2020-04-23T01:04:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hello everyone! I am trying to package mypaint and I am very close now I get a runtime error however though saying the namespace GTK was not found I have packaged pygobject and have gtk+3 installed I'm not sure where to go from here any help is appreciated.
2020-04-23T01:19:20 #kisslinux <claudia> muevoid: best would be to share your package
2020-04-23T01:21:07 #kisslinux <claudia> I can have a look later
2020-04-23T01:22:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk ill upload the repo with it here
2020-04-23T01:22:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> Im also opening up an issue on their repo but figured it might be worth it to ask for help here too
2020-04-23T01:23:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://github.com/muevoid/kiss-mue
2020-04-23T01:26:45 #kisslinux <claudia> I have made a chroot release of my port of kiss-32bit with generic flags. Build on the 32bit machine. Works so far on my 64bit machine. May somebody with a 32bit machine verfy if every thing is allright?
2020-04-23T01:26:55 #kisslinux <claudia> https://github.com/sdsddsd1/kiss-s3d4/releases/download/1/kiss-i586-chroot.tar.xz
2020-04-23T01:27:42 #kisslinux <claudia> muevoid: tip: you can add the topic "kiss-repo" to your repo
2020-04-23T01:28:00 #kisslinux <claudia> then it can be found here https://github.com/topics/kiss-repo
2020-04-23T01:28:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> Oh thanks
2020-04-23T01:28:43 #kisslinux <claudia> I have a look later than.
2020-04-23T01:30:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> kk no worries thanks!
2020-04-23T01:32:05 #kisslinux <claudia> good night
2020-04-23T02:31:15 #kisslinux <dilynm> dylan02: haven't had any other issues so far with the new kiss
2020-04-23T02:47:48 #kisslinux <dylan02> Nice, thanks
2020-04-23T02:47:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> How's performance for you?
2020-04-23T02:48:01 #kisslinux <dylan02> Notice anything?
2020-04-23T02:51:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does anyone here have experiencce with python related things?
2020-04-23T03:06:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> dylan02 is the way gtk+3 is packaged is there any reason why pygobject wouldn't be able to find the GTK namespace?
2020-04-23T03:08:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yeah
2020-04-23T03:08:36 #kisslinux <dylan02> We disable gobject introspection
2020-04-23T03:08:42 #kisslinux <dylan02> I think this is the issue
2020-04-23T03:13:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah yes that is the issue this requires it ah I see it in the build ok thanks ill fork it Ive been trying to figure this out for hours lol
2020-04-23T03:15:39 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'll do a build with it enabled to test
2020-04-23T03:17:05 #kisslinux <muevoid> Pango also needs to have introspection enabled I believe Im testing rn
2020-04-23T03:18:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> Unfortunately mypaint had quite a few dependencies however I think I can shave off two of them eventually.
2020-04-23T03:18:51 #kisslinux <dilynm> dylan02: performance has been great except for extraordinarily large files (I think?). If someone packages the kernel in a relatively minimal way (without the whole source tree), old kiss takes less than ten seconds and new kiss takes just over 30
2020-04-23T03:19:00 #kisslinux <dilynm> The manifest is over 11k lines
2020-04-23T03:19:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> With kiss can I specify a git branch when using git as a source
2020-04-23T03:23:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yes
2020-04-23T03:24:05 #kisslinux <dylan02> git+URL@branch
2020-04-23T03:24:07 #kisslinux <dylan02> or
2020-04-23T03:24:13 #kisslinux <dylan02> git+URL#commit-hash
2020-04-23T03:24:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk awesome thanks!
2020-04-23T03:24:46 #kisslinux <dylan02> dilynm: Good to know. I'll setup a kernel package and see what's going on.
2020-04-23T03:28:54 #kisslinux <dylan02> meuvoid: I've enabled introspection in our gtk+3
2020-04-23T03:29:06 #kisslinux <dylan02> There's no code/file size increase in the resulting package
2020-04-23T03:30:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk asesome however I'm pretty sure that it will fail to build if you have pango or atk installed. I had to enable introspection in both of those packages on my repo to get gtk+3 to build
2020-04-23T03:33:30 #kisslinux <dylan02> Ah
2020-04-23T03:33:48 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'll hold off on pushing for now then
2020-04-23T03:34:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> no worries
2020-04-23T03:41:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does anyone know if gtk-doc can be disabled for librsvg?
2020-04-23T03:45:33 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'll take a look
2020-04-23T03:46:43 #kisslinux <dylan02> https://github.com/GNOME/librsvg/search?q=enable_gtk_doc&unscoped_q=enable_gtk_doc
2020-04-23T03:47:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> Thanks
2020-04-23T03:47:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> I have to now compile rust the day is here. Librsvg now depends on rust so I have no choice
2020-04-23T03:49:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> How would I go about patching out intltool and gettext in a project?
2020-04-23T03:58:15 #kisslinux <dylan02> It depends on the build system
2020-04-23T03:58:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> ./configure
2020-04-23T03:59:54 #kisslinux <dylan02> Which package is this for?
2020-04-23T04:00:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> libmypaint
2020-04-23T04:04:25 #kisslinux <dylan02> > if test "x$enable_i18n" != "xno"; then
2020-04-23T04:04:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> meuvoid:
2020-04-23T04:04:34 #kisslinux <dylan02> --enable=i18n=no
2020-04-23T04:04:35 #kisslinux <dylan02> That should do it
2020-04-23T04:04:48 #kisslinux <muevoid> In the build file? or elsewhere?
2020-04-23T04:05:55 #kisslinux <dylan02> In the build file
2020-04-23T04:05:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> For ./configure
2020-04-23T04:06:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk thanks
2020-04-23T04:52:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does anyone here have azpainter downloaded?
2020-04-23T04:55:00 #kisslinux <dylan02> I do not
2020-04-23T04:55:01 #kisslinux <dylan02> brb
2020-04-23T04:57:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> For some reason no settings will save in azpainer
2020-04-23T04:57:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> azpainter*
2020-04-23T04:59:12 #kisslinux <dylan03> Any messages in the terminal?
2020-04-23T04:59:19 #kisslinux <dilynm> ^
2020-04-23T04:59:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> Nope
2020-04-23T05:00:26 #kisslinux <dylan03> Is there a debug/verbose flag you could use?
2020-04-23T05:00:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ill check
2020-04-23T05:01:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Doesnt seem like it
2020-04-23T05:04:30 #kisslinux <dylan03> https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter/blob/3418cd5bff0ece979d606dbf72fd753deda209e8/src/other/BrushList.c#L1493
2020-04-23T05:04:44 #kisslinux <dylan03> This seems like the function(?)
2020-04-23T05:05:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah that looks like it would be what saves the brushes
2020-04-23T05:05:34 #kisslinux <dylan03> > #define CONFIG_FILENAME_BRUSH        "brush-2.dat"
2020-04-23T05:05:41 #kisslinux <dylan03> It uses brush-2.dat
2020-04-23T05:07:11 #kisslinux <dylan03> Also a brush dir for users https://github.com/Symbian9/azpainter/blob/2564ee559d3aa9a1351f56c6b4c7395c419d288b/src/configfile.c#L426
2020-04-23T05:08:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I know where the data is stored however when I edit it in the program and quit it doesnt save anything I did to the configs. I opened up an issue on their github however it couldn't be reproduced for them on debian.
2020-04-23T05:09:19 #kisslinux <dylan03> Ah
2020-04-23T05:09:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> I would test it on another kiss machine but I dont have one at the moment
2020-04-23T05:10:16 #kisslinux <dylan03> I'm building it now
2020-04-23T05:10:20 #kisslinux <dylan03> Easiest steps to reproduce?
2020-04-23T05:10:49 #kisslinux <dylan03> Man, this is a nice program
2020-04-23T05:10:59 #kisslinux <dylan03> Opens quick and took 2 seconds to compile
2020-04-23T05:11:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> I have it packaged in my repo it doesn't have many dependencies I just compiled and installed it and if I launch and for example try to change the theme and quit and restart it doesnt save anythiing
2020-04-23T05:11:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> And yeah thats why I gave up on mypaint and switched to this :)
2020-04-23T05:20:26 #kisslinux <dylan05> I can't reproduce
2020-04-23T05:20:31 #kisslinux <dylan05> Are you using sowm by any chance?
2020-04-23T05:20:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> Oof
2020-04-23T05:20:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> I am
2020-04-23T05:20:39 #kisslinux <dylan05> Ah
2020-04-23T05:20:42 #kisslinux <dylan05> I have a solution then
2020-04-23T05:20:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> kk
2020-04-23T05:21:09 #kisslinux <dylan05> This patch: https://github.com/dylanaraps/sowm/pull/60
2020-04-23T05:21:15 #kisslinux <dylan05> I'll merge this into master
2020-04-23T05:21:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Oooo that makes sense I forgot that sowm kills windows
2020-04-23T05:22:09 #kisslinux <dilynm> Oh my God that might be exactly what I need for Falkon
2020-04-23T05:22:44 #kisslinux <dylan05> Basically, it's killing azpainter before it's able to clean up after itself
2020-04-23T05:22:50 #kisslinux <dylan05> Which is the intention...
2020-04-23T05:23:00 #kisslinux <dylan05> I guess the usual way makes a saner default though
2020-04-23T05:25:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> that patch made it where I can no longer close windows am I missing something?
2020-04-23T05:26:09 #kisslinux <dylan05> Oh
2020-04-23T05:26:13 #kisslinux <dylan05> Patch must be broken
2020-04-23T05:26:16 #kisslinux <dylan05> I'll fix it
2020-04-23T05:26:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk no worries thanks
2020-04-23T05:32:18 #kisslinux <dylan05> brb
2020-04-23T05:44:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> Im assuming for now I should package the new sowm in my own repo?
