2021-01-28T02:50:06 #kisslinux <Rio6> I'm having the exact same xorg issue as this 12 year old BSD thread ...  https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/xorg-7-4-freezes-when-exit.2486/
2021-01-28T02:50:12 #kisslinux <Rio6> not very helpful
2021-01-28T02:55:11 #kisslinux <acheam> lol I love when that happens
2021-01-28T03:01:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> that reminds me of an xkcd comic
2021-01-28T03:03:08 #kisslinux <acheam> I think I know the one your talking about
2021-01-28T03:03:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> "What did you know!?!?!"
2021-01-28T03:03:28 #kisslinux <acheam> https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wisdom_of_the_ancients.png
2021-01-28T03:03:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah, that was it
2021-01-28T03:04:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's the KISS experience captured in two comic frames
2021-01-28T03:05:17 #kisslinux <acheam> Should we try and get control over this channel?
2021-01-28T03:05:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> nah
2021-01-28T03:05:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> the projected timeframe was six months to wait for dylan
2021-01-28T03:05:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> he's got at least one more month
2021-01-28T03:05:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> at that point I'd say we take temporary(?) control
2021-01-28T03:06:13 #kisslinux <acheam> Hes been gone since Nov 28
2021-01-28T03:06:20 #kisslinux <acheam> I guess im a bit more pessimistic than you
2021-01-28T03:06:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> wow thanks for crashing in the middle of a discussion, pidgin
2021-01-28T03:06:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> did I miss anything?
2021-01-28T03:07:24 #kisslinux <acheam> Me: "Hes been gone since Nov 28 n I guess im a bit more pessimistic than you"
2021-01-28T03:07:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> thanks
2021-01-28T03:07:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> and I mean, I dunno...
2021-01-28T03:07:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> I kinda want to hold out hope that he'll come back
2021-01-28T03:08:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you look at his contrib history, he was super active for a couple years and then just dropped off the face of the planet
2021-01-28T03:08:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> that doesn't seem like a normal thing for someone who enjoys programming to do
2021-01-28T03:08:45 #kisslinux <acheam> If he got COVID and recovered he'd be back by now. If its an issue with his laptop, i'm sure that he'd have been able to at least send some kind of public message by now, likewise if its a family issue
2021-01-28T03:08:49 #kisslinux <acheam> Right.
2021-01-28T03:08:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> so then could it be something more serious than that?
2021-01-28T03:09:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> he didn't seem like the kinda dude who would just up and leave
2021-01-28T03:09:12 #kisslinux <acheam> Might be worth it to do some research
2021-01-28T03:09:23 #kisslinux <acheam> He wanted distributed systems, etc, but he would give notice
2021-01-28T03:09:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> Yeah.
2021-01-28T03:09:42 #kisslinux <acheam> I think the old version of his website had a lot more info about his personal site
2021-01-28T03:09:46 #kisslinux <acheam> personal life*
2021-01-28T03:09:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> Well, even if it is a little creepy, I guess I'll poke around this weekend, see if I can find anything
2021-01-28T03:10:00 #kisslinux <acheam> Its more caring than creepy
2021-01-28T03:10:04 #kisslinux <acheam> IMO
2021-01-28T03:10:08 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-01-28T03:10:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> Caring, sure, but I only ever talked with him once, pfft
2021-01-28T03:10:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> so the context comes off more stalkerish than caring, at least imo
2021-01-28T03:10:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> but, whatever
2021-01-28T03:10:50 #kisslinux <acheam> I don't think i've ever actually talked to him
2021-01-28T03:10:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> at first I figured he might just be taking a break
2021-01-28T03:11:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> because if you look at his git contribs there are chunks of 1-2 months where he just stops
2021-01-28T03:11:09 #kisslinux <acheam> so yeah, not "caring" in the traditional friendship/family snese
2021-01-28T03:11:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> but...
2021-01-28T03:11:44 #kisslinux <acheam> His life was a lot more settled than it was earlier from what I can gather
2021-01-28T03:11:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah, so it wouldn't be a personal issue in that case
2021-01-28T03:12:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> unless... maybe someone in his family got sick, or something, maybe?
2021-01-28T03:12:11 #kisslinux * midfavila facepalm
2021-01-28T03:12:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> two maybes in a sentence. i do english very good sir
2021-01-28T03:13:36 #kisslinux <acheam> oooh he has a lot of contact info on his old website
2021-01-28T03:13:43 #kisslinux <acheam> maybe one of those could help?
2021-01-28T03:14:00 #kisslinux <acheam> Including a phone number, but I doubt its the same one he would be using now
2021-01-28T03:14:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> hmm. It's worth a shot
2021-01-28T03:14:15 #kisslinux <acheam> given that he moved across the world
2021-01-28T03:14:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> even if we could ask one of his friends or family
2021-01-28T03:16:09 #kisslinux <acheam> damn looks like he deleted all his social media at some point
2021-01-28T03:16:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's to be expected though
2021-01-28T03:16:32 #kisslinux <acheam> His patreon also hasn't been updated in ages
2021-01-28T03:16:36 #kisslinux <acheam> still has the old KISS domain on it
2021-01-28T03:16:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> hm...
