2020-02-26T00:00:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> Hello hello
2020-02-26T00:05:35 #kisslinux <kiedtl> hey
2020-02-26T00:06:13 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> ioraff:  Where can I read that comment
2020-02-26T00:08:18 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> I find it interesting that they have a release, if "we don't do releases"
2020-02-26T00:08:44 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> guys, i can't install anything from community
2020-02-26T00:08:53 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> followed the guide in kiss install
2020-02-26T00:09:19 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> error message?
2020-02-26T00:09:44 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> freddyruxpin:  post your kiss path. echo $KISS_PATH
2020-02-26T00:09:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> adamantium: https://github.com/onetrueawk/awk/issues/74
2020-02-26T00:10:34 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> okay then. That's pretty lame
2020-02-26T00:10:38 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> Thanks though.
2020-02-26T00:10:56 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> i have ":/var/db/kiss/community" appended to the usual list
2020-02-26T00:11:05 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> Haha I gave him thumbs down
2020-02-26T00:11:10 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> <3 github
2020-02-26T00:11:28 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> freddyruxpin:  It should be /community/community
2020-02-26T00:11:44 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> look all of the packages are two community directory levels deeop
2020-02-26T00:11:47 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> deep*
2020-02-26T00:12:40 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> yep, that was it, thanks
2020-02-26T00:12:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> I mean, his point feels on brand with the ethos of the whole project eh
2020-02-26T00:13:17 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> is @ioraff around?
2020-02-26T00:13:54 #kisslinux <ioraff> yeah
2020-02-26T00:14:55 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> ioraff:  we will have to rename the package to nawk-git and drop nawk
2020-02-26T00:14:59 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> ioraff:  I'll handle it
2020-02-26T00:15:20 #kisslinux <ioraff> thanks
2020-02-26T00:15:29 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> Thanks for letting me know
2020-02-26T00:15:38 #kisslinux <ioraff> you could change the source to some commit too.
2020-02-26T00:15:56 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> Why
2020-02-26T00:16:22 #kisslinux <ioraff> better VC in my opinion.
2020-02-26T00:16:31 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> ??
2020-02-26T00:17:23 #kisslinux <ioraff> well, nevermind
2020-02-26T00:17:27 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> They "don't do" releases. So why would I pin it to a hash
2020-02-26T00:17:50 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> If there's a good reason, I'll do it
2020-02-26T00:18:01 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I guess so you know the build is safe?
2020-02-26T00:18:47 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> how is it safe? I did not join a security audit team. I just maintain the package
2020-02-26T00:18:53 #kisslinux <Crestwave> and like... builds
2020-02-26T00:19:06 #kisslinux <Crestwave> A later commit could technically break it or something
2020-02-26T00:19:24 #kisslinux <ioraff> you could instead include the tests in the build file.
2020-02-26T00:19:55 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Or the repository could be taken over and filled with obviously malicious commits or something
2020-02-26T00:20:03 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> I'd tend to prefer using -git without a hash, and fall back to the hash if they have a broken master
2020-02-26T00:20:21 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> None of our other -git packages follow this approach
2020-02-26T00:20:23 #kisslinux <Crestwave> All in all, it's not that big of a problem, I just thought that may be what they were thinking
2020-02-26T00:20:36 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> I do not believe Gentoo 9999 does this, either. -git packages are the wild west
2020-02-26T00:20:44 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> They don't update automatically, either.
2020-02-26T00:21:28 #kisslinux <ioraff> adamantium[m]: maybe add ./REGRESS to the build script?
2020-02-26T00:21:28 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Well, I think haiku does, just to give a single example. But it depends on your standards, of course
2020-02-26T00:21:46 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> Haiku!?
2020-02-26T00:21:47 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> lol
2020-02-26T00:22:48 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> Haiku is incredibly insecure
2020-02-26T00:23:00 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> oh hey, ioraff, finally got FDE working just hit a bit of a snag, should be an easy fix
2020-02-26T00:23:25 #kisslinux <Crestwave> yes, but they have some policies for build scripts
2020-02-26T00:23:28 #kisslinux <Crestwave> no need to be rude
2020-02-26T00:23:42 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> the linux line in my grub default menuentry reads root=/dev/mapper/cryptroot and it won't boot unless i change it to root=/dev/dm-0
2020-02-26T00:23:56 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> i imagine this is something i need to change in /etc/default/grub ?
2020-02-26T00:24:28 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Not to mention the fact that a new commit breaking a build is much more likely in Haiku
2020-02-26T00:25:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> If our other -git packages start to prefer pinning to hashes for "security" reasons I will follow suit
2020-02-26T00:26:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> Until then, I will maintain the way the other -git packages are already setup
2020-02-26T00:26:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> If you are concerned about the security issues of our -git packages, open a bug in on github
2020-02-26T00:26:33 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Again, no need to be rude. I was just pointing out some possible reasons to consider that they might have been referring to
2020-02-26T00:26:50 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I probably would use master if I was making a package like that myself
2020-02-26T00:27:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'm not intending to be rude, don't misunderstand.
2020-02-26T00:27:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> Cut and dry, perhaps.
2020-02-26T00:27:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> I am passionate for kiss and want it to be the best it can be juts like you guys
2020-02-26T00:27:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> :)
2020-02-26T00:30:16 #kisslinux <Crestwave> and pointing to a hash is pointing to a known, working build, not just for "security" reasons as you say. but fairly minor overall, just something to consider
2020-02-26T00:30:53 #kisslinux <adamantium> One question comes up from that point, how often does the hash get updated, how does the package maintainer know which hash to use, how often should he check upstream for the latest
2020-02-26T00:31:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> "we don't do that" attitude of nawk really causes problem, breaks repology entirely
2020-02-26T00:36:10 #kisslinux <sirtomato> h
2020-02-26T00:36:11 #kisslinux <sirtomato> i
2020-02-26T00:38:09 #kisslinux <konimex> boy oh boy finally
2020-02-26T00:38:30 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Yep. If the latest hash works or a sort of milestone is reached it's usually used. I think most binary distros do this, actually?
2020-02-26T00:39:07 #kisslinux <konimex> Arch, probably, iirc they now have a hard-on for git commits instead of release tarballs like any sane distros
2020-02-26T00:39:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> emacs-git is updated almost hourly, youtube-dl-git is updated almost daily. I will be spending my life updating hashes at that rate.
2020-02-26T00:40:22 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I meant like latest hash when you check, not always update it to the latest hash
2020-02-26T00:40:27 #kisslinux <konimex> doesn't git package generate "dummy" checksums?
2020-02-26T00:40:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> the "security" value of using the hash versus just building master is debateable
2020-02-26T00:41:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> It prevent some class of  attack, perhaps, being a sort of zero day "our git repo was hacked" I suppose
2020-02-26T00:41:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> Source based rolling distros trust upstream sources, however, and that's just how it is I'd say.
2020-02-26T00:42:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> One nice thing about a KISS system is how easily one can audit the packages. You can git fetch each repo, diff and merge yourself to keep yourself audited, and -git packages one can check the latest commit upstream before installing. This type of thing is what you want to do if you are really serious about audits
2020-02-26T00:43:42 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Well, I just said that it's also (probably mostly) about a known, working build
2020-02-26T00:44:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> You end up with a frankensystem with old packages causing new packages to fail if it doesn't all roll.
2020-02-26T00:44:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> Are we a rolling or a pinned distro at that point
2020-02-26T00:45:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> Ironically it was the latest gawk that was causing libgpg-error (and thus gnupg2) to fail to build recently, we reverted gawk for that
2020-02-26T00:47:20 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Well, it depends on what the old packages are. I doubt an old version of nawk would cause any problems.