2020-04-23T05:47:19 #kisslinux <dylan02> For now, yeah
2020-04-23T05:47:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> kk
2020-04-23T05:47:26 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'm still working on fixing window close
2020-04-23T05:47:30 #kisslinux <dylan02> There's more steps it turns out
2020-04-23T05:47:38 #kisslinux <dylan02> I need a fallback to just killing the window
2020-04-23T05:47:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gotcha
2020-04-23T05:52:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> brb
2020-04-23T05:58:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is there a way to make the kiss package manager only cache source code and not binaries?
2020-04-23T06:37:23 #kisslinux <dilynm> KISS_DEBUG=1 probably does it
2020-04-23T07:08:06 #kisslinux <dylan04> OK
2020-04-23T07:08:19 #kisslinux <dylan04> So. The normal kill behavior brings with it a bug.
2020-04-23T07:09:40 #kisslinux <dylan04> Sending a kill event _may_ take time. When this happens the window fails to close and instead becomes a black square you cannot remove.
2020-04-23T07:10:02 #kisslinux <dylan04> My guess is that this happens due to focus events happening quicker than the kill though I'm probably wrong
2020-04-23T07:10:10 #kisslinux <dylan04> We may see a sowm V2 in xcb I think
2020-04-23T07:10:19 #kisslinux <dylan04> I've had enough of xlib
2020-04-23T07:13:44 #kisslinux <muevoid> That would be sick sowm in xcb
2020-04-23T07:21:04 #kisslinux <dzove855> dylan04: that would be great.
2020-04-23T09:13:14 #kisslinux <dylan04> https://termbin.com/ipnd
2020-04-23T09:13:17 #kisslinux <dylan04> I have flatpak
2020-04-23T09:13:34 #kisslinux <dylan04> Without polkit, mozjs and a few others
2020-04-23T09:13:42 #kisslinux <dylan04> Still a ton of dependencies though
2020-04-23T09:15:52 #kisslinux <dzove855> flatpak? somethin like snap ?
2020-04-23T09:16:45 #kisslinux <dylan04> Yeah
2020-04-23T09:16:53 #kisslinux <dylan04> snap is Ubuntu and flatpak is Red Hat
2020-04-23T09:19:22 #kisslinux <dylan04> 6 dependencies for us
2020-04-23T09:19:24 #kisslinux <dylan04> not too bad
2020-04-23T09:19:30 #kisslinux <dylan04> Actually, it's maybe 9 or 10
2020-04-23T09:20:59 #kisslinux <dylan04> gimp through flatpak is a 1GB download (though some parts may be shared between other flatpaks?)
2020-04-23T09:22:50 #kisslinux <dzove855> well, snap was supposed to be used on every linux, as a package/app manager generique when the project started haha
2020-04-23T09:24:50 #kisslinux <dylan04> There's also appimages
2020-04-23T09:26:00 #kisslinux <dzove855> here we go, already 3 softwares haha
2020-04-23T09:27:07 #kisslinux <dylan04> This is especially handy for us for things like chromium, gimp, krita, etc, etc.
2020-04-23T09:27:24 #kisslinux <dylan04> Though I'm not exactly happy with the dependency situation for flatpak
2020-04-23T09:27:27 #kisslinux <k1ss> dylan04: so will flatpak be added?
2020-04-23T09:27:34 #kisslinux <dylan04> Depends
2020-04-23T09:27:43 #kisslinux <dylan04> I'm testing it now
2020-04-23T09:27:51 #kisslinux <dzove855> yeaah, it avoids managing those kind of software
2020-04-23T09:28:09 #kisslinux <dylan04> Also allows users to run steam, etc easily
2020-04-23T09:30:00 #kisslinux <dylan04> Nothing beats something packaged properly though
2020-04-23T09:32:16 #kisslinux <dylan04> (Appimages don't work under musl at all fyi)
2020-04-23T09:32:32 #kisslinux <dylan04> (Which is a shame as it's the smallest of the 3 iirc)
2020-04-23T09:33:12 #kisslinux <dzove855> hmmm possible to write a patch?
2020-04-23T09:33:40 #kisslinux <dylan04> I doubt it's that easy
2020-04-23T09:33:51 #kisslinux <dylan04> There's an issue or two on their tracker about it
2020-04-23T09:37:01 #kisslinux <dylan04> So, gimp installed. When trying to run it: https://termbin.com/9lps
2020-04-23T09:56:45 #kisslinux <dylan04> brb
2020-04-23T10:08:02 #kisslinux <dylan06> Got flatpak working.
2020-04-23T10:10:03 #kisslinux <humaid_8> how did you do it?
2020-04-23T10:11:01 #kisslinux <dylan06> Lots of packaging
2020-04-23T10:12:06 #kisslinux <humaid_8> would be nice to kiss b flatpak
2020-04-23T10:12:11 #kisslinux <dylan06> Yup
2020-04-23T10:14:25 #kisslinux <konimex> nice
2020-04-23T10:14:29 #kisslinux <konimex> how many packages needed to build flatpak?
2020-04-23T10:15:06 #kisslinux <k1ss> konimex: any news on wyverkiss?
2020-04-23T10:15:51 #kisslinux <konimex> k1ss: no remarkable news, since we follow KISS, any news noteworthy to kiss will be noteworthy to wyverkiss
2020-04-23T10:16:09 #kisslinux <dylan06> Here's everything needed (new stuff): flatpak, appstream-glib, fuse2, gpgme, json-glib, libassuan, ostree.
2020-04-23T10:16:20 #kisslinux <konimex> fuse v2? huh
2020-04-23T10:17:12 #kisslinux <dylan06> Also needs (from repos + community): gdk-pixbuf, libarchive, libcap, libsoup, libxml2, python, glib, cmake, meson and gperf.
2020-04-23T10:17:17 #kisslinux <dylan06> Then any dependencies these need.
2020-04-23T10:17:28 #kisslinux <konimex> damn
2020-04-23T10:17:49 #kisslinux <konimex> if any GPG-related dep can be removed then it'll be good for wyver*
2020-04-23T10:18:03 #kisslinux <konimex> but that looks impossible
2020-04-23T10:18:15 #kisslinux <dylan06> libassuan + gpgme
2020-04-23T10:18:22 #kisslinux <dylan06> I believe
2020-04-23T10:18:27 #kisslinux <konimex> aye
2020-04-23T10:18:43 #kisslinux <dylan06> https://github.com/dylanaraps/kiss-flatpak
2020-04-23T10:18:58 #kisslinux <dylan06> I had to make some changes to libsoup and a couple of other community packages
2020-04-23T10:19:02 #kisslinux <dylan06> Keep that in mind
2020-04-23T10:19:09 #kisslinux <humaid_8> Was about to ask. thanks
2020-04-23T10:19:21 #kisslinux <dylan06> Ah
2020-04-23T10:19:34 #kisslinux <dylan06> Just 'glib-networking' added to libsoup depends (for TLS support)
2020-04-23T10:20:07 #kisslinux <dylan06> merakor: Can you make this change? I'm sure it's also needed for webkit2gtk + friends (but happens behind the scenes).
2020-04-23T10:20:11 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah sure
2020-04-23T10:20:17 #kisslinux <merakor> I was about to say the same
2020-04-23T10:20:37 #kisslinux <merakor> I also have gpgme on my own repositories, I can maintain it on community if you would want to
2020-04-23T10:21:19 #kisslinux <dylan06> Nice
2020-04-23T10:21:31 #kisslinux <dylan06> I still need to finalize the dependencies (remove whatever else I can)
2020-04-23T10:21:45 #kisslinux <merakor> https://github.com/CarbsLinux/repository/tree/master/community/gpgme
2020-04-23T10:22:25 #kisslinux <merakor> Alright, I'll make a pull for libsoup
2020-04-23T10:24:39 #kisslinux <dylan06> Nice, thanks
2020-04-23T10:28:23 #kisslinux <merakor> Okay, I opened a PR
2020-04-23T10:29:04 #kisslinux <dylan06> Thanks
2020-04-23T10:39:33 #kisslinux <dylan02> Added instructions: https://github.com/dylanaraps/kiss-flatpak
2020-04-23T10:44:28 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> why flatpak?
2020-04-23T10:44:52 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> i mean, any reason for flatpak against appimage or snap?
2020-04-23T10:45:00 #kisslinux <konimex> snap needs systemd
2020-04-23T10:45:02 #kisslinux <konimex> enough said
2020-04-23T10:45:06 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> ok
2020-04-23T10:45:08 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> enough
2020-04-23T10:45:33 #kisslinux <konimex> appimage doesn't work in musl according to dylan iirc
2020-04-23T10:45:50 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> this is great, with this i can install libreoffice
2020-04-23T10:46:30 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> i don't know flatpak, but this build's from source?
2020-04-23T10:48:51 #kisslinux <konimex> flatpak itself can be built from source, but it basically installs prebuilt binaries
2020-04-23T10:53:44 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> well, it's something
2020-04-23T10:55:30 #kisslinux <dylan02> It enables you to run glibc only software as well as the hard to package stuff.
2020-04-23T10:56:00 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'm tempted to statically compile flatpak and have everything be a make dep
2020-04-23T10:56:22 #kisslinux <humaid> dylan02:  version file not fiund
2020-04-23T10:56:28 #kisslinux <humaid> found*
2020-04-23T10:56:53 #kisslinux <dylan02> Show me your KISS_PATH
2020-04-23T10:57:04 #kisslinux <dylan02> Adding it should be like Community
2020-04-23T11:01:39 #kisslinux <rirc39411> hola!
