[users] Gemini as a local note-taking / personal wiki thing?

1. Miguel de Luis Espinosa (enteka (a) fastmail.com)

Hi all, non-subscriber here, (I prefer to browse the archives). 

What brings me here is an idea I had to use gemini as a kind of personal 
wiki. The whole thing at this point is to have a bunch of gemtext files on 
a folder and use it to keep my notes, links, projects and such in an hypertext fashion. 

Gemini syntax is so simple that it would need the whole thing a breeze. 
You only need a client able to open local files (amfora does, haven't 
tried anything else). 

Has anybody tried anything like that? And if so, any tips?

Thank you and gracias, Miguel (enteka.xyz)

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2. Christophe HENRY (listes (a) sbgodin.fr)

Le Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:29:36 +0000,
"Miguel de Luis Espinosa" <enteka@fastmail.com> a Γ©crit :

> (…)
> Gemini syntax is so simple that it would need the whole thing a
> breeze. You only need a client able to open local files (amfora does,
> haven't tried anything else). 
> 
> Has anybody tried anything like that? And if so, any tips?  

I've been doing that for years. I'm using Zim-wiki, which works like
a local wiki. Of course, it doesn't (yet) use the Gemini syntax and
allows links as the HTML does. But the purpose is exactly the same. Its
syntax is close to that of Markdown.

I would like a kind of local browser. It would browse directories a
display the Gemini pages like a browser. An editing option would be a
must :-)

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Christophe HENRY
FR EO EN - https://sbgodin.fr

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3. Sgaith (Sgiath (a) pm.me)

> > Has anybody tried anything like that? And if so, any tips?
> I've been doing that for years. I'm using Zim-wiki, which works like
> a local wiki. Of course, it doesn't (yet) use the Gemini syntax and

I love Roam Research https://roamresearch.com/ - it is life changer for me 
but sadly it is not compatible with Gemini since the core functionality 
requires inline-links.

> I would like a kind of local browser. It would browse directories a
> display the Gemini pages like a browser. An editing option would be a
> must :-)

Honestly I would rather use Vim with plugin for that 
https://github.com/samgriesemer/vim-roam

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4. Christophe HENRY (listes (a) sbgodin.fr)

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:29:20 +0000
Sgaith <Sgiath@pm.me> wrote:


> > (…)
> > I would like a kind of local browser. It would browse directories a
> > display the Gemini pages like a browser. An editing option would be
> > a must :-)  
> 
> Honestly I would rather use Vim with plugin for that
> https://github.com/samgriesemer/vim-roam

It seems quite good. I guess it would take no long time until itβ€˜s
possible to browse GemText with vim. Why not an ebook reader as well?

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Christophe HENRY
FR EO EN β€” https://sbgodin.fr
HtmGem β€” See Gemini through web
https://gmi.sbgodin.fr/htmgem

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5. Stephen Enders (stephen (a) senders.io)

Have you considered emacs org-mode? It's not quite the same syntax but is 
nearly identical to what you're describing it seems?

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On Mar 11, 2021, 06:16, Christophe HENRY wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:29:20 +0000 Sgaith  wrote: > > (…) > > I would 
like a kind of local browser. It would browse directories a > > display 
the Gemini pages like a browser. An editing option would be > > a must :-) 
> > Honestly I would rather use Vim with plugin for that > 
https://github.com/samgriesemer/vim-roam It seems quite good. I guess it 
would take no long time until itβ€˜s possible to browse GemText with vim. 
Why not an ebook reader as well? -- Christophe HENRY FR EO EN β€” 
https://sbgodin.fr HtmGem β€” See Gemini through web https://gmi.sbgodin.fr/htmgem

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6. Sgaith (Sgiath (a) pm.me)

> Have you considered emacs org-mode? It's not quite the same syntax but 
is nearly identical to what you're describing it seems?

Yeah I know it is really similar and I tried it but I wasn't able to 
switch from Vim to Emacs (even with the Evil Mode) :) 


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7. Christophe HENRY (listes (a) sbgodin.fr)

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:09:23 +0000
Stephen Enders <stephen@senders.io> wrote:

> Have you considered emacs org-mode? It's not quite the same syntax
> but is nearly identical to what you're describing it seems?

I'm stuck to Zim because other non-savvy people need to communicate
with me this way. But I keep that possibility in my mind.

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Christophe HENRY
FR EO EN β€” https://sbgodin.fr
HtmGem β€” See Gemini through web
https://gmi.sbgodin.fr/htmgem

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8. Stephen Enders (stephen+gemini (a) senders.io)

Obsidian also comes to mind: https://obsidian.md/
I was never really able to get into org-mode either for my note taking /
organization as a long time vim-user it was just more work than I cared for.

