[2023-11-12T01:46:29Z] I made many packages for CRUX, but had only one package for Gentoo. BTW, they both are source-based, like KISS. [2023-11-12T01:48:54Z] Can you find crtatmega328p.o, libatmega328p.a, libatmega328p.o on your system? [2023-11-12T01:49:21Z] yeah [2023-11-12T01:49:34Z] like i said [2023-11-12T01:49:51Z] is in /usr/avr/lib/avr5 [2023-11-12T01:57:20Z] Try: avr-gcc -mmcu=atmega328p -o uart_test.elf main.c -L/usr/lib/avr/avr6 [2023-11-12T01:57:43Z] s/avr6/avr5/ [2023-11-12T01:59:13Z] You should use main.c instead of main.o when running gcc [2023-11-12T03:42:42Z] Does kiss package manager support meson? [2023-11-12T03:56:29Z] what you mean by support? [2023-11-12T03:57:17Z] Will it use meson if the package i add to my personal repo needs it [2023-11-12T03:57:51Z] if you have meson installed [2023-11-12T03:58:05Z] you can build your package [2023-11-12T03:58:17Z] all kiss does is like exec the instructions [2023-11-12T03:59:03Z] Okay, and does anyone have a script that auto generates /version files? [2023-11-12T03:59:59Z] i dont think so [2023-11-12T04:00:17Z] since you need to change the sources and version file everytime [2023-11-12T04:01:28Z] Ah damn, was hoping itd be automatic on custom repos lol [2023-11-12T04:03:12Z] just checksums are like that [2023-11-12T04:03:30Z] but maybe people have something [2023-11-12T04:08:08Z] There a usermod command in busybox? [2023-11-12T05:23:20Z] hi [2023-11-12T06:42:20Z] hi sad_plan [2023-11-12T06:42:38Z] have you guys ever tased Lindt chocolate before? [2023-11-12T06:49:17Z] I dont belive I have [2023-11-12T06:50:52Z] give me your IBAN so i can wire transfer you the money to buy one [2023-11-12T06:51:00Z] best chocolate ever [2023-11-12T06:52:52Z] riight. never seem them before though. I dont belive they sell them here [2023-11-12T06:53:02Z] nor in sweden for that matter [2023-11-12T06:53:02Z] fidn them in ur local supersupermarket [2023-11-12T06:53:17Z] woah youre live in sweden???? [2023-11-12T06:53:20Z] thats awesome [2023-11-12T06:53:35Z] then im sure you know who sjalv: is i think [2023-11-12T06:53:39Z] what [2023-11-12T06:53:46Z] Whats the best way to modify the bemenu config? [2023-11-12T06:53:52Z] you already know where I live [2023-11-12T06:53:57Z] synimas: man 1 bemenu [2023-11-12T06:54:04Z] and no I dont know who sjalv: is [2023-11-12T06:54:15Z] you can use environment variables to configure bemenu i believe [2023-11-12T06:54:31Z] Ah, thought it was a config.h as well [2023-11-12T06:54:41Z] its wayland, you dont usually expect suckless style software there anymore [2023-11-12T06:54:45Z] Also, is putting dwl in my .profile a bad idea? [2023-11-12T06:54:56Z] if youre using [ $tty = /dev/tty ] && dwl then no its a good idea [2023-11-12T06:55:23Z] unless youre starting other software in your profile [2023-11-12T06:55:32Z] like pipewire or dbus or anything for that matter other than dwl [2023-11-12T06:55:35Z] Does that open it in a separate tty? [2023-11-12T06:55:35Z] whats wrong with just typing dwl manually when you log in instead? [2023-11-12T06:56:05Z] Prefer not too [2023-11-12T06:56:26Z] sad_plan: ive been always manually starting wayland and xorg by hand and i can see why autostart can be better [2023-11-12T06:56:32Z] or autologin for that matter [2023-11-12T06:58:11Z] I get the deal, you just wanna jump straight into the action. I like having to enter my login credentials instead, just type sx to start a X server