam> hi riteo
2021-03-23T18:30:33 #kisslinux <acheam> why can netsurf display svg favicons but not svg in html???
2021-03-23T18:31:22 #kisslinux <aarng> sad_plan: as the name suggests, it's a shell script. Read it and look how you can start gettys
2021-03-23T18:31:29 #kisslinux <aarng> search the logs, someone else had the same problem
2021-03-23T18:32:05 #kisslinux <aarng> sorry, but I don't see the point in using a shell script if you don't read and understand it
2021-03-23T18:33:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> because netsurf is weird acheam
2021-03-23T18:33:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> also keep in mind that gahnoo loonix users aren't first-class citizens when it comes to netsurf
2021-03-23T18:34:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> the devs might just not have implemented it for us yet
2021-03-23T18:50:41 #kisslinux <acheam> hmm yeah
2021-03-23T19:00:56 #kisslinux <riteo> holy shit suddenly I'm terrified that dylan might have killed himself
2021-03-23T19:01:09 #kisslinux <riteo> this thought flowed through my brain right now
2021-03-23T19:02:04 #kisslinux <riteo> it would be ironic if he went under a bus though
2021-03-23T19:02:25 #kisslinux <riteo> almost comedic, but still terrifying
2021-03-23T19:02:47 #kisslinux <riteo> have we got any proof that he isn't straight up dead?
2021-03-23T19:04:29 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> nope, just that for whatever reason he's not contributing any more
2021-03-23T19:04:52 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
2021-03-23T19:05:07 #kisslinux <riteo> yeah, I referred to that for being ironic
2021-03-23T19:05:28 #kisslinux <riteo> he always said how the distro had a bus factor of none
2021-03-23T19:05:44 #kisslinux <riteo> well, now i'm gonna get terrified about this for at least a few hours
2021-03-23T19:06:14 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> lol sorry its bothering you
2021-03-23T19:06:40 #kisslinux <riteo> well, It ain't your fault
2021-03-23T19:51:03 #kisslinux <riteo> the only coincidence I can find rn is that on the 27th of november (his last day of activity on github) all he did was fix a bug in the package manager, bump its version and update its package
2021-03-23T19:51:42 #kisslinux <riteo> it's not like he was in the best of conditions, if you recall his personal story from his blogs
2021-03-23T19:51:43 #kisslinux <kiedtl> He left a weird message on his website at some point
2021-03-23T19:51:47 #kisslinux <riteo> when
2021-03-23T19:51:48 #kisslinux <kiedtl> but most likely it doesn't mean anything
2021-03-23T19:51:51 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I forget
2021-03-23T19:51:59 #kisslinux <kiedtl> the website expired, lemme find the repo
2021-03-23T19:53:00 #kisslinux <kiedtl> https://github.com/dylanaraps/dylanaraps.github.io
2021-03-23T19:53:11 #kisslinux <riteo> he had a personal website?
2021-03-23T19:53:30 #kisslinux <riteo> >23 october
2021-03-23T19:53:33 #kisslinux <riteo> holy shit
2021-03-23T19:53:54 #kisslinux <kiedtl> riteo: he had one at blckk.me (github.com/dylanaraps/blag) and dylan.k1ss.org (the one I mentioned)
2021-03-23T19:54:26 #kisslinux <kiedtl> yeah, october 23 seems to be  the date it was added
2021-03-23T19:56:45 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> oh man i missed that blag site
2021-03-23T19:57:40 #kisslinux <riteo> on his subdomain he did on october 23rd a lot of weird changes which all pointed to being a sort of index, but then he made a very weird one
2021-03-23T19:58:05 #kisslinux <riteo> I'm soo fucking terrified rn, what if it's an ARG of sorts? What if it all pointed to a suicide letter? holy shit I need to calm down
2021-03-23T19:58:27 #kisslinux <riteo> sorry for the excessive swearing, it's all weird
2021-03-23T19:58:33 #kisslinux <necromansy> i highly doubt Dylan of all people would set up an ARG
2021-03-23T19:58:55 #kisslinux <riteo> why?
2021-03-23T19:59:56 #kisslinux <necromansy> the vehemently anti-social media bloke?
