2021-01-06T00:10:39 #kisslinux does anyone run dbus-daemon --session "manually" or like, in service files or somewhere else? 2021-01-06T01:32:26 #kisslinux ended up just throwing it in sway config 2021-01-06T01:42:54 #kisslinux that works 2021-01-06T01:43:26 #kisslinux although not where I would put something like that myself. I like to keep my WM/DE autostarts relevant to the graphical environment/WM 2021-01-06T03:55:32 #kisslinux well its only for mako 2021-01-06T03:55:48 #kisslinux and therefore only relevant when i use sway 2021-01-06T03:55:54 #kisslinux but yeah, it feels like not the best place 2021-01-06T08:40:35 #kisslinux Claudia02 re github issue, i think it's better that i manually merge PRs instead of maintainers sending PRs to both community repos, if that's what you meant 2021-01-06T11:54:13 #kisslinux hello 2021-01-06T12:17:34 #kisslinux Hi 2021-01-06T14:06:04 #kisslinux testuser[m]_ : y thats what I was pointing at. Alright. 2021-01-06T14:21:12 #kisslinux How does the new community repo work? Haven't been here in a while 2021-01-06T14:21:46 #kisslinux its just forked from the KISS repo and all new PRs are merged there 2021-01-06T14:22:38 #kisslinux Automatically or do I need to make a new pull request? 2021-01-06T14:22:46 #kisslinux you need to make a PR, ofc 2021-01-06T14:23:01 #kisslinux A PR to both repos? 2021-01-06T14:23:15 #kisslinux no need to send it to kiss-community, ill merge it manually 2021-01-06T14:23:25 #kisslinux Oh I see, sorry 2021-01-06T14:23:49 #kisslinux Sounds good 2021-01-06T14:28:45 #kisslinux Should we continue pushing to the official repos anyway? 2021-01-06T14:29:25 #kisslinux yeah, so dylan can merge them all once he is back 2021-01-06T14:29:25 #kisslinux Not the first time dylan has gone AWOL and unsurprisingly BDFL wasn't a good idea for sustainability 2021-01-06T14:42:11 #kisslinux now that you mentioned it, dylan definitely was absent, iirc same timeframe, but back in 2018-2019 2021-01-06T14:42:34 #kisslinux 2019-2020 you mean? 2021-01-06T14:43:00 #kisslinux that was for a shorter timeframe, however. he had reappeared by the first week of january iirc 2021-01-06T14:43:21 #kisslinux no, definitely 2018-2019, kiss wasn't around back then and I was helping with neofetch iirc 2021-01-06T14:44:01 #kisslinux Oh. I thought you were referring to the time he took christmas vacation at the end of 2019. 2021-01-06T14:55:25 #kisslinux perhaps this is one big “social experiment” for Dylan.. to test sustainability. anyway, we should treat it as such. 2021-01-06T15:00:00 #kisslinux I imagine Dylan is logged into this channel under a different nick, silently watching us react 2021-01-06T15:00:32 #kisslinux my theory is he went to australia (assuming he still has family there) and got stuck there 2021-01-06T15:05:56 #kisslinux whatever happened to him, it might be time to start shifting towards multiple lead maintainers at kiss-community to avoid these problems in the future 2021-01-06T15:10:54 #kisslinux ectlunya: we're already doing that :) Its primarily lead by micr0, testuser[m]_, and I 2021-01-06T15:11:27 #kisslinux acheam how's that? 2021-01-06T15:13:56 #kisslinux sn00p: I'm doing: kiss-ci/repo-bin, merging simple PRs, awesome-kiss, testuser[m]_ is doing a lot of the bigger PRs and updates which I can't do, micr0 is doing a combination of the above 2021-01-06T15:15:09 #kisslinux o/ 2021-01-06T15:15:16 #kisslinux I should look into the CI for wyverkiss, manual check is painful sometimes 2021-01-06T15:15:23 #kisslinux Oh that's interesting :) I have moved away from KISS to Gentoo for now due to unmet software requirements but I still take an interest in the project 2021-01-06T15:16:25 #kisslinux sn00p happy to have package requests as opened issues 2021-01-06T15:16:42 #kisslinux im seeing if i can get electron and electron-based native apps 2021-01-06T15:17:10 #kisslinux does electron even work in musl-based systems? 