Hello Gemini mailing list, My name's Chris Were and I run a small PeerTube/YouTube. Please forgive any breach in protocol, I'm not used to mailing lists. I noticed that YouTubers were mentioned as part of gemini outreach and wanted to let you all know that I, for one, am incredibly excited to be part of this growing community of talented individuals. I'm no-where near as knowledgable as those on this list, but I'm thoroughly enjoying learning about self-hosting and this amazing new internet protocol. I'm open to feedback as to how I might help grow the community, but I also understand there's a degree of animosity about YouTubers. I'd just like to say that I really hope to be a constructive community member when it comes to gemini outreach and I'm sure speak others in that sentiment. We may get things wrong, but I assure you all that our hearts are in the right place. I'll be talking about gemini more on my channel, but I'd like to ask the list; are there are any specific things you'd like people to know, such as common misconceptions, or certain strengths gemini has? Is there any misinformation about gemini out there you feel might need correcting?
On Tue Feb 9, 2021 at 5:59 PM CET, Chris Were wrote: > I'll be talking about gemini more on my channel, but I'd like to ask the > list; are there are any specific things you'd like people to know, such > as common misconceptions, or certain strengths gemini has? Is there any > misinformation about gemini out there you feel might need correcting? > > *Don't forget to smash that like button,* > Chris Were I don't know about the others, but I for myself would like if you could "shout out" some cool gemini capsules you found, either useful or just fun. Might just be me tho :D
On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 06:03:00PM +0100, metalune wrote: > On Tue Feb 9, 2021 at 5:59 PM CET, Chris Were wrote: > > I'll be talking about gemini more on my channel, but I'd like to ask the > > list; are there are any specific things you'd like people to know, such > > as common misconceptions, or certain strengths gemini has? Is there any > > misinformation about gemini out there you feel might need correcting? > > > > *Don't forget to smash that like button,* > > Chris Were > > I don't know about the others, but I for myself would like if you could > "shout out" some cool gemini capsules you found, either useful or just > fun. Might just be me tho :D And for that, see: gemini://medusae.space/gemini://medusae.space/ -- Thomas
On 2021-02-09 17:03, metalune wrote: > On Tue Feb 9, 2021 at 5:59 PM CET, Chris Were wrote: >> I'll be talking about gemini more on my channel, but I'd like to ask >> the >> list; are there are any specific things you'd like people to know, >> such >> as common misconceptions, or certain strengths gemini has? Is there >> any >> misinformation about gemini out there you feel might need correcting? >> >> *Don't forget to smash that like button,* >> Chris Were > > I don't know about the others, but I for myself would like if you could > "shout out" some cool gemini capsules you found, either useful or just > fun. Might just be me tho :D That's a great idea. Thank :-)
On 2/9/21 5:59 PM, Chris Were wrote: > Hello Gemini mailing list, > My name's Chris Were and I run a small PeerTube/YouTube. Could you give a link to your Peertube channel? If anyone on this list would want to give feedback on the Gemini content, I'm sure they would phrase it kindly (because hey, you're here talking on the list) and would send it privately. > Please forgive any breach in protocol, I'm not used to mailing lists. You're doing fine as far as I can tell. > I noticed that YouTubers were mentioned as part of gemini outreach > and wanted to let you all know that I, for one, am incredibly > excited to be part of this growing community of talented individuals. > I'm no-where near as knowledgable as those on this list, but I'm > thoroughly enjoying learning about self-hosting and this amazing new > internet protocol. That sounds great! > I'm open to feedback as to how I might help grow the community, but I > also understand there's a degree of animosity about YouTubers. I'd > just like to say that I really hope to be a constructive community > member when it comes to gemini outreach and I'm sure speak others in > that sentiment. We may get things wrong, but I assure you all that > our hearts are in the right place. Not sure whether there's animosity against YTers per se...? In any situation where you see someone explaining something when their experience with / understanding of it is smaller than yours, it is a bit weird. I think there's a general acceptance that people can and will discuss Gemini in any way they like, and that Gemini will become more widely known to some extent. There is some disagreement about how popular Gemini would ideally be, but at least I (and I hope most would agree) think the popularity of Gemini is something that we should let go as it goes. > I'll be talking about gemini more on my channel, but I'd like to ask > the list; are there are any specific things you'd like people to > know, such as common misconceptions, or certain strengths gemini > has? Is there any misinformation about gemini out there you feel > might need correcting? What metalune said, plus maybe the following two answers to common reactions if you encounter those reactions frequently: - section 2.5 of the FAQ - to "But I would like to make things look nice": Gemini is focused on text content, and the idea is that rather than the author determining how they want readers to view it, the readers should determine how they want to view it; and as it's text content, a reader probably wants to view everything the same way. -- pjvm