2021-03-23T20:00:14 #kisslinux <riteo> I don't see how that could change anything
2021-03-23T20:00:52 #kisslinux <riteo> after all, this is his own domain
2021-03-23T20:01:13 #kisslinux <riteo> and it's not like he was that mysterious about his identity
2021-03-23T20:05:34 #kisslinux <riteo> you might me right though
2021-03-23T20:05:40 #kisslinux <riteo> be*
2021-03-23T20:06:05 #kisslinux <riteo> after all, if it were a message it would have been a bit more noisy, wouldn't it?
2021-03-23T20:06:33 #kisslinux <riteo> I don't know how many people gone on his personal subdomain, but I doubt that they were a lot
2021-03-23T20:07:59 #kisslinux <riteo> thinking about it though he completely redid his website
2021-03-23T20:08:17 #kisslinux <riteo> well, I won't be polluding this chat anymore about this stuff, but I'll keep an eye on that message.
2021-03-23T20:08:40 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> all good, we were looking into it but no one really came up with any secret messages
2021-03-23T20:09:09 #kisslinux <riteo> when did you notice that the website changed?
2021-03-23T20:09:19 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> and we decided if he wasn't able to message us, then there wasn't anything we could do anyways.  if he *was* able to message us, then it was a choice he was making
2021-03-23T20:09:41 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i don't recall, there's a couple mentions in the log if you search it https://freenode.logbot.info/kisslinux/
2021-03-23T20:09:43 #kisslinux <acheam> kiedtl: what's blag?
2021-03-23T20:10:08 #kisslinux <acheam> the repo is... interesting
2021-03-23T20:10:59 #kisslinux <riteo> oh lol I just noticed the tags
2021-03-23T20:11:18 #kisslinux <riteo> blag blagg blaggg blagggg blaggggg blagggggg...
2021-03-23T20:13:05 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> dylan was trolling midfavila way back in 2019 lol: https://github.com/dylanaraps/blag/blob/fbfab54e142cc347b4fba14ac20cdafad1867be7/compiling-a-browser.md
2021-03-23T20:13:37 #kisslinux <riteo> what
2021-03-23T20:14:06 #kisslinux <kiedtl> hehe
2021-03-23T20:14:16 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I wonder what the Ode to Milk is though
2021-03-23T20:16:30 #kisslinux <kiedtl> >There are who ask not if thine milk low fat
2021-03-23T20:16:32 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I supplicate for thy control;
2021-03-23T20:16:34 #kisslinux <kiedtl> The spirit of self-sacrifice;
2021-03-23T20:16:36 #kisslinux <kiedtl> And in the light of truth thy milkman let me live!
2021-03-23T20:16:51 #kisslinux <kiedtl> This is what happens when you give a 21-yo a markov chain thing
2021-03-23T20:17:29 #kisslinux <kiedtl> acheam: "blag: To convince by rhetoric; to gain acceptance or approval through [persuasive] banter or conversation"
2021-03-23T20:22:19 #kisslinux <riteo> thinking about it, these random numbers could also just be a way of identifying each post
2021-03-23T20:22:41 #kisslinux <riteo> he clearly wanted to do a nice grid of hyperlinks, each referring to every post
2021-03-23T20:23:13 #kisslinux <riteo> though that wouldn't explain why there are so many repeating numbers
2021-03-23T20:26:06 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I'm of the opinion that the numbers were just some random junk
2021-03-23T20:26:44 #kisslinux <kiedtl> And that dylan is in this channel and laughing his ass off at our confusion =)))
2021-03-23T20:27:07 #kisslinux <riteo> lol that'd be very smart
2021-03-23T20:27:38 #kisslinux <riteo> still, I never heard of it before and my stupid ass has to find an excuse for not doing homework, so here am I
2021-03-23T20:28:02 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lol, deciphering stuff from /dev/urandom is the best way to procrastinate
2021-03-23T20:28:19 #kisslinux <riteo> can you really do that?
2021-03-23T20:28:32 #kisslinux <riteo> like, do random things with it and try to read inexistant messages?
2021-03-23T20:28:35 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I'm referring to the stuff on dylan's page
2021-03-23T20:28:40 #kisslinux <riteo> oh
2021-03-23T20:28:45 #kisslinux <riteo> lol
2021-03-23T20:28:54 #kisslinux <riteo> it sure is
2021-03-23T20:30:00 #kisslinux <kiedtl> whats that command to measure the speed of a pipe
2021-03-23T20:33:32 #kisslinux <kiedtl> nvm its pv
2021-03-23T20:33:49 #kisslinux <riteo> oh ook
2021-03-23T20:34:04 #kisslinux <riteo> what if that message is a file encoded in some weird numerical notation?