2021-01-28T03:17:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> plot twist, dilyn was dylan the whole time
2021-01-28T03:17:33 #kisslinux <acheam> hehe
2021-01-28T03:18:33 #kisslinux <acheam> I dont think i'd be very useful looking around on australian or greek websites
2021-01-28T03:18:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, I think that the fact that the website for KISS is still up is proof that he intends to return
2021-01-28T03:18:50 #kisslinux <acheam> maybe someone local to those nations would understand the organizations a bit better
2021-01-28T03:18:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah probably
2021-01-28T03:19:11 #kisslinux <acheam> Its not like those are high maintenance things
2021-01-28T03:19:20 #kisslinux <acheam> they'd stay up unless he purposefully takes them down
2021-01-28T03:19:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> sure, but it's still money
2021-01-28T03:19:44 #kisslinux <acheam> I thought that the domain at least was donated by a user?
2021-01-28T03:19:48 #kisslinux <acheam> Maybe we can track them down?
2021-01-28T03:19:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> sure, but the server?
2021-01-28T03:20:04 #kisslinux <acheam> Its proxied through fastly
2021-01-28T03:20:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> fuck, not seven proxies. my one weakness
2021-01-28T03:21:02 #kisslinux <acheam> looking at the SSL cert now
2021-01-28T03:21:13 #kisslinux <acheam> don't know enough to get anything useful from it though
2021-01-28T03:21:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'll check and see if there's anything in the WHOIS
2021-01-28T03:21:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> doubt there is though
2021-01-28T03:21:31 #kisslinux <acheam> almost all WHOISs are anonymous now
2021-01-28T03:21:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah, I know
2021-01-28T03:21:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> yup, anonymous for k1ss
2021-01-28T03:21:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> hrm
2021-01-28T03:22:07 #kisslinux <acheam> what registrar?
2021-01-28T03:22:16 #kisslinux <acheam> Do you know what any of this means?
2021-01-28T03:22:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> namecheap
2021-01-28T03:22:18 #kisslinux <acheam> //i.imgur.com/H1CaOjV.png
2021-01-28T03:23:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, clearly it's been updated recently, but that would probably be automated
2021-01-28T03:23:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> beyond that I wouldn't know
2021-01-28T03:23:35 #kisslinux <acheam> ah! Something useful
2021-01-28T03:23:43 #kisslinux <acheam> The SSL cert on git.kiss.org is expired
2021-01-28T03:23:49 #kisslinux <acheam> so hes not upkeeping it
2021-01-28T03:24:06 #kisslinux <acheam> Expired on 2020-12-21
2021-01-28T03:24:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> interesting
2021-01-28T03:24:30 #kisslinux <acheam> I don't know what server he uses, and whether it should automatically renew it or not
2021-01-28T03:25:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> has anyone here just like... emailed him?
2021-01-28T03:26:00 #kisslinux <acheam> ehr i dont think so?
2021-01-28T03:26:05 #kisslinux <acheam> That.... might be smart
2021-01-28T03:26:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> okay so then how about we try that first
2021-01-28T03:26:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> pffft
2021-01-28T03:26:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> no point in tearing through heaven and hell if he can just tell us what's up
2021-01-28T03:26:27 #kisslinux <acheam> This might be the most clear image of him I can find
2021-01-28T03:26:29 #kisslinux <acheam> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6799467/81232157-09ac3500-8ffd-11ea-89c1-00153db00616.jpg
2021-01-28T03:26:42 #kisslinux <acheam> actually there are a few of them on k1ss.org
2021-01-28T03:26:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://www.flickr.com/people/dylanaraps/
2021-01-28T03:26:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> ?
2021-01-28T03:27:02 #kisslinux <acheam> okay im an idiot lol
2021-01-28T03:28:46 #kisslinux <acheam> oh the site is on Github pages
2021-01-28T03:28:56 #kisslinux <acheam> which is why it was Fastly'd
2021-01-28T03:29:52 #kisslinux <acheam> midfavila:  so do you want to shoot him an email?
2021-01-28T03:29:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> actually I'm writing it now
2021-01-28T03:30:03 #kisslinux <acheam> great!
2021-01-28T03:31:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> "Hi, Dylan. Sorry for the unsolicited mail; everyone in #kisslinux has been pretty worried about you as of late, what with your unannounced disappearance a few months ago. Some of us were wondering whether you were going to return to the project or if you had to drop it. Thanks, -Mid"
2021-01-28T03:31:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> Just short and to the point
2021-01-28T03:31:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> Anything else I should add, you think?
2021-01-28T03:31:56 #kisslinux <acheam> I'd be a bit more sincere in case it is something really serious
2021-01-28T03:32:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> Hrm... I'm not sure how I'd go about that. Ngl I kinda suck with people
2021-01-28T03:32:34 #kisslinux <acheam> Reading it without context it sounds like he just went on a happy little vacation (which he may well have done), but better to play it safe than sorry
2021-01-28T03:34:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> i can 100% confirm I am not dylan lmao
2021-01-28T03:34:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> #goals
2021-01-28T03:34:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> idk pretty sus man
2021-01-28T03:34:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> I have pictures of me on my github XD
2021-01-28T03:34:50 #kisslinux <acheam> Hi Dylan. Sorry for the unsolicited mail. I hope that everything is okay. We at #kisslinux have been a bit worried about you, given that we haven't heard from you in a few months. Is everything going all right, and is there anything we could do to help?