instead. [2023-11-12T06:58:27Z] same, its more secure sometimes [2023-11-12T06:58:41Z] especially for laptops (except having slock & encrypted disk) [2023-11-12T06:58:41Z] Your string gets a unary operator expected output [2023-11-12T06:58:48Z] in case I wreck something, I dont have to deal with my .profile attempting to start something thats broken [2023-11-12T06:59:13Z] Actually thats a fair point, i dont have other ttys setup atm [2023-11-12T06:59:30Z] sad_plan: thats why you have the tty check to only tty1 [2023-11-12T06:59:37Z] kiss unfortunately doesnt really set up all the ttys for whatever reason [2023-11-12T07:00:06Z] its setup by runit instead. however theres nothing stopping you from having your init start them instead [2023-11-12T07:00:11Z] runit doesnt setup ttys [2023-11-12T07:00:16Z] I used to do that before [2023-11-12T07:00:42Z] did init handle it? [2023-11-12T07:00:45Z] I forget [2023-11-12T07:00:53Z] inittab handles it yes [2023-11-12T07:00:57Z] havent used KISS' init in a long time now [2023-11-12T07:01:00Z] right [2023-11-12T07:01:05Z] runit should handle it imo tbh [2023-11-12T07:01:46Z] yeah, it keeps it out of the init system, and if you wanna start more/less ttys, you can easily activate/deactivate them. its how I have them setup [2023-11-12T07:02:35Z] I just have rcsm start my gettys instead. makes me depend on rcsm, which maybe is less ideal, but Im probably always going to have a service manager anyway so [2023-11-12T07:02:54Z] why dont you make a kiss fork? [2023-11-12T07:02:56Z] Ill just throw a shell script link with my starting shit into bin [2023-11-12T07:03:09Z] synimas: make sure its local, like ~/bin or ~/.local/bin [2023-11-12T07:03:14Z] u dont wanna be touching /usr [2023-11-12T07:03:32Z] sewn: wym, I have a kiss fork [2023-11-12T07:03:41Z] i mean, a full fork [2023-11-12T07:03:45Z] like complete detachment [2023-11-12T07:03:52Z] Do i have to add ~/bin to path? [2023-11-12T07:03:56Z] ofc [2023-11-12T07:04:10Z] Also, why shant i bother /usr? [2023-11-12T07:04:15Z] sad_plan: you should name it breakup linux [2023-11-12T07:04:27Z] synimas: mostly because its reserved for system programs and such [2023-11-12T07:04:31Z] lol, why that name though? [2023-11-12T07:04:36Z] because youre sad_plan [2023-11-12T07:04:41Z] What ab /bin [2023-11-12T07:04:41Z] and youre forking off kiss [2023-11-12T07:04:44Z] right [2023-11-12T07:04:47Z] lol [2023-11-12T07:04:51Z] /bin is symlink to /usr/bin [2023-11-12T07:05:07Z] Ah i see [2023-11-12T07:05:38Z] anyway, I almost have all packages I use in my repo. I however dont really see any benefit to instead have all of them in my repo. and who else but me would even use it? [2023-11-12T07:05:42Z] Most applications use /usr [2023-11-12T07:06:29Z] sad_plan: i would [2023-11-12T07:06:46Z] thats if it actually switches out system components for better alternatives as well [2023-11-12T07:06:59Z] i have ran sbase and ubase but you can recall how that wen [2023-11-12T07:07:00Z] t [2023-11-12T07:07:00Z] dont you require abit more performane than what tinyx gives you? [2023-11-12T07:07:10Z] tinyx just doesnt work for me AFAIK [2023-11-12T07:07:14Z] you were displeased by no colors [2023-11-12T07:07:22Z] why wouldnt it? [2023-11-12T07:07:24Z] yk actually hold on [2023-11-12T07:07:28Z] its in kiss-xorg right [2023-11-12T07:07:31Z] yep [2023-11-12T07:07:32Z] kiss b tinyx [2023-11-12T07:07:36Z] yes [2023-11-12T07:07:46Z] to launch it is Xfbdev? [2023-11-12T07:07:56Z] no, you