2021-01-06T15:17:18 #kisslinux the annoying thing about electron is that lots of programs require a very certain version, and will often package their own electron 2021-01-06T15:17:19 #kisslinux konimex yes 2021-01-06T15:17:26 #kisslinux with a lot of patches 2021-01-06T15:17:31 #kisslinux I'd imagine it would take systemd-levels of patching 2021-01-06T15:17:41 #kisslinux but those patches are reduced every so often 2021-01-06T15:18:04 #kisslinux i want to try uivonim which is a ui for neovim that looks nice 2021-01-06T15:18:19 #kisslinux honestly, i'd rather run electron apps in a flatpak to avoid a lot of this 2021-01-06T15:18:23 #kisslinux micr0 Unfortunately it's the JVM I need, however unless there's been progress since I last checked, it wasn't working on KISS 2021-01-06T15:18:30 #kisslinux i need to learn about flatpak 2021-01-06T15:18:42 #kisslinux I really like flatpak for dependency-heavy things 2021-01-06T15:18:53 #kisslinux i will test it 2021-01-06T15:19:04 #kisslinux also gonna make a 'big packages' issue 2021-01-06T15:20:34 #kisslinux acheam is there a chromium flatpak? 2021-01-06T15:20:43 #kisslinux sn00p JVM is really important 2021-01-06T15:21:20 #kisslinux does audio work in flatpak without needing pulse? iirc dylan tried to work on that 2021-01-06T15:22:12 #kisslinux micr0 Yeah see I wouldn't mind too much however for uni my programming module means I need Java >=8 :( 2021-01-06T15:22:40 #kisslinux micr0: yes, both ungoogled and normal 2021-01-06T15:23:51 #kisslinux acheam i tried dylan's flatpak and it wont build because of icu libraries not found 2021-01-06T15:24:16 #kisslinux micr0: hmmmm 2021-01-06T15:25:44 #kisslinux looks like it wants the .67 icu but i have the .68 2021-01-06T15:26:27 #kisslinux oh its appstream-glib that is erroring with that... 2021-01-06T15:34:21 #kisslinux okay so it looks like appstream-glib requires icu 67. so the question is, do i symlink which feels hacky, or downgrade which seems weird 2021-01-06T15:34:47 #kisslinux I would symlink 2021-01-06T15:35:10 #kisslinux I'm never a fan of downgrading packages 2021-01-06T15:37:54 #kisslinux lol im downgrading because its known state 2021-01-06T15:38:14 #kisslinux symlink might cause subtle bugs - if they changed the abi we will never know if symbols do what they should 2021-01-06T15:38:31 #kisslinux (also i looked at a few other distros and they don't symlink) 2021-01-06T15:40:28 #kisslinux makes sense 2021-01-06T15:41:13 #kisslinux i mean it looks like icu67 and 68 can be installed (at least the .so files) side-by-side 2021-01-06T15:41:21 #kisslinux but the headers, as is, we install to the same location 2021-01-06T15:42:56 #kisslinux does anything take advantage of the features added in 68? 2021-01-06T15:44:20 #kisslinux ie; could 67, 68 be installed in parallel, but only the 67 headers be installed 2021-01-06T15:44:20 #kisslinux if the headers dont match the symbols, what does that mean? 2021-01-06T15:44:20 #kisslinux yeah downgrading icu to 67 worked, now to figure out how to install chromium, electron, other software via flatpak 2021-01-06T15:48:47 #kisslinux great! 2021-01-06T15:59:32 #kisslinux running postman doesn't do anything, trying chromium next 2021-01-06T15:59:38 #kisslinux chromium requires an updated flatpak 2021-01-06T16:00:02 #kisslinux updated flatpak, now chromium will install 2021-01-06T16:00:46 #kisslinux "Your Flatpak version does not support the expose-pids flag, which means that Chromium is unable to run" 2021-01-06T16:00:57 #kisslinux flatpak seems like a bust on the first two apps I tried to run 2021-01-06T16:01:53 #kisslinux which is weird because i have CONFIG_USER_NS enabled 2021-01-06T16:02:30 #kisslinux there's some PID namespace option too in the kernel, but you probably have that enabled too 2021-01-06T16:02:51 #kisslinux CONFIG_PID_NS=y 2021-01-06T16:11:22 #kisslinux yep, can't run org.chromium.Chromium or org.getpostman.Postman 2021-01-06T16:26:41 #kisslinux i just use an artix chroot for this kinda stuff 2021-01-06T16:31:59 #kisslinux I wonder if created dummy gimp/postman/chromium packages that use flatpak under the hood is a better user experience than having no package at all 2021-01-06T16:32:44 #kisslinux ok so gimp is the only flatpak app that runs, once i used the beta flatpak because im on w a y l a n d 2021-01-06T16:34:53 #kisslinux interesting github claims the kisslinux/repo was updated 5 days ago 2021-01-06T16:34:55 #kisslinux https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=topic%3Akiss-repo&s=updated&type=Repositories 