2021-01-28T03:34:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> my name's so unique you could easily find me on facebook...
2021-01-28T03:35:02 #kisslinux <acheam> Thats about ho I would write it
2021-01-28T03:35:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> seems fine
2021-01-28T03:35:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> I mean the way I see it dylan does what he wants; so if he hasn't made contact, there's good reason for it
2021-01-28T03:35:28 #kisslinux <acheam> Not asking about the project, if im sure he'd respond to that without being asked
2021-01-28T03:35:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> incap or incognito
2021-01-28T03:35:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> ¯_(ツ)_/¯
2021-01-28T03:35:54 #kisslinux <acheam> Yeah. Honestly if he's answering email, I don't know why he would't at least send a message to all his projects
2021-01-28T03:36:02 #kisslinux <acheam> or at least something publicly-facing
2021-01-28T03:36:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> alright, edited it to be more in-line with your suggestion
2021-01-28T03:36:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> isn't he paying for a domain for k1ss?
2021-01-28T03:36:22 #kisslinux <acheam> I wonder what the folks over at neofetch are doing....
2021-01-28T03:36:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's what I asked
2021-01-28T03:36:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> but apparently it was donated
2021-01-28T03:36:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> if so, if he's *crosses throat* then we'll find out in a few months...
2021-01-28T03:36:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> and the page itself is hosted on github
2021-01-28T03:37:21 #kisslinux <acheam> Looks like the folks over at Neofetch haven't noticed....
2021-01-28T03:37:27 #kisslinux <acheam> at least there are no GH issues
2021-01-28T03:37:32 #kisslinux <acheam> there are lots of open pulls though
2021-01-28T03:37:53 #kisslinux <acheam> Also, i'm not certain on the donated domain thing
2021-01-28T03:37:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> neofetch is basically feature complete ain't it
2021-01-28T03:37:59 #kisslinux <acheam> its just something I remember from somewhere
2021-01-28T03:38:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> so apparently SDF is limiting my account. either that or dylan's email is screwed
2021-01-28T03:38:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> one of you guys should send it instead
2021-01-28T03:38:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> f
2021-01-28T03:38:15 #kisslinux <acheam> I can send it
2021-01-28T03:38:58 #kisslinux <acheam> dylan.araps⊙gc?
2021-01-28T03:39:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> his patreon still has subs xD
2021-01-28T03:39:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> thought @k1ss?
2021-01-28T03:39:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> OH WAIT
2021-01-28T03:39:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> Looking more closely at the alpine logs
2021-01-28T03:39:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> dylan⊙ko
2021-01-28T03:39:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> his email is hosted at protonmail
2021-01-28T03:39:56 #kisslinux <acheam> Actually I just realized its 11pm and I have a lot of work to do for tomorrow still, could someone else send it
2021-01-28T03:39:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> his quota's exceeded
2021-01-28T03:40:07 #kisslinux <acheam> Im signing off for the night, see yall tomorrow
2021-01-28T03:40:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> so either he's not paying for his account or he's been getting flooded with emails
2021-01-28T03:40:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> gngn acheam
2021-01-28T03:40:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> sleep well
2021-01-28T03:40:29 #kisslinux <acheam> dylan.araps⊙gc is what was on his old website
2021-01-28T03:41:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> well if his patreon is generating money and dylan is willing enough to do autopay, all his accounts should still be up
2021-01-28T03:41:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> bills paid etc
2021-01-28T03:41:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> unless he's *gasp* USING that money!
2021-01-28T03:41:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> okay real talk
2021-01-28T03:41:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> what do people spend money on outside of computers
2021-01-28T03:41:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> and like
2021-01-28T03:41:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> food
2021-01-28T03:41:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> and bills
2021-01-28T03:42:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> movies
2021-01-28T03:42:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> spotify apparently
2021-01-28T03:42:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> just download media off the net for free tho
2021-01-28T03:42:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol these plebs aren't aware
2021-01-28T03:42:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> they didn't live through 2009
2021-01-28T03:42:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> most people i know have never heard of free as in libre software
2021-01-28T03:42:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> lame
2021-01-28T03:43:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> "you mean free as in like money? but how do the programmers get paid?"
