2020-02-12T00:00:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Workaround: about:config, browser.tabs.remote.autostart;false
2020-02-12T00:00:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Send me logs when you get a chance too.
2020-02-12T00:00:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (firefox >file 2>&1, make it crash)
2020-02-12T00:01:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> right
2020-02-12T00:01:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> what is browser.tabs.remote.autostart
2020-02-12T00:01:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Turns off multi-process
2020-02-12T00:01:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Which seems to be related somehow.
2020-02-12T00:01:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Last time this happened no one sent me logs.
2020-02-12T00:01:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-12T00:02:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I can't reproduce either ;)
2020-02-12T00:02:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> aha
2020-02-12T00:02:10 #kisslinux <adamantium> so that makes me important
2020-02-12T00:02:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> let's see if i can get you a log then
2020-02-12T00:02:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Makes it extra fun
2020-02-12T00:02:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;)
2020-02-12T00:05:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> here you go dylanaraps https://termbin.com/e5oe
2020-02-12T00:06:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> steps to reproduce: with default firefox install (mv ~/.mozilla .mozilla.bak) ...
2020-02-12T00:06:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > line 10: Error: Error retrieving geoip data
2020-02-12T00:06:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is a good thing
2020-02-12T00:06:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-02-12T00:06:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> 1. open some website in first tab. 2. open youtube.com in new tab
2020-02-12T00:06:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> 3. youtube.com still works (note this)
2020-02-12T00:07:07 #kisslinux <adamantium> 4. login to mozilla sync with your mozilla account (in my case it will install ublock origin ad blocker)
2020-02-12T00:07:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> 5. refresh youtube.com CRASH
2020-02-12T00:07:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> seems connected to being logged into mozilla sync
2020-02-12T00:07:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> imo
2020-02-12T00:07:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Mozilla sync would pull down some firefox settings no?
2020-02-12T00:07:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> probably
2020-02-12T00:07:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> yes
2020-02-12T00:07:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> But -privacy works?
2020-02-12T00:08:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> because i think after logout of mozilla sync it will still crash the tab
2020-02-12T00:08:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> unlike before
2020-02-12T00:08:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> thusly yes, some setting it must be!
2020-02-12T00:08:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/7dhw
2020-02-12T00:08:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: correct, so now my choices are rm -rf ~/.mozilla || kiss i firefox-privacy
2020-02-12T00:08:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Try setting those in about:config
2020-02-12T00:08:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> They're from firefox-privacy
2020-02-12T00:08:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-02-12T00:09:07 #kisslinux <adamantium> where do i put those
2020-02-12T00:09:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> about:config
2020-02-12T00:09:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not 1:1. Just search for the name and input the value
2020-02-12T00:09:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> See if it still crashes
2020-02-12T00:10:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> i do not see geo.provider...
2020-02-12T00:11:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Create it then :D
2020-02-12T00:11:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> firefox is extensible!
2020-02-12T00:11:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or ignore it
2020-02-12T00:11:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It means one of two things
2020-02-12T00:11:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It was removed
2020-02-12T00:11:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> or it isn't in about:config by default
2020-02-12T00:12:16 #kisslinux <adamantium> i do not see a button to create a key
2020-02-12T00:12:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh you have to right click
2020-02-12T00:13:26 #kisslinux <illiliti> is there any posix compatible alternative to find -execdir ?
2020-02-12T00:14:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: those settings do not fix the tab crash
2020-02-12T00:14:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What does -execdir do?
2020-02-12T00:14:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Noted
2020-02-12T00:14:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will dig some more tomorrow
2020-02-12T00:15:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's almost 3am
2020-02-12T00:15:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok good because i cant do this right now
2020-02-12T00:15:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-12T00:15:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > multiple definition of `memory_debug_mode'
2020-02-12T00:15:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Package #3 fail
2020-02-12T00:15:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> gnupg1
2020-02-12T00:15:43 #kisslinux <illiliti> dylanaraps: cd's into target dir and execute command
2020-02-12T00:16:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> probably because it's outdated
2020-02-12T00:16:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> btw dylanaraps I want to make gnupg2 have a gpg alternative symlink can we do that
2020-02-12T00:17:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> basically ln -s /usr/bin/gpg2 "$1/usr/bin/gpg"
2020-02-12T00:17:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> illiliti: https://termbin.com/bl1v
2020-02-12T00:17:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Sure
2020-02-12T00:17:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> right now gpg2 is a second class citizen needlessly
2020-02-12T00:17:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> thank you dylanaraps
2020-02-12T00:18:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> i dont even have gnupg1 installed
2020-02-12T00:18:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> but i have no /bin/gpg
2020-02-12T00:18:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;-)
2020-02-12T00:19:51 #kisslinux <illiliti> dylanaraps: it only works if target is dir. i mean target is file, but tnx for your idea. i'll investigate it futher
2020-02-12T00:20:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> illiliti: That's what the code does
2020-02-12T00:20:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I just named the variable $file instead of $dir
2020-02-12T00:20:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My bad
2020-02-12T00:21:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> gnupg1 is fixe
2020-02-12T00:21:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> d
2020-02-12T00:25:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> what's a shell command i can run as root to suspend my laptop
2020-02-12T00:26:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No idea
2020-02-12T00:27:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I've never used suspend/hibernate on Linux ;)
2020-02-12T00:27:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> echo mem > /sys/power/state i think
2020-02-12T00:27:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I like off to mean off
2020-02-12T00:27:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> wish me luck
2020-02-12T00:27:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o7
2020-02-12T00:27:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> efivar has the same issue as libXt
2020-02-12T00:27:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> yes! dylanaraps  that works
2020-02-12T00:27:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> out of bounds
2020-02-12T00:28:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-02-12T00:28:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> who needs systemctl suspend lol
2020-02-12T00:28:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> the kernel sometimes forgets to enable your wireless card after that
2020-02-12T00:29:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> you sure?