gotta fix sx first [2023-11-12T07:08:02Z] right [2023-11-12T07:08:04Z] you can use mine if id like instead [2023-11-12T07:08:07Z] ill use yours yeah [2023-11-12T07:08:20Z] http://0x0.st/Hvi4.sh [2023-11-12T07:08:25Z] or fetch it in my repo [2023-11-12T07:08:27Z] thanksies [2023-11-12T07:09:06Z] doesnt seem like Mod4 works [2023-11-12T07:09:10Z] it doesnt [2023-11-12T07:09:11Z] so i cant launch a terminal [2023-11-12T07:09:13Z] why not? [2023-11-12T07:09:21Z] tinyx doesnt support it [2023-11-12T07:09:47Z] well i like to have modkey [2023-11-12T07:09:50Z] its even been discussed at tinycorelinux's forums. its seems theyre rather annoyd by it aswell, but ive yet to see any fix for it.. [2023-11-12T07:10:04Z] it would be alot more convinient. but ive learned to live without it [2023-11-12T07:10:08Z] even XFree86 supported mod4 [2023-11-12T07:10:15Z] ill change it to alt and see if GLX works [2023-11-12T07:10:17Z] just like I dont have scrollback on my terminal [2023-11-12T07:10:22Z] yeah [2023-11-12T07:10:43Z] sad_plan: i dont mean to be discourging, but you dont really deserve to live by these restrictions tbh [2023-11-12T07:10:49Z] hm, maybe some doofus removed it. seeings as xorg is a fork of Xfree86 [2023-11-12T07:10:58Z] lol, wym? [2023-11-12T07:11:10Z] idk you dont have to restrict yourself [2023-11-12T07:11:50Z] I dont, I just dont care for scrollback anymore, and Id rather have a statically linked tinyx, than having to deal with abi instabillty from time to time [2023-11-12T07:12:11Z] not that I have that issue too much, but its anoying when it happens [2023-11-12T07:12:25Z] interestingly, tinyX supports EGL but not Vulkan or OpenGL [2023-11-12T07:12:42Z] huh. so no gaming for you on tinyx then :P [2023-11-12T07:12:42Z] doesnt seem to support Xinerama or Xrandr though [2023-11-12T07:13:01Z] the performance would be horrendous anyway though [2023-11-12T07:13:01Z] even mcf's tiny wayland compositor has bare bones multi monitor support though [2023-11-12T07:13:10Z] Accidentally made my start wayland command shorthand as sway lmao [2023-11-12T07:13:19Z] Fitting? [2023-11-12T07:13:22Z] tinyx doesnt afaik. its rather barebone [2023-11-12T07:13:36Z] which is fine by me, as I only use 1 monitor anyway [2023-11-12T07:13:43Z] synimas: i named mine sw like sx [2023-11-12T07:13:54Z] i see [2023-11-12T07:14:10Z] I always used startx [2023-11-12T07:14:13Z] do you run on a thinkpad? [2023-11-12T07:14:19Z] Yeah [2023-11-12T07:14:22Z] X270 [2023-11-12T07:14:30Z] booo [2023-11-12T07:14:34Z] Is feh in any repos? [2023-11-12T07:14:42Z] Lmao, you use a mac or sum? [2023-11-12T07:14:45Z] sx is leaner though. its just a small shell script [2023-11-12T07:14:53Z] feh is in kiss-xorg synimas [2023-11-12T07:14:57Z] synimas: feh is in kiss-xorg, but for a wayland image viewer user soething like mpv or pqiv [2023-11-12T07:15:03Z] or... god forbid imv [2023-11-12T07:15:12Z] Oh i meant for setting wallpapers lol [2023-11-12T07:15:12Z] sad_plan: what about you? what kind of thinkpad do you use? [2023-11-12T07:15:15Z] synimas: use wbg [2023-11-12T07:15:20Z] Thank you [2023-11-12T07:15:21Z] or swaybg if youre using sway [2023-11-12T07:15:27Z] I dont have a thinkpad. I have an acer laptop [2023-11-12T07:16:11Z] God everything takes so long to setup [2023-11-12T07:16:22Z] aside from that, I have an old desktop I built like 10 years ago [2023-11-12T07:17:10Z] synimas: no it doesnt. if you do things properly, you only have