2019-10-30T00:00:21 #kisslinux <mahmudov> for a xfce4 de what do you think
2019-10-30T00:00:47 #kisslinux <mahmudov> sndio is enough
2019-10-30T00:01:09 #kisslinux <mahmudov> i mean, it can be replacement of pulsaudio
2019-10-30T00:01:19 #kisslinux <mahmudov> what do you thnk
2019-10-30T00:05:03 #kisslinux <konimex> I don't use DEs so no idea
2019-10-30T08:43:23 #kisslinux <belfry> Yeah, you can use sndio instead of pulse
2019-10-30T08:48:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PulseAudio has one foot in the grave anyway.
2019-10-30T08:48:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> PipeWire is the new kid in town.
2019-10-30T08:48:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Of course...
2019-10-30T08:48:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Software A becomes "stable" just in time for shiny new Software B to replace it and the cycle continues.
2019-10-30T09:19:55 #kisslinux <unternet> pulse about to die? music in my ears!
2019-10-30T09:20:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://pipewire.org/
2019-10-30T09:21:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/PipeWire/pipewire
2019-10-30T09:21:37 #kisslinux <unternet> that website looks suspiciously fancy while javascript is off
2019-10-30T09:21:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Mandatory dbus: https://github.com/PipeWire/pipewire/blob/master/meson.build#L192
2019-10-30T09:22:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And of course you can run it on top of Pulse. So we have ALSA -> PulseAudio -> PipeWire.
2019-10-30T09:22:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Sounds really sane.
2019-10-30T09:22:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 3 layers for audio.
2019-10-30T09:23:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If you really wanted to you could throw JACK into that list.
2019-10-30T09:23:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ALSA -> PulseAudio -> JACK -> PipeWire.
2019-10-30T09:23:46 #kisslinux <unternet> can you plug one of those back into alsa? virtual feedback loop?
2019-10-30T09:23:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh yeah
2019-10-30T09:26:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> D A E M O N S
2019-10-30T09:26:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/PipeWire/pipewire/issues/130
2019-10-30T09:26:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Add another to the list.
2019-10-30T11:39:27 #kisslinux <belfry> Btw you can pipe ALSA to sndio
2019-10-30T11:40:14 #kisslinux <belfry> > sndio -> ALSA -> PulseAudio -> JACK -> PipeWire
2019-10-30T11:40:43 #kisslinux <belfry> We are reaching levels of autism that shouldn't even be possible!
2019-10-30T12:23:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> heh
2019-10-30T13:50:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What is going on here: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues
2019-10-30T13:51:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 12+ pages in and still the same.
2019-10-30T13:52:19 #kisslinux <konimex> ...so, anti/pro-Chinese sentiment made by N++?
2019-10-30T13:52:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Looks that way.
2019-10-30T13:52:51 #kisslinux <konimex> looking at N++ track record, I'd lean to the former
2019-10-30T13:52:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Which caused 12+ pages of "spam" issues.
2019-10-30T13:54:08 #kisslinux <konimex> https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v781-free-uyghur-edition/
2019-10-30T13:54:40 #kisslinux <konimex> so, this maybe caused the flood
2019-10-30T13:54:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Please complete the security check to access notepad-plus-plus.org
2019-10-30T13:54:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> meh
2019-10-30T13:55:07 #kisslinux <konimex> cloudflare server
2019-10-30T13:55:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2019-10-30T13:55:27 #kisslinux <konimex> make sense since China would attack the server too
2019-10-30T13:55:46 #kisslinux <konimex> s/China/Chinese nationalists
2019-10-30T13:57:57 #kisslinux <konimex> the surprising thing is they highlighted Uyghur instead of Hong Kong, not that it would make a difference
2019-10-30T14:03:42 #kisslinux <raph_ael> the situation of Uygurs is far more old, and probably more terrible, even if it's complicated to make comparisons on these kind of topics
2019-10-30T14:06:17 #kisslinux <konimex> dylan: you get that from hn/reddit? hn is silent it seems
2019-10-30T14:06:25 #kisslinux <konimex> or I just missed the train
2019-10-30T14:12:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: hn quickly pushed it to page 4+.
2019-10-30T14:13:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Their algorithm does this...
2019-10-30T14:13:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21395251
2019-10-30T14:13:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/dp5pw8/notepads_new_release_named_free_uyghur_triggering/
2019-10-30T14:14:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The thread on /g/ was vanished too.
2019-10-30T14:14:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Gone.
2019-10-30T14:15:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/73370272
2019-10-30T14:19:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> New thread: http://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/73372350
2019-10-30T15:18:53 #kisslinux <belfry> Damn lol
2019-10-30T15:19:04 #kisslinux <belfry> Notepad++ looks to be in shambles
2019-10-30T15:20:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nah, it's fine.
2019-10-30T15:20:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Any publicity is good publicity. ;)
2019-10-30T15:24:37 #kisslinux <belfry> True lol
2019-10-30T15:37:19 #kisslinux <raph_ael> depends :)
2019-10-30T15:38:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nah
2019-10-30T15:38:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's always good (even if it looks bad).
2019-10-30T15:39:15 #kisslinux <belfry> there is a plenty of celebrities that built their careers on negative press
2019-10-30T15:39:48 #kisslinux <belfry> and even really bad reputation garners positive attention (see jaled murderers' gfs)
2019-10-30T15:39:52 #kisslinux <belfry> *jailed
2019-10-30T15:58:56 #kisslinux <raph_ael> things around non consented sex is not much good nowadays wether adults or childs
2019-10-30T16:02:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Of course. We're not talking about the actions themselves but the publicity generated (in general).