[2022-01-22T05:03:33Z] Hi [2022-01-22T06:24:48Z] https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/contribute/respectful_code [2022-01-22T06:52:54Z] doesn't even have dark mode, my eyes are violated [2022-01-22T06:55:47Z] Hey that's called night mode [2022-01-22T13:05:28Z] Hello! [2022-01-22T13:06:28Z] Hi [2022-01-22T13:08:00Z] Is it a good idea to install grub from outside the kiss chroot? ive just heard that its not very reliable [2022-01-22T13:08:31Z] just try it bruh [2022-01-22T13:55:00Z] OK I got it installed but it says Loading Linux 5.16.2 ... and nothing else, and my caps lock button is flashing [2022-01-22T13:55:33Z] I've never seen this issue before [2022-01-22T14:06:53Z] Hey sorry I got disconnected [2022-01-22T14:13:46Z] Oh my it happened again, just a quick one, if I wanted to load all of the firmware in the firmware tarball, would I do "cp ./* /usr/lib/firmware" from inside the extracted tarball of firmware [2022-01-22T14:17:25Z] hello [2022-01-22T14:22:41Z] Hello. [2022-01-22T14:22:51Z] Hmm maybe my kernel is broken [2022-01-22T14:23:31Z] That would be unfortunate. [2022-01-22T14:25:30Z] Yeah I'm getting a kernel panic, it sucks. [2022-01-22T14:30:36Z] Oh my why does it continue to disconnect me [2022-01-22T15:59:09Z] Got another kernel panic. Very confused by this now [2022-01-22T16:09:05Z] I have an initramfs and everything but I still get a kernel panic despite everything being built into the kernel (no modules) [2022-01-22T16:09:43Z] Show [2022-01-22T16:10:46Z] The only things displayed on the screen is "Loading Linux 5.16.2..." and the caps lock flashes. [2022-01-22T16:13:56Z] Wait where are the kernel images stored after they are installed? [2022-01-22T16:14:25Z] They don't install themselves [2022-01-22T16:14:27Z] I think [2022-01-22T16:14:38Z] u need to copy arch/x86/bzImage [2022-01-22T16:14:49Z] Oh wait really [2022-01-22T16:15:02Z] is that copy it to /boot? [2022-01-22T16:19:22Z] tried copying bzImage to /boot. same result [2022-01-22T16:20:07Z] My esp is mounted at /boot/efi if that makes any difference [2022-01-22T16:21:41Z] Apparently the vmlinuz file is the bzImage? but that was already in /boot [2022-01-22T16:42:57Z] I'm just gonna restart and follow a YouTube guide, I probably missed out something stupid [2022-01-22T17:16:07Z] Oh my ram was made to use SwapOnZRAM idk if that breaks stuff [2022-01-22T18:03:04Z] Guest7864: so you are mounting your FAT32 formatted partition to /boot/efi? [2022-01-22T18:03:15Z] are you using grub or efibootmgr directly to boot? [2022-01-22T18:03:28Z] I restarted my install, im using /boot now [2022-01-22T18:03:37Z] okay [2022-01-22T18:03:57Z] a minimal, simple way to boot and make sure your kernel works fine is to just use efibootmgr directly [2022-01-22T18:04:19Z] Though what I overlooked is that my ram is set to function as swap space and not as regular ram so I've fixed that in my fstab and hopefully it fixes things [2022-01-22T18:04:21Z] after building the kernel, move the arch/x86/boot/bzImage file /boot [2022-01-22T18:05:10Z] I thought it was vmlinuz that was the image and and it was moved by make install in kernel source directory [2022-01-22T18:05:47Z] make install presumably copies all the relevant things to the relevant locations (specifically, I think the default is /boot and /usr/local/lib) [2022-01-22T18:06:00Z] so if you're using modules you're right to use make install [2022-01-22T18:06:16Z] I'm specifically avoiding modules LOL [2022-01-22T18:06:26Z] then you can just copy the bzImage file [2022-01-22T18:06:45Z] alright, and leave the System.map