I believe CGP Grey actually covered this on a cortex podcast which I
found interesting - how can you effectively collaborate and communicate
between multiple parties with a semblance of real time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asQPALlBsvk I believe was the episode

On 3/11/21 9:56 AM, Christophe HENRY wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:09:23 +0000
> Stephen Enders <stephen@senders.io> wrote:
>
>> Have you considered emacs org-mode? It's not quite the same syntax
>> but is nearly identical to what you're describing it seems?
> I'm stuck to Zim because other non-savvy people need to communicate
> with me this way. But I keep that possibility in my mind.
>

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9. raingloom (raingloom (a) riseup.net)

On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:29:36 +0000
"Miguel de Luis Espinosa" <enteka@fastmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all, non-subscriber here, (I prefer to browse the archives). 
> 
> What brings me here is an idea I had to use gemini as a kind of
> personal wiki. The whole thing at this point is to have a bunch of
> gemtext files on a folder and use it to keep my notes, links,
> projects and such in an hypertext fashion. 
> 
> Gemini syntax is so simple that it would need the whole thing a
> breeze. You only need a client able to open local files (amfora does,
> haven't tried anything else). 
> 
> Has anybody tried anything like that? And if so, any tips?
> 
> Thank you and gracias, Miguel (enteka.xyz)

I'm trying to put something like this together using Supertag, with not
much luck so far, because Rust packaging is a pain in the ass for a
Guix user.
But a similar tag file system approach could work with any plaintext
format, or indeed any format that lets you link to other files.

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10. Chris McGee (newton688 (a) gmail.com)

I tend to take notes locally using a text editor and write markdown or
perhaps gemini now that I know about it. For links between documents some
text editors will let you navigate relative paths pretty easily. In acme
it's just a right-click on the link and it opens it up in a new panel or
activates an existing panel. You can read/edit them on the fly with no
servers required unless you choose to publish them. Full text search with
grep, manage revisions with git, back them up using tar, ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acme_(text_editor)

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 11:31 AM Miguel de Luis Espinosa <
enteka@fastmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all, non-subscriber here, (I prefer to browse the archives).
>
> What brings me here is an idea I had to use gemini as a kind of personal
> wiki. The whole thing at this point is to have a bunch of gemtext files on
> a folder and use it to keep my notes, links, projects and such in an
> hypertext fashion.
>
> Gemini syntax is so simple that it would need the whole thing a breeze.
> You only need a client able to open local files (amfora does, haven't tried
> anything else).
>
> Has anybody tried anything like that? And if so, any tips?
>
> Thank you and gracias, Miguel (enteka.xyz)
>

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11. Tolstoevsky (tolstoevsky (a) riseup.net)

I guess, vim+vimwiki or smth like that is more useful for local notes

> Hi all, non-subscriber here, (I prefer to browse the archives). 

> What brings me here is an idea I had to use gemini as a kind of
> personal wiki. The whole thing at this point is to have a bunch of
> gemtext files on a folder and use it to keep my notes, links, projects
> and such in an hypertext fashion. 

> Gemini syntax is so simple that it would need the whole thing a
> breeze.
> You only need a client able to open local files (amfora does, haven't
> tried anything else). 

> Has anybody tried anything like that? And if so, any tips?

> Thank you and gracias, Miguel (enteka.xyz)

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12. Dave Gauer (dave (a) ratfactor.com)

> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:14:06 +0000
> From: Sgaith <Sgiath@pm.me>
> 
>> Have you considered emacs org-mode? It's not quite the same syntax but 
is nearly identical to what you're describing it seems?
>
> Yeah I know it is really similar and I tried it but I wasn't able to 
switch from Vim to Emacs (even with the Evil Mode) :) 


De-lurking because this is a subject near and dear to me. I'm an ardent
fan of Vimwiki, but it didn't support the One True lightweight markup
language I'd chosen for my personal content: AsciiDoc. Adding full
AsciiDoc support to Vimwiki was a real pain, so I ended up making my own
Vim extension with identical shortcuts.

I now have a body of .adoc files that are navigable wiki-style within
Vim and *also* export (and publish) as HTML and Gopher with some simple
shell scripts!

Check out how small the extension's source is:

https://github.com/ratfactor/vviki/blob/master/plugin/vviki.vim

AsciiDoc links are way harder to parse than gem! Fork this thing and
make your dreams come true. Wiki paradise awaits.

-Dave Gauer

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