2020-04-23T11:02:11 #kisslinux <humaid_3> dylan02 KISS_PATH=/var/db/kiss/repo/core:/var/db/kiss/repo/extra:/var/db/kiss/repo/xorg:/var/db/kiss/repo/community/community:/var/db/kiss/repo/community/kiss-games:/var/db/kiss/repo/community/kiss-flatpak/
2020-04-23T11:02:22 #kisslinux <humaid_3> from laptop
2020-04-23T11:02:33 #kisslinux <claudia02> dylan02: there is a util-linux dependency for appstream-glib
2020-04-23T11:02:48 #kisslinux <dylan02> claudia02: Are you sure? I don't have util-linux
2020-04-23T11:02:59 #kisslinux <dylan02> Send me the output?
2020-04-23T11:03:15 #kisslinux <dylan02> > /var/db/kiss/repo/community/kiss-flatpak/
2020-04-23T11:03:15 #kisslinux <claudia02> I havent it either, but without it was complaining about missing "uuid"
2020-04-23T11:03:18 #kisslinux <claudia02> now its building
2020-04-23T11:03:23 #kisslinux <dylan02> Should be: /var/db/kiss/repo/community/kiss-flatpak/flatpak
2020-04-23T11:03:40 #kisslinux <dylan02> Though I'm unsure of your repo layout (What's community doing there?)
2020-04-23T11:03:47 #kisslinux <merakor> https://termbin.com/1dhk1
2020-04-23T11:04:41 #kisslinux <humaid_3> everything in one directory. don't know whats best.
2020-04-23T11:04:50 #kisslinux <dylan02> merakor: Thanks
2020-04-23T11:05:28 #kisslinux <dylan02> Ah. I have libuuid.a from my version of e2fsprogs
2020-04-23T11:05:56 #kisslinux <konimex> > /var/db/kiss/repo/community/community
2020-04-23T11:06:00 #kisslinux <konimex> I don't know, should this happen?
2020-04-23T11:06:17 #kisslinux <dylan02> I don't think it should
2020-04-23T11:06:21 #kisslinux <konimex> $ROOTFS/var/db/kiss/repo is it's own git repo
2020-04-23T11:06:34 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yup
2020-04-23T11:06:38 #kisslinux <claudia02> dylan02: https://termbin.com/85m6
2020-04-23T11:06:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> claudia02: Thanks. I can reproduce now too.
2020-04-23T11:07:10 #kisslinux <claudia02> fine
2020-04-23T11:07:21 #kisslinux <humaid_3> its building know thanks
2020-04-23T11:07:52 #kisslinux <humaid_3> it would be good to document good practices regarding KISS_PATH
2020-04-23T11:08:04 #kisslinux <dylan02> I will
2020-04-23T11:11:32 #kisslinux <merakor> dylan02: By the way, your license year is set as 2016-2019 on the flatpak repository
2020-04-23T11:13:10 #kisslinux <dylan02> Thanks
2020-04-23T11:14:04 #kisslinux <dylan02> Dropped libuuid dependency altogether with a patch.
2020-04-23T11:23:24 #kisslinux <merakor> Am i the only one having this docbook issue?
2020-04-23T11:23:29 #kisslinux <dylan02> I think so.
2020-04-23T11:23:31 #kisslinux <dylan02> Looking into it
2020-04-23T11:25:38 #kisslinux <dylan02> Try the latest commit (just pushed)
2020-04-23T11:27:16 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, it works now!
2020-04-23T11:27:29 #kisslinux <dylan02> Awesome
2020-04-23T11:27:41 #kisslinux <merakor> I don't understand why it happens though. I don't have anything related to it.
2020-04-23T11:27:54 #kisslinux <merakor> Do you have libXslt?
2020-04-23T11:29:25 #kisslinux <dylan02> I do not
2020-04-23T11:30:17 #kisslinux <merakor> Okay, that's the reason.
2020-04-23T11:30:25 #kisslinux <merakor> I tried it without it
2020-04-23T11:30:40 #kisslinux <merakor> ostree fails with libXslt when -Ddoc=false
2020-04-23T11:30:48 #kisslinux <merakor> with same docbook issues
2020-04-23T11:31:03 #kisslinux <merakor> I removed it, not it works
2020-04-23T11:31:25 #kisslinux <merakor> sorry, not ostree
2020-04-23T11:31:33 #kisslinux <merakor> appstream-glib
2020-04-23T11:31:40 #kisslinux <merakor> but ostree has the same issue
2020-04-23T11:33:37 #kisslinux <dylan02> Thanks
2020-04-23T11:34:43 #kisslinux <merakor> Sure!
2020-04-23T11:38:29 #kisslinux <dylan02> Fixed
2020-04-23T11:38:31 #kisslinux <dylan02> merakor:
2020-04-23T11:39:19 #kisslinux <merakor> Nice, thanks
2020-04-23T11:39:53 #kisslinux <merakor> It works
2020-04-23T11:40:26 #kisslinux <dylan02> :D
2020-04-23T11:46:42 #kisslinux <dylan02> I can drop fuse from flatpak fyi
2020-04-23T11:48:45 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh I forgot I compiled the kernel without user namespace support :D
2020-04-23T12:07:10 #kisslinux <dylan02> OK
2020-04-23T12:07:16 #kisslinux <dylan02> fuse2 is no longer needed
2020-04-23T12:23:13 #kisslinux <ax> morning
2020-04-23T12:23:24 #kisslinux <ax> dylan02: dylan how should i deal with the issue of checksums request?  I noticed a discrepancy too, after changing the source kiss c I had changed checksums but then finally gave me back the original checksums.  This is the reason that convinced me that perhaps he was right.  sha256 package.tar.gz actually corresponds to the first check
2020-04-23T12:24:26 #kisslinux <dylan02> Hm
2020-04-23T12:24:31 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'm not sure I understand fully
2020-04-23T12:25:28 #kisslinux <ax> not me either because i had problems with kiss c
2020-04-23T12:26:06 #kisslinux <ax> the first link / blob returned a kiss c, after changing to / RAW kiss c it changed my control
2020-04-23T12:26:46 #kisslinux <ax> in the end the user complained then I redone everything from 0 and actually the check with kiss c gave me the same initial checksums
2020-04-23T12:27:11 #kisslinux <dylan02> Ah
2020-04-23T12:27:25 #kisslinux <dylan02> Can you find a different source?
2020-04-23T12:27:48 #kisslinux <ax> therefore I probably assume that the last commit I sent you is correct.  Please can you verify by downloading the source from the link and applying sha256
2020-04-23T12:28:24 #kisslinux <dylan02> Sure
2020-04-23T12:28:41 #kisslinux <ax> https://github.com/aicsx/kiss-repo/raw/master/giblib/giblib-1.2.4.tar.gz
2020-04-23T12:28:47 #kisslinux <ax> download and apply checksums
2020-04-23T12:28:50 #kisslinux <ax> please
2020-04-23T12:35:08 #kisslinux <dylan03> ax: Wait, why is the source yours and hosted on git
2020-04-23T12:35:17 #kisslinux <dylan03> on github?*
2020-04-23T13:13:05 #kisslinux <ax> dylan03: I wrote it to you in the initial PR, because the developer link is from 10 years ago and is no longer operational
2020-04-23T13:13:49 #kisslinux <dylan03> Right
2020-04-23T13:13:56 #kisslinux <ax> this library was developed in original to the last release you see, the next ones that are now found are fork of the original project.
2020-04-23T13:14:18 #kisslinux <konimex> github error?
2020-04-23T13:14:21 #kisslinux <ax> in fact even if you see version 1.3.x it is not the original library.
2020-04-23T13:14:34 #kisslinux <konimex> returns 504 for me
2020-04-23T13:15:28 #kisslinux <ax> konimex: raw work for download not for view
2020-04-23T13:15:41 #kisslinux <konimex> what?
2020-04-23T13:15:52 #kisslinux <konimex> i'm just asking if github is down
2020-04-23T13:16:00 #kisslinux <ax> haaaa
2020-04-23T13:16:15 #kisslinux <konimex> anyway, http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/project/slackbuildsdirectlinks/giblib/giblib-1.2.4.tar.gz < just use this source, both alpine and arch uses it
2020-04-23T13:16:22 #kisslinux <ax> I thought you were referring to the link
2020-04-23T13:16:28 #kisslinux <konimex> don't know about void since I can't access github for some reason
2020-04-23T13:16:54 #kisslinux <ax> yes it slackbuild page ... its my source but hosted on github personal page
2020-04-23T13:21:04 #kisslinux <ax> konimex: github prpblem yes... its down
2020-04-23T13:21:33 #kisslinux <ax> https://www.githubstatus.com/
2020-04-23T13:22:51 #kisslinux <illiliti> every fucking day this happens
2020-04-23T13:23:04 #kisslinux <illiliti> just look at Past Incidents
2020-04-23T13:24:19 #kisslinux <dylan03> konimex: That link works fine. ax: Why don't we use it? It may solve our checksum issue as well.
2020-04-23T13:25:39 #kisslinux <dylan03> libcap dependency removed from flatpak.
2020-04-23T13:25:58 #kisslinux <onodera> does anyone here use flatpak?
2020-04-23T13:26:07 #kisslinux <dylan03> I packaged it today
2020-04-23T13:26:12 #kisslinux <dylan03> https://github.com/dylanaraps/kiss-flatpak
2020-04-23T13:26:16 #kisslinux <onodera> ah cool
2020-04-23T13:26:19 #kisslinux <onodera> for what purpose?
2020-04-23T13:26:43 #kisslinux <onodera> runnnig shitware? i never really delved into flatpak before so I don't know the ins and outs
2020-04-23T13:26:54 #kisslinux <onodera> ah seems like github is down again
2020-04-23T13:27:09 #kisslinux <dylan03> To allow users to run software which is either proprietary, hard to package or just horrible.