2021-01-28T03:43:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> most people I know wouldn't be able to name three parts of a computer that aren't monitor, keyboard, mouse
2021-01-28T03:43:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> "fuck the programmers dog"
2021-01-28T03:43:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> okay okay okay
2021-01-28T03:43:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> get this right
2021-01-28T03:43:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> big C always lookin' for handouts s m h
2021-01-28T03:44:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> so I used to live in a few different shelters, one of the places I stayed at they tried to confiscate my machine. when I asked them what specifically they wanted they couldn't tell me
2021-01-28T03:44:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> i swear they didn't know the difference between a monitor and a system unit
2021-01-28T03:44:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmaooooo
2021-01-28T03:44:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> ultimately I gave them a power cable and then pulled out a spare
2021-01-28T03:44:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> they were satisfied with that
2021-01-28T03:44:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> morans
2021-01-28T03:44:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> morans indeed
2021-01-28T03:44:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> my parents grounded me from my computer so they took...
2021-01-28T03:44:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> my power strip
2021-01-28T03:44:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> f
2021-01-28T03:44:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> morans, morans evrwhir
2021-01-28T03:46:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> this is also the same organization that flipped their shit over me "hacking their system" because I bypassed a MAC whitelist
2021-01-28T03:46:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> the AP wasn't even encrypted
2021-01-28T03:46:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> absolutely l33t haxor
2021-01-28T03:46:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh yeah man, maximum ifconfig
2021-01-28T03:47:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> and nmap
2021-01-28T03:47:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> those aren't even words! what is he saying!!!
2021-01-28T03:47:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> burn the witch
2021-01-28T03:47:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> you joke but the cops showed up
2021-01-28T03:47:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> holy shit
2021-01-28T03:47:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> did you die?
2021-01-28T03:47:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> no, I died over something else
2021-01-28T03:47:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> o
2021-01-28T03:47:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> f
2021-01-28T03:47:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've abandoned my physical flesh and now live in the wired
2021-01-28T03:48:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> come join me anon
2021-01-28T03:48:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> he's neo oh shit
2021-01-28T03:48:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> then there was the other place I was at
2021-01-28T03:49:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> they wouldn't give anyone telecomms for any reason, but were using an AP with both WPS and WEP
2021-01-28T03:49:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> ...
2021-01-28T03:49:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> so after nine months of negotiating I just started cracking the shit out of their network
2021-01-28T03:49:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> because fuck you, people need to have access to information
2021-01-28T03:49:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> that also ended in the police but it was still worth it - w-
2021-01-28T03:49:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> man
2021-01-28T03:50:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> imagine committing crimes
2021-01-28T03:50:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's the digital equivalent of getting mad when someone kicks you for wearing a kick me sign
2021-01-28T03:50:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you make and put on a kick me sign you're literally asking for it
2021-01-28T03:51:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> apparently intel just started shipping their dGPUs
2021-01-28T03:52:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> xe life
2021-01-28T03:53:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> if they weren't shit and worked with older CPUs then I would probably get one
2021-01-28T03:53:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> but according to linus shill tips they require a ninth or tenth gen core CPU
2021-01-28T03:53:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> > if they weren't shit
2021-01-28T03:53:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> >> if they were good
2021-01-28T03:54:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> same diff
2021-01-28T03:54:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> > implying intel can make good products in 2021
2021-01-28T03:54:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> something something nm14+++++++++++++
2021-01-28T03:54:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> funnee joke
2021-01-28T03:54:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> fr though haswell was the last good intel microarchitecture
2021-01-28T03:55:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> you'll never get me to switch
2021-01-28T03:56:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=zB_UZsJUbwQ
2021-01-28T03:58:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeguh
2021-01-28T03:58:48 #kisslinux <dilyn> haswell was the mensch
2021-01-28T03:59:05 #kisslinux <dilyn> thirty minutes?? wtf
2021-01-28T03:59:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> ahoy is based
2021-01-28T03:59:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> legit better than tv
2021-01-28T03:59:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> in terms of production quality
2021-01-28T03:59:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> i feel like i've seen this fellow's stuff before
2021-01-28T04:00:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> you mighta
2021-01-28T04:02:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> I wish the Amiga was still a thing
2021-01-28T04:02:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> instead of fuckin macintosh
2021-01-28T04:03:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> imagine EA making polished and good software oh lord
2021-01-28T04:03:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> different times, different times...
2021-01-28T04:03:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah that dates the amiga :P
2021-01-28T04:07:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> i can't play music/audio without root :v
2021-01-28T04:07:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> funfunfun
2021-01-28T04:07:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> check your user account's groups
2021-01-28T04:08:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> they're fine
2021-01-28T04:08:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> weird
2021-01-28T04:08:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> weird indeed
2021-01-28T04:08:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> probably some permissions issue, is my guess
2021-01-28T04:08:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> on the card itself
2021-01-28T04:09:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> http://ix.io/2NwG
2021-01-28T04:09:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> also get a libEGL error but that seems like a red herring; video and pictures are fine :v
2021-01-28T04:09:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> are you trying to output over HDMI?
2021-01-28T04:09:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> no
2021-01-28T04:09:59 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-01-28T04:10:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> hm but...
2021-01-28T04:10:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you're in the right groups it should be fine
2021-01-28T04:10:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> could always just chown the dev file
2021-01-28T04:10:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> nope same error with the monitor unplugged
2021-01-28T04:10:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> problem is i don't recognize any of the devices in /dev/snd?
2021-01-28T04:11:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> could also be an alsa-lib problem...
