Wikipedia: Citing sources

1. text (a) sdfeu.org (text (a) sdfeu.org)

In its visual editor Wikipedia helps the editing person to cite sources 
by establishing title, author, date by retrieving and parsing a given URL:

> You can add a citation by selecting from the drop-down "cite" menu 
> at the top of the editing box.
_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Does anybody know where to start coding support for citing gemini:// 
resources via this drop-down from within Wikipedia's visual editor?


According to Wikipedia citations for pages typically include:


  (required if the publication date is unknown)

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2. Alex // nytpu (alex (a) nytpu.com)

I think the main problem you'd run into is that it's easy to make a
request to another HTTP site to get that data (since you're already in
HTTP-space), but it'd be very difficult to make a request into
Geminispace unless you abuse mozz's proxy or something.  Possibly it
would be easier to write a utility hosted in Geminispace to generate
Wikipedia-format citations from a given link (or BibTeX format for wider
compatibility), which you could then paste into Wikipedia.

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3. Oliver Simmons (oliversimmo (a) gmail.com)

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 20:01, <text at sdfeu.org> wrote:
>
> In its visual editor Wikipedia helps the editing person to cite sources
> by establishing title, author, date by retrieving and parsing a given URL:
>
> > You can add a citation by selecting from the drop-down "cite" menu
> > at the top of the editing box.
> _ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources
>
> Does anybody know where to start coding support for citing gemini://
> resources via this drop-down from within Wikipedia's visual editor?

Citing sources would be exactly the same, just a different protocol in the URL.

e.g.:
 ```
Would become
{{cite web
 |title=Project Gemini FAQ
 |url=gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/faq.gmi
 |access-date=27 Feb 2021
 |url-status=live
 |archiveurl=
 |archivedate=
 |df=dmy-all
}}</ref>
 ```

The archive links don't *have* to be from archive.org, that's just
what's typically used.
AFAIK we don't have any archives like that yet, so for now that would
have to be left missing (which is perfectly fine - it's an optional
field).
The only Gemini Space archives I know of are data dumps.

Having a dedicated template for gemini space probably would be best though :)
{{Template:cite gemini space}} or something


> According to Wikipedia citations for pages typically include:
>
> * URL of the specific page
[...]
> * the date the page was accessed
>   (required if the publication date is unknown)

AFAIK this is mostly added by hand, except the URL and maybe title.
Syntax for this stuff is still not decided on so I'd wait until then
to add it anyways.


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