and vmlinuz where they are? [2022-01-22T18:06:51Z] mmhmm [2022-01-22T18:07:12Z] you just need the bzImage file, which would be an EFI executable file (if you care to inspect it with `file bzImage`) [2022-01-22T18:07:15Z] Sounds good, was also wondering if the system expects ram to be present [2022-01-22T18:07:26Z] you would certainly need RAM [2022-01-22T18:07:39Z] because my ram is swap space [2022-01-22T18:07:39Z] but the settings in your fstab aren't relevant until after the kernel is loaded and execs /sbin/init [2022-01-22T18:08:21Z] My arch install loads up fine with zram, I just don't know how it interacts with other systems. [2022-01-22T18:09:11Z] https://github.com/kiss-community/wiki/tree/master/storage this is how I handled zram and zswap on KISS [2022-01-22T18:10:11Z] you could also change the loglevel of your kernel (it might be set to a value where you can't actually see a panic happening?) [2022-01-22T18:10:30Z] Right, I thought RAM was wiped on a restart. [2022-01-22T18:11:08Z] I would rather not use Zram as I have more than enough RAM to handle my system. I just don't know how to revert it back [2022-01-22T18:11:28Z] either way from there I would just use efibootmgr real quick to test, and do `efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 1 -L KISS -l '/bzImage' -u 'root=/dev/sda2 rw'`, assuming your device is /dev/sda and your ESP is /dev/sda1, you named your kernel in /boot bzImage, and your root filesystem is on /dev/sda2 [2022-01-22T18:11:39Z] thanks for that link though, its very useful [2022-01-22T18:11:53Z] your zram should be turned off when you poweroff :V [2022-01-22T18:12:29Z] Yeah but is it zram forever because I used genfstab for my fstab and it reports zram [2022-01-22T18:13:07Z] I'm sorry if these questions are redundant, I really don't know a whole lot about ZRAM [2022-01-22T18:14:36Z] zram is just some block device -- optimally, you would have some number of zram devices which total together to equal your total amount of RAM [2022-01-22T18:15:07Z] for instance I wrote that zram article on an 8GB laptop, and so my example creates 4 zram block devices of 2G in size [2022-01-22T18:15:16Z] Yeah I think my RAM is all one device [2022-01-22T18:15:21Z] its all /dev/zram0 [2022-01-22T18:15:56Z] it doesn't so much matter how many devices you have nowadays anyways [2022-01-22T18:16:12Z] is there not a way I can revert my zram to work as normal ram again [2022-01-22T18:16:16Z] it was more relevant during earlier releases but it's become far more efficient nowadays [2022-01-22T18:16:33Z] you would start here https://github.com/kiss-community/wiki/blob/8a55f77fd3d2bb708f1a528e0769780e31b11d36/storage/zram.txt#L98 [2022-01-22T18:16:41Z] or just disable it in the kernel [2022-01-22T18:17:20Z] If I disable it in the kernel does it ignore that its made to be zram and just functions as normal RAM? [2022-01-22T18:17:46Z] well it's not made to be zram until you hit userspace and init mounts all the filesystems specified in /etc/fstab [2022-01-22T18:18:22Z] Oh thats super weird, maybe my livecd mounted my ram as ZRAM automatically then? [2022-01-22T18:18:57Z] presumably your live cd didn't build zram as a module and instead built it in, in which case only a single block device is created unless some other number is specified in the kernel command line [2022-01-22T18:19:00Z] It's Fedora I don't know if they are big advocates of zram [2022-01-22T18:19:36Z] Oh thats interesting [2022-01-22T18:24:09Z] Hey guys is there anyone who's using Nvidia gpu? [2022-01-22T18:24:56Z] idk about "big advocates", but