to set things up once. put everything in a kiss repo, and just build everything, and youre done :D even the kernel [2023-11-12T07:17:12Z] There an updated list of kiss repos somewhere? [2023-11-12T07:17:16Z] synimas: kiss-find [2023-11-12T07:17:20Z] ^ [2023-11-12T07:17:27Z] its in community [2023-11-12T07:17:31Z] I mean the initial setup [2023-11-12T07:17:47Z] well yeah, that takes time [2023-11-12T07:18:00Z] it doesnt take time if you have dotfiles ready [2023-11-12T07:18:07Z] but if you have a 10 year old machine then yes it will take forever!!!! [2023-11-12T07:18:30Z] Gotta learn how to make a kiss repo [2023-11-12T07:18:34Z] its no faster than my shitty laptop tbqh sewn [2023-11-12T07:18:49Z] and my laptop is 5 years old now? i think [2023-11-12T07:18:51Z] im still considering running kiss on my thinkpad, im scared it will explode [2023-11-12T07:18:52Z] Then its on to taking learning c and cpp seriously [2023-11-12T07:19:14Z] I bought an ax210 specifially for using linux without modules [2023-11-12T07:19:27Z] The wifi card [2023-11-12T07:19:38Z] sewn: itll just take a really long time to build stuff. try a rpi instead if you love waiting for things to compile :p [2023-11-12T07:19:55Z] i will just use distcc so i can offload the work to my pc [2023-11-12T07:19:55Z] would probably either not be able to, or take a month to build a whole system [2023-11-12T07:19:59Z] Is crosscompiling from windows super gross? [2023-11-12T07:20:04Z] thats cheating [2023-11-12T07:20:04Z] yes [2023-11-12T07:20:05Z] absolutely [2023-11-12T07:20:09Z] you are a criminal SCUM [2023-11-12T07:20:10Z] Lmfao [2023-11-12T07:20:22Z] Anyone have an irc relay that i can mooch off of? [2023-11-12T07:20:26Z] you mean bouncer? [2023-11-12T07:20:30Z] Yeah [2023-11-12T07:20:38Z] Cant find a pubnix with one atm [2023-11-12T07:20:40Z] well i know two free bouncers [2023-11-12T07:20:56Z] one is a pubnix hosted on projectsegfau.lt but its somewhat unstable so i moved to pico.sh [2023-11-12T07:21:07Z] pico.sh is also unstable but it goes back instantly [2023-11-12T07:21:25Z] theres even sourcehut but you pay for it [2023-11-12T07:21:44Z] Once i setup my repos with dwl and pfetch and shit it all should be unlimited right? [2023-11-12T07:21:48Z] sure [2023-11-12T07:21:52Z] Automatic i mean [2023-11-12T07:22:00Z] kiss u && kiss U from then [2023-11-12T07:22:01Z] Idk where unlimited came from [2023-11-12T07:22:18Z] My end goal is minecraft [2023-11-12T07:22:33Z] wait, a free bouncer. that nice though [2023-11-12T07:22:51Z] i wanted to donate to projectsegfault because i used their bouncer for some time [2023-11-12T07:23:01Z] but they use liberapay and i dont want to make a one time payment [2023-11-12T07:23:07Z] i mean, i want to, just not monthly [2023-11-12T07:23:11Z] Im too lazy to check logs [2023-11-12T07:23:11Z] i get that [2023-11-12T07:23:39Z] I do check logs here, but #oasis dont have logs.. not that it has lots of activity though [2023-11-12T07:23:48Z] theres always free bouncers [2023-11-12T07:23:59Z] theres ZNC on envs.net (i use it for my matrix) but it was horrible to setup [2023-11-12T07:24:15Z] Matrix pisses me off [2023-11-12T07:24:18Z] Way too slow [2023-11-12T07:24:22Z] depends on the homeserver [2023-11-12T07:24:33Z] i stopped using matrix because the EMS libera bridge died [2023-11-12T07:24:41Z] Even on my modern desktop its slow, but yes it does depend on the homeserver [2023-11-12T07:24:42Z] I see. didnt think there