2020-02-12T00:29:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> pretty sure
2020-02-12T00:29:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> that doesn't sound good
2020-02-12T00:29:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2020-02-12T00:29:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> that's like, the biggest complaint you see about suspend
2020-02-12T00:29:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> besides "suspend doesn't work"
2020-02-12T00:29:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> it's probably driver and hardware related bug
2020-02-12T00:29:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> ive been suspending this laptop successfully for years
2020-02-12T00:29:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's a feature!
2020-02-12T00:30:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> you probably have junk hardware
2020-02-12T00:30:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> I've only ever gotten this macbook to suspend with the tweaks done by the linux-macbook kernel on the aur
2020-02-12T00:30:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;)
2020-02-12T00:33:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> night folks
2020-02-12T00:33:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> o/
2020-02-12T01:02:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> im joking dilyn anyways about junk, just fyi. "less supported" is all i meant
2020-02-12T01:03:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> imo i think the best supported laptops are going to be business class dells and thinkpads probably and everything else might be a toss up
2020-02-12T01:15:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> nah this laptop is straight junk hehe
2020-02-12T01:25:37 #kisslinux <mforney> E5ten: if sbase install(1) conflicts with other implementations' behavior, i'd consider that a bug
2020-02-12T01:26:09 #kisslinux <mforney> unfortunately there is no standard, which it makes it difficult to be sure your implementation is doing the right thing
2020-02-12T01:27:51 #kisslinux <E5ten> "echo test | install /dev/stdin test"
2020-02-12T01:27:51 #kisslinux <E5ten> will leave you with a normal file containing test for most installs and a FIFO for sbase
2020-02-12T01:27:55 #kisslinux <mforney> a lot of suckless people don't like bug reports without patches. personally, i have no problem with it
2020-02-12T01:28:30 #kisslinux <E5ten> where should I report?
2020-02-12T01:31:08 #kisslinux <mforney> you can send a message to dev⊙so i also have a personal sbase issue tracker at https://todo.sr.ht/~mcf/sbase if you don't want to risk people whining that you didn't attach a patch
2020-02-12T01:31:33 #kisslinux <mforney> but, i am already looking into it, so maybe no need. just need to figure out how other implementations work
2020-02-12T01:35:56 #kisslinux <E5ten> great thanks
2020-02-12T01:36:53 #kisslinux <E5ten> (would also appreciate -p being added cuz it seems qt5-base uses it in the build process, I just used sed to remove the usage from it but it'd be nicer for it to build without further modification)
2020-02-12T01:38:04 #kisslinux <mforney> i think the solution is to delete all the S_IS* branches. not sure why they are there in the first place
2020-02-12T01:39:30 #kisslinux <E5ten> it looks like GNU has some stuff with them?
2020-02-12T01:40:00 #kisslinux <E5ten> but I don't think toybox or busybox do and I've been using busybox install until like a day ago without issue so that should be fine
2020-02-12T03:26:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> Anybody know why my primary x clipboard does not grab  text from firefox's web page, but does from the url bar?
2020-02-12T03:26:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> it forces me to always right-click copy from the firefox website
2020-02-12T03:39:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> i have both xsel and xclip installed
2020-02-12T03:39:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> idk
2020-02-12T03:40:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> maybe it's a wayland problem they just removed the feature?
2020-02-12T03:41:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> mighty strange
2020-02-12T03:41:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> do you understand what I'm saying?
2020-02-12T03:41:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> has it ever worked?
2020-02-12T03:42:01 #kisslinux <adamantium> IDK i always used chrome
2020-02-12T03:42:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2020-02-12T03:42:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> do you have firefox, I could ask you to test
2020-02-12T03:42:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'm not sure why it would work only in the address bar
2020-02-12T03:42:35 #kisslinux <dilyn> removed
2020-02-12T03:42:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah it works
2020-02-12T03:42:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> haha
2020-02-12T03:42:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> Basically, highlight some text in a firefox webpage
2020-02-12T03:42:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> then middle click paste it to another app
2020-02-12T03:42:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> does it work?
2020-02-12T03:42:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> mmhm
2020-02-12T03:43:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> do you have firefox-privacy installed
2020-02-12T03:43:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> it works for both clipboards
2020-02-12T03:43:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> don't middle click
2020-02-12T03:43:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> :2020-02-12T03:43:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> yes
2020-02-12T03:43:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> try ctrl+c and ctrl+v
2020-02-12T03:43:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> those work for me
2020-02-12T03:43:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'm asking about the primary clipboard
2020-02-12T03:43:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> which is middle click
2020-02-12T03:43:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah middle clicking results in a different paste result
2020-02-12T03:43:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> poop
2020-02-12T03:43:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> so... i guess i can reproduce haha
2020-02-12T03:43:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> wait
2020-02-12T03:43:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> so you're saying
2020-02-12T03:43:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> you have same problem as me then
2020-02-12T03:44:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah, i just always use keyboard shortcuts and not middle click
2020-02-12T03:44:16 #kisslinux <adamantium> sure
2020-02-12T03:44:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> too much hassle on a trackpad
2020-02-12T03:44:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> but yeah
2020-02-12T03:44:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok cool
2020-02-12T03:45:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> i bet you firefox devs broke it because they are targetting wayland
2020-02-12T03:45:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> and wayland doesnt have primary clipboard IIRC
2020-02-12T03:45:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> why are devs like this
2020-02-12T04:06:02 #kisslinux <konimex> anyone on kiss right now? can anyone send me the manifest of gzip? thanks in advance
2020-02-12T04:15:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> https://pastebin.com/9iVZUMJT
2020-02-12T04:18:50 #kisslinux <konimex> good thing it doesn't have its own library
2020-02-12T04:19:15 #kisslinux <konimex> is zcat, zmore, etc. a proper binary or a shell script?