2021-01-28T04:12:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's not an mpv problem because i need to be root to launch alsamixer :v
2021-01-28T04:12:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> should just be root 24/7 tbh. I am the cpatain
2021-01-28T04:12:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's really weird
2021-01-28T04:14:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> I haven't had alsa problems since I used arch!
2021-01-28T04:14:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> triggered
2021-01-28T04:25:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> oh my frekain' gawsh
2021-01-28T04:25:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> don't have an mdev.conf in /etc smfh
2021-01-28T06:44:33 #kisslinux <chira> z
2021-01-28T06:44:51 #kisslinux <chira> 06:09 < dilyn> nope same error with the monitor unplugged
2021-01-28T06:44:51 #kisslinux <chira> 06:09 < dilyn> problem is i don't recognize any of the devices in /dev/snd?
2021-01-28T06:45:40 #kisslinux <chira> sorry, child playing with keyboard
2021-01-28T09:18:18 #kisslinux <tracer> Good Morning.
2021-01-28T09:19:14 #kisslinux <tracer> Some strange behaviour. If I'm and want to switch to a non privileged user via su - user the system ask for the password. Did someone ever experience that?
2021-01-28T09:38:31 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> tracer: `su` doesn't ask me for a password to switch users if im root
2021-01-28T09:40:00 #kisslinux <tracer> hi testuser[m]_ Yes, that's exactly the way I know, that's why I'm surprised. Maybe something broken with the PAM stuff? But its not that worse. I'm currently by getting my X-Window to something larger than 800x600 via VMWare DRI.
2021-01-28T09:53:04 #kisslinux <konimex> depends on whether su is invoked as root I think? I definitely got asked the password if I'm switching to a non-privileged user from another non-privileged user
2021-01-28T10:12:54 #kisslinux <tracer> Thats clear. No, I did it as root.
2021-01-28T10:47:44 #kisslinux <tracer> How the hell does one exit from sddm-greeter --test-mode?
2021-01-28T10:56:11 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> maybe switch to tty and kill it
2021-01-28T10:56:47 #kisslinux <tracer> I did it from a ssh session. But it cannot be that there is no option to end the test?
2021-01-28T11:09:53 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB/Tips_and_tricks#Setting_the_framebuffer_resolution is there an equivalent kernel parameter for this?
2021-01-28T13:41:33 #kisslinux <tracer> I found a bug in KISS. If you build 2 packages at the same time and have KISS_PID set, when the first build finishes it removes the compile dir for the second process.
2021-01-28T13:44:41 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> doesn't really seem like a bug, if building multiple packages you should set different KISS_PID for them
2021-01-28T13:44:44 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> cuz the PID dir is wiped after packaging
2021-01-28T13:46:40 #kisslinux <tracer> But I want to have all sources under s fixed prefix. They are still separated by packagename.
2021-01-28T13:47:35 #kisslinux <tracer> Workaround is to set KISS_DEBUG=1. Clutters the /tmpdir, but for me it's a RAM disk, so it doesn't matter.
2021-01-28T13:51:43 #kisslinux <tracer> I'll modify some of the behavior anyways. /bin bolungs under /var like the sources. Having then on TMP is not good, as tmp gets cleaned up.
2021-01-28T13:52:24 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> why are you setting KISS_PID when the sources are wiped after packaging anyways
2021-01-28T13:57:20 #kisslinux <tracer> For fast debugging. I don't have to check which is the newest dir, as ist is always the same
2021-01-28T14:00:34 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> then you can modify kiss to check if the pid dir has any other dirs before removing it
2021-01-28T14:03:26 #kisslinux <tracer> Might be another option, but KISS_DEBUG works, too, and there will be a time when I'm finished building tons of packages a day. Got KF5 90%, Plasma around 75%. X works, sddm works. After the project is over.
2021-01-28T14:04:41 #kisslinux <tracer> But, if I still finde time I will eventually rewrite the package manager in a language I'm more firm with than plain Shell script.
2021-01-28T14:09:09 #kisslinux <tracer> Currently I'm missing Qt5XmlPatternsConfig.cmake
2021-01-28T14:29:22 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> this is him too https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_Vz9Y7TZ9h7strT_h2msDw/videos
2021-01-28T14:30:00 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> you can see a dude running around in the background of the "it wasn't me" video that looks a lot like the other pictures we're assuming are him
2021-01-28T14:31:11 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhomtd6Ift4&t=0m25s
2021-01-28T14:32:07 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> also at 3min mark
2021-01-28T14:41:49 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> also this theoretically is him as well: https://teespring.com/kiss0?tsmac=store&tsmic=k1ss&pid=794&cid=103544
2021-01-28T14:48:42 #kisslinux <tracer> Are you staling Dylan now? :)
2021-01-28T14:51:05 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> lol not really
2021-01-28T14:51:19 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> is anyone able to get info about the older kiss.org domain?  looks like someone snatched it up
2021-01-28T14:52:08 #kisslinux <tracer> Just kidding :-) I read that you were talking tonite about what might have happened to him.