2020-02-26T00:48:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> In the case of 'nawk' since they "don't do releases" I think it's safe to assume they will be keeping a master branch that is always buildable
2020-02-26T00:48:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> *lol*
2020-02-26T00:49:33 #kisslinux <Crestwave> most likely, yes
2020-02-26T00:59:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> konimex: Re: dummy checksums, Yes.
2020-02-26T00:59:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> e.g. for nawk-git the checksum is git  git+https://github.com/onetrueawk/awk
2020-02-26T01:02:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> Regarding REGRESS tests, I think it should be the developer jobs to run those tests before pushing master
2020-02-26T01:03:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> Since they "dont do releases". What am I going to do if the awk fails a test anyways at that point.
2020-02-26T01:04:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> maybe program the build to auto open a github issue on onetrueawk! hah. Now we turn kiss build file into continuos integration
2020-02-26T01:05:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> From my perspective, -git packages will always be wild-west, however, I am not project leader. Maybe dylan will come on later and say what to do after reading the logs about nawk. For now, I will open a simple nawk-git and we can all go forward from there.
2020-02-26T01:06:37 #kisslinux <konimex> the "one true awk" is oawk after all
2020-02-26T01:13:06 #kisslinux <mforney> i just consider every commit that bumps the version to be a new release. i.e. https://github.com/onetrueawk/awk/commit/e92c8e4d0e36ec2c0395d945079016fdd13d3cc3 is version 20200219
2020-02-26T01:13:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> Check this out https://repology.org/project/nawk/versions lol. All these mainstream distros using the "release" of nawk who "doesn't do releases"
2020-02-26T01:13:47 #kisslinux <mforney> not really sure what difference having upstream add tags would make
2020-02-26T01:14:31 #kisslinux <mforney> what's the problem?
2020-02-26T01:14:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> mforney: It helps with repology, when everyone of different distros is able to use an actual version number with their respective package managers, we are able to see more easily when a package is out of date
2020-02-26T01:14:53 #kisslinux <mforney> isn't this just a problem of other distributions using an old version?
2020-02-26T01:15:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> The problem in the case of nawk, is that they have stated "We don't do releases.", but they do have one actual release on their github, so all the distros are using a two year old version of nawk
2020-02-26T01:15:19 #kisslinux <mforney> lots of packages use the date as the version
2020-02-26T01:15:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> Yeah
2020-02-26T01:19:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> ioraff I opened kiss bug https://github.com/kisslinux/community/issues/467
2020-02-26T01:26:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> Note: I'm not interested in maintaining this package using hashes and commit dates, (and thus having to regularly check upstream outside of repology to find the latest updates), if someone else is interested in doing so, they may have the adopt the package and I will be done with it.
2020-02-26T01:27:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> :P
2020-02-26T01:28:42 #kisslinux <mforney> i wouldn't consider the tag on github any more special than any other awk version. it's not even an annotated tag, and it's from when bwk himself was maintaining it, before it transitioned to arnold robbins (the current maintainer)
2020-02-26T01:32:08 #kisslinux <mforney> so the main problem is that other distributions aren't doing the work of checking for new versions for you?
2020-02-26T01:35:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> In a nutshell, yes.
2020-02-26T01:36:41 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> how do you guys autoconnect your wpa_supplicant?
2020-02-26T01:36:43 #kisslinux <konimex> so why bother maintaining nawk at all if you want others to check the "newest version" for you?
2020-02-26T01:36:49 #kisslinux <adamantium> It doesn't affect me, or only us though, if a glance at repology shows most of the distros are on differing versions, many quite outdated, the system breaks down without having official releases, and that to me is the real problem, and I don't blame myself for being lazy at that, I point the finger at one true awk.
2020-02-26T01:37:06 #kisslinux <konimex> freddyruxpin: I use a runit service for that
2020-02-26T01:37:22 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> https://github.com/kisslinux/wiki/wiki/Managing-services?
2020-02-26T01:37:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> konimex: I'm happy to drop it, as stated, if anybody wants to adopt the package, it's theirs. I created a -git package at least as a labor of love. Have at it
2020-02-26T01:37:45 #kisslinux <konimex> aye
2020-02-26T01:38:05 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> konimex: what do i softlink? sorry the wiki is just not clear to me
2020-02-26T01:38:45 #kisslinux <konimex> well, I created one myself since let's say wifi is a delicate thing
2020-02-26T01:38:57 #kisslinux <konimex> brb toilet
2020-02-26T01:40:00 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> @konimex: do you mind sharing yours with me so i could at least use it as a template?
2020-02-26T01:45:33 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> Hey freddyruxpin are you using dhcpcd?
2020-02-26T01:45:59 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> yea, i tried eiwd too, didn't work
2020-02-26T01:46:53 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> Ok cool, so all you need to do is just use a dhcpcd hook
2020-02-26T01:48:08 #kisslinux <Guest10> freddyruxpin: https://github.com/kisslinux/wiki/wiki/WiFi-connection-with-wpa_supplicant
2020-02-26T01:48:55 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> freddyruxpin:  ln -s /usr/share/dhcpcd/hooks/10-wpa_supplicant /usr/libexec/dhcpcd-hooks
2020-02-26T01:49:07 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> freddyruxpin: That will automatically start wpa_supplicant for you
2020-02-26T01:49:12 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> using dhcpcd
2020-02-26T01:49:48 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> You will still need to configure /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf however, with e.g. your wifi and password info
2020-02-26T01:50:01 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> cheers man!
2020-02-26T01:50:07 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> Yup
2020-02-26T01:50:30 #kisslinux <Guest10> interest re: you're eiwd experience freddy. I'm trying to get that going too
2020-02-26T01:50:56 #kisslinux <Guest10> No luck but haven't used iwd before so a bit of a struggle atm
2020-02-26T01:51:35 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> iwc sc
2020-02-26T01:51:38 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> no resuts
2020-02-26T01:52:43 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> made an auth iwc au SSID, and tried to connect iwc co SSID, no feedback iirc, then tried dhcpcd and nothing
2020-02-26T01:54:54 #kisslinux <Guest10> have you got the daemon running freddy? How have you started it?
2020-02-26T01:59:13 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> iwd you mean? i'm using wpa_supplicant since eiwd wasn't working for me
2020-02-26T01:59:57 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> now when i just dhcpcd <wlan0> wpa_supplicant associates using the conf
2020-02-26T02:00:26 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> i guess i can just write a .boot into /etc/rc.d/ to start dhcpcd
2020-02-26T02:00:29 #kisslinux <Guest10> yeah sorry i  was refering to your issues with eiwd not working
2020-02-26T02:02:06 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> freddyruxpin:  just ln -s /etc/sv/dhcpcd /var/service if i remember correctly
2020-02-26T02:02:17 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> thats how you enable a busybox runit or a runit service
2020-02-26T02:02:28 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> nice
2020-02-26T02:11:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> I can get eiwd to work but only whole actively running iwd
2020-02-26T02:11:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> Otherwise iwc shows I'm connected but I'm not *actually* connected
2020-02-26T02:14:12 #kisslinux <Guest10> ok. So maybe eiwd is still a work in progress  .
2020-02-26T02:15:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> Basically just need a way to daemonize iwd
2020-02-26T02:16:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> And also not make it wreck my battery
2020-02-26T03:57:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> Somehow when I swapped all of BusyBox back in via alternatives, a few didn't actually get swapped in? Including sh
2020-02-26T03:57:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> Sooo... We're having some problems
2020-02-26T03:59:11 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> o boy
2020-02-26T04:10:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> It's fine. Luckily the alternatives system is actually super straightforward
2020-02-26T04:10:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> And it's a simple mv
2020-02-26T04:10:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> Which *did* exist
2020-02-26T04:10:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> Also, pcre is needed for glib. Or startx doesn't work. FYI.
2020-02-26T04:11:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> What a fun ten minutes that was
2020-02-26T04:11:33 #kisslinux <E5ten> wait what how could startx not be working because of glib?