2020-02-12T04:20:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> zcat is a script
2020-02-12T04:20:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> presumably same story for the rest
2020-02-12T04:22:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol zfgrep is litterally zgrep -F
2020-02-12T04:22:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> why
2020-02-12T04:35:09 #kisslinux <konimex> dylan: you might be interested in https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/shit
2020-02-12T06:51:12 #kisslinux <monochromal> dylanaraps: im currently installing KISS
2020-02-12T06:51:31 #kisslinux <monochromal> andim done rebuilding
2020-02-12T06:51:41 #kisslinux <monochromal> s/andim/and im/g
2020-02-12T06:53:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-02-12T06:54:16 #kisslinux <monochromal> now on network
2020-02-12T06:54:19 #kisslinux <monochromal> eiwd is having an error
2020-02-12T06:54:20 #kisslinux <monochromal> http://termbin.com/kcde
2020-02-12T06:54:59 #kisslinux <monochromal> i skipped wpa for eiwd if that means anything
2020-02-12T06:55:12 #kisslinux <monochromal> skipped dosfstools as well
2020-02-12T06:55:30 #kisslinux <monochromal> and eudev
2020-02-12T06:56:07 #kisslinux <monochromal> as i'm going to try and setup mdev right away
2020-02-12T06:59:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I need to give eiwd some love
2020-02-12T07:06:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Will need to do a package manager release to fix that
2020-02-12T07:10:11 #kisslinux <monochromal> dylanaraps: huh, it's just the auto* stuff missing
2020-02-12T07:11:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> monochromal: Ah
2020-02-12T07:11:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will fix
2020-02-12T07:11:34 #kisslinux <monochromal> not sure if automake or autoconf or both though
2020-02-12T07:21:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fixe
2020-02-12T07:21:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> d
2020-02-12T07:39:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's a page on full disk encryption in the Wiki now
2020-02-12T07:39:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://getkiss.org/wiki/full-disk-encryption
2020-02-12T07:44:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Wayland 1.18 Released With Meson Support, Other Minor Changes
2020-02-12T07:44:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wayland-1.18-Released
2020-02-12T07:44:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I thought Wayland was just a protocol :^)
2020-02-12T07:46:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-02-12T07:46:18 #kisslinux <fehawen> Hello hello
2020-02-12T07:55:10 #kisslinux <monochromal> dylanaraps: shouldn't KISS be using the latest linux-lts for the headers?
2020-02-12T07:55:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> nice work dylanaraps !
2020-02-12T07:57:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> My understanding is we are using LTS for the headers, and our lts will be 5.4.X
2020-02-12T07:57:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> monochromal: It doesn't really matter right now
2020-02-12T07:57:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will be bumped when the headers include new features
2020-02-12T08:04:50 #kisslinux <fehawen> dylanaraps: I just realized there's no scrollback in birch (obviously), which'd be nice to have. Not sure if that'd be possible though; printing the output to the tmp file, then reprint (cat, whatevs) the entire tmp file? Or would that just be... weird?
2020-02-12T08:05:07 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: it is now building , had to add autoreconf and --without-makeinfo to the build file
2020-02-12T08:06:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> fehawen: I had it half working a while ago
2020-02-12T08:06:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's another tricky feature though
2020-02-12T08:07:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Why not call it emacs-git?
2020-02-12T08:07:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> Well there is emacs28 branch also now
2020-02-12T08:07:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> I was thinking it's extra helpful to say what branch it is
2020-02-12T08:07:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Gotcha
2020-02-12T08:07:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> when emacs27 comes out it will bump to emacs280git
2020-02-12T08:08:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> we could call it emacs-git, however if you prefer.
2020-02-12T08:08:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> I have no preference.
2020-02-12T08:09:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm looking at repology to see what other distros call it
2020-02-12T08:09:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: actually emacs-git might help ease the pain of removing emacs27-git and installing emacs28-git when emacs 27 is main
2020-02-12T08:09:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: I think we should call it just emacs-git !
2020-02-12T08:09:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Alright
2020-02-12T08:09:56 #kisslinux <fehawen> dylanaraps: Sure is. And only just realized that "${unick:0:10}" means I only ever see "dylanaraps", and not potentially "dylanaraps2" lol. But nicks must be length capped, right? Otherwise the longest nick's length'd have to be calculated I assume
2020-02-12T08:10:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-02-12T08:11:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> bash isn't the best language to write a TUI in ;)
2020-02-12T08:11:35 #kisslinux <fehawen> Nope :P
2020-02-12T08:11:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It'd be easier if we could share data between input/output
2020-02-12T08:11:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> Ok dylanaraps  should be rdy for merge
2020-02-12T08:11:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> thx
2020-02-12T08:12:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-02-12T08:16:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> lazygit never heard of it
2020-02-12T08:16:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's kinda neat
2020-02-12T08:16:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Haven't used it though
2020-02-12T08:16:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> i recommend magit !!!!!!!!!