were any free bouncers. but now that I think about it, people offer alot of things for free so, why not bouncers aswell [2023-11-12T07:25:01Z] Why use matrix when xmpp is the sams shit [2023-11-12T07:25:05Z] Reinventing the wheel [2023-11-12T07:25:29Z] i used matrix because of the irc bridge [2023-11-12T07:25:33Z] setting up znc on your machine isn't difficult either, that's what I use as a bouncer [2023-11-12T07:25:53Z] i cant use my irc client with it [2023-11-12T07:26:30Z] sewn: do you use the webclient for pico, or a terminal irc client? [2023-11-12T07:26:35Z] i use senpai [2023-11-12T07:26:42Z] senpai(1) forever [2023-11-12T07:26:49Z] catgirl forever bruh [2023-11-12T07:26:58Z] ok fine ill try it [2023-11-12T07:27:12Z] it only makes sense if im using pounce as the bouncer though [2023-11-12T07:27:19Z] senpai was designed around soju [2023-11-12T07:27:20Z] lol. I wish it was a bit more customizable though. like irssi i.e [2023-11-12T07:27:27Z] I see [2023-11-12T07:27:29Z] while catgirl wasnt really designed for- [2023-11-12T07:27:35Z] isnt senpai written in go or something? [2023-11-12T07:27:37Z] >https://x0.at/lTvC.txt [2023-11-12T07:27:50Z] sad_plan: yes, i like it for that reason too [2023-11-12T07:28:14Z] are you using netbsd-curses? [2023-11-12T07:28:21Z] senpai doesnt need ncurses [2023-11-12T07:28:24Z] go build for me [2023-11-12T07:28:30Z] it uses tcell and its own vendored tui code [2023-11-12T07:28:36Z] cool [2023-11-12T07:28:42Z] see above log though, cant build catgirl [2023-11-12T07:28:43Z] Bemenu doesnt have a pixel by pixel size modifacation lol [2023-11-12T07:28:45Z] she doesnt like me [2023-11-12T07:28:49Z] Just scale [2023-11-12T07:29:04Z] try the one in my repo. it has couple patches from oasis. so should build with netbsd-curses [2023-11-12T07:29:26Z] does for me anyway [2023-11-12T07:29:31Z] oh yeah [2023-11-12T07:29:38Z] kiss-dumpsterfire right? [2023-11-12T07:29:42Z] ye [2023-11-12T07:30:09Z] Nvm i lied [2023-11-12T07:30:23Z] sad_plan: https://x0.at/7FXL.txt [2023-11-12T07:30:25Z] didnt your momma teach you not to lie synimas [2023-11-12T07:31:01Z] ah, remove the static flag. [2023-11-12T07:31:05Z] as I build it statically linked [2023-11-12T07:31:07Z] right lmao [2023-11-12T07:31:13Z] No but she did tell me football was a mans game [2023-11-12T07:31:18Z] not sure how good openssl is for that [2023-11-12T07:31:37Z] synimas: does she not know theres womans football? [2023-11-12T07:31:48Z] Shes dead [2023-11-12T07:31:56Z] She doesnt know shit [2023-11-12T07:32:05Z] Im sorry to hear that [2023-11-12T07:32:06Z] jeez man shes yo mom [2023-11-12T07:32:12Z] damn [2023-11-12T07:32:37Z] sad_plan: this is gonna sound stupid but how on earth do i configure this [2023-11-12T07:33:03Z] ./j [2023-11-12T07:33:09Z] it does have a configure file you can use, aside from that, it doesnt really need much [2023-11-12T07:33:13Z] Prob shojldbe said ghG [2023-11-12T07:33:18Z] God k cant type [2023-11-12T07:33:18Z] are u good [2023-11-12T07:33:47Z] man catgirl will tell you about it sewn. you can also generate a token so youll autmatically be authenticated. [2023-11-12T07:33:54Z] ah ok cool [2023-11-12T07:34:09Z] no mouse support? [2023-11-12T07:34:19Z] ive never gotten it to work though. however im probably doing something wrong. never bothered to fix it again [2023-11-12T07:34:22Z] nah [2023-11-12T07:34:22Z] hi [2023-11-12T07:34:24Z] bye [2023-11-12T07:34:36Z] didnt ask me much about configuration [2023-11-12T07:34:41Z] needed to set a host though [2023-11-12T07:34:51Z] yeah, host is the only requirement [2023-11-12T07:35:00Z] is there a sample config i can look after [2023-11-12T07:35:20Z] oh right its there [2023-11-12T07:35:24Z] the man page is really thorough [2023-11-12T07:35:28Z] yep [2023-11-12T07:36:49Z] Is qutebrowser in a repo? [2023-11-12T07:36:58Z] nope [2023-11-12T07:37:02Z] Unfortunate [2023-11-12T07:37:11Z] doesnt that still only run on X? or has it been ported to wayland [2023-11-12T07:37:11Z] its QT and rather massive [2023-11-12T07:37:13Z] Any vim based browsers? [2023-11-12T07:37:14Z] you could use webkit though [2023-11-12T07:37:21Z] Like vimb [2023-11-12T07:37:22Z] surfer, if youre on wayland [2023-11-12T07:37:22Z] synimas: theres uh [2023-11-12T07:37:25Z] woah surfer?? [2023-11-12T07:37:35Z] Seems vimb is there [2023-11-12T07:37:35Z] or vimb, luakit, wyeb on X [2023-11-12T07:37:40Z] oh right neosurf doesnt have wayland [2023-11-12T07:37:51Z] neosurf? [2023-11-12T07:37:51Z] neosurf is netsurf but with vi interface (like netsurf-vi by ddevault) [2023-11-12T07:37:53Z] Does vimb automagically go for wayland? [2023-11-12T07:37:57Z] vimb is just electron [2023-11-12T07:38:01Z] i think [2023-11-12T07:38:02Z] aaah, yeah thats the browser from cobaltlinux [2023-11-12T07:38:06Z] vimb is webkit [2023-11-12T07:38:11Z] oh right vieb is the one with electron [2023-11-12T07:38:14Z] yes [2023-11-12T07:38:20Z] honestly wasnt that great [2023-11-12T07:38:26Z] Looks like vimb is in the xorg repo, does kt need xorg deps? [2023-11-12T07:38:45Z] it needs stuff from kiss-xorg, so kinda [2023-11-12T07:38:57Z] sad_plan: sasl external 'cert' configuration is like automatic password login right? [2023-11-12T07:39:15Z] yes, thats atleast how I understand it [2023-11-12T07:39:40Z] but ive never gotten it to work. not sure why. lmk if you get it to work, and ill revisit it [2023-11-12T07:42:04Z] its stuck on travelling thats for sure [2023-11-12T07:42:11Z] might not work with soju [2023-11-12T07:42:33Z] yep ok i cant use catgirl, sad [2023-11-12T07:42:50Z] sasl doesnt work? [2023-11-12T07:42:55Z] no i just cant use my bouncer [2023-11-12T07:43:02Z] ah [2023-11-12T07:43:35Z] according to the soju README, catgirl *barely* implements soju's features [2023-11-12T07:43:46Z] and they explicitly said that supporting soju is a non goal [2023-11-12T07:43:53Z] maybe when i have my own server ill setup pounce or something [2023-11-12T07:43:54Z] hm. I see [2023-11-12T07:47:24Z] Can anyone spare a someblocks config? [2023-11-12T07:47:30Z] synimas: use slstatus [2023-11-12T07:47:43Z] someblocks is bleh [2023-11-12T07:47:46Z] cpp [2023-11-12T07:47:53Z] no bar is best bar [2023-11-12T07:47:54Z] Okay [2023-11-12T07:48:06Z] sad_plan: i used to live with no bar for a long time on dwl [2023-11-12T07:48:16Z] till i got bored and made my own bar [2023-11-12T07:48:16Z] then realized how hard it was [2023-11-12T07:48:34Z] because of the compositor only having the ability to communicate either via IPC or stdout [2023-11-12T07:48:43Z] slstatus just worked out of the box though [2023-11-12T07:48:54Z] you can use slstatus -s and then just have the bar read from it [2023-11-12T07:49:09Z] Can slstatus run any command and display the output? [2023-11-12T07:49:14Z] yes, read the config.h [2023-11-12T07:49:15Z] I see. Ive never bothered with it. I can see the aestetics with it, but I dont personally need it. [2023-11-12T07:49:16Z] run_command [2023-11-12T07:49:36Z] Ive got two batteries, id be convenient to see em both [2023-11-12T07:49:40Z] Ah okah [2023-11-12T07:49:55Z] You read and reply fast, whats your wpm? [2023-11-12T07:50:02Z] me? [2023-11-12T07:50:09Z] sewn: [2023-11-12T07:50:30Z] why does that matter? [2023-11-12T07:50:36Z] It doesnt [2023-11-12T07:50:37Z] skill matters more in this case [2023-11-12T07:50:45Z] im not sure what my wpm is tho [2023-11-12T07:51:12Z] Suprised suckless hasnt moved over to wayland [2023-11-12T07:51:23Z] i have 134wpm [2023-11-12T07:51:25Z] what about you sad_plan [2023-11-12T07:51:29Z] they seem to hate on wayland [2023-11-12T07:51:30Z] St is the worst god damn terminal ever though [2023-11-12T07:51:34Z] synimas: its hard to program for wayland [2023-11-12T07:51:40Z] I was just going to do a monkeytype and tell you [2023-11-12T07:51:46Z] i disagree, foot is much better than st [2023-11-12T07:51:53Z] although it lacks like ONE or TWO things bad [2023-11-12T07:52:04Z] in terms of featureset, but in design st wins [2023-11-12T07:52:09Z] Thats what i just said [2023-11-12T07:52:12Z] like foot has tons of goodies [2023-11-12T07:52:13Z] a [2023-11-12T07:52:22Z] But why does st win design? [2023-11-12T07:52:38Z] sewn: uh, I got 88 [2023-11-12T07:52:44Z] Mines bad [2023-11-12T07:52:49Z] I need to work on it [2023-11-12T07:52:51Z] I really like st [2023-11-12T07:52:52Z] wpm doesnt matter guys [2023-11-12T07:53:07Z] I know. I personally think I type plenty fast enough [2023-11-12T07:53:21Z] yeah i was a bit confused [2023-11-12T07:53:26Z] My thumb typing is lacming in ghe accurate category [2023-11-12T07:53:31Z] see that 134wpm i have? in reality i type pretty slow because of slow brain formulating thoughts [2023-11-12T07:54:39Z] Yall know learncpp.com? [2023-11-12T07:54:44Z] no [2023-11-12T07:54:46Z] no [2023-11-12T07:54:55Z] C>cpp [2023-11-12T07:54:59Z] Ah damn, check it out then [2023-11-12T07:55:05Z] But thats what i was gling to ask [2023-11-12T07:55:15Z] If there was anything like that but for c [2023-11-12T07:55:19Z] the C99 book [2023-11-12T07:55:30Z] or something [2023-11-12T07:55:43Z] me i learned C from writing suckless patches and small little programs [2023-11-12T07:55:55Z] There a version thats been put into html form? [2023-11-12T07:56:07Z] theres tons of resources for learning C all around. udemy, codecademy, aswell as numerous books [2023-11-12T07:56:37Z] AOC is coming up [2023-11-12T07:56:44Z] woah ilt [2023-11-12T07:56:46Z] Whats aoc [2023-11-12T07:56:49Z] advent of code [2023-11-12T07:56:52Z] Articles lf confed? [2023-11-12T07:56:54Z] there is https://www.learn-c.org/ though [2023-11-12T07:56:56Z] Oh [2023-11-12T07:57:17Z] time for rebranding [2023-11-12T07:57:32Z] you got tired of people not writing your name correctly illiliti? [2023-11-12T07:57:50Z] maybe [2023-11-12T07:57:57Z] took me some time to memorize [2023-11-12T07:58:21Z] Might link config.h to .config lol [2023-11-12T07:58:24Z] wanted to take ill but it's taken already :( [2023-11-12T07:58:25Z] you could also just switch one letter and boom, youre lit [2023-11-12T07:59:18Z] What rss feeds do yall use for security information? [2023-11-12T07:59:25Z] i dont use rss [2023-11-12T07:59:26Z] Or mailing lists [2023-11-12T07:59:57Z] i just follow phoronix every once in a while [2023-11-12T08:09:17Z] sad_plan: nice CFLAGS [2023-11-12T08:09:20Z] are they for like [2023-11-12T08:09:21Z] optimizations? [2023-11-12T08:09:55Z]