2020-02-26T04:13:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> Probably Compton related
2020-02-26T04:14:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> Possibly*
2020-02-26T04:29:29 #kisslinux <E5ten> konimex: to avoid GNU make for curl you can use cmake, but curl's cmake creates a libcurl without soversion (so like there's no libcurl.so.x.y.z and libcurl.so.x, just libcurl.so) but this patch makes that work http://ix.io/2cHj
2020-02-26T04:29:49 #kisslinux <ioraff> glib will automatically (and unfortunately) link against pcre if it's installed. not an absolute dependency.
2020-02-26T04:31:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> How cute!
2020-02-26T04:39:45 #kisslinux <E5ten> konimex: and for flex you can do "sed -i 's/ | $(FLEX)$//'" doc/Makefile.in to build with bmake
2020-02-26T04:40:04 #kisslinux <E5ten> whoops meant to put doc/Makefile.in in the double quotes so the whole command was in them
2020-02-26T04:41:19 #kisslinux <E5ten> you can use https://github.com/ibara/m4 instead of quasar m4, it builds without GNU make
2020-02-26T04:43:03 #kisslinux <E5ten> alsa-lib builds with bmake for me (I'm just going through your list of things requiring GNU to build and addressing everything that can be dealt with)
2020-02-26T04:46:04 #kisslinux <E5ten> "sed -Ei 's|subst ([^,]*),([^,]*),$(([^,)]*))|3:1%=2%|' rules/Makefile.in" for xkeyboard-config should work to make it build with bmake
2020-02-26T04:46:23 #kisslinux <E5ten> libx11 builds with bmake for me
2020-02-26T04:58:36 #kisslinux <E5ten> http://ix.io/2cHm this lets bmake build nasm
2020-02-26T05:45:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> libffi seems to work with bmake
2020-02-26T05:47:24 #kisslinux <E5ten> "sed -i '/--no-print-directory/d' Makefile.in" gets libevdev to work with bmake
2020-02-26T05:47:46 #kisslinux <E5ten> freetype has cmake
2020-02-26T05:55:05 #kisslinux <mforney> won't you need gnu make for building linux, regardless? (though i guess i could say the same thing about my efforts to build oasis with cproc)
2020-02-26T06:01:49 #kisslinux <E5ten> the goal at this point is just reducing usage as much as possible
2020-02-26T06:01:54 #kisslinux <E5ten> https://github.com/wyvertux/wyverkiss/issues/2
2020-02-26T06:10:44 #kisslinux <mforney> i see
2020-02-26T06:13:15 #kisslinux <E5ten> would be a fun unquestionably impossible task to try to POSIXify the kernel's make usage lmao
2020-02-26T07:27:20 #kisslinux <E5ten> xcb-util-wm also seems to work with bmake
2020-02-26T08:01:34 #kisslinux <E5ten> giflib bmake patch http://ix.io/2cHC
2020-02-26T08:04:57 #kisslinux <E5ten> if you don't wanna switch to that other m4 I linked here's a bmake patch for qm4 http://ix.io/2cHE
2020-02-26T08:17:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> wew
2020-02-26T08:17:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Logs took a while to rea
2020-02-26T08:17:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> d
2020-02-26T08:19:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> dilyn: Fixed glib.
2020-02-26T08:19:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> re nawk. I merged adamantium's -git PR for now. If anyone wants to maintain a regular package, feel free to do so.
2020-02-26T09:43:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The Wiki is now located directly on the website and all changes/additions must go through a PR process.
2020-02-26T09:43:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/website/tree/master/site/wiki
2020-02-26T09:44:22 #kisslinux <fehawen> Nice
2020-02-26T09:44:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I prefer proper English for pages and I wasn't seeing that with the old model.
2020-02-26T09:45:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My hope is that this will increase the quality of submissions overall.
2020-02-26T09:47:53 #kisslinux <fehawen> It's clean and straightforward. I like it
2020-02-26T09:50:00 #kisslinux <fehawen> Hah, that last testimonial. "Neckbeards".
2020-02-26T11:10:26 #kisslinux <konimex> nice, will take a look at packaging and put all of them to testing but the building will take place tomorrow
2020-02-26T11:10:44 #kisslinux <konimex> also, yes I'm switching to openbsd m4
2020-02-26T11:12:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: Picom changes merged just now
2020-02-26T11:12:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://patch-diff.githubusercontent.com/raw/yshui/picom/pull/322.patch
2020-02-26T11:13:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Might want to swap to this patch
2020-02-26T11:13:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can make it smaller by removing the README portion
2020-02-26T11:14:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/hpsb
2020-02-26T11:14:18 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> nice congrats
2020-02-26T11:14:44 #kisslinux <konimex> bump rel or no?
2020-02-26T11:14:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-02-26T11:15:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We are now xdg free once again
2020-02-26T11:36:04 #kisslinux <konimex> E5ten: although, some packages such as curl are just magic when it comes to bmake, sometimes it works (so I removed gmake the other day in https://github.com/wyvertux/wyvertux/commit/bda9e47a4db6a56883852096d7b9fa4d6ac11877), but then it fails again
2020-02-26T11:36:11 #kisslinux <konimex> I'll bring the complete log though if possible
2020-02-26T12:29:51 #kisslinux <illiliti> help. how to optimize this for speed? - https://termbin.com/pxti . takes too long time...
2020-02-26T12:30:41 #kisslinux <illiliti> 25425 modules.alias
2020-02-26T13:56:14 #kisslinux <icyphox> Evening.
2020-02-26T13:58:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ell
2020-02-26T13:58:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o
2020-02-26T13:58:59 #kisslinux <icyphox> Hi dylanaraps, what's good?
2020-02-26T14:00:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> An old MG arrived where I live
2020-02-26T14:00:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's the landlord's
2020-02-26T14:00:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's beautiful
2020-02-26T14:01:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> MG?
2020-02-26T14:01:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/96/28/84/96288416dbe930e38a405d69d93d0254.jpg
2020-02-26T14:01:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This but in worse condition (cosmetically)
2020-02-26T14:01:55 #kisslinux <icyphox> Oh nice.
2020-02-26T14:02:01 #kisslinux <icyphox> I don't know much about cars.
2020-02-26T14:02:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPPDXKjVRf
2020-02-26T14:02:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm watching this right now to learn the history
2020-02-26T14:03:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_MGB
2020-02-26T14:03:39 #kisslinux <dzove855_> huu, that's a beautiful car
2020-02-26T14:04:03 #kisslinux <dzove855_> not far away from where i live, there's a car garage, and there're only old mustangs
2020-02-26T14:04:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-02-26T14:04:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I want a '69 mustang
2020-02-26T14:04:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> In black
2020-02-26T14:05:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or a real horse
2020-02-26T14:05:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll be happy with either
2020-02-26T14:05:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ;)
2020-02-26T14:05:21 #kisslinux <dzove855_> yeaaah, they're really nice. Actually i once rented an old mustang 65 cabrio, it was such a beauty
2020-02-26T14:05:35 #kisslinux <icyphox> These cars... Indian roads...
2020-02-26T14:05:41 #kisslinux <icyphox> D:
2020-02-26T14:05:47 #kisslinux <kiedtl> o/
2020-02-26T14:05:50 #kisslinux <E5ten> konimex: well if bmake with curl is inconsistent like I said before you can just use cmake with my patch ;)
2020-02-26T14:06:01 #kisslinux <icyphox> Hi kiedtl.
2020-02-26T14:06:27 #kisslinux <konimex> got it, but wouldn't it make a circular dep-makedep between curl and cmake?
2020-02-26T14:06:48 #kisslinux <E5ten> Cmake deps curl?
2020-02-26T14:07:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-02-26T14:07:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Cmake has download functionality built it
2020-02-26T14:07:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> in*
2020-02-26T14:07:25 #kisslinux <icyphox> That's unnecessary.