2021-01-28T14:52:26 #kisslinux <tracer> The older one was getkiss.org
2021-01-28T14:52:59 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> oh right, you're correct
2021-01-28T14:54:14 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> the kissing lips icon of kiss.org is the same as the one on the corner of the t-shirt designs
2021-01-28T14:54:44 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> well not exactly.  and that could just be "how many pictures of kissing lips are there..."
2021-01-28T14:55:08 #kisslinux <tracer> Oh, I just broke my system …
2021-01-28T14:56:33 #kisslinux <tracer> https://imgur.com/a/YKilYyR
2021-01-28T14:59:11 #kisslinux <tracer> Strange enough even my rescue setup failed, /usr/bin/zsh error -2. And the last snapshot it 2 days old. Dammit.
2021-01-28T15:00:00 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> wat.  were you doing cpu passthrough or anything "crazy"?
2021-01-28T15:01:39 #kisslinux <tracer> Ne, I just rebuild systemd, then the system froze. Went into rescue tar xvf /root/.cache/kiss/systemd ... -C / and afterwards it panics on rescue. Will take it back via TimeMachine.
2021-01-28T15:07:16 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> >I just rebuild systemd
2021-01-28T15:07:20 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> Found the issue!
2021-01-28T15:07:26 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> just kidding :)
2021-01-28T15:11:45 #kisslinux <tracer> :-) I was no fan of systemd in the beginning either, moved my hosting servers to Devuan. But after a year or so I adapted systemd and returned to Debian.
2021-01-28T15:13:51 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> it doesn't benefit me whatsoever so i don't use it.  i hate working with pulseaudio, for example, when alsa serves all my purposes just fine
2021-01-28T15:14:27 #kisslinux <tracer> I have no sound at all in my VM. Maybe I'll try that sometimes.
2021-01-28T15:18:56 #kisslinux <tracer> ergs. Currently I get no such file or directory for command which exists. I had that once when I broke my glibc. But now I just rebuild systemd. Strange.
2021-01-28T15:20:51 #kisslinux <tracer> Ah. Systemd fucked my system because it broke the /bin and /sbin symlinks. Bad, but repairable.
2021-01-28T15:24:27 #kisslinux <tracer> Back in business :-)
2021-01-28T15:25:34 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> could those triplets on dylan.k1ss.org be some kind of trifid cipher?
2021-01-28T15:26:25 #kisslinux <tracer> What do you mean?
2021-01-28T15:28:53 #kisslinux <tracer> So, now I must repair the systemd build script. In the end I will only have my own repos, with kiss-outdated it's so easy to track updates.
2021-01-28T15:30:09 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trifid_cipher possibly each triplet of alphanumerics represents a single alphanumeric character
2021-01-28T15:40:27 #kisslinux <tracer> I guess not :-)
2021-01-28T16:18:35 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Nydri_main_street.JPG
2021-01-28T16:18:40 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6799467/81232172-13359d00-8ffd-11ea-9cc8-ef7bad053da5.jpg
2021-01-28T16:22:47 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7059935,20.7090217,3a,75y,19.62h,83.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sijhCB-XOz7P0IxbKRab_jQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
2021-01-28T16:23:51 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> why
2021-01-28T16:25:21 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> it's him
2021-01-28T16:25:44 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> call one of those restaurants up and ask if they know him i dunno
2021-01-28T16:35:33 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> how much time did you spend on this lol
2021-01-28T17:01:11 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> not that long... i remembered some of the old kiss "new this week/month" posts had images, and then i just googled the name of the restaurant that was in one of the pictures.  no cool hacking skilz :(
2021-01-28T17:39:38 #kisslinux <sad_plan> is there any trick to getting the kiss-llvm stuff to work? I wanted to test it out, but after kiss a -ing, building stuff fails.
2021-01-28T17:40:45 #kisslinux <sad_plan> first I buildt the @llvm as stated in the readme, after kiss c in kiss-llvm/llvm, then built llvm, and removed @llvm, kiss a | grep ^llvm | kiss a -
2021-01-28T17:40:52 #kisslinux <sad_plan> then I get stuck
2021-01-28T17:41:45 #kisslinux <sad_plan> im suppose to rebuild a couple of stuff linked to namely libgcc_s.so among something else, but it fails..
2021-01-28T17:43:10 #kisslinux <sad_plan> ive added CC=cc and CXX=c++ in my kiss_path.sh aswell. did I do it wrong?
2021-01-28T17:43:39 #kisslinux <sad_plan>  export CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -march=native"
2021-01-28T17:44:42 #kisslinux <sad_plan> CXXFLAGS="$CFLAGS"  MAKEFLAGS="j6"  CC=cc  CXX=c++
2021-01-28T17:45:01 #kisslinux <sad_plan> was I suppose to change CXXFLAGS instead?
2021-01-28T18:20:41 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> building stuff fails... you should show logs and stuff sad_plan
2021-01-28T18:25:52 #kisslinux <acheam> ominous_anonymou: that's... impressive
2021-01-28T18:26:14 #kisslinux <sad_plan> testuser; https://pastebin.com/8GgK9WsX
2021-01-28T18:28:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> any of you guys have luck getting the ROX filer to compile on KISS?