2020-02-12T08:16:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> and magit is already battle tested
2020-02-12T08:16:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I recommend git =)
2020-02-12T08:16:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;)
2020-02-12T08:17:07 #kisslinux <adamantium> sans go dependency
2020-02-12T08:17:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> Magit is the one package, I would use even if i was a vimmer, I would keep Emacs open just for it
2020-02-12T08:18:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-02-12T08:18:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> You seen how fast I can be on magit
2020-02-12T08:18:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> it saves me a lot of time
2020-02-12T08:18:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> :D
2020-02-12T08:18:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> and keystrokes
2020-02-12T08:19:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I only ever use a few git commands :P
2020-02-12T08:19:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh man, I end up doing all kinds of stuff i didn't even know git could do by using magit
2020-02-12T08:19:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> add, commit, reset, push, checkout, stash, pull, diff
2020-02-12T08:19:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I think that's it
2020-02-12T08:19:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> because it is discoverable as you type, and '?' always shows all available commands from the screen you are on
2020-02-12T08:20:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'git stash' is awesome as a lazy person
2020-02-12T08:20:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> YES
2020-02-12T08:21:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> you forget merge and fetch
2020-02-12T08:21:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> i also like emacs "ediff" for diffing files and cherry picking changes between them
2020-02-12T08:21:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't use merge and fetch
2020-02-12T08:21:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> ah
2020-02-12T08:22:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> i use the magit diff too though, to look at things quite frequently
2020-02-12T08:22:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> I can quickly discard hunk regions that way
2020-02-12T08:34:50 #kisslinux <icyphox> dylanaraps: I'm getting a checksum mismatch for gcc while trying to 'kiss u'.
2020-02-12T08:36:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 2 secs
2020-02-12T08:41:53 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: can we add https:// to freenode.logbot.info/kisslinux to make it clickable for some of us ;)
2020-02-12T08:42:01 #kisslinux <adamantium> (in the topic)
2020-02-12T08:42:08 #kisslinux <icyphox> ^
2020-02-12T08:43:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will do
2020-02-12T08:43:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> icyphox: Delete the source from ~/.cache/kiss/sources/gcc/ and re-download it
2020-02-12T08:43:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Verifies fine for me
2020-02-12T08:43:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just teste
2020-02-12T08:43:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> tested*
2020-02-12T08:51:25 #kisslinux <icyphox> Hmmm. Okay, will do.
2020-02-12T09:11:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: so if you try magit, I can tell you how to grep through commits in repos and find old code that was deleted, a quickly pull it up / copy/paste it and work with it again-- and that is probably the feature I use often and am most thankful for. I don't even know how to do this without magit
2020-02-12T09:18:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> brb an hour or so
2020-02-12T09:29:49 #kisslinux <icyphox> dylanaraps: guidestones.txt was a great read. Good call in creating it.
2020-02-12T09:56:01 #kisslinux <aarng> adamantium, I think there is a config setting for primary selection
2020-02-12T09:56:47 #kisslinux <aarng> not at my pc right now so I cant cobfirm if the prumamry selection is working in my ff but I can tell you later
2020-02-12T09:57:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> aarng: thanks will look for that later
2020-02-12T09:57:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> aarng: lmk if u find it by chance tho
2020-02-12T09:57:40 #kisslinux <aarng> search for paste|middle|clip|copy in about:config
2020-02-12T09:58:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> clipboard.autocopy
2020-02-12T09:58:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> aarng: you da man
2020-02-12T09:58:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> i can't believe they disable it by default!
2020-02-12T09:58:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> wayland ..........
2020-02-12T09:58:45 #kisslinux <aarng> does it work?
2020-02-12T09:58:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> yes
2020-02-12T09:58:56 #kisslinux <aarng> nice
2020-02-12T09:59:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> maybe our build can reverse this
2020-02-12T09:59:17 #kisslinux <aarng> yeah its weird, I was about to say its because windows doesnt have it
2020-02-12T09:59:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> that too
2020-02-12T09:59:31 #kisslinux <aarng> but ff linux has linux specific options enables
2020-02-12T09:59:43 #kisslinux <aarng> enabled*
2020-02-12T09:59:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> pretty sure it's wayland fault
2020-02-12T09:59:52 #kisslinux <aarng> typing on phone :|
2020-02-12T10:00:04 #kisslinux <aarng> could very well be
2020-02-12T10:00:39 #kisslinux <aarng> there is more linux specific behaviour like if you double click the url bar, it will select eveything opposed to the word you double clicked
2020-02-12T10:01:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> man as long as i can highlight text to grab it without having to C-c, then I'm happy
2020-02-12T10:01:46 #kisslinux <aarng> yep
2020-02-12T10:02:18 #kisslinux <aarng> one big annoyance for me is that entering the browser kills the primary selection set by another program
2020-02-12T10:02:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> Anyone know how to get at the version file from the build file when writing a kiss build?
2020-02-12T10:02:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> read -r version < "$pkg/version" # not working
2020-02-12T10:03:52 #kisslinux <aarng> that should work, weird
2020-02-12T10:04:21 #kisslinux <aarng> Id do read -r version pkgversion <file
2020-02-12T10:04:29 #kisslinux <aarng> or something like that
2020-02-12T10:05:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> should, but doesn't
2020-02-12T10:05:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> cannot open /version: No such file
2020-02-12T10:06:16 #kisslinux <aarng> print the path and you will probably see why
2020-02-12T10:07:03 #kisslinux <aarng> or use set -x
2020-02-12T10:07:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> well $pkg is empty dude
2020-02-12T10:10:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> need to get at srcdir
2020-02-12T10:10:49 #kisslinux <adamantium> not $1, (pkgdir)
2020-02-12T10:11:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> ah i think it is $repo_dir
2020-02-12T10:12:17 #kisslinux <aarng> Not $PKG ?
2020-02-12T10:12:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> no
2020-02-12T10:12:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> $pkg is empty. is it $PKG ?