2020-02-26T14:07:28 #kisslinux <E5ten> Hmm I guess so then, you could use the bundled libcurl from cmake?
2020-02-26T14:07:43 #kisslinux <konimex> I'll see what I can do
2020-02-26T14:08:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I want one of these: https://d2pa5gi5n2e1an.cloudfront.net/global/images/product/motorcycle/Yamaha_Chappy/Yamaha_Chappy_L_1.jpg
2020-02-26T14:08:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's 10 or so driving around where I live
2020-02-26T14:08:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My landlord has 4 or 5 of them
2020-02-26T14:08:42 #kisslinux <E5ten> -DCMAKE_USE_SYSTEM_CURL=OFF
2020-02-26T14:08:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_fyKe8GL0o
2020-02-26T14:09:02 #kisslinux <icyphox> dylanaraps: Oh it's like the TVS 50!
2020-02-26T14:09:05 #kisslinux <icyphox> https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/motorbikes/592326d1313241669-my-1983-tvs-50-still-mint-condition-edit-30th-year-coming-up-dsc07804.jpg
2020-02-26T14:09:06 #kisslinux <E5ten> Then cmake will build a vendored libcurl and circular DEP is avoided :)
2020-02-26T14:10:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> icyphox: There's a few like that around too
2020-02-26T14:10:37 #kisslinux <icyphox> Cute.
2020-02-26T14:44:57 #kisslinux <E5ten> konimex: http://ix.io/2cIj libaio bmake patch
2020-02-26T14:53:54 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> is there anyway the uri for the latest release download could be maintained on the github side instead of having to change the install guide each time?
2020-02-26T14:54:23 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> otherwise, outside references may be outdated
2020-02-26T15:02:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will fix it.
2020-02-26T15:26:16 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> dylanaraps, sent you some suggested changes to the FDE wiki
2020-02-26T15:27:07 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> it's missing 1 step since i'm still having the issue of having to manually change the linux grub entry on each boot
2020-02-26T15:29:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Freddy, where did you send the changes?
2020-02-26T15:29:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I can't see them anywhere.
2020-02-26T15:30:47 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> dylan⊙ko
2020-02-26T15:31:00 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> might want to check spam its from a cock.li address lol
2020-02-26T15:31:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-02-26T15:31:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Alright
2020-02-26T15:32:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Still nothing
2020-02-26T15:32:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Try dylan.araps⊙gc
2020-02-26T15:33:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Protonmail may just block cockli domains entirely... Wouldn't surprise me. Protonmail can be a little shady
2020-02-26T15:34:23 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> heh, alright
2020-02-26T15:35:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Got it
2020-02-26T15:35:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> In Gmail spam
2020-02-26T15:35:43 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ah, cocknificent
2020-02-26T15:36:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's no attachment though
2020-02-26T15:36:46 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> goddamit.
2020-02-26T15:38:30 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ok sent again with catbox link
2020-02-26T15:38:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-02-26T15:38:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Got it
2020-02-26T15:39:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will apply the patch when I get back in an hour or so
2020-02-26T15:39:36 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> no worries, i don't mind any edits if you feel anything is off
2020-02-26T16:28:19 #kisslinux <illiliti> why these scripts needed? - https://github.com/kisslinux/init/tree/master/bin
2020-02-26T16:32:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> illiliti: To increase portability between inits
2020-02-26T16:33:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> kall removes the dependency on killall5
2020-02-26T16:33:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> kpow removes the dependency on a specific implementation of halt
2020-02-26T16:34:05 #kisslinux <illiliti> killall5 isn't portable?
2020-02-26T16:34:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What provides it other than busybox and sbase/ubase?
2020-02-26T16:34:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sysvinit and ????
2020-02-26T16:35:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's a sysvinit utility
2020-02-26T16:37:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So, having our own implementation of the basic usage in rc.shutdown removes the need for a user to have busybox, ubase or sysvinit-utils installed to powerdown the machine.
2020-02-26T16:38:22 #kisslinux <k1ss> dylanaraps: If im going to uninstall a package, how do I uninstall all the deps related to said package?
2020-02-26T16:38:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'kiss-orphans' will list orphans which you can then 'kiss r'
2020-02-26T16:38:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Don't blindly use output from the list though.
2020-02-26T16:41:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I've pushed a new kiss release which makes 'kiss-orphans' better.
2020-02-26T16:51:06 #kisslinux <illiliti> dylanaraps: thanks for explanation. both scripts could be implemented in shell, right?
2020-02-26T16:55:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> illiliti: No
2020-02-26T16:55:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We had killall5 in shell but it'd end up killing _itself_
2020-02-26T16:55:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> kpow tells the kernel to poweroff/reboot
2020-02-26T16:57:34 #kisslinux <illiliti> why we can't simply use /proc/sysrq-trigger to do this task?
2020-02-26T16:57:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> freddyruxpin: Can you send me the changes in the form of a patch?
2020-02-26T16:57:41 #kisslinux <E5ten> for killall5 couldn't you just get it to check $$ against the pid it was about to kill?
2020-02-26T16:57:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> illiliti: Not all kernels have sysrq enable. Mine doesn't.
2020-02-26T16:57:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> E5ten: Nope
2020-02-26T16:58:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It still kills the script itself.
2020-02-26T16:58:30 #kisslinux <E5ten> huh
2020-02-26T16:59:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> See: https://github.com/kisslinux/init/blob/master/bin/kall.c#L24-L26
2020-02-26T17:00:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://git.busybox.net/busybox/tree/procps/kill.c#n225
2020-02-26T17:01:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/limingth/sysvinit/blob/master/sysvinit-2.88dsf/src/killall5.c#L1089
2020-02-26T17:01:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Same kinda deal in all implementations
2020-02-26T17:01:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ubase's is the same iirc
2020-02-26T17:01:33 #kisslinux <E5ten> ah and you can't get sid in shell?
2020-02-26T17:01:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't think so
2020-02-26T17:01:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I tried to get our shell implementation to work but couldn't
2020-02-26T17:02:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It kept killing itself
2020-02-26T17:02:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also, iirc kill(-1, SIGSTOP);
2020-02-26T17:02:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That would also stop the parent shell
2020-02-26T17:02:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or the parent of the parent if it existed
2020-02-26T17:02:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It was messy basically
2020-02-26T17:02:50 #kisslinux <E5ten> I see
2020-02-26T17:37:44 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> dylanaraps, i thought i did? Sorry, bit of a n00b still. I just did "diff originalFile newFile > file.patch"
2020-02-26T17:39:51 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> btw, to enable cron is "ln -s /etc/sv/crond /var/service"?
2020-02-26T17:40:35 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> i tried that and it gave me "cant change directory to /var/spool/cron/crontabs : no such file or directory"
2020-02-26T17:57:15 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ok, resolved it. had to create directory mkdir -p /var/spool/cron/crontabs
2020-02-26T18:14:24 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Hi guys,so I managed to get everything installed (till reboot)...but now when I reboot I get this
2020-02-26T18:14:28 #kisslinux <greyjoy> https://imgur.com/a/fCaR08l
2020-02-26T18:14:46 #kisslinux <greyjoy> So when I login in as root I can’t do anything
2020-02-26T18:14:57 #kisslinux <greyjoy> https://imgur.com/a/lZe4dh7
2020-02-26T18:16:27 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> what is /dev/sh?
2020-02-26T18:16:29 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Plus I don’t have internet (ethernet),I did write down my ip address can we fix the internet issue manually adding it? I still need to install wm,hostname etc... but without internet I can’t do much
2020-02-26T18:16:54 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> well nothing's gonna work if you can't issue commands
2020-02-26T18:17:00 #kisslinux <greyjoy> freddyruxpin idk honestly
2020-02-26T18:17:05 #kisslinux <hechos> how time take to get system running with kiss?