2021-01-28T18:28:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> it fails at the linker stage for me, screams something about "multiple definitions". has similar reactions when compiling any older software
2021-01-28T18:29:38 #kisslinux <tracer> I've LLVM running, but I use glibc.
2021-01-28T18:33:00 #kisslinux <sad_plan> does that even matter when building gcc? Im just curious..
2021-01-28T18:33:27 #kisslinux <sad_plan> I mean.. gcc isnt directly related to glibc or musl libc for that matter
2021-01-28T18:34:13 #kisslinux <tracer> I just looked at the pastebin, it's a different target.
2021-01-28T18:35:25 #kisslinux <aarng> ok, so who is going to make that call? :D
2021-01-28T18:36:03 #kisslinux <sad_plan> how about you make that call? C:
2021-01-28T18:36:48 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> depends on if anyone here speaks greek
2021-01-28T18:37:36 #kisslinux <sad_plan> speaking english isnt too much of an issue down there. ive been around greece a couple of times, and I didnt have any issues communicating with people around on resturants and such
2021-01-28T18:38:12 #kisslinux <sad_plan> though it miiight be an issue if the resturant is someplace where theres little to no tourists at all. ive mainly been in bigger cities, so I cant speak for the smaller ones
2021-01-28T18:39:25 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i think i know where he actually lives but i don't a) know how to get the physical address of the building and b) show that info here since he would probably be upset
2021-01-28T18:40:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah let's try to avoid doxing dylan
2021-01-28T18:40:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> pffft
2021-01-28T18:41:52 #kisslinux <sad_plan> yeah, not everyone would greet you with joy if youre really just a stranger showing up on his door
2021-01-28T18:42:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> i feel like nobody would
2021-01-28T18:42:07 #kisslinux <sad_plan> even if you claim youre from #kisslinux
2021-01-28T18:42:20 #kisslinux <sad_plan> depends on how open minded one are.
2021-01-28T18:42:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> "yeah hi i know we've never talked or met before but I'm from an irc channel and we were just worried about you"
2021-01-28T18:42:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> "go away or I'm calling the police"
2021-01-28T18:42:37 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> ^ right
2021-01-28T18:42:49 #kisslinux <sad_plan> lol yeah that woould be a realistic scenario tbf
2021-01-28T18:44:06 #kisslinux <sad_plan> mid, did you got to send that email? or did someone else do it? I mustve missed if someone else said they did.. you mentioned it yesterday, but you had to leave
2021-01-28T18:44:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah I tried to send him an email
2021-01-28T18:44:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> but his account is locked
2021-01-28T18:44:42 #kisslinux <sad_plan> right. I recall now.. so no dice on sending him an email
2021-01-28T18:44:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's hosted at protonmail and I got a bounced message reporting that his quota's been exceeded
2021-01-28T18:44:47 #kisslinux <aarng> we could also send an email to the restaurant
2021-01-28T18:45:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> meaning he's either being swamped or hasn't been able to pay his bills for whatever reason
2021-01-28T18:45:14 #kisslinux <sad_plan> could send him an oldschool letter though, however, youd need his physical address for that to happen
2021-01-28T18:45:19 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> "hey have you seen a long-haired dude in a Che Guevara t-shirt running around lately"
2021-01-28T18:45:28 #kisslinux <sad_plan> lol ^
2021-01-28T18:45:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> plus the letter route takes ages
2021-01-28T18:45:36 #kisslinux <sad_plan> yeah
2021-01-28T18:45:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...and there's also not a 100% chance that they would even be able to read it
2021-01-28T18:45:54 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> how'd his laptop get delivered?  it was through a carrier service right, not an actual address or like... PO Box equivalent?
2021-01-28T18:45:54 #kisslinux <sad_plan> takes a few weeks or so, depending on where in the world youre shipping from
2021-01-28T18:46:02 #kisslinux <sad_plan> yeah that too
2021-01-28T18:47:08 #kisslinux <sad_plan> most likely by mail, just like everyone else. afaik, greece has infrastructure like most other countries in that part of europe
2021-01-28T18:47:38 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://k1ss.org/blog/20200426a "The laptop was €550 and arrived within a week of purchase. This being Greece,
2021-01-28T18:47:38 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> I was able to buy the laptop online with cash (via cash-on-delivery)! It's a
2021-01-28T18:47:38 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> cool system which enables you to shop online without the use of a card/Paypal."
2021-01-28T18:47:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> man I wish Canada had something like that
2021-01-28T18:48:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've been wanting to switch to using cash and crypto, but it's impossible around here for the most part
2021-01-28T18:48:20 #kisslinux <sad_plan> sounds like he used something local imo
2021-01-28T18:48:33 #kisslinux <aarng> chill out, stallman
2021-01-28T18:48:38 #kisslinux <sad_plan> seeing as he was able to pay cash. not alot of places accept cash
2021-01-28T18:48:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> the software on the card is proprietary aarng
2021-01-28T18:49:02 #kisslinux <sad_plan> stallman? wym
2021-01-28T18:49:13 #kisslinux <aarng> fuck, got me :D
2021-01-28T18:49:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> stallman refuses to use debit or anything like that
2021-01-28T18:49:24 #kisslinux <aarng> sad_plan, meant midfavila
2021-01-28T18:49:27 #kisslinux <sad_plan> sounds like stallman
2021-01-28T18:49:29 #kisslinux <sad_plan> oh ok
2021-01-28T18:49:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> ngl stallman is p based
2021-01-28T18:49:40 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> there was another spot, maybe in irc, where he talked more about how it worke
2021-01-28T18:50:03 #kisslinux <sad_plan> p based?