2020-02-12T10:13:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok, it is not $1, $pkg $PKG, $repo_dir
2020-02-12T10:13:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-12T10:14:01 #kisslinux <aarng> Checked the wrong line, PKG gets set for hooks
2020-02-12T10:14:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> src_dir perhaps
2020-02-12T10:14:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> i will find it
2020-02-12T10:14:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> :D
2020-02-12T10:14:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> wow nope
2020-02-12T10:17:31 #kisslinux <aarng> The build script doesnt get called with any special envvars, only with 1 parameter
2020-02-12T10:18:04 #kisslinux <aarng> I usually just run env in a scriot to find out about its environment
2020-02-12T10:18:22 #kisslinux <aarng> s/scriot/script/
2020-02-12T10:19:38 #kisslinux <aarng> adamantium: https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/blob/5d96b2871f1b67cb0dd149bf49be48c104754b0a/kiss#L587
2020-02-12T10:20:10 #kisslinux <adamantium> aarng: the var is called "_"
2020-02-12T10:20:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> $_
2020-02-12T10:20:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> lmao
2020-02-12T10:20:36 #kisslinux <aarng> wait wat?
2020-02-12T10:20:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> i used your env trick
2020-02-12T10:20:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> and there it was, the version
2020-02-12T10:20:53 #kisslinux <adamantium> _=8.6.10
2020-02-12T10:21:03 #kisslinux <aarng> interesting
2020-02-12T10:21:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> of course, right
2020-02-12T10:21:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylan ^_^
2020-02-12T10:21:27 #kisslinux <aarng> $_ is nornally the last arg of the last command in interavtive shells
2020-02-12T10:23:02 #kisslinux <aarng> not correcting all those typos, I make too many on this phone keyboard
2020-02-12T10:24:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> hmm
2020-02-12T10:25:01 #kisslinux <adamantium> pkgver=${_%.*} is what im using
2020-02-12T10:25:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylan will maybe find a better way
2020-02-12T10:25:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> i still need the srcdir so
2020-02-12T10:25:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> this isn't what I want anyways.
2020-02-12T10:27:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> I guess srcdir is PWD
2020-02-12T10:28:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> yes
2020-02-12T10:28:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Just hardcode the name
2020-02-12T10:29:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Though the package manager could send it over as $2
2020-02-12T10:29:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Don't use $_ either
2020-02-12T10:29:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It only works in interactive shells
2020-02-12T10:29:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Unless it is set by read
2020-02-12T10:29:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> In which case it is fine
2020-02-12T10:30:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (I mean: ': hello; echo "$_"') (Don't do this)
2020-02-12T10:30:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh yeah
2020-02-12T10:31:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: read -r version _ < "${0%/*}/version"
2020-02-12T10:31:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No need to hardcode it ;)
2020-02-12T10:31:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> i have pkgver=${_%.*}
2020-02-12T10:31:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> no bueno?
2020-02-12T10:31:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You could just set IFS=.
2020-02-12T10:32:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> IFS=. read -r ver1 _ < "${0%/*}/version"
2020-02-12T10:32:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Tada
2020-02-12T10:34:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: close , but that gives me in this case version "8" and I need "8.6" (the original value is 8.6.10)
2020-02-12T10:34:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> I tried adding IFS=. read -r ver1 _ < "${0%/.*}/version" and that gives nothing
2020-02-12T10:35:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> IFS=. read -r ver1 ver2 _ < "${0$/.*}/version"; echo "$ver1.$ver2"
2020-02-12T10:35:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That works too
2020-02-12T10:37:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> /home/foo/kiss/community/community/./tcl/build: 3: /home/foo/kiss/community/community/./tcl/build: Bad substitution
2020-02-12T10:37:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> not working
2020-02-12T10:37:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-02-12T10:39:23 #kisslinux <aarng> s/$/%/ ?
2020-02-12T10:39:57 #kisslinux <adamantium> this package sucks
2020-02-12T10:40:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> damn it
2020-02-12T10:40:11 #kisslinux <aarng> lol
2020-02-12T10:40:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://code.foxkit.us/adelie/packages/blob/master/system/tcl/APKBUILD
2020-02-12T10:40:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> im going off this
2020-02-12T10:41:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's the problem
2020-02-12T10:41:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> _major is only used in a single place
2020-02-12T10:41:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (ln -sf tclsh${_major} "${pkgdir}"/usr/bin/tclsh)
2020-02-12T10:41:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'm using the same sources too, as arch and this apkbuild, and the crap thing has no configure, but they dont use autoreconf either, so i dont know how they are configuring this
2020-02-12T10:42:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You could just do: ln -sf tclsh?.? "$1/usr/bin/tclsh"
2020-02-12T10:42:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Tada
2020-02-12T10:42:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's best not to base off of other distribution's packages full stop
2020-02-12T10:42:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> im not trying to
2020-02-12T10:42:49 #kisslinux <adamantium> i am going to PR expect package, but dont merge until we get tcl merged
2020-02-12T10:42:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> 'expect'
2020-02-12T10:43:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What's expect?
2020-02-12T10:43:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: https://termbin.com/2707 heres what i got so far with tcl
2020-02-12T10:43:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > ln -s /usr/bin/tclsh "$1/usr/bin/tclsh${pkgver}"
2020-02-12T10:43:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: expect allows you to automate command line interactive questions. like this:
2020-02-12T10:43:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is the reverse of what the APKBUILD does
2020-02-12T10:44:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > find "$1" -name '*Config.sh' | xargs sed -i -e "s#${$PWD}#/usr/src#"
2020-02-12T10:44:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: https://termbin.com/qphn
2020-02-12T10:44:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> ^^^ auto type my ssh key passwd in that example
2020-02-12T10:44:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can replace this with: find "$1" -name '*Config.sh' -exec sed -i "s#${$PWD}#/usr/src#" {} +
2020-02-12T10:45:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Gotcha
2020-02-12T10:46:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can remove that 'find' line entirely
2020-02-12T10:46:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-02-12T10:46:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's pointless reproducible builds stuff that we don't care about
2020-02-12T10:46:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> find line removed.