2020-02-26T18:17:22 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> greyjoy, did you try the rescue entry in grub?
2020-02-26T18:17:46 #kisslinux <greyjoy> No,let me reboot and go into rescue mod
2020-02-26T18:18:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What's your partition layout like?
2020-02-26T18:18:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Do any commands work?
2020-02-26T18:18:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Need more info
2020-02-26T18:19:06 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ioraff: sorry to keep bugging you when you log on, but i'm still having issue with FDE, I can only boot if i change linux line in grub menuentry from /dev/mapper/cryptroot to /dev/dm-0
2020-02-26T18:19:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Send your kernel .config as well
2020-02-26T18:19:49 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Layout is mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt and mount /dev/nvme0n1p2 /mnt/boot/EFI
2020-02-26T18:20:10 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> you enable nvme drivers in kernel?
2020-02-26T18:20:17 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Yup
2020-02-26T18:20:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> greyjoy: Send your .config
2020-02-26T18:20:39 #kisslinux <greyjoy> How do i go back into there?
2020-02-26T18:21:00 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> dylanaraps, is that FDE wiki patch any good or do i need to redo something?
2020-02-26T18:21:18 #kisslinux <greyjoy> This is in rescue mod
2020-02-26T18:21:21 #kisslinux <greyjoy> https://imgur.com/a/YnUfGbV
2020-02-26T18:22:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> freddy, I'll have a go with your diff output again in a bit. Will let you know
2020-02-26T18:22:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> greyjoy: chroot in exactly as you did during the install
2020-02-26T18:22:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> live-cd, mount disks, grab kiss-chroot, chroot in.
2020-02-26T18:23:16 #kisslinux <greyjoy> I can’t do anything...all I get is “sh: can’t fork : Resource temporarily unavailable
2020-02-26T18:23:26 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Ok,I’ll put live cd back in
2020-02-26T18:25:30 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> when you chroot in check what the ulimit is with the command 'ulimit'
2020-02-26T18:26:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also run, udevadm --version and udevd --version
2020-02-26T18:28:47 #kisslinux <greyjoy> ulimit = output “unlimited”
2020-02-26T18:29:18 #kisslinux <ioraff> freddyruxpin: that's what it should be.
2020-02-26T18:29:41 #kisslinux <greyjoy> udevadm —version = output “sh: cant fork: resource temporarily unavailable
2020-02-26T18:29:51 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> my system kernel panics unless i change to dm-0
2020-02-26T18:29:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Even in the chroot?
2020-02-26T18:30:02 #kisslinux <greyjoy> udevd —version cant fork
2020-02-26T18:30:18 #kisslinux <greyjoy> yup in chroot
2020-02-26T18:30:25 #kisslinux <ioraff> freddyruxpin: the node at /dev/mapper is created by the device manager. the kernel will only recognize e.g. /dev/dm-0
2020-02-26T18:30:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Does anything work in the chroot?
2020-02-26T18:30:47 #kisslinux <greyjoy> nothing
2020-02-26T18:30:56 #kisslinux <greyjoy> sh:cant fork etc....
2020-02-26T18:31:02 #kisslinux <greyjoy> what is that sh?
2020-02-26T18:31:06 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ioraff, so how would i change that linux line from /dev/mapper/cryptroot to /dev/dm-0 so kernel recognizes?
2020-02-26T18:32:01 #kisslinux <greyjoy> dylanaraps this is the output always
2020-02-26T18:32:04 #kisslinux <greyjoy> https://imgur.com/a/iDIp5BU
2020-02-26T18:32:37 #kisslinux <ioraff> freddyruxpin: you'll probably have to change grub.cfg manually. not entirely sure though as I'm running grub via libreboot so my grub.cfg is baked in as a sort of BIOS boot list.
2020-02-26T18:32:47 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> greyjoy, 'echo $0'
2020-02-26T18:33:59 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ioraff, i followed guide to the T, and i'm trying to help with making it a bit more clear, what step do you think needs to be changed so that grub.cfg gets the linux line right?
2020-02-26T18:34:04 #kisslinux <greyjoy> echo $0 output is only ‘sh’
2020-02-26T18:34:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'echo /dev/*' ?
2020-02-26T18:34:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> shell builtins seem to work
2020-02-26T18:35:18 #kisslinux <greyjoy> https://imgur.com/a/L2gNB2r
2020-02-26T18:35:24 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ioraff, after i change grub.cfg i need to grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg, right?
2020-02-26T18:35:37 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Output for /dev/*
2020-02-26T18:35:42 #kisslinux <ioraff> freddyruxpin: in /etc/default/grub, what do you have for 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX' and 'GRUB_CMDLINUX_LINUX_DEFAULT'?
2020-02-26T18:36:11 #kisslinux <ioraff> freddyruxpin: generally, grub settings are defined in /etc/default/grub. grub-mkconfig uses these to make grub.cfg
2020-02-26T18:36:48 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ioraff, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 quiet", no CMDLINE_LINUX
2020-02-26T18:36:59 #kisslinux <greyjoy> dylanaraps i can go into cd /var/db/kiss/repo and then cd linux-5.5.6
2020-02-26T18:37:13 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Do you want the .config for kernel?
2020-02-26T18:37:32 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Just tell me the input so i can send it if you ned it
2020-02-26T18:37:33 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ioraff, but obviously some more is generated than just that for the linux line, i could reboot and get for ya
2020-02-26T18:38:00 #kisslinux <ioraff> freddyruxpin: yeah, it's in grub.cfg. find the kernel command line and tell me what's there.
2020-02-26T18:38:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> greyjoy: Will be hard for you to send it if nothing works
2020-02-26T18:38:16 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> i'm running 5.5.5 fine, maybe the problem is 5.5.6?
2020-02-26T18:39:16 #kisslinux <hechos> freddyruxpin: on voidlinux what im use have probelms with 5.5 series
2020-02-26T18:39:20 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Yea,cant enter make menuconfig
2020-02-26T18:39:55 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ioraff,  regular boot and advanced i have "linux /boot/vmlinuz-5.5.5 root=/dev/mapper/cryptro ro loglevel=3 quiet"
2020-02-26T18:40:10 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> */dev/mapper/cryptroot
2020-02-26T18:40:48 #kisslinux <hechos> how can play with kiss linux on chroot?
2020-02-26T18:41:04 #kisslinux <hechos> in the same way as other os?
2020-02-26T18:41:08 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Idk what to do,it’s risky doing another 3h install and get back here again with the same problem
2020-02-26T18:41:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> hechos: Download the tarball, extract it and chroot in
2020-02-26T18:41:26 #kisslinux <hechos> okey
2020-02-26T18:41:32 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> greyjoy, cat won't work, eh?
2020-02-26T18:41:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> greyjoy: Did it work prior to your first reboot?
2020-02-26T18:41:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Every result on google is related to no available ram/resources
2020-02-26T18:42:02 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Yes,everything before the rbbot went super smooth
2020-02-26T18:42:11 #kisslinux <ioraff> freddyruxpin: okay, try adding root=/dev/dm-0 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. grub-mkconfig and then show me the same line.
2020-02-26T18:42:15 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Problem came after the first reboot
2020-02-26T18:42:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Does 'dmesg' work?
2020-02-26T18:42:57 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Yes
2020-02-26T18:43:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What about 'nc'?
2020-02-26T18:43:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nvm
2020-02-26T18:43:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You have no internet I assume
2020-02-26T18:43:29 #kisslinux <greyjoy> No internet
2020-02-26T18:43:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'dmesg | grep -i error'
2020-02-26T18:43:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Then take a photo
2020-02-26T18:43:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also try: 'whoami' and 'top'
2020-02-26T18:43:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Anything interesting there?