2020-04-23T13:27:22 #kisslinux <onodera> i wanted to run minecrfat though flatpak but I have no idea if i need glibc or stuff like that
2020-04-23T13:27:37 #kisslinux <onodera> flatpack just contains everything, even glibc?
2020-04-23T13:27:42 #kisslinux <konimex> to run minecraft don't one just need java?
2020-04-23T13:27:42 #kisslinux <dylan03> Just 'flatpak install --user gimp'
2020-04-23T13:27:43 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yeah
2020-04-23T13:27:58 #kisslinux <konimex> but yeah flatpak has runtimes of glibc and other-wares packed
2020-04-23T13:28:04 #kisslinux <onodera> konimex: the new luancher is closed source c++ compiled against glibc
2020-04-23T13:28:10 #kisslinux <dylan03> lol...
2020-04-23T13:28:20 #kisslinux <onodera> ah that's cool, this seems better than a whole chroot probably
2020-04-23T13:28:25 #kisslinux <dylan03> It's easy
2020-04-23T13:28:38 #kisslinux <konimex> which launcher? t-launcher? I used to play minecraft from that (no mojang account unfortunately)
2020-04-23T13:28:46 #kisslinux <onodera> the official one
2020-04-23T13:28:48 #kisslinux <onodera> since mid 2019
2020-04-23T13:29:05 #kisslinux <dylan03> It'll finally answer the question "Can I run steam, spotify, discord, whatever on kiss?"
2020-04-23T13:29:07 #kisslinux <konimex> i see
2020-04-23T13:29:16 #kisslinux <onodera> dylan03: did you look into docker?
2020-04-23T13:29:20 #kisslinux <dylan03> Turns out that people are too lazy to setup a chroot
2020-04-23T13:29:31 #kisslinux <onodera> it seems nice as well, but it needs specific kernel configuration and a user and stuff
2020-04-23T13:29:42 #kisslinux <dylan03> flatpak or docker?
2020-04-23T13:29:47 #kisslinux <onodera> so will you keep using the chroot or flatpak?
2020-04-23T13:29:54 #kisslinux <onodera> dylan03: docker needs these things
2020-04-23T13:30:07 #kisslinux <dylan03> I don't use a chroot regularly
2020-04-23T13:30:20 #kisslinux <dylan03> I used one once(?) to play some CSS with my brother
2020-04-23T13:30:26 #kisslinux <dylan03> I will use flatpak though
2020-04-23T13:30:35 #kisslinux <onodera> will you be moving the flatpack pkg to community anytime soon?
2020-04-23T13:30:41 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yeah
2020-04-23T13:30:52 #kisslinux <onodera> alright this is great
2020-04-23T13:30:58 #kisslinux <dylan03> Once it's been tested by more users and I'm happy with it
2020-04-23T13:31:05 #kisslinux <onodera> maintaining two distros, one in a chroot, would probably kinda be a pain
2020-04-23T13:31:34 #kisslinux <dylan03> I've so far removed (from flatpak's deps): polkit, mozjs, fuse2, libuuid and libcap
2020-04-23T13:31:49 #kisslinux <onodera> using arch after such a long time I felt how restritive it is
2020-04-23T13:31:56 #kisslinux <onodera> "sorry you can't run this command as root"
2020-04-23T13:32:01 #kisslinux <dylan03> Really?
2020-04-23T13:32:09 #kisslinux <dylan03> God
2020-04-23T13:32:23 #kisslinux <onodera> pacman must run as user and they don't have a flag to disable it
2020-04-23T13:32:36 #kisslinux <dylan03> flatpak just needs "user namespaces" enabled in the kernel
2020-04-23T13:32:38 #kisslinux <dylan03> fyi
2020-04-23T13:32:43 #kisslinux <dylan03> Ah
2020-04-23T13:32:46 #kisslinux <onodera> alright
2020-04-23T13:32:47 #kisslinux <dylan03> That's right (about pacman)
2020-04-23T13:33:01 #kisslinux <dylan03> kiss was the same for a period iirc
2020-04-23T13:33:05 #kisslinux <dylan03> Now it lets you do whatever you want
2020-04-23T13:33:09 #kisslinux <onodera> hm I don't like it
2020-04-23T13:33:15 #kisslinux <dylan03> Neither
2020-04-23T13:33:17 #kisslinux <onodera> I just want to decide what to do myself
2020-04-23T13:33:24 #kisslinux <dylan03> I don't like being told what I can/can't do
2020-04-23T13:33:27 #kisslinux <dylan03> Exactly
2020-04-23T13:33:40 #kisslinux <onodera> like a warning is nice or something but disabling it goes a bit far
2020-04-23T13:34:11 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yeah
2020-04-23T13:34:20 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> dylan03: what's the most decent smaller modern browser that doesn't pull either gtk or qt crap, or at least not a lot of it?
2020-04-23T13:34:34 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i can't wait for ff or chromium compile :/
2020-04-23T13:34:43 #kisslinux <dylan03> TwistedFate: Welcome to flatpak
2020-04-23T13:34:49 #kisslinux <dylan03> Any browser you like is a command away
2020-04-23T13:34:55 #kisslinux <dylan03> No building needed
2020-04-23T13:35:14 #kisslinux <onodera> we're really the flatpak distro now?
2020-04-23T13:35:15 #kisslinux <onodera> lol
2020-04-23T13:35:17 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> eww no
2020-04-23T13:35:24 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> it needs to be compiled
2020-04-23T13:35:41 #kisslinux <dylan03> flatpak would be fine for a program or two
2020-04-23T13:35:43 #kisslinux <dylan03> it is compiled
2020-04-23T13:35:54 #kisslinux <dylan03> It's just a glibc binary running in its own sandboxed environment
2020-04-23T13:35:55 #kisslinux <onodera> I use my browser pobably 90% of the time so I am willing to spend some time and deps on it
2020-04-23T13:36:10 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yeah
2020-04-23T13:36:19 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> ok, flatpak and such aside, any other browser i could just compile and install?
2020-04-23T13:36:33 #kisslinux <dilynm> Surf is probably the fastest?
2020-04-23T13:36:40 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> with a gui
2020-04-23T13:36:48 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> a modern-like browser
2020-04-23T13:36:53 #kisslinux <onodera> tbh firefox is probably the most minimal, that fits all my needs
2020-04-23T13:36:54 #kisslinux <dylan03> There's firefox (and firefox-bin), webkit2gtk browsers (surf, etc), qt5-webengine browsers (falkon, etc) and finally dillo, netsurf, lynx, w3m, etc.
2020-04-23T13:37:12 #kisslinux <onodera> you might want to look into seamonkey
2020-04-23T13:37:14 #kisslinux <dylan03> Though you'll have to package dillo and friends I believe
2020-04-23T13:37:34 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> does falkon pull in a lot?
2020-04-23T13:37:44 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> it's probably noticeably smaller than firefox
2020-04-23T13:37:49 #kisslinux <dilynm> Five qt5 packages
2020-04-23T13:37:53 #kisslinux <dylan03> qt5-webengine takes a lot longer to build though
2020-04-23T13:38:11 #kisslinux <dylan03> and it _can_ fail for no reason
2020-04-23T13:38:20 #kisslinux <dylan03> I recommend ccache be used for the build
2020-04-23T13:38:29 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> so i'm left with firefox and crappy rust then :/
2020-04-23T13:38:38 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i hate their decision to make rust a requirement
2020-04-23T13:38:52 #kisslinux <onodera> i kinda get that they want to use a "modern" language
2020-04-23T13:39:22 #kisslinux <onodera> just build firefox before you go to bed
2020-04-23T13:39:28 #kisslinux <onodera> wake up with a fresh package
2020-04-23T13:39:34 #kisslinux <onodera> that sounds a bit wrong
2020-04-23T13:39:42 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> :')
2020-04-23T13:40:13 #kisslinux <dylan03> I do it when I leave the house
2020-04-23T13:43:00 #kisslinux <illiliti> TwistedFate: try palemoon. it doesn't require rust AFAIK
2020-04-23T13:43:55 #kisslinux <onodera> TwistedFate: https://www.uninformativ.de/git/lariza/file/README.html
2020-04-23T13:44:03 #kisslinux <onodera> this guy has a lot of cool projects by the way
2020-04-23T13:44:05 #kisslinux <onodera> all very kiss
2020-04-23T13:44:46 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> huh, i haven't heard of it before
2020-04-23T13:45:05 #kisslinux <onodera> only those who tried out every browser on the planet heard of it
2020-04-23T13:45:15 #kisslinux <onodera> https://www.uninformativ.de/git/katriawm/file/README.html
2020-04-23T13:45:18 #kisslinux <onodera> his wm is also cool
2020-04-23T13:46:16 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> onodera: post some rice desu :3
2020-04-23T13:47:18 #kisslinux <onodera> https://github.com/onodera-punpun/lariza
2020-04-23T13:47:30 #kisslinux <onodera> a long time ago i forked it and added mouse gestures and smooth scrolling
2020-04-23T13:47:36 #kisslinux <onodera> it is very easy to hack
2020-04-23T13:47:44 #kisslinux <onodera> note, this fork is very out of date
2020-04-23T13:47:52 #kisslinux <onodera> it even 404's it seems lmao
2020-04-23T13:47:59 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> 404 ye
2020-04-23T13:51:42 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> welp, firefox is compiling
2020-04-23T13:52:50 #kisslinux <onodera> i might be porting lariza later
2020-04-23T13:52:59 #kisslinux <onodera> checking if it got any better recently
2020-04-23T13:53:19 #kisslinux <onodera> anyways even these 'minimal' browsers just use webkit
2020-04-23T13:57:07 #kisslinux <dylan03> :(
2020-04-23T13:57:20 #kisslinux <dylan03> Except for dillo and netsurf
2020-04-23T13:57:24 #kisslinux <dylan03> Any others?