2020-02-12T10:46:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-02-12T10:46:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> ln -s /usr/bin/tclsh "$1/usr/bin/tclsh${pkgver}"
2020-02-12T10:47:01 #kisslinux <adamantium> ^^ i dont understand, this is not good?
2020-02-12T10:47:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The APKBUILD does the opposite
2020-02-12T10:47:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> tclsh$ver -> tclsh
2020-02-12T10:47:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not tclsh -> tclsh$ver
2020-02-12T10:47:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It can just be: ln -sf tclsh?.? "$1/usr/bin/tclsh"
2020-02-12T10:47:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can then drop the version
2020-02-12T10:48:01 #kisslinux <adamantium> ln -sf tclsh?.? "$1/usr/bin/tclsh" wow
2020-02-12T10:48:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> what does question marks do
2020-02-12T10:48:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> i see i had the logic backwards, though
2020-02-12T10:48:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Matches any single character
2020-02-12T10:48:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> any_char.any_char
2020-02-12T10:49:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> cool!
2020-02-12T10:49:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: /home/foo/kiss/community/community/./tcl/build: 3: /home/foo/kiss/community/community/./tcl/build: ./configure: not found
2020-02-12T10:49:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> So how do we configure this crud
2020-02-12T10:49:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Same sources?
2020-02-12T10:49:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> my source is same
2020-02-12T10:49:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/tcl/tcl8.6.10-src.tar.gz
2020-02-12T10:49:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> im baffled
2020-02-12T10:49:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-02-12T10:49:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Gotcha
2020-02-12T10:50:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> unix/configure 2020-02-12T10:50:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> --bla-bla
2020-02-12T10:50:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> They set: builddir="$srcdir"/tcl${pkgver}/unix
2020-02-12T10:50:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Some magic happens behind the scenes to cd there
2020-02-12T10:50:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is what I don't like about those package formats ;)
2020-02-12T10:50:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS hides nothing
2020-02-12T10:52:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> right
2020-02-12T10:52:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> so, autoreconf does not work
2020-02-12T10:52:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> what should i do
2020-02-12T10:53:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> autoreconf: 'configure.ac' or 'configure.in' is required
2020-02-12T10:53:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Is it needed?
2020-02-12T10:53:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If it is needed try: autoreconf -fis or autoreconf -i
2020-02-12T10:54:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> configure is in unix/ dir one level in
2020-02-12T10:54:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-02-12T10:54:49 #kisslinux <adamantium> we need to configure is all
2020-02-12T10:54:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> unix/configure 2020-02-12T10:54:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Either do: unix/configure
2020-02-12T10:54:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> perhaps?
2020-02-12T10:54:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> yes
2020-02-12T10:55:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's what I said
2020-02-12T10:55:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> :P
2020-02-12T10:55:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If that doesn't work: cd unix
2020-02-12T10:55:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> then ./configure
2020-02-12T10:55:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-12T10:55:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> oki
2020-02-12T10:55:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> mahalo
2020-02-12T10:58:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> alright we got it
2020-02-12T10:58:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> on the money
2020-02-12T10:59:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> that tcl had me pulling hair
2020-02-12T10:59:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> out
2020-02-12T11:00:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> remind me to skip adelie
2020-02-12T11:00:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;-)
2020-02-12T11:01:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merged
2020-02-12T11:02:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: can you pkg this up https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/perl-file-mimeinfo
2020-02-12T11:02:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> *lol*
2020-02-12T11:02:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > perl
2020-02-12T11:02:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> I want that pkg but so much deps
2020-02-12T11:02:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> :()
2020-02-12T11:03:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> Don't you know, that xdg-open falls back on perl-file-mimeinfo and you can get your file managers working from your window manager that way?
2020-02-12T11:03:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> it falls back on it, when a desktop environment is not detected.
2020-02-12T11:03:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> so it's actually handy to have.
2020-02-12T11:09:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can also just do this with the 'file' command with a fallback to file extension ;)
2020-02-12T11:09:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok lets see
2020-02-12T11:10:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: I use this https://termbin.com/c6wd
2020-02-12T11:10:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> I wonder if i can use your file method and modify this func
2020-02-12T11:11:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> it's simplest function in the world, it just runs xdg-open on a file.
2020-02-12T11:11:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> so I can s/xdg-open/file/g ?
2020-02-12T11:11:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> xdg-open is far from simple ;)
2020-02-12T11:11:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> no
2020-02-12T11:11:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'file' to get 'mime-type' then a case statement for each mime-type to define what to open
2020-02-12T11:12:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> See: https://github.com/dylanaraps/fff/issues/101#issue-407574112
2020-02-12T11:14:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> argh
2020-02-12T11:16:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> well its not bad
2020-02-12T11:16:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> lets try your script instead of xdg-open
2020-02-12T11:17:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> thanks man
2020-02-12T11:18:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> now i dont have to package perl for 2 hours
2020-02-12T11:19:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> lmao this works so great
2020-02-12T11:20:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> I   can live without the "XDG" standard
2020-02-12T11:20:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> Happy if I never edit another .desktop file again in life
2020-02-12T11:29:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: do you have a script handy for managing dotfiles so i can avoid packaging stow and its' perl deps?
2020-02-12T11:32:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> I could use kiss
2020-02-12T11:32:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> interesting......
2020-02-12T11:45:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/3q3g
2020-02-12T11:45:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> stow in pure bash
2020-02-12T11:45:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium:
2020-02-12T11:49:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> !!!!!!!!