2020-02-26T18:44:18 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ioraff, now there's two roots, root=/dev/mapper/cryptroot and root=/dev/dm-0
2020-02-26T18:44:39 #kisslinux <greyjoy> dylanaraps https://imgur.com/a/qpZwYg4
2020-02-26T18:44:47 #kisslinux <ioraff> freddyruxpin: right. the second one should override the first, but let me check on that.
2020-02-26T18:45:07 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Whoami = output is ‘root’
2020-02-26T18:46:12 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Top = output is https://imgur.com/a/95D6bbA
2020-02-26T18:46:59 #kisslinux <ioraff> freddyruxpin: can't find anything concrete. try it out though.
2020-02-26T18:47:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> greyjoy: That's a lot of shells open
2020-02-26T18:48:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Try 'kill -SIGTERM -1'
2020-02-26T18:48:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Might be 'kill -TERM -1'
2020-02-26T18:48:37 #kisslinux <hechos> url for release not found
2020-02-26T18:48:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or 'kill -TERM -- -1'
2020-02-26T18:48:43 #kisslinux <greyjoy> But idk why? Followed the tut to the A,everything went smooth. Read about kernel configuration,prepared nicely
2020-02-26T18:48:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> greyjoy: Exactly. I'd like to find out too
2020-02-26T18:49:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Never seen this happen before
2020-02-26T18:49:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> hechos: Which url?
2020-02-26T18:49:29 #kisslinux <hechos>  $url=github.com/kisslinux/repo/releases/download/1.9.0 | wget "$url/kiss-chroot.tar.xz"
2020-02-26T18:50:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/releases/download/1.9.0/kiss-chroot.tar.xz
2020-02-26T18:50:19 #kisslinux <greyjoy> kill -TERM -- -1 Output was it removed me from chroot
2020-02-26T18:50:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> greyjoy: Try chroot in again
2020-02-26T18:50:30 #kisslinux <greyjoy> I’m back at live usb login
2020-02-26T18:50:43 #kisslinux <hechos> dylanaraps: change syntax and work., sorry.
2020-02-26T18:50:56 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Entered chroot
2020-02-26T18:51:11 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Wait a sec dylan
2020-02-26T18:51:18 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Photoing
2020-02-26T18:51:49 #kisslinux <greyjoy> https://imgur.com/a/b77Oak3
2020-02-26T18:53:59 #kisslinux <greyjoy> dylanaraps when I did vi /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh
2020-02-26T18:54:12 #kisslinux <greyjoy> in the second line i had sh -l
2020-02-26T18:54:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh god
2020-02-26T18:54:37 #kisslinux <greyjoy> i think that’s the issue,I’m not sure how that came in there but i couldnt remove it
2020-02-26T18:54:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2020-02-26T18:54:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It spawns sh which spawns sh which spawns sh
2020-02-26T18:55:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> and so on
2020-02-26T18:55:06 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Oh shit
2020-02-26T18:55:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Remove it!
2020-02-26T18:55:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Then you have no more resources available
2020-02-26T18:55:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :P
2020-02-26T18:55:28 #kisslinux <greyjoy> How? Cant enter with vi /etc/profile.d
2020-02-26T18:55:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Do it from the live cd
2020-02-26T18:55:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Without chroot
2020-02-26T18:55:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just mount /mnt
2020-02-26T18:55:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> then vi /mnt/etc/bla/bla
2020-02-26T18:55:50 #kisslinux <icyphox> Oh boy.
2020-02-26T18:55:53 #kisslinux <icyphox> LOL
2020-02-26T18:55:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Good issue
2020-02-26T18:56:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I liked this one
2020-02-26T18:56:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> Lmao
2020-02-26T18:56:50 #kisslinux <aarng> :DD
2020-02-26T18:56:53 #kisslinux <greyjoy> I glad i made a new problem for you,atleast you know now
2020-02-26T18:57:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> How'd it get there?
2020-02-26T18:57:07 #kisslinux <icyphox> How'd the 'sh -l' get there?
2020-02-26T18:57:12 #kisslinux <aarng> fork bombed yourself
2020-02-26T18:57:22 #kisslinux <greyjoy> No idea honestly
2020-02-26T18:57:41 #kisslinux <greyjoy> It was there,i tried to remove it but couldnt so i said fuck it
2020-02-26T18:57:49 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> infinite recursion, yay
2020-02-26T18:57:51 #kisslinux <greyjoy> But it fucked me as you see lol
2020-02-26T18:57:58 #kisslinux <icyphox> RIP
2020-02-26T18:59:09 #kisslinux <greyjoy> I’m in the ‘vi /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh
2020-02-26T18:59:13 #kisslinux <greyjoy> top is empty
2020-02-26T18:59:24 #kisslinux <greyjoy> do i write something there?
2020-02-26T18:59:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just remove sh -l
2020-02-26T18:59:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> Only if you wanna install packages
2020-02-26T19:00:00 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Nothing is there,empty as my soul right now
2020-02-26T19:00:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> vi /mnt/etc/...
2020-02-26T19:02:11 #kisslinux <greyjoy> How do i save this shit? Cant do much except write and i wrote on the very top ‘vi /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh
2020-02-26T19:02:24 #kisslinux <greyjoy> is that ok? Im scared of this line tbh
2020-02-26T19:04:27 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Suddenly i went to save ?
2020-02-26T19:04:43 #kisslinux <greyjoy> now what,still no internet.do i reboot and see
2020-02-26T19:06:48 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ioraff, yea it seems the second root= overrides the first, but it seems a sloppy solution...
2020-02-26T19:08:36 #kisslinux <kiedtl> greyjoy, use the hjkl keys to move around, go to the line you want to remove
2020-02-26T19:08:38 #kisslinux <greyjoy> dylanaraps ok i enetered in the live cd at the top ‘vi etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh and saved...then i rebooted in kiss but now i again have the same sh line 2 issue
2020-02-26T19:08:52 #kisslinux <kiedtl> then press dd
2020-02-26T19:09:05 #kisslinux <kiedtl> you *do* know how to use the vi editor, no?
2020-02-26T19:09:30 #kisslinux <greyjoy> It just writes dd on the second line
2020-02-26T19:09:40 #kisslinux <greyjoy> that is why I’m asking
2020-02-26T19:09:41 #kisslinux <kiedtl> press esc.
2020-02-26T19:09:46 #kisslinux <greyjoy> nothing
2020-02-26T19:09:54 #kisslinux <kiedtl> then press `:wq`.
2020-02-26T19:10:01 #kisslinux <kiedtl> to save and exit.
2020-02-26T19:10:03 #kisslinux <greyjoy> thats why i had issues removing the sh -l in the first place
2020-02-26T19:10:13 #kisslinux <kiedtl> yeah, the vi editor is tricky.
2020-02-26T19:10:23 #kisslinux <greyjoy> :wq does nothing just writes it down on the second line
2020-02-26T19:10:24 #kisslinux <kiedtl> dylanaraps, what do you think of making nano the default editor?
2020-02-26T19:10:31 #kisslinux <ioraff> freddyruxpin: I'm not aware of any way to specify a default root in GRUB, so this is probably the only initramfs-less solution.
2020-02-26T19:10:45 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> :q! and open it with nano
2020-02-26T19:10:54 #kisslinux <kiedtl> you might have to build nano first
2020-02-26T19:11:10 #kisslinux <greyjoy> Kiss b nano?
2020-02-26T19:11:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You need the Community repository enabled
2020-02-26T19:11:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> vi will stay the default
2020-02-26T19:11:58 #kisslinux <kiedtl> greyjoy, enable the community repo using the instructions in the tutorial, then `kiss b nano && kiss i nano`.
2020-02-26T19:12:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> kiedtl: He's meant to edit /mnt/etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh from the live-cd
2020-02-26T19:12:30 #kisslinux <kiedtl> yeah, ik
2020-02-26T19:12:39 #kisslinux <kiedtl> oh
2020-02-26T19:12:43 #kisslinux <perish> hola
2020-02-26T19:12:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just to remove 'sh -l' from it
2020-02-26T19:12:49 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> have him use sed lol
2020-02-26T19:12:51 #kisslinux <kiedtl> outside of the chroot?