2020-04-23T13:58:27 #kisslinux <onodera> netsurf is pretty cool
2020-04-23T13:58:31 #kisslinux <onodera> but unusable for me
2020-04-23T13:58:37 #kisslinux <onodera> i don't know of any others
2020-04-23T13:58:39 #kisslinux <humaid> what about chromium?
2020-04-23T14:00:28 #kisslinux <onodera> TwistedFate: btw I have a port of firefox 75 if you are into that
2020-04-23T14:00:34 #kisslinux <onodera> gotta create a PR still
2020-04-23T14:00:42 #kisslinux <onodera> probably wait til 75.1 releases
2020-04-23T14:00:48 #kisslinux <dylan03> Then I have to rename ours to -esr
2020-04-23T14:00:58 #kisslinux <onodera> also I want to get LTO working
2020-04-23T14:01:18 #kisslinux <dylan03> LTO should be setup and working now (gcc side)
2020-04-23T14:01:46 #kisslinux <onodera> dylan03: how will that work, the package manager will update to 75
2020-04-23T14:01:52 #kisslinux <onodera> for people now running ESR
2020-04-23T14:01:56 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yeah
2020-04-23T14:02:16 #kisslinux <dylan03> I'll announce it beforehand
2020-04-23T14:02:16 #kisslinux <onodera> maybe a pre-install with a sleep
2020-04-23T14:02:31 #kisslinux <onodera> my system is fully lto
2020-04-23T14:02:43 #kisslinux <onodera> but firefox needs weird linker settings a stuff
2020-04-23T14:02:46 #kisslinux <dylan03> Nice
2020-04-23T14:02:58 #kisslinux <onodera> loike it doesn't just accept some extra cflags
2020-04-23T14:03:52 #kisslinux <dylan03> I wonder how long firefox would take to link with lto
2020-04-23T14:04:25 #kisslinux <onodera> btw what is the use of ffat-lto-objects
2020-04-23T14:04:45 #kisslinux <onodera> I don't really get it, gentoo-lto doesn't ever add it, but the kiss-lto project does to some liberaries
2020-04-23T14:06:14 #kisslinux <dylan03> I guess Gentoo sets '-fno-fat-lto-objects'?
2020-04-23T14:06:50 #kisslinux <onodera> let me check
2020-04-23T14:07:14 #kisslinux <dylan03> fat objects are slower to compile and larger than slim ones
2020-04-23T14:07:21 #kisslinux <onodera> now I have on one side this nice placebo feeling of having LTOized my system, but on the other hand this uneasy feeling that I might be using some wrong CFLAGs
2020-04-23T14:08:08 #kisslinux <dylan03> Heh
2020-04-23T14:08:13 #kisslinux <dylan03> > The difference between fat and non-fat object files is that fat object files contains both intermediate language as well as the normally compiled code. At linktime, if you invoke compiler without -flto, fat objects will be handled as normal object files (and LTO information discarded), while slim objects will inovke LTO optimizers because there is no way to handle them without it.
2020-04-23T14:08:33 #kisslinux <onodera> https://github.com/InBetweenNames/gentooLTO/blob/master/sys-config/ltoize/files/package.cflags/ltoworkarounds.conf
2020-04-23T14:08:45 #kisslinux <onodera> ah I was wrong, it does add fat objects to some packages
2020-04-23T14:09:19 #kisslinux <konimex> man I fucking hate github's intransparent status page
2020-04-23T14:09:34 #kisslinux <konimex> "yeah, issue fixed" what's the issue?
2020-04-23T14:09:52 #kisslinux <onodera> but for example the kiss lto repo adds fat objects to busybox, but gentoo doesn't
2020-04-23T14:10:01 #kisslinux <onodera> can't find any info anwyhere else if this is required
2020-04-23T14:10:04 #kisslinux <merakor> Some packages in flatpak require pulseaudio ugh
2020-04-23T14:10:14 #kisslinux <onodera> merakor: apulse
2020-04-23T14:10:51 #kisslinux <merakor> What do you mean?
2020-04-23T14:11:04 #kisslinux <dylan03> merakor: Really? Even with --user?
2020-04-23T14:11:23 #kisslinux <dylan03> Send logs
2020-04-23T14:11:23 #kisslinux <onodera> https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse
2020-04-23T14:11:36 #kisslinux <onodera> can't you run it through apulse
2020-04-23T14:12:38 #kisslinux <merakor> Thandylan03: https://termbin.com/4fg8
2020-04-23T14:12:46 #kisslinux <merakor> onodera: thanks! will try now
2020-04-23T14:13:23 #kisslinux <dilynm> I thought the point of fkatpack was to avoid dependencies
2020-04-23T14:13:29 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh I forgot to delete text I have written before :D
2020-04-23T14:13:45 #kisslinux <dylan03> dilynm: libreoffice :^)
2020-04-23T14:14:29 #kisslinux <merakor> I don't use libreoffice, i was just testing it and firefox
2020-04-23T14:14:34 #kisslinux <merakor> firefox has the same issue
2020-04-23T14:14:47 #kisslinux <dilynm> Ah yes of course. The famous music player, libreoffice
2020-04-23T14:15:05 #kisslinux <dylan03> I love how flatpak creates ~/.var
2020-04-23T14:15:22 #kisslinux <dylan03> ...
2020-04-23T14:15:32 #kisslinux <merakor> dylan03: https://termbin.com/jgdc
2020-04-23T14:15:41 #kisslinux <merakor> this is the output from firefox
2020-04-23T14:15:56 #kisslinux <dylan03> I can fix that
2020-04-23T14:15:58 #kisslinux <dylan03> 2 secs
2020-04-23T14:16:07 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah libreoffice needing pulseaudio is one of the dumbest things ever
2020-04-23T14:16:35 #kisslinux <dylan03> Pushed
2020-04-23T14:16:50 #kisslinux <dilynm> It's beyond dumb
2020-04-23T14:16:53 #kisslinux <merakor> I mean I listen to music from emacs not libreoffice duh
2020-04-23T14:17:18 #kisslinux <merakor> *I don't actually do that*
2020-04-23T14:17:36 #kisslinux <dilynm> Emacs can probably do captchas and doesn't require pulseaudio
2020-04-23T14:17:40 #kisslinux <dilynm> Come on, libreoffice
2020-04-23T14:19:30 #kisslinux <dylan03> Seeing as flatpak defaults to --system (root) and the point is here... to not run things as root, shall I patch it to default to --user?
2020-04-23T14:20:11 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh okay so the issue was dbus not pulseaudio
2020-04-23T14:20:42 #kisslinux <merakor> It worked for firefox but not libreoffice
2020-04-23T14:21:05 #kisslinux <dylan03> It's a dbus proxy which is supposed to communicate with a system dbus
2020-04-23T14:21:11 #kisslinux <dylan03> Send a log
2020-04-23T14:21:16 #kisslinux <dylan03> https://termbin.com/s96gm
2020-04-23T14:21:19 #kisslinux <merakor> https://termbin.com/kz09
2020-04-23T14:21:22 #kisslinux <dylan03> This is what I see on youtube
2020-04-23T14:22:01 #kisslinux <dylan03> merakor: Tried with apulse?
2020-04-23T14:22:28 #kisslinux <dylan03> It'll 100% be a requirement for things using it
2020-04-23T14:25:27 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah I tried it, no difference
2020-04-23T14:26:06 #kisslinux <merakor> Still says 'Could not find pulseaudio socket'
2020-04-23T14:28:01 #kisslinux <dylan03> Try googling it
2020-04-23T14:28:11 #kisslinux <dylan03> This probably affects all alsa users
2020-04-23T14:30:43 #kisslinux <dylan03> https://github.com/flathub/com.valvesoftware.Steam/issues/20
2020-04-23T14:31:08 #kisslinux <dylan03> oops
2020-04-23T14:32:52 #kisslinux <onodera> such a great invention, pulse
2020-04-23T14:33:17 #kisslinux <onodera> why didn't they just copy the audio stuff from BSD, they seem to have things working alright
2020-04-23T14:34:01 #kisslinux <merakor> Because freedesktop loves inventing terrible things
2020-04-23T14:35:31 #kisslinux <dylan03> merakor: Do you have: ALSA_CONFIG_PATH set?
2020-04-23T14:36:26 #kisslinux <merakor> No, should it point to my asoundrc?
2020-04-23T14:36:59 #kisslinux <dylan03> No
2020-04-23T14:37:03 #kisslinux <dylan03> It's good that it's unset
2020-04-23T14:37:17 #kisslinux <dylan03> Try this: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/$(id -u) flatpak bla
2020-04-23T14:39:07 #kisslinux <merakor> It outputs the same things
2020-04-23T14:44:04 #kisslinux <dylan03> Try that with apulse
2020-04-23T14:44:32 #kisslinux <dylan03> Sounds like flatpak is big on pulse
2020-04-23T14:44:33 #kisslinux <dylan03> https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/issues/27#issuecomment-233057825
2020-04-23T14:44:44 #kisslinux <dylan03> > Given the above, you can get audio sandboxing by:
2020-04-23T14:44:47 #kisslinux <dylan03> > Blocking ALSA access to apps by blocking /dev/snd/*
2020-04-23T14:44:50 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> man, and i _finally_ started to get my head around alsa
2020-04-23T14:45:12 #kisslinux <dylan03> Could this simply be a flatpax sandbox config change?