2020-02-12T11:50:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: <3
2020-02-12T11:51:19 #kisslinux <aarng> I just have everything in .config which is a git repo
2020-02-12T11:51:45 #kisslinux <aarng> with the exception of 1 thing I care about: .ssh which I symlink manually
2020-02-12T11:53:55 #kisslinux <aarng> managed to move all other things to .config via environment variables or command alias using something like `alias "cmd=cmd -c ~/.config/cmd/conf"`
2020-02-12T11:54:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> the linker is better than the one i made some years back
2020-02-12T11:54:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> but it doesn't clean up my litter
2020-02-12T11:54:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;-()
2020-02-12T11:54:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-12T11:57:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> i really like the git bare method, described on hackernews
2020-02-12T11:58:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> symlink free dotfile management is pretty nice.
2020-02-12T11:59:09 #kisslinux <aarng> link?
2020-02-12T11:59:10 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11070797
2020-02-12T11:59:13 #kisslinux <aarng> lol
2020-02-12T11:59:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> but......
2020-02-12T11:59:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> I prefer having my git repo in a location thats not hidden away by an alias
2020-02-12T11:59:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> it throws off my tools
2020-02-12T12:00:19 #kisslinux <aarng> yeah
2020-02-12T12:01:02 #kisslinux <aarng> I will stick to my method of manually forcing programs to behave
2020-02-12T12:06:28 #kisslinux <fehawen> I wish I had the energy to migrate my dotfiles to git bare setup
2020-02-12T12:06:46 #kisslinux <fehawen> Instead I have a symlink nightmare...
2020-02-12T12:07:06 #kisslinux <fehawen> I'm not gonna lie, it's not pretty.
2020-02-12T12:08:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-12T12:08:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> Hey what's the harm in a broken symlink here or there
2020-02-12T12:09:52 #kisslinux <fehawen> I'm pretty good at not breaking them though, and making sure I clean up whenever an occasional restructuring takes place.
2020-02-12T12:10:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;p
2020-02-12T12:25:41 #kisslinux <fehawen> gnu-netcat vs openbsd-netcat, any opinions? (thought I'd install it)
2020-02-12T12:26:17 #kisslinux <fehawen> GNU would be my pick, I suppose
2020-02-12T12:26:49 #kisslinux <aarng> busybox nc not good enough?
2020-02-12T12:27:58 #kisslinux <aarng> I've always installed the openbsd netcat, but no technical reasons other than it's not gnu :>
2020-02-12T12:28:25 #kisslinux <fehawen> Uhm, yeah, so... I'm still on Arch o_O
2020-02-12T12:28:58 #kisslinux <fehawen> Installing nc gave me gnu openbsd to choose from
2020-02-12T12:28:58 #kisslinux <aarng> oh okey
2020-02-12T12:29:22 #kisslinux <fehawen> I'm just hanging aroung in this channel to feel cool
2020-02-12T12:29:27 #kisslinux <aarng> :D
2020-02-12T12:29:32 #kisslinux <aarng> nothing wrong with that
2020-02-12T12:29:48 #kisslinux <fehawen> No, not really. Just haven't gotten around to give KISS a try on my XPS yet
2020-02-12T12:30:01 #kisslinux <fehawen> Lol, no perhapos not
2020-02-12T12:30:44 #kisslinux <aarng> check dependencies and go with the simpler of the two I'd say
2020-02-12T12:31:12 #kisslinux <fehawen> And also, I've never configured a kernel before, so that'll probably take a few attempts
2020-02-12T12:31:42 #kisslinux <fehawen> Yeah just picked gnu, will have a look at them closer at some other point I guess
2020-02-12T12:32:20 #kisslinux <aarng> configuring your own kernel is a great learning experience
2020-02-12T12:32:32 #kisslinux <aarng> and not that hard if you base it off of a known working configuration
2020-02-12T12:32:42 #kisslinux <aarng> don't be like dylan and start with allnoconfig, lol
2020-02-12T12:33:33 #kisslinux <fehawen> hah, no I most likely will not
2020-02-12T12:34:00 #kisslinux <fehawen> the gentoo wiki had some good recommendations for my speific model
2020-02-12T12:34:15 #kisslinux <fehawen> that should be of some help to kick things off
2020-02-12T12:35:27 #kisslinux <aarng> yap
2020-02-12T12:35:38 #kisslinux <aarng> There's also `make modconfig`
2020-02-12T12:35:52 #kisslinux <aarng> Could generate a config on your current install
2020-02-12T12:36:07 #kisslinux <aarng> it detects all currently loaded modules
2020-02-12T12:36:51 #kisslinux <fehawen> yeah, so I've heard, but that feels almost too lazy :P
2020-02-12T12:37:15 #kisslinux <fehawen> but might acually resort to that anyway
2020-02-12T12:39:21 #kisslinux <aarng> aye
2020-02-12T12:43:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> keep forgetting to set my timezone
2020-02-12T13:01:11 #kisslinux <buffet> timezones are bloat 😔
2020-02-12T14:58:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will be a little inactive
2020-02-12T14:58:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Have family over
2020-02-12T14:58:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 2 days ish
2020-02-12T14:58:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will still be on
2020-02-12T14:58:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> dw
2020-02-12T15:53:58 #kisslinux <ShaCNy> o7
2020-02-12T16:19:46 #kisslinux <aarng> o/
2020-02-12T16:29:41 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> would `rsync -aHAX` taint the system?
2020-02-12T16:46:48 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> what if it is? would `kiss build` ensure integrity?
2020-02-12T17:31:01 #kisslinux <perish> HolA
2020-02-12T17:37:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> AloH
2020-02-12T17:37:46 #kisslinux <perish> How goes it?