2020-02-26T19:12:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-02-26T19:12:55 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ah
2020-02-26T19:13:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The file contains 'sh -l' so his system fork bombs itself on login
2020-02-26T19:13:17 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lol, use whatever editor you want then
2020-02-26T19:13:24 #kisslinux <kiedtl> depends on what your live-cd is
2020-02-26T19:13:47 #kisslinux <perish> anyone know how to actually use the `.` command in POSIX shell
2020-02-26T19:13:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> . file
2020-02-26T19:14:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Exact same as 'source'
2020-02-26T19:14:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Vars must be set in the environment and you can't pass arguments.
2020-02-26T19:14:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> VAR=1 . file
2020-02-26T19:14:46 #kisslinux <perish> my implementation of posix shell doesn't like . file
2020-02-26T19:14:47 #kisslinux <perish> sad moment
2020-02-26T19:14:53 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ash?
2020-02-26T19:14:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Which one?
2020-02-26T19:15:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It must be the path to the file
2020-02-26T19:15:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> . ./file or . /path/to/file
2020-02-26T19:15:32 #kisslinux <perish> oh, it has to be a path
2020-02-26T19:15:33 #kisslinux <perish> it was dash
2020-02-26T19:17:01 #kisslinux <greyjoy> dylanaraps so i did /mnt/etc... and then ‘vi /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh
2020-02-26T19:17:06 #kisslinux <greyjoy> result is this https://imgur.com/a/pOaNgGH
2020-02-26T19:17:13 #kisslinux <perish> now it's time to figure out a way to get the contents of bash arrays without calling a bash interpreter
2020-02-26T19:17:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> vi /mnt/etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh
2020-02-26T19:17:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> From outside of any chroot
2020-02-26T19:17:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> and with your disks mounted to /mnt
2020-02-26T19:18:54 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> new patch for FDE wiki to include the root= fix: https://files.catbox.moe/szvle4.patch
2020-02-26T19:18:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-02-26T19:19:56 #kisslinux <perish> Wait, does `.` run the file?
2020-02-26T19:20:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It evals the file
2020-02-26T19:20:09 #kisslinux <perish> ah
2020-02-26T19:20:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Into the current shell
2020-02-26T19:20:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Think of it like an include
2020-02-26T19:20:46 #kisslinux <perish> yea gotcha
2020-02-26T19:20:56 #kisslinux <perish> it's just complaining about syntax errors
2020-02-26T19:21:08 #kisslinux <perish> I'm dealing with PKGBUILDs and i really dont want to invoke bash
2020-02-26T19:30:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-02-26T19:30:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And you're running '. file' from posix shell?
2020-02-26T19:30:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That won't work as PKGBUILDs are bash
2020-02-26T19:35:51 #kisslinux <grejoy> Now when i enter kis linux without live cd i get this
2020-02-26T19:35:54 #kisslinux <grejoy> https://imgur.com/a/YPkK1s3
2020-02-26T19:36:16 #kisslinux <grejoy> Cant go out just write and :wq save but nohing else happens
2020-02-26T19:36:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can you boot now?
2020-02-26T19:37:11 #kisslinux <grejoy> It boots into the kiss linux boot page i can enter root or user butthen it brings me here
2020-02-26T19:37:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What are the contents of the file?...
2020-02-26T19:38:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Don't tell me you added 'vi something' to it
2020-02-26T19:38:05 #kisslinux <grejoy> https://imgur.com/a/YPkK1s3
2020-02-26T19:38:19 #kisslinux <grejoy> Nope it’s blank
2020-02-26T19:38:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's the contents of /mnt/bla/bla from inside KISS no?
2020-02-26T19:38:30 #kisslinux <grejoy> Yes
2020-02-26T19:38:42 #kisslinux <grejoy> Login as root and this pops up
2020-02-26T19:38:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Show me /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh
2020-02-26T19:38:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> From KISS
2020-02-26T19:39:04 #kisslinux <grejoy> Cant it brings me here right after root
2020-02-26T19:39:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ':q!'
2020-02-26T19:41:05 #kisslinux <grejoy> Input /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh brings this
2020-02-26T19:41:11 #kisslinux <grejoy> on top nothing
2020-02-26T19:41:16 #kisslinux <grejoy> Bottom is
2020-02-26T19:42:16 #kisslinux <grejoy> Mnt /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh 1/1 100%
2020-02-26T19:43:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'cat /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh'
2020-02-26T19:43:51 #kisslinux <grejoy> Do i need to write something on the top?
2020-02-26T19:44:00 #kisslinux <grejoy> ok a sec
2020-02-26T19:44:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> From inside KISS
2020-02-26T19:44:46 #kisslinux <grejoy> output is vi /mnt/etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh
2020-02-26T19:45:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Tada
2020-02-26T19:45:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> Lol
2020-02-26T19:46:20 #kisslinux <grejoy> How am i now going to fix no internet?
2020-02-26T19:46:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Run:
2020-02-26T19:46:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> echo "export KISS_PATH=/var/db/kiss/repo/core:/var/db/kiss/repo/extra:/var/db/kiss/repo/xorg" > /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh
2020-02-26T19:46:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Then reboot
2020-02-26T19:51:23 #kisslinux <grejoy> Cant create did it and rebooted
2020-02-26T19:51:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can't create?
2020-02-26T19:52:18 #kisslinux <grejoy> Did the input and rebooted but still ip a doesnt show any address
2020-02-26T19:52:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So it's working?
2020-02-26T19:52:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can login now?
2020-02-26T19:52:57 #kisslinux <grejoy> Yup
2020-02-26T19:53:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'echo $KISS_PATH
2020-02-26T19:53:06 #kisslinux <grejoy> Just need internet
2020-02-26T19:53:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ?
2020-02-26T19:53:07 #kisslinux <kiedtl> what ip command were you running?
2020-02-26T19:53:43 #kisslinux <grejoy> Echo $KISS_PATH has no output
2020-02-26T19:53:51 #kisslinux <grejoy> i was running ip a
2020-02-26T19:54:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> grejoy: ... The /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh file must contain
2020-02-26T19:54:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> export KISS_PATH=/var/db/kiss/repo/core:/var/db/kiss/repo/extra:/var/db/kiss/repo/xorg
2020-02-26T19:54:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You need to add it to the file
2020-02-26T19:54:49 #kisslinux <grejoy> Ok ill add it in there and reboot again
2020-02-26T19:56:05 #kisslinux <grejoy> but when i enter ‘vi /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh i do see that dylanaraps on the top
2020-02-26T19:56:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> cat /etc/profile.d/kiss_path.sh
2020-02-26T19:56:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Does that show it too?
2020-02-26T19:57:24 #kisslinux <grejoy> Yup
2020-02-26T19:57:45 #kisslinux <kiedtl> now you can set up internet
2020-02-26T19:57:47 #kisslinux <kiedtl> the fun part
2020-02-26T19:57:49 #kisslinux <kiedtl> :P
2020-02-26T19:58:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You'll need to reboot
2020-02-26T19:58:48 #kisslinux <grejoy> Finally I’m getting closer,once i figure this out itll be easy,but the first try is a catastrophy
2020-02-26T19:59:01 #kisslinux <grejoy> Rebooting
2020-02-26T19:59:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> freddyruxpin: Send me the entire file for FDE. I can't seem to apply your diff. Apologies
2020-02-26T19:59:11 #kisslinux <grejoy> Login as root or user?
2020-02-26T20:00:06 #kisslinux <grejoy> Rebooted
2020-02-26T20:00:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You're installed now
2020-02-26T20:00:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't think it's in my realm to debug your internet connection.