2021-03-23T20:34:18 #kisslinux <riteo> that looks a lot like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigesimal
2021-03-23T20:35:30 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> we figured if he hadn't gotten so annoyed at no one figured out his secret message to show back up by now, that he probably either had no secret message or was so disappointed in us he left for real
2021-03-23T20:36:35 #kisslinux <riteo> well, it must still mean something
2021-03-23T20:37:10 #kisslinux <kiedtl> If it means anything at all it's probably going to be something in Greek
2021-03-23T20:37:37 #kisslinux <riteo> I get it, you don't care, and that's fine. If no one cares, I'll work on it myself, I'm still curious.
2021-03-23T20:38:10 #kisslinux <riteo> it's more a curiosity thing than anything by now
2021-03-23T20:38:33 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> keep us in the loop if you find anything of interest
2021-03-23T20:38:46 #kisslinux <riteo> I'll sure do!
2021-03-23T20:39:23 #kisslinux <riteo> also, the tought of him being dead is hammering that "message" in my head no stop, so I kind of feel like I got no other choice
2021-03-23T20:39:49 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lol
2021-03-23T20:40:05 #kisslinux <kiedtl> It's not that I don't care, just that I don't think it's worth spending time on
2021-03-23T20:40:21 #kisslinux <riteo> oh yeah that's true
2021-03-23T20:41:00 #kisslinux <riteo> it's probably not that worth, after all kiss was developed entirely with the idea of being indipendent by him, and it worked quite nicely, ignoring the unavooidable ownership of the repo
2021-03-23T21:05:59 #kisslinux <mcpcpc> just going through some of the logs and i stumbled across one of dylan’s older domains, 112.red.   looks like this one renewed less than a month ago by him?
2021-03-23T21:07:03 #kisslinux <sad_plan> aarng: I know I probably should be more proficient in shellscripting before all fo this. but I get to learn from this. change some stuff - bork my system - fix my system - repeat. in any case, I will look into gettys as you mentioned, and I shall se where I end up from there on :p I also did search the log actually, but couldnt fint much at first anyway. Ill probably look more thoughroughly.
2021-03-23T21:08:55 #kisslinux <riteo> mcpcpc: are we sure that's him?
2021-03-23T21:09:17 #kisslinux <riteo> I tried using a whois service and it couldn't tell me nothing about it
2021-03-23T21:10:19 #kisslinux <mcpcpc> i think so. idk. there was some reference on 17feb2020 in the logs
2021-03-23T21:10:46 #kisslinux <mcpcpc> i am driving right now, so i am not entirely focused. lol
2021-03-23T21:11:13 #kisslinux <riteo> oh don't worry
2021-03-23T21:11:43 #kisslinux <mcpcpc> apparently linked on is s1x.co domain.
2021-03-23T21:27:54 #kisslinux <aarng> sad_plan: all good, was a bit harsh from my side, apologies
2021-03-23T21:28:25 #kisslinux <aarng> init runs /lib/init/rc.boot
2021-03-23T21:30:11 #kisslinux <aarng> and rc.boot runs everything in /etc/rc.d/
2021-03-23T21:30:25 #kisslinux <aarng> so that's where you want to start your gettys
2021-03-23T22:07:55 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Aarng: no problem. I ge that it can be frustrating when people ask questions which is out of the scope of knowledge.
2021-03-23T22:08:12 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Thanks, ill look into those!
2021-03-23T22:16:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> http://0x0.st/-qjs.jpg
2021-03-23T22:17:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> this image makes me feel personally attacked
2021-03-23T23:27:15 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Guys
2021-03-23T23:27:28 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> I made a reinstall of kiss
2021-03-23T23:27:36 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> The su had a problem
2021-03-23T23:27:48 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Password is incorrect everytime
2021-03-23T23:28:02 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> And i changed it most of one time
2021-03-23T23:30:38 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> Foget it
2021-03-23T23:30:42 #kisslinux <hellboy2d> I solved
2021-03-23T23:50:10 #kisslinux <acheam> nice