2020-02-12T17:38:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> Just supremely bored at work
2020-02-12T17:38:39 #kisslinux <perish> F
2020-02-12T17:39:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> Yeah I'm basically a zombie
2020-02-12T17:40:07 #kisslinux <perish> I'm just drinking tea and returning to my packaging mindset
2020-02-12T17:40:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> See that's way preferable
2020-02-12T17:40:55 #kisslinux <perish> Accidentally dropped one of my fancy italian biscuits in it though.
2020-02-12T17:41:17 #kisslinux <perish> The biscuit is ruined and the tea is sadly overly sweet.
2020-02-12T17:44:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> :'(
2020-02-12T17:44:39 #kisslinux <perish> Surprisingly high quality tea, I got a bunch of teabags for £1.
2020-02-12T17:47:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> Ruined by the Italians
2020-02-12T17:47:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> Dastardly deeds
2020-02-12T17:49:37 #kisslinux <perish> The biscuits are good, nonetheless.
2020-02-12T17:49:45 #kisslinux <perish> Biscotti, they're called.
2020-02-12T17:50:18 #kisslinux <perish> Welcome back.
2020-02-12T17:50:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> Work wifi is spotty at my cubicle
2020-02-12T17:50:43 #kisslinux <perish> Ouch.
2020-02-12T17:50:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> Get the best reception in the handicap bathroom stall, ironically enough
2020-02-12T17:51:05 #kisslinux <perish> Haha
2020-02-12T17:54:45 #kisslinux <perish> Anyone know if there's an IRC channel for Alpine Linux?
2020-02-12T17:55:47 #kisslinux <perish> There is
2020-02-12T18:05:46 #kisslinux <perish> Found the tags I was after,
2020-02-12T18:06:07 #kisslinux <perish> --without-avahi, --without-libsystemd
2020-02-12T18:09:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> What're you building?
2020-02-12T18:09:32 #kisslinux <perish> OSTree
2020-02-12T18:09:52 #kisslinux <perish> I'll add in a --without-mkinitcpio
2020-02-12T18:09:58 #kisslinux <perish> just to be sure
2020-02-12T18:12:31 #kisslinux <perish> Thank fuck, json-glib has dependencies that I've already built
2020-02-12T18:12:56 #kisslinux <perish> It doesn't even require gobject
2020-02-12T18:15:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> How fortuitous
2020-02-12T18:15:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> It's like they knew
2020-02-12T18:16:13 #kisslinux <perish> lmao
2020-02-12T18:16:23 #kisslinux <perish> After this we're onto appstream and
2020-02-12T18:16:27 #kisslinux <perish> libseccecomp
2020-02-12T18:16:32 #kisslinux <perish> and then flatpak is done
2020-02-12T18:16:54 #kisslinux <perish> I'll organize everything, then make my commits
2020-02-12T18:52:10 #kisslinux <perish> Flatpak is now started!
2020-02-12T19:14:35 #kisslinux <perish> Everything is done
2020-02-12T19:14:38 #kisslinux <perish> thank fuck
2020-02-12T19:41:47 #kisslinux <perish> Alright, here's to hoping everything builds correctly
2020-02-12T20:32:20 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> I can login with partial password?...
2020-02-12T20:35:49 #kisslinux <aarng> M4R10zM0113R: busybox is using a weak cypher by default
2020-02-12T20:36:05 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> ah
2020-02-12T20:36:10 #kisslinux <aarng> there is an option for `passwd`
2020-02-12T20:36:14 #kisslinux <aarng> but it has no help
2020-02-12T20:40:51 #kisslinux <aarng> M4R10zM0113R: try `passwd -a ALG`
2020-02-12T20:41:03 #kisslinux <aarng> where ALG is one of: Possible choices are "d[es]", "m[d5]", "s[ha256]" or "sha512"
2020-02-12T20:41:30 #kisslinux <aarng> > default "des"
2020-02-12T20:45:39 #kisslinux <M4R10zM0113R> neat, thanks
2020-02-12T23:14:20 #kisslinux <fehawen> lear
2020-02-12T23:14:33 #kisslinux <fehawen> oops, can't clear here lol
2020-02-12T23:14:41 #kisslinux <fehawen> Gotta stop doing that...
2020-02-12T23:40:54 #kisslinux <illiliti> guys, i need your help. which is better way to store config file? Using cat EOF or printf grouping? example - https://termbin.com/8ew8
2020-02-12T23:53:20 #kisslinux <E5ten> I'd do it like this http://ix.io/2bzo
2020-02-12T23:54:00 #kisslinux <aarng> ^ this, except that I'd use the redirection on the same line as printf
2020-02-12T23:55:06 #kisslinux <E5ten> I think it's more clear to always put redirections at the end instead of putting them anywhere between the command and arguments
2020-02-12T23:55:19 #kisslinux <aarng> unindented heredoc is meh. It's ok when you intdent with tabs anyway and can use -EOF
2020-02-12T23:55:48 #kisslinux <E5ten> it still calls cat which feels totally unnecessary when printf is built in to most shells
2020-02-12T23:56:33 #kisslinux <aarng> It's a good tradeoff sometimes
2020-02-12T23:56:53 #kisslinux <aarng> saving all those backslashes and quotes
2020-02-12T23:58:09 #kisslinux <aarng> like, if you have a lot of lines, cat and -EOF can look cleaner imo
2020-02-12T23:58:25 #kisslinux <E5ten> fair enough
2020-02-12T23:58:33 #kisslinux <E5ten> I use 4 spaces so I'm kinda biased against it lol
2020-02-12T23:58:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> You can also run subshells and stuff in the heredoc, giving it more uses maybe
2020-02-12T23:59:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> Well maybe not more, but i think it looks cleaner with lots of code