2020-02-26T20:00:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Check your kernel config if 'ip link' is blank.
2020-02-26T20:01:07 #kisslinux <grejoy> dylanaraps I’m here no live cd just kiss. https://imgur.com/a/1KjyzbR
2020-02-26T20:01:26 #kisslinux <grejoy> ok let me check that out
2020-02-26T20:01:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If wired, use dhcpcd. If not, use wpa_supplicant + dhcpcd.
2020-02-26T20:02:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The state of C++: Making std::regex faster (it is currently faster to launch PHP to execute a regex than it is to use std::regex
2020-02-26T20:02:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://cor3ntin.github.io/posts/abi/
2020-02-26T20:04:41 #kisslinux <grejoy> dylanaraps is it somwhere here in the menuconfig.  https://imgur.com/a/R4OcdFa
2020-02-26T20:04:52 #kisslinux <grejoy> That’s in networking support
2020-02-26T20:05:10 #kisslinux <grejoy> im on ethernet btw
2020-02-26T20:05:27 #kisslinux <kiedtl> first, find out what interface you're on
2020-02-26T20:05:49 #kisslinux <kiedtl> run `ip l` and look for an interface that starts with an e
2020-02-26T20:07:02 #kisslinux <grejoy> kiedtl https://imgur.com/a/rLEKRPy
2020-02-26T20:07:24 #kisslinux <grejoy> Is it link/ether and then those numbers?
2020-02-26T20:08:11 #kisslinux <grejoy> I know my enp4s0 IP address
2020-02-26T20:08:34 #kisslinux <grejoy> Wrote that down earlier before i began with the installation
2020-02-26T20:09:02 #kisslinux <kiedtl> enp4s0 isn't an ip address, it's what your ethernet interface is.
2020-02-26T20:09:14 #kisslinux <kiedtl> looks like your kernel is missing firmware/drivers/modules.
2020-02-26T20:10:03 #kisslinux <grejoy> I meant i know the address from enp4s0 the numbers not that my ip is enp4s0
2020-02-26T20:24:21 #kisslinux <j3s[m]> grejoy I recommend going through https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Ethernet#Kernel
2020-02-26T20:36:40 #kisslinux <illiliti> which way are preferred? - https://termbin.com/nvxn
2020-02-26T20:44:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/kr1y
2020-02-26T20:45:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> NOTE: Any quoted items won't be parsed correctly. If this is a possibility(?)
2020-02-26T20:47:03 #kisslinux <kiedtl> why `set -f && set +f` over `set --`?
2020-02-26T20:48:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Stops globbing while the var is split
2020-02-26T20:48:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Should also be: set +f -- $cmdline
2020-02-26T20:48:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My bad
2020-02-26T20:49:21 #kisslinux <kiedtl> ah.
2020-02-26T20:59:04 #kisslinux <illiliti> tnx
2020-02-26T21:57:36 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> thoughts on nextdns.io?
2020-02-26T22:35:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> Why tho
2020-02-26T22:52:05 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> as an alternative to cloudflare?
2020-02-26T22:56:06 #kisslinux <kiedtl> does k1ss.org/ use cloudflare?
2020-02-26T22:57:07 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> no. ffox enables DoH by default now, but i think that's completely removed in the firefox package (or maybe just firefox-privacy settings)
2020-02-26T22:57:32 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> probably a good thing, CloudFlare is like a one-world-government on the web these days
2020-02-26T22:58:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> sup fam
2020-02-26T22:58:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> o/
2020-02-26T23:12:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> Hey hi hello
2020-02-26T23:12:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> freddyruxpin: could just use a modified host file and something like bind if you want dnssec, I'm thinking
2020-02-26T23:13:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> Cloudflare is certainly monolithic but like 40% of the internet is on AWS so does anything really matter
2020-02-26T23:14:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-26T23:14:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> There is just no hope
2020-02-26T23:14:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> qq
2020-02-26T23:14:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> Uninstall all browsers, unplug all ethernet, disconnect all wifi
2020-02-26T23:14:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> back to...
2020-02-26T23:14:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> It's unsettling how quickly the general population just decided to throw out privacy on the internet
2020-02-26T23:14:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> SNEAKER NET
2020-02-26T23:14:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> Lol yes
2020-02-26T23:14:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> Dylan can just mail us flash drives with KISS updates on it
2020-02-26T23:15:10 #kisslinux <adamantium> How long would it take me to get a sneaker net usb stick to dylanaraps
2020-02-26T23:15:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> with my pull requests?
2020-02-26T23:15:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> He's on like an island with no address right?
2020-02-26T23:15:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-26T23:17:23 #kisslinux <kiedtl> > Dylan can just mail us flash drives with KISS updates on it
2020-02-26T23:17:35 #kisslinux <kiedtl> since KISS is rolling release, that would take too long
2020-02-26T23:17:40 #kisslinux <kiedtl> let's make KISS a stable distro
2020-02-26T23:17:43 #kisslinux <kiedtl> like Debian
2020-02-26T23:20:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> Sounds good to me
2020-02-26T23:21:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> sneakerlinux
2020-02-26T23:21:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> We shall rename the project
2020-02-26T23:21:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> I hope he's cool with all this, guys
2020-02-26T23:24:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> We don't need him to be okay with it
2020-02-26T23:24:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> We can fork it
2020-02-26T23:25:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> hah
2020-02-26T23:28:29 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> usb sticks delivered by camel
2020-02-26T23:29:56 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> anyone here an opendoas user?
2020-02-26T23:41:12 #kisslinux <kiedtl> KISS is less than a year old, and yet is already has one fork
2020-02-26T23:42:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> which
2020-02-26T23:44:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> I am Freddy, recently switched from sudo
2020-02-26T23:44:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> Dylan also is iirc
2020-02-26T23:45:29 #kisslinux <konimex> two, actually, or three
2020-02-26T23:45:56 #kisslinux <konimex> depends on the definition of "fork" in distro-lang obviously
2020-02-26T23:46:15 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> dilyn, do you mind sharing your doas.conf?
2020-02-26T23:46:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> I can send it when I'm done at the gym
2020-02-26T23:46:33 #kisslinux <kiedtl> adamantium: the one which I remember is Carbs Linux
2020-02-26T23:46:42 #kisslinux <kiedtl> konimex: which?
2020-02-26T23:46:57 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> on root i can't update, get a doas error, unless i su, on user it asks me 4TIMES to authenticate during an update
2020-02-26T23:46:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> The KISS doas package includes a conf that has a skeleton you can looks at too
2020-02-26T23:47:38 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> carbs linux lol, trying to be as phat as possible
2020-02-26T23:51:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> imo carbs linux is not so much a fork, as is doing KISS linux in "full hard mode" e.g. as if dylanaraps quit. Because it seems nothing else is different
2020-02-26T23:53:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> I looked into it a while back, and could find nothing which actually sets it apart from kiss linux, other than he is technically his own bdfl, however, in kiss, dylan will be the first tell you, nothing stops any of us from doing that same thing
2020-02-26T23:54:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> He probably would encourage it
2020-02-26T23:55:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> Yeah, I mean I should probably do it, since I maintain nearly the entire gnu stack in community, I could create some kind of default which would not use busybox, would be more like void
2020-02-26T23:55:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'd learn a few things, too, if I did it
2020-02-26T23:56:27 #kisslinux <konimex> say, if one creates a distro which uses, let's just say rpm as the package manager, is it automatically a Red Hat/Fedora fork?
2020-02-26T23:57:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> carbslinux is a cool experiment, too, it shows early on that KISS will probably outlive dylan
2020-02-26T23:57:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> I think every project creator would want that
2020-02-26T23:58:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> Do it and ask RH/Fedora for support when you have a problem
2020-02-26T23:59:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> You'll find out real fast
2020-02-26T23:59:49 #kisslinux <konimex> support for what? rpm or every other software other than rpm?