[2024-05-26T01:00:03Z] <midfavila> oh
[2024-05-26T01:00:05Z] <midfavila> look
[2024-05-26T01:00:11Z] <midfavila> it's riteo
[2024-05-26T01:00:14Z] <midfavila> smdh
[2024-05-26T04:39:01Z] <midfavila> fuck
[2024-05-26T04:39:09Z] <midfavila> mnt reform is on the way
[2024-05-26T04:39:22Z] <midfavila> might port kiss to it
[2024-05-26T07:53:08Z] <sewn> midfavila: you got a mnt reform??????????
[2024-05-26T07:53:10Z] <sewn> dang you rich
[2024-05-26T12:54:56Z] <sad_plan> mnt reform is pretty cool. although the price to performance ratio is.. not that great though
[2024-05-26T12:55:10Z] <sad_plan> I wonder when the pocket comes out aswell. their mini laptop
[2024-05-26T12:55:17Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: what specs you got though?
[2024-05-26T12:57:36Z] <sad_plan> wait, the pocket is available https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/pocket-reform
[2024-05-26T12:58:44Z] <sad_plan> omg, it has ortholinear keyboard asell. how awesome is that
[2024-05-26T18:28:08Z] <sewn> why is the pocket so darn expensive
[2024-05-26T18:28:18Z] <sewn> i could buy a full decked out x2100 with 10th generation cpu
[2024-05-26T18:28:33Z] <sewn> there are even custom pcbs to make the keyboard ortho or split
[2024-05-26T18:28:37Z] <sewn> actual scam wth
[2024-05-26T18:35:02Z] <sad_plan> the price comes from being open, and custom I suppose. frameworks are also somewhat more expensive because of this
[2024-05-26T19:26:51Z] <midfavila> sewn, not rich, i'm just frugal 
[2024-05-26T19:27:05Z] <sewn> What does that mean
[2024-05-26T19:27:11Z] <midfavila> i just got the imx8 som sad_plan
[2024-05-26T19:27:21Z] <sad_plan> better at spending less money sewn
[2024-05-26T19:27:49Z] <midfavila> sewn the reform is completely custom and required a lot of risk and work
[2024-05-26T19:28:09Z] <midfavila> and besides i have sdf and my workstation for sheer performance
[2024-05-26T19:28:26Z] <midfavila> i bought the reform because of all of tge little QoL features
[2024-05-26T19:28:28Z] <midfavila> the*
[2024-05-26T19:28:51Z] <midfavila> although the ls1028a som is pretty solid
[2024-05-26T19:28:55Z] <sewn> whats wrong with a x220
[2024-05-26T19:29:48Z] <midfavila> an x220 doesn't have a trackball, mechanical keyboard, open source schematics, etc
[2024-05-26T19:29:53Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: cool
[2024-05-26T19:30:08Z] <midfavila> not to mention it's hard to get aftermarket parts vs the reform
[2024-05-26T19:30:25Z] <sewn> so gay
[2024-05-26T19:30:26Z] <midfavila> since the reform uses off the shelf parts for most stuff
[2024-05-26T19:30:53Z] <sad_plan> would that be the i.mx8mq or the plus model?
[2024-05-26T19:31:01Z] <midfavila> the imx8mq
[2024-05-26T19:31:11Z] <midfavila> i don't want the plus
[2024-05-26T19:31:19Z] <sad_plan> thats probably one of the best sellingpoints for the reform. you can find parts from it alot of places
[2024-05-26T19:31:25Z] <sad_plan> I see. why not? appat from the price perhaps
[2024-05-26T19:31:28Z] <midfavila> imx8mq is the most stable and efficient
[2024-05-26T19:31:32Z] <sad_plan> I see
[2024-05-26T19:31:45Z] <midfavila> also doesn't have integrated wifi and bt
[2024-05-26T19:32:45Z] <sad_plan> why would you not want wifi? I get bluetooth, but wifi
[2024-05-26T19:32:53Z] <sad_plan> do you never run wifi?
[2024-05-26T19:33:53Z] <midfavila> i don't not want wifi
[2024-05-26T19:34:00Z] <midfavila> i want discrete wifi
[2024-05-26T19:34:21Z] <midfavila> otherwise i'm wasting money on parts i won't use
[2024-05-26T19:34:52Z] <midfavila> like i bought the mobo my workstation has in part because it has very minimal onboard stuff
[2024-05-26T19:35:13Z] <sad_plan> hm, I see
[2024-05-26T19:36:55Z] <midfavila> but yeah i'll either port kiss to it or install p9 and then just virtualize kiss
[2024-05-26T19:39:57Z] <sad_plan> have you used plan9 before?
[2024-05-26T19:40:01Z] <midfavila> yep
[2024-05-26T19:40:22Z] <midfavila> not extensively but i attended the 2020 p9 bootcamp at sdf
[2024-05-26T19:41:07Z] <sad_plan> does it suffice for you though? I mean, if you use VMs, probably anyone could make use of it though. atleast to some extent
[2024-05-26T19:41:09Z] <sad_plan> cool
[2024-05-26T19:42:23Z] <midfavila> i don't really use the web so
[2024-05-26T19:42:27Z] <midfavila> yeah it does
[2024-05-26T19:42:53Z] <midfavila> i'm gonna be doing more programming soon as well, inshallah
[2024-05-26T19:42:59Z] <sad_plan> yeah, that sets the bar a lot lower tbh :p
[2024-05-26T19:43:05Z] <sad_plan> nice
[2024-05-26T19:44:23Z] <midfavila> at some point i'mm gonna go full schizo and retreat to a log cabin in the woods where i'll spend the rest of my days working on an OS in Scheme
[2024-05-26T19:45:44Z] <sad_plan> cabin in the woods sounds nice
[2024-05-26T20:29:37Z] <riteo> midfavila: based
[2024-05-26T20:30:11Z] <riteo> dripping wisdom from every letter, +1 for the minimal motherboard and modularity requirements
[2024-05-26T20:30:33Z] <riteo> nowadays we have super fast peripheral busses, fuck onboard stuff.