I'd say advocates to some degree - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SwapOnZRAM#Benefit_to_Fedora [2022-01-22T18:30:16Z] zazpro: what do u wanna know [2022-01-22T18:33:21Z] testuser[m]: Just installed system on my main pc. When trying to run sway I get. EGL_NOT_INITIALIZED error [2022-01-22T18:33:36Z] DRI2 failed to create server [2022-01-22T18:33:57Z] I guess problem is in missconfigured kernel or in the driver? [2022-01-22T18:34:26Z] I can't believe there isn't a rewrite of wl-clipboard in go... [2022-01-22T18:34:29Z] Guess I have a project [2022-01-22T18:46:49Z] Hey this is probably stupid but in /usr/lib/firmware am i meant to have the contents of the linux firmware folder i extracted or the linux firmware folder? [2022-01-22T18:51:15Z] contents [2022-01-22T18:51:28Z] Thanks [2022-01-22T18:51:50Z] testuser[m]: bruh [2022-01-22T18:52:27Z] > blackout [2022-01-22T18:52:54Z] since when was this word race related? [2022-01-22T18:56:37Z] Most English words which incorporate 'black' are negative, pejorative, or derogatory, and can be contrasted with their counterpart words; these words are almost assuredly identical with black swapped out for white, and these antonyms are just that [2022-01-22T18:56:54Z] Essentially, black{foo} is associated with a negative thing [2022-01-22T18:57:14Z] From there, you can analyze it however you want; psychology, history, etymology... [2022-01-22T18:58:10Z] it's less about racism than it is about "We can describe this scenario without using a term that clings to historically codified tropes in white countries where black == bad && white == good, so why wouldn't we do that" [2022-01-22T18:59:33Z] I like their point at the end about idioms: "Prefer descriptive and factual statements instead of idioms." This I think is a more salient argument for those who merely think that these sorts of requirements are purely that "racism bad and {slave,blackout,...} are racist because {history,black,...}" [2022-01-22T19:15:15Z] zazpro: ur using gkiss? Did u enable the modeset parameter [2022-01-22T19:15:27Z] dilyn: why in go? [2022-01-22T19:15:38Z] because I don't like rust [2022-01-22T19:15:47Z] neither building rust itself, nor the things written in it [2022-01-22T19:15:59Z] Bruh wl-clipboard is in c [2022-01-22T19:16:04Z] and the C implementation is GPL:P [2022-01-22T19:16:12Z] Bruh [2022-01-22T19:16:33Z] No I am not using gkiss as I don't know what's that. And which modeset stuff should I do? [2022-01-22T19:18:03Z] Are u using nouveau? [2022-01-22T19:18:10Z] Wat gpu [2022-01-22T19:18:43Z] I have enabled nouveau in the kernel I think. Gpu: gtx1080 [2022-01-22T19:19:39Z] dilyn: what do you think of stuff like crazy -> unexpected, incoherent [2022-01-22T19:20:03Z] zazpro: Bruh i don't think nouveau will work at all for that card [2022-01-22T19:20:09Z] U need proprietary driverd [2022-01-22T19:20:32Z] zazpro: https://github.com/gkisslinux/grepo [2022-01-22T19:21:57Z] Understood, thanks :) [2022-01-22T19:53:14Z] seems like a good idea to use more precise terms than crazy in technical discussions [2022-01-22T22:31:31Z] dilyn: are there no permissive compilers? [2022-01-22T23:34:20Z] Any pointers on how to install a python module "properly"? Should it be done with kiss? https://github.com/quodlibet/mutagen [2022-01-22T23:35:31Z] Perhaps I'll go with PIP. [2022-01-22T23:41:08Z] Pip put stuff in /usr/bin, not sure what I feel about that [2022-01-22T23:41:52Z] grep for "setup.py" in community, e.g. https://github.com/kiss-community/community/tree/main/community/python-psutil [2022-01-22T23:43:26Z] venvs