2020-04-23T14:45:22 #kisslinux <dylan03> ie, unblock /dev/snd
2020-04-23T14:48:32 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> onodera: well ff 75 is compiling right now
2020-04-23T14:54:41 #kisslinux <merakor> I tried with both
2020-04-23T14:55:16 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah flatpak actively enourages pulseaudio
2020-04-23T14:55:21 #kisslinux <merakor> encourages*
2020-04-23T14:56:27 #kisslinux <onodera> more like fatpack then xDDD
2020-04-23T14:56:40 #kisslinux <dylan03> Some things should work despite pulse though
2020-04-23T14:56:47 #kisslinux <dylan03> Try chromium
2020-04-23T14:57:32 #kisslinux <dylan03> Firefox official builds have no alsa (all they did was add --disable-alsa though everyone thinks the code is gone)
2020-04-23T14:57:56 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> USE="alsa" <3
2020-04-23T14:58:18 #kisslinux <dylan03> Them removing it is weird too as firefox doesn't link to alsa anyway (nor to pulse)
2020-04-23T14:58:47 #kisslinux <onodera> dylan03: which is weird man, I am SURE that they actually removed the alsa code a few versions ago
2020-04-23T14:59:02 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> btw onodera, you never sent those rice pics :3
2020-04-23T14:59:46 #kisslinux <dylan03> They're actually refusing bug reports for ALSA now
2020-04-23T15:00:11 #kisslinux <dylan03> Even from someone who wanted to work on one "No you can't"
2020-04-23T15:00:37 #kisslinux <dylan03> I'll try and find the bugzilla issue I'm talking about
2020-04-23T15:00:43 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> time to fork firefox :')
2020-04-23T15:01:12 #kisslinux <onodera> https://i.redd.it/puxe57tylhs41.png TwistedFate
2020-04-23T15:01:33 #kisslinux <merakor> redhat, mozilla, and freedesktop :)
2020-04-23T15:01:40 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> onodera: that looks comfy desu
2020-04-23T15:01:51 #kisslinux <merakor> They are my least favourite community/companies
2020-04-23T15:02:43 #kisslinux <dilynm> I think you might just be better off forking Firefox circa 2009 tbh
2020-04-23T15:02:52 #kisslinux <dilynm> That codebase is probably so spaghetti it's not even funny
2020-04-23T15:03:02 #kisslinux <merakor> Fork netscape :P
2020-04-23T15:03:03 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> firefox became shit years ago
2020-04-23T15:03:10 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> some would say even since 3.6
2020-04-23T15:03:18 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> they just keep adding more and more crap and botnet
2020-04-23T15:03:29 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> and it's clear it's because of the money
2020-04-23T15:03:37 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> free internet my ass
2020-04-23T15:03:58 #kisslinux <merakor> Mozilla is a really shady company anyway
2020-04-23T15:04:48 #kisslinux <merakor> They talk a lot about privacy without actually having privacy respecting defaults
2020-04-23T15:04:52 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> yea
2020-04-23T15:05:28 #kisslinux <merakor> The whole privacy thing is a marketing scheme against chromium
2020-04-23T15:05:30 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i don't think there's a single good browser left today
2020-04-23T15:05:45 #kisslinux <dylan03> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1218235#c6
2020-04-23T15:05:53 #kisslinux <dylan03> Last paragraph
2020-04-23T15:06:15 #kisslinux <dylan03> Unrelated to what I'm looking for but interesting
2020-04-23T15:06:18 #kisslinux <merakor> If google wasn't trying their hardest to make non-chromium non-firefox browsers obsolete
2020-04-23T15:06:49 #kisslinux <dylan03> > "Hmm...we don't support ALSA anymore. On the linux platforms, officially we only support PulseAudio now."
2020-04-23T15:06:52 #kisslinux <dilynm> Just wget your webpages and print them off like stallman does
2020-04-23T15:06:56 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i think they only way we could have a good browser, or software in general, is if people like those from openbsd made it. they don't take shit from anybody, they want security and privacy without compromise
2020-04-23T15:07:00 #kisslinux <dylan03> Ink is expensive man
2020-04-23T15:07:55 #kisslinux <dylan03> "I'm putting this in the parking lot. Supporting ALSA is not on the roadmap."
2020-04-23T15:07:59 #kisslinux <dylan03> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221579#c1
2020-04-23T15:08:48 #kisslinux <dylan03> This is the original thread about --disable-alsa being added: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661
2020-04-23T15:08:50 #kisslinux <merakor> I am pretty happy on Surf.
2020-04-23T15:09:02 #kisslinux <merakor> Google websites do not accept me though.
2020-04-23T15:09:14 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> surf.. that's the command line browser, right?
2020-04-23T15:09:24 #kisslinux <merakor> No no webkitgtk browser.
2020-04-23T15:09:41 #kisslinux <merakor> https://surf.suckless.org
2020-04-23T15:09:46 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> oh God, it's from those suckless guys
2020-04-23T15:09:50 #kisslinux <dylan03> merakor: I got around this with falkon by setting a firefox useragent
2020-04-23T15:10:45 #kisslinux <merakor> I am trying to degoogle, s�o that wasn't an issue to me, but that's good to keep in mind
2020-04-23T15:11:34 #kisslinux <merakor> Surf can set user agent as well
2020-04-23T15:12:01 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> hmmm
2020-04-23T15:12:02 #kisslinux <dylan03> Gotcha
2020-04-23T15:12:04 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> surf doesn't seem so bad
2020-04-23T15:12:17 #kisslinux <merakor> I love it way too much
2020-04-23T15:13:02 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i don't think i could be without ublock origin and umatrix though
2020-04-23T15:13:17 #kisslinux <merakor> I adblock from /etc/hosts
2020-04-23T15:13:47 #kisslinux <merakor> I think there was a patch for proper adblocking, but I am not sure.
2020-04-23T15:14:06 #kisslinux <merakor> I find /etc/hosts way to be pretty sufficient
2020-04-23T15:14:57 #kisslinux <dylan03> surf + mpv for video sounds nice
2020-04-23T15:15:04 #kisslinux <dylan03> tabbed is a must I presume?
2020-04-23T15:15:22 #kisslinux <lieu> dylan03: rsync-less kiss release when? :D
2020-04-23T15:15:54 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> that is so stupid -- they had a solution that would have made it more or less transparent to firefox what was being used and just ignored it?
2020-04-23T15:16:09 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yes
2020-04-23T15:17:34 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> so what you're saying is we just need to figure out a way to rephrase the problem so they think it's solving something else lol
2020-04-23T15:18:08 #kisslinux <dylan03> Well, we're all going to be forced to move to pipewire in the future
2020-04-23T15:18:18 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah I use tabbed as well, but it's a preference really. I have used without it for over a year.
2020-04-23T15:18:28 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> @TwistedFate I think pihole can help a little bit with that, but yeah uMatrix is too easy to configure.  I use Decentraleyes too
2020-04-23T15:18:45 #kisslinux <dylan03> lol. This isn't what I wanted https://flathub.org/apps/details/net.sourceforge.chromium-bsu
2020-04-23T15:18:56 #kisslinux <dylan03> That's the only result
2020-04-23T15:21:33 #kisslinux <dylan03> lieu: Either tonight or tomorrow (probably). Needs another look over
2020-04-23T15:22:19 #kisslinux <humaid>        No chromium in flathub. Right?
2020-04-23T15:22:31 #kisslinux <dylan03> Nope
2020-04-23T15:22:48 #kisslinux <dylan03> Any other repositories for flatpaks?
2020-04-23T15:22:55 #kisslinux <lieu> dylan03: not the chromium you want, but the chromium you need lol
2020-04-23T15:23:11 #kisslinux <humaid> That's why I use nix
2020-04-23T15:23:23 #kisslinux <humaid> Haha
2020-04-23T15:23:49 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> what do you mean pipewire?
2020-04-23T15:24:02 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> those freedesktop/poettering scumbags just won't quit
2020-04-23T15:24:50 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> ominous_anonymou: yea i heard about it, i have been wanting to build a pfsense router for a long time though
2020-04-23T15:25:07 #kisslinux <claudia02> merakor: there is https://github.com/jun7/wyebadblock for adblocking, but I could get it to build
2020-04-23T15:26:42 #kisslinux <claudia02> * could not
2020-04-23T15:28:13 #kisslinux <dylan03> So, there's no chromium but spotify is on there :|
2020-04-23T15:30:07 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://github.com/mariospr/chromium-browser-flatpak this seems a little... iffy
2020-04-23T15:30:26 #kisslinux <dylan03> I found this too
2020-04-23T15:30:34 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> and 4 years old, never mind
2020-04-23T15:43:43 #kisslinux <dylan03> merakor: I may have a fix for the audio
2020-04-23T15:43:47 #kisslinux <dylan03> At least partly
2020-04-23T16:11:18 #kisslinux <dylan03> well
2020-04-23T16:11:21 #kisslinux <dylan03> pulse was wrong
2020-04-23T16:12:17 #kisslinux <dylan03> https://termbin.com/5ipod
2020-04-23T16:12:22 #kisslinux <dylan03> I fixed the errors
2020-04-23T16:12:31 #kisslinux <dylan03> libreoffice still doesn't open though
2020-04-23T16:28:24 #kisslinux <dilynm> Smh who needs libreoffice anyways
2020-04-23T16:28:38 #kisslinux <dilynm> Just unzip your .doc files and edit the xml directly
2020-04-23T16:29:00 #kisslinux <onodera> do i need to run flatpak as root?
2020-04-23T16:29:27 #kisslinux <konimex> no
2020-04-23T16:29:42 #kisslinux <onodera> im getting a SIGSEGV
2020-04-23T16:30:03 #kisslinux <onodera> strace puts out `mkdirat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/var", 0777)     = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)`
2020-04-23T16:33:48 #kisslinux <dylan03> ls -ld /usr/var/
2020-04-23T16:33:48 #kisslinux <onodera> running with user I'm getting a `error: Unable to load summary from remote flathub: GPG: gpgme_ctx_set_engine_info: GPGME: Invalid crypto engine`
2020-04-23T16:34:06 #kisslinux <dylan03> Send a full log
2020-04-23T16:34:17 #kisslinux <dylan03> Also, you should be using '--user'
2020-04-23T16:34:23 #kisslinux <dylan03> (If you aren't already)
2020-04-23T16:34:45 #kisslinux <onodera> eh i dont have /usr/var.........