2021-01-06T16:37:58 #kisslinux excited to merge git-bruh's updates once its marked 'not draft' 2021-01-06T16:38:37 #kisslinux brb 2021-01-06T16:40:14 #kisslinux it gets "updated" (on the org) every time i push something to my fork, not sure why search shows it as 5 days ago 2021-01-06T17:14:18 #kisslinux micr0: GIMP is packaged in the kiss-garbage repo 2021-01-06T17:18:14 #kisslinux is there an actual way to get st to properly respect hidpi outside of just making the font bigger 2021-01-06T17:18:25 #kisslinux i want to try and have a single config for both laptop and pc 2021-01-06T17:24:13 #kisslinux testuser[m]_ i'll add that to the GH issue 2021-01-06T17:24:54 #kisslinux maybe also fork and make a gimp3 one in a new repo like repo-betas or something 2021-01-06T17:46:57 #kisslinux micr0 you played graal? i spent way too much time in that game 2021-01-06T17:47:15 #kisslinux ominous_anonymou so i have terrible memory, but i definitely DO remember hacking around in graal 2021-01-06T17:47:26 #kisslinux I just can't remember what age I was, server, etc 2021-01-06T17:47:36 #kisslinux I do remember the graphics though and like, making a custom home 2021-01-06T17:47:40 #kisslinux and showing that off to people 2021-01-06T17:48:04 #kisslinux yeah the level editor was built in and had a scripting language you could use to make weapons/items do really neat things 2021-01-06T17:48:42 #kisslinux and you could modify whatever graphics/tilesets you wanted. some of the servers let you submit your own swords and shields and such 2021-01-06T17:48:51 #kisslinux i played on Elven Lands if that jogs a memory 2021-01-06T17:49:52 #kisslinux maybe i can search around for likely handles 2021-01-06T17:49:56 #kisslinux i dont even remember what name i used 2021-01-06T19:09:44 #kisslinux micr0: I got a package request should I just make an issue on github, or is sufficient to tell you here? 2021-01-06T19:09:45 #kisslinux Id like to have torbrowser, or rather torbrowser-launcher seems to be the default at alot of distros.I started looking through some of the communities repos, but Im yet to find some repo that already contain it. Someone might already have packaged it though, but not to my knowledge anyway. 2021-01-06T19:23:31 #kisslinux sad_plan[m] definite make an issue since i am really forgetful and also dont use an irc bouncer so sometimes i wont see messages (though i do read scrollback) 2021-01-06T19:29:58 #kisslinux if you dont like the web interface i can recommend the cli https://cli.github.com/ 2021-01-06T19:31:02 #kisslinux gh issue create --title "torbrowser" --body "or torbrowser-launcher which seems to be the default at alot of distros" --label package 2021-01-06T20:51:22 #kisslinux acheam: i fixed the checksums in repo-bin in a pr 2021-01-06T20:51:36 #kisslinux danteissaias: Thank you! 2021-01-06T20:53:04 #kisslinux danteissaias: merge 2021-01-06T20:53:10 #kisslinux s/merge/merged 2021-01-06T20:53:31 #kisslinux awesome 2021-01-06T21:21:20 #kisslinux I was looking the other day for an alternative solution to 'kiss-outdated'. I found out that at least for github related stuff one can use rss/atom feeds. https://www.unitedbsd.com/d/354-git 2021-01-06T21:28:04 #kisslinux claudia02 i have setup neix (terminal rss reader) to follow all package releases i package on github 2021-01-06T21:29:02 #kisslinux but i might migrate to sitch which makes better sense for this use case: https://github.com/smores56/sitch#sitch 2021-01-06T21:34:49 #kisslinux I stumbled across neix also on unitedbsd. Looks interesting. For a little longer I ran sfeed/ sfeed_curses. For sfeed_curses you can also setup to mark what you have already viewed. 2021-01-06T21:35:20 #kisslinux I use this for news, reddit and yt stuff. 2021-01-06T21:35:42 #kisslinux Sitch looks good dedicated for pkg update stuff. 2021-01-06T21:37:36 #kisslinux I packaged rdrview, a small firefox reader app to convert 'modern' html pages to render for terminal browser. 2021-01-06T21:54:56 #kisslinux oh nice, will try that 2021-01-06T21:58:35 #kisslinux Oh, sitch is written in rust. It has just disqualified :D 2021-01-06T22:07:10 #kisslinux RIIC 2021-01-06T22:07:15 #kisslinux RIIB