Thank you for the warm welcome, I can certainly provide links to my PeerTube content. These are my tech videos on PeerTube https://share.tube/video-channels/chrisweredigital/videos and my full set of PeerTube content can be found at https://share.tube/accounts/chriswere I'm always happy to take feedback and suggestions - and thanks for your ideas in the last email. On 2021-02-09 17:56, PJ vM wrote: > On 2/9/21 5:59 PM, Chris Were wrote: >> Hello Gemini mailing list, >> My name's Chris Were and I run a small PeerTube/YouTube. > > Could you give a link to your Peertube channel? If anyone on this list > would want to give feedback on the Gemini content, I'm sure they would > phrase it kindly (because hey, you're here talking on the list) and > would send it privately. > >> Please forgive any breach in protocol, I'm not used to mailing lists. > > You're doing fine as far as I can tell. > >> I noticed that YouTubers were mentioned as part of gemini outreach >> and wanted to let you all know that I, for one, am incredibly >> excited to be part of this growing community of talented individuals. >> I'm no-where near as knowledgable as those on this list, but I'm >> thoroughly enjoying learning about self-hosting and this amazing new >> internet protocol. > > That sounds great! > >> I'm open to feedback as to how I might help grow the community, but I >> also understand there's a degree of animosity about YouTubers. I'd >> just like to say that I really hope to be a constructive community >> member when it comes to gemini outreach and I'm sure speak others in >> that sentiment. We may get things wrong, but I assure you all that >> our hearts are in the right place. > > Not sure whether there's animosity against YTers per se...? In any > situation where you see someone explaining something when their > experience with / understanding of it is smaller than yours, it is a > bit > weird. > > I think there's a general acceptance that people can and will discuss > Gemini in any way they like, and that Gemini will become more widely > known to some extent. There is some disagreement about how popular > Gemini would ideally be, but at least I (and I hope most would agree) > think the popularity of Gemini is something that we should let go as it > goes. > >> I'll be talking about gemini more on my channel, but I'd like to ask >> the list; are there are any specific things you'd like people to >> know, such as common misconceptions, or certain strengths gemini >> has? Is there any misinformation about gemini out there you feel >> might need correcting? > > What metalune said, plus maybe the following two answers to common > reactions if you encounter those reactions frequently: > > - section 2.5 of the FAQ > - to "But I would like to make things look nice": Gemini is focused on > text content, and the idea is that rather than the author determining > how they want readers to view it, the readers should determine how they > want to view it; and as it's text content, a reader probably wants to > view everything the same way.
On Tue Feb 9, 2021 at 5:59 PM CET, Chris Were wrote: > any breach in protocol, I'm not used to mailing lists. small tip, please add the response to an email at the *bottom*, it represents the natural flow of a conversation whereas putting your answer above the question would just reverse that. nothing really major, just a note for the future :D
On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 06:56:33PM +0100, PJ vM <pjvm742 at disroot.org> wrote a message of 59 lines which said: > - section 2.5 of the FAQ My experience with promoting Gemini is that, in almost every case, the criticisms I hear against Gemini are addressed in the FAQ, section 2. And, most of the times, well addressed, in my opinion. So, one could make an interesting video with each item of the FAQ. gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/faq.gmi
Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane at sources.org> writes: > My experience with promoting Gemini is that, in almost every > case, the > criticisms I hear against Gemini are addressed in the FAQ, > section > 2. And, most of the times, well addressed, in my opinion. Indeed. i've encountered people discussing Gemini as something intended to supersede the Web, even though the opening text of gemini.circumlunar.space states: > Gemini is a new internet protocol which: > > Is heavier than gopher > Is lighter than the web > Will not replace either and FAQ 1.4 states: > 1.4 Do you really think you can replace the web? > > Not for a minute! Nor does anybody involved with Gemini want to > destroy Gopherspace. Gemini is not intended to replace either > Gopher or the web, but to co-exist peacefully alongside them as > one more option which people can freely choose to use if it > suits them. That said, in terms of FAQ 1.1: > You may think of Gemini as "the web, stripped right back to its > essence" or as "Gopher, souped up and modernised a little", > depending upon your perspective. i prefer the latter perspective, as i think the former tends to encourage people to think of Gemini along the lines of, say, HTTP 1.1 and HTML 3.2. Alexis.
On Tue, 09 Feb 2021 19:47:17 +0100 "metalune" <metalune at mailbox.org> wrote: > On Tue Feb 9, 2021 at 5:59 PM CET, Chris Were wrote: > > any breach in protocol, I'm not used to mailing lists. > > small tip, please add the response to an email at the *bottom*, it > represents the natural flow of a conversation whereas putting your > answer above the question would just reverse that. nothing really > major, just a note for the future :D This is quite a significant peeve of mine. Not so much what individuals do, but rather that certain "support" products, or whatever ignore everything below a certain point (if there's any indication that the reply is at the bottom). I get why *people* are doing top posting. I don't have a huge problem with that. What I do have a problem with, is when I spend time responding meaningfully, and get a response, "your email came with no content"... It's possible it did, I'm almost certain the *reason* it did, is because you stripped anything from the first indication of a "quote" section.
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