2020-04-23T16:35:04 #kisslinux <dylan03> Neither
2020-04-23T16:35:07 #kisslinux <onodera> is this file normally a symlink dylan03 ?
2020-04-23T16:35:12 #kisslinux <onodera> ah
2020-04-23T16:36:10 #kisslinux <onodera> is /usr/var a symlink to /var?
2020-04-23T16:36:24 #kisslinux <onodera> if so, I suspect the package manager removed it
2020-04-23T16:38:03 #kisslinux <dylan03>  /usr/var isn't in our baselayout
2020-04-23T16:38:12 #kisslinux <onodera> ah
2020-04-23T16:38:19 #kisslinux <dylan03> It's not meant to exist
2020-04-23T16:38:29 #kisslinux <onodera> ls -ld /usr/var/
2020-04-23T16:38:29 #kisslinux <onodera> ls: /usr/var/: No such file or directory
2020-04-23T16:38:37 #kisslinux <onodera> because you asked me for this output?
2020-04-23T16:39:06 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yeah, I checked our baselayout after I sent that
2020-04-23T16:39:42 #kisslinux <onodera> ah alright lol
2020-04-23T16:40:07 #kisslinux <onodera> anyways running as --user returns that invalid crypto engine I posted before..
2020-04-23T16:40:23 #kisslinux <onodera> seems to be a gpgme thing
2020-04-23T16:40:30 #kisslinux <dylan03> Right
2020-04-23T16:40:41 #kisslinux <dylan03> Do you have gnupg1 or 2 installed?
2020-04-23T16:40:42 #kisslinux <onodera> let me recompile gpg without flags
2020-04-23T16:41:00 #kisslinux <onodera> neither dylan03
2020-04-23T16:41:49 #kisslinux <konimex> no, /usr/var shouldn't exist
2020-04-23T16:43:37 #kisslinux <dylan03> Trying installing gnupg1 or gnupg2
2020-04-23T16:43:51 #kisslinux <dylan03> gnupg1 has no dependencies (really)
2020-04-23T16:43:58 #kisslinux <dylan03> gnupg2 is well
2020-04-23T16:44:00 #kisslinux <dylan03> ..
2020-04-23T16:45:50 #kisslinux <onodera> thanks
2020-04-23T16:45:57 #kisslinux <onodera> gnupg1 fixed it
2020-04-23T16:46:10 #kisslinux <onodera> this might need to be a flatpak dep
2020-04-23T16:46:26 #kisslinux <dylan03> lol...
2020-04-23T16:46:40 #kisslinux <dylan03> I thought the purpose of the gpgme library was to avoid needing the client???
2020-04-23T16:49:19 #kisslinux <onodera> alright this is awesome, got minecraft running
2020-04-23T16:50:55 #kisslinux <onodera> only no audio, I suspect a pulse thing
2020-04-23T16:51:52 #kisslinux <dylan03> I'm working on it
2020-04-23T16:54:26 #kisslinux <onodera> thanks :)
2020-04-23T17:04:16 #kisslinux <onodera> a different question, many packages (gtk*, freebidi, pkgconf) fail with this error when building with LTO:
2020-04-23T17:04:21 #kisslinux <onodera> ../libtool: eval: line 1: syntax error: unexpected "|"
2020-04-23T17:04:59 #kisslinux <onodera> it seems that when using LTO there is some unset pipe. These packages don't have LTO-disable flags on gentoo so I suspect it might be a kiss thing
2020-04-23T17:07:37 #kisslinux <dylan03> Interesting
2020-04-23T17:07:47 #kisslinux <dylan03> Send me your CFLAGS and I'll see if I can reproduce
2020-04-23T17:09:10 #kisslinux <onodera> * AR, NM and RANLIB set to gcc-* for LTO to work
2020-04-23T17:09:22 #kisslinux <onodera> * CFLAGS "-O3 -pipe -march=native -mtune=native -fdevirtualize-at-ltrans -fipa-pta -fno-semantic-interposition -flto=$n"
2020-04-23T17:09:32 #kisslinux <onodera> * CXXFLAGS the same
2020-04-23T17:09:42 #kisslinux <onodera> * LDFLAGS "-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed $CFLAGS"
2020-04-23T17:10:18 #kisslinux <onodera> these are the exact same flags gentoo-lto uses btw
2020-04-23T17:11:22 #kisslinux <dylan03> I can reproduce, yeah
2020-04-23T17:12:02 #kisslinux <onodera> I think it generates something like this `echo something |  | sed 'something'
2020-04-23T17:14:52 #kisslinux <dylan03> ooo
2020-04-23T17:15:03 #kisslinux <dylan03> This isn't CFLAGS/LDFLAGS related
2020-04-23T17:15:12 #kisslinux <dylan03> I think it's AR, NM or RANLIB related
2020-04-23T17:15:20 #kisslinux <onodera> ah interesting
2020-04-23T17:15:22 #kisslinux <dylan03> I could reproduce with just these three set
2020-04-23T17:16:07 #kisslinux <onodera> really, because I always have these 3 set, and can fix the build when removing the lto flag most of the time
2020-04-23T17:16:24 #kisslinux <dylan03> Use hooks
2020-04-23T17:16:27 #kisslinux <dylan03> see KISS_HOOK
2020-04-23T17:16:47 #kisslinux <dylan03> Mine for example https://termbin.com/8g8lj
2020-04-23T17:17:44 #kisslinux <onodera> I am using them
2020-04-23T17:17:53 #kisslinux <dylan03> Oh
2020-04-23T17:18:02 #kisslinux <onodera> to disable flags for some packages that are broken with lto
2020-04-23T17:18:21 #kisslinux <onodera> however I am always building with these gcc-ar and such, and all packages build just fine
2020-04-23T17:18:30 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yeah, I'd like to fix this
2020-04-23T17:19:57 #kisslinux <dylan03> Ah
2020-04-23T17:20:06 #kisslinux <dylan03> The one way I can reproduce is actually a typo
2020-04-23T17:20:14 #kisslinux <dylan03> I did: NM=gcc=nm
2020-04-23T17:20:21 #kisslinux <dylan03> Which gave me the same error you had
2020-04-23T17:20:48 #kisslinux <onodera> https://camille.sh/jkft.txt
2020-04-23T17:21:29 #kisslinux <dylan03> Nice
2020-04-23T17:21:44 #kisslinux <onodera> the packages with "eval problem?" are the ones that don't build because of it
2020-04-23T17:26:51 #kisslinux <dylan03> Gotcha
2020-04-23T17:34:02 #kisslinux <dylan03> onodera: It could be our binutils which is lacking lto support
2020-04-23T17:36:21 #kisslinux <onodera> lemme try
2020-04-23T17:40:27 #kisslinux <onodera> dylan03: that fixes it
2020-04-23T17:40:43 #kisslinux <onodera> is there any reason to build without it by default? after all this is a source distro
2020-04-23T17:40:53 #kisslinux <onodera> same for the gold linker, I think firefox lto requires it
2020-04-23T17:41:50 #kisslinux <dylan03> Nice
2020-04-23T17:41:53 #kisslinux <dylan03> Will do
2020-04-23T17:42:23 #kisslinux <dylan03> What's the configure flag if you don't mind?
2020-04-23T17:43:33 #kisslinux <onodera>  --enable-lto for lto
2020-04-23T17:43:46 #kisslinux <onodera> --enable-gold and (i think) --enable-ld=default for gold
2020-04-23T17:44:05 #kisslinux <onodera> arch and lfs also use `--enable-plugins`, no idea what that does though
2020-04-23T17:45:29 #kisslinux <dylan03> Thanks
2020-04-23T17:52:21 #kisslinux <dylan03> OK
2020-04-23T17:53:00 #kisslinux <dylan03> Added --enable-lto, --enable-gold, --enable-ld (was needed) and --enable-plugins (needed for gold).
2020-04-23T17:54:52 #kisslinux <onodera> thanks man
2020-04-23T17:57:53 #kisslinux <dylan03> I still get the libtool error even with these flags
2020-04-23T17:59:53 #kisslinux <onodera> I installed the binutils with the lto flag, afterwards I unset AR, NM, etc.
2020-04-23T18:00:02 #kisslinux <onodera> so it just uses the binutils one
2020-04-23T18:00:20 #kisslinux <onodera> rather than the gcc ones, then everything just compiles fine on my end
2020-04-23T18:00:41 #kisslinux <dylan03> So, just CFLAGS/LDFLAGS set
2020-04-23T18:00:56 #kisslinux <onodera> yes
2020-04-23T18:02:08 #kisslinux <dylan03> Still erroring
2020-04-23T18:03:49 #kisslinux <onodera> eh really
2020-04-23T18:03:53 #kisslinux <dylan03> https://termbin.com/cnjs
2020-04-23T18:03:55 #kisslinux <onodera> let me print things to be sure
2020-04-23T18:04:01 #kisslinux <dylan03> That's my env right now
2020-04-23T18:04:09 #kisslinux <dylan03> CXXFLAGS match CFLAGS
2020-04-23T18:04:57 #kisslinux <onodera> wait a sec..
2020-04-23T18:05:58 #kisslinux <onodera> yeah im getting the same error actually, i have no idea why i didnt before
2020-04-23T18:06:20 #kisslinux <onodera> maybe i actually disabled the lto cflag accidentally
2020-04-23T18:08:52 #kisslinux <dylan03> Remember also that we're dealing with musl instead of glibc, slight chance that musl may change the result
2020-04-23T18:10:20 #kisslinux <onodera> https://debbugs.gnu.org/db/21/21411.html
2020-04-23T18:11:01 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yeah
2020-04-23T18:11:06 #kisslinux <onodera> how does this bug tracker work man, cana't find any relpies
2020-04-23T18:11:07 #kisslinux <dylan03> I saw that earlier
2020-04-23T18:11:39 #kisslinux <dylan03> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=21411
2020-04-23T18:11:49 #kisslinux <onodera> I think it is busybox
2020-04-23T18:12:04 #kisslinux <onodera> http://tinycorelinux.net/6.x/x86/tcz/src/avahi/compile_avahi
2020-04-23T18:12:16 #kisslinux <onodera> see this dump for example, tinycorelinux uses busybox and glibc
2020-04-23T18:12:33 #kisslinux <dylan03> OK
2020-04-23T18:13:32 #kisslinux <onodera> very great when google only shows this exact error 3 times lol
2020-04-23T18:14:02 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yup
2020-04-23T18:14:06 #kisslinux <dylan03> I maybe found it
2020-04-23T18:14:23 #kisslinux <konimex> I wonder how lld handles lto
2020-04-23T18:14:36 #kisslinux <konimex> looks like a lot of shenanigans needed from the binutils side
2020-04-23T18:15:20 #kisslinux <konimex> also heads up: rust 1.43.0 released
2020-04-23T18:15:39 #kisslinux <dylan03> oof
2020-04-23T18:17:33 #kisslinux <dylan03> Uh... We're dealing with shell code like this: https://termbin.com/1vwj
2020-04-23T18:21:03 #kisslinux <dilynm> Lol
2020-04-23T18:22:29 #kisslinux <onodera> that;s a beauty
2020-04-23T18:23:02 #kisslinux <onodera> i think these scripts are kinda auto generated
2020-04-23T18:23:25 #kisslinux <onodera> and for some reason the flto flag results in an empty pipe
2020-04-23T18:23:31 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yeah
2020-04-23T18:23:35 #kisslinux <dylan03> I'm looking for it
2020-04-23T18:23:47 #kisslinux <dylan03> It's a mess of word splitting / glob expansion though
2020-04-23T18:26:28 #kisslinux <onodera> this is how gtk+2 erros: https://camille.sh/ix5o.txt
2020-04-23T18:26:48 #kisslinux <onodera> notice the |  | towards the end
2020-04-23T18:27:04 #kisslinux <onodera> before the sed call
2020-04-23T18:32:05 #kisslinux <dylan03> Yeah
2020-04-23T18:32:06 #kisslinux <dylan03> Nice
2020-04-23T18:32:38 #kisslinux <dylan03> >  |  | /usr/bin/sed 's/.* //' | sort | uniq > .libs/libpkgconf.ex
2020-04-23T18:32:42 #kisslinux <dylan03> Same with pkgconf
2020-04-23T18:32:48 #kisslinux <dylan03> (make V=1)
2020-04-23T18:33:53 #kisslinux <onodera> i think that, somehow, flto removes the string that should be there
2020-04-23T18:34:19 #kisslinux <onodera> so there is like | $$1 | there i think
2020-04-23T18:34:26 #kisslinux <onodera> $1 being '' when flto is enabled
2020-04-23T18:34:42 #kisslinux <onodera> i tried setting my shell to bash and that doesn't help much
2020-04-23T18:37:23 #kisslinux <dylan03> Found the line
2020-04-23T18:37:25 #kisslinux <dylan03> > export_symbols_cmds="$NM $libobjs $convenience | $global_symbol_pipe | $SED 's/.* //' | sort | uniq > $export_symbols"
2020-04-23T18:39:42 #kisslinux <onodera> glibal_symbol_pipe eh
2020-04-23T18:39:46 #kisslinux <dylan03> This is the "global_symbol_pipe" or what is going missing
2020-04-23T18:39:50 #kisslinux <dylan03> > global_symbol_pipe="sed -n -e 's/^.*[	 ]([ABCDGIRSTW][ABCDGIRSTW]*)[	 ][	 ]*([_A-Za-z][_A-Za-z0-9]*)$/\1 \2 \2/p' | sed '/ __gnu_lto/d'"
2020-04-23T18:40:10 #kisslinux <dylan03> > # Take the output of nm and produce a listing of raw symbols and C names.
2020-04-23T18:43:33 #kisslinux <dylan03> -> grep -r global_symbol_pipe . | wc -l 61
2020-04-23T18:46:18 #kisslinux <dylan03> Hm
2020-04-23T18:46:33 #kisslinux <dylan03> ./configure even runs checks to pick what to set this to
2020-04-23T18:56:18 #kisslinux <dylan03> We just need to figure out why global_symbol_pipe ends up empty.
2020-04-23T21:49:27 #kisslinux <onodera> did anyone figure out how to use apulse with flatpak
2020-04-23T21:49:31 #kisslinux <onodera> doens't seem to be possible
2020-04-23T21:54:41 #kisslinux <onodera> seems like it is not possible, the only way seems to alter the flatpak bundles and make them include apulse
2020-04-23T21:56:50 #kisslinux <merakor> Wouldn't that require a rebuild of the bundle? I am not exactly familiar with flatpak
2020-04-23T21:57:18 #kisslinux <onodera> yeah probably true
2020-04-23T21:57:26 #kisslinux <onodera> so this might actually be an unfixable probalem :(
2020-04-23T21:57:49 #kisslinux <onodera> or dylan must come up with some ingenius hack
2020-04-23T22:12:53 #kisslinux <dilynm> Can we not make our own?
2020-04-23T22:13:04 #kisslinux <dilynm> I thought flatpacks were distributed like PPAs
2020-04-23T22:13:20 #kisslinux <onodera> that would require forking evert flatpak you would like to use though I think?
2020-04-23T22:13:38 #kisslinux <onodera> like I wanna run minecraft, I have to fork it, make it run through apulse, and keep it up to date
2020-04-23T22:30:21 #kisslinux <dilynm> The heart wants what the heart wants
2020-04-23T22:30:52 #kisslinux <dilynm> I agree it sucks but if it's possible, it seems like the easiest option? And we could just have a KISS flatpack repo
2020-04-23T23:14:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does anyone know how to compile a uxp based browser?
2020-04-23T23:26:28 #kisslinux <claudia> muevoid: are still interested in mypaint, or do you want to look into something else?
2020-04-23T23:34:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> Nah I moved on to azpainter lol.
2020-04-23T23:35:16 #kisslinux <muevoid> Im trying to package a uxp based browser however barely any info on how to compile them
2020-04-23T23:35:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> Mypaint had way to many dependencies for my liking personally
2020-04-23T23:37:23 #kisslinux <claudia> y for mine too. I was able to build the dependencies without gettext and build mypaint. But had also an gtk error I havent looked into
2020-04-23T23:37:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> Was it gtk namespace error?
2020-04-23T23:37:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> If so easy fix
2020-04-23T23:38:16 #kisslinux <claudia> I dont remember anymore (:
2020-04-23T23:38:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah lol
2020-04-23T23:38:34 #kisslinux <claudia> but If not needed than nevermind
2020-04-23T23:38:58 #kisslinux <muevoid> yeah azpainter is quite good for my needs and barely any dependencies
2020-04-23T23:39:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> I had gotten mypaint working
2020-04-23T23:39:34 #kisslinux <claudia> ah nice
2020-04-23T23:40:11 #kisslinux <claudia> which browser are you on, the one mentioned on reddit?
2020-04-23T23:41:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> I currently dont have any browser installed I was using surf but rn I am attempting to compile PaleMoon since iceweasel has even worse documentation
2020-04-23T23:44:52 #kisslinux <claudia> the aur has palemoon.
2020-04-23T23:45:39 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think I found an article that shows how to compile it
2020-04-23T23:46:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> it doesnt have that many dependencies it doesnt seem like
2020-04-23T23:46:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> Which is nice
2020-04-23T23:47:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> The only two that im not too fond of but are expected are gtk+3 and python2
2020-04-23T23:49:11 #kisslinux <claudia> choosing a browser is like pest or cholara (:
2020-04-23T23:49:16 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yep lol
2020-04-23T23:49:32 #kisslinux <muevoid> Webkit2gtk was the last one that was the least terrible imo
2020-04-23T23:49:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> This one seems better
2020-04-23T23:50:18 #kisslinux <claudia> I am mostly ok with webkit2 but sometimes I need the compatability of firefox
2020-04-23T23:51:44 #kisslinux <claudia> have you tried vimb? it has allready history and bookmark stuff.
2020-04-23T23:52:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> I have tried vimb
2020-04-23T23:52:25 #kisslinux <claudia> and github version also offers setting mousescroll speed
2020-04-23T23:52:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> I dont like having too many programming languages on my machine and webkit2gtk requires ruby
2020-04-23T23:52:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> Also jw compatability with what?
2020-04-23T23:52:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> My repo has youtube support for webkit
2020-04-23T23:53:31 #kisslinux <claudia> ruby is just a make dep
2020-04-23T23:53:41 #kisslinux <claudia> ah nice
2020-04-23T23:53:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> Or wait is ruby only needed for surf?
2020-04-23T23:53:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> Oh nvm
2020-04-23T23:53:59 #kisslinux <claudia> its needed for webkit and can be removed after build
2020-04-23T23:54:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gotcha
2020-04-23T23:54:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ill probably try out vimb again
2020-04-23T23:54:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> The main thing im missing from webkit is webrtc
2020-04-23T23:54:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> But its in the works apparently
2020-04-23T23:54:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> However it seems like it has been for a while