2021-01-28T18:50:50 #kisslinux <sad_plan> do you recall its name or something?
2021-01-28T18:50:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> pretty based
2021-01-28T18:50:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> like he's awesome imo
2021-01-28T18:51:00 #kisslinux <sad_plan> ah
2021-01-28T18:51:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> even if he's totally a wacko
2021-01-28T18:51:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> like you can't tell me that the fact that he's spent every day since the late 70s early 80s on writing free software isn't impressive
2021-01-28T18:52:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> or, you know, campaigning for it
2021-01-28T18:52:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> w/e
2021-01-28T18:52:20 #kisslinux <sad_plan> I sortof like stallman, I mean, he is extreme, like not wanting a phone even, but he stands by his principles, and I can respect that
2021-01-28T18:52:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've been slowly reducing my phone usage
2021-01-28T18:52:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> ideally I won't need one either
2021-01-28T18:52:45 #kisslinux <tracer> RMS is just stupid. i like Apple Pay ^^ So, wish you a nice evening, will went to my wife.
2021-01-28T18:52:58 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> have a good night tracer
2021-01-28T18:53:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> RMS is many things, but he's far from stupid
2021-01-28T18:53:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> at least he actually wrote software unlike Jobs
2021-01-28T18:53:25 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-01-28T18:53:26 #kisslinux <sad_plan> I were without a phone for like 2 months or so some year back, and I actualy likd it. it was liberating. I had a tablet though with a data sim in it
2021-01-28T18:53:33 #kisslinux <tracer> Not stupid in intellectual way, but in a social way.
2021-01-28T18:53:58 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i think people like RMS are important to have and to support. it is too easy to ignore erosions of privacy and security in the name of convenience, and once those are gone you will never get them back
2021-01-28T18:54:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> most people who are into tech for tech's sake tend to be pretty socially unconventional
2021-01-28T18:54:35 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> RMS does his best to highlight this through keeping to his principles
2021-01-28T18:55:49 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> ok so re: dylan's new laptop, people made donations and dylan bought it himself.  so no one sent anything to a physical address as far as i could find
2021-01-28T18:56:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> prolly just withdrew the cash from an atm
2021-01-28T18:56:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> or somethin
2021-01-28T18:57:30 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> jedavies did you ever get an email from another person than dylan regarding the laptop?
2021-01-28T19:04:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> side note, totally unrelated, but do you guys know if it's possible to use `install` with directories?
2021-01-28T19:05:26 #kisslinux <aarng> ominous_anonymou: someone donated a whole computer to him
2021-01-28T19:05:32 #kisslinux <aarng> that guy should have the address
2021-01-28T19:05:59 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> from what i can tell they donated money and then dylan bought the laptop himself, i don't think anyone ever got an address
2021-01-28T19:06:22 #kisslinux <aarng> I'm pretty sure it was an entire machine
2021-01-28T19:06:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> we need to make some assumptions here
2021-01-28T19:06:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> if we look at dylan's habits, it's clear he cares about his personal privacy
2021-01-28T19:06:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> so he's not gonna give out his address to random people on the internoots
2021-01-28T19:07:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> idk that's just how I see it
2021-01-28T19:07:48 #kisslinux <acheam> should we make another more private channel so we don't accidentally doxx him?
2021-01-28T19:07:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> probably a good idea...
2021-01-28T19:08:02 #kisslinux <acheam> I'm on signal, session, and matrix
2021-01-28T19:08:18 #kisslinux <acheam> if you'd prefer to use one of those
2021-01-28T19:08:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> I'm not super picky
2021-01-28T19:08:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> I think I can set up a matrix plugin for pidgin
2021-01-28T19:08:45 #kisslinux <acheam> Im not huge on matrix personally
2021-01-28T19:09:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> ngl irc is muh convenience
2021-01-28T19:09:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> 'cuz we're all already on here
2021-01-28T19:09:39 #kisslinux <acheam> do you want to just make a new not logbotted channel?
2021-01-28T19:09:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> that works. although I wouldn't know how to do that
2021-01-28T19:09:55 #kisslinux <acheam> neither do I lol
2021-01-28T19:10:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> probably would have to ask the sysops
2021-01-28T19:10:12 #kisslinux <acheam> let me get my laptop
2021-01-28T19:10:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> and that wouldn't go over well I think
2021-01-28T19:10:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> "yeah hey so can we have a private channel dedicated to finding this random dude"
2021-01-28T19:10:31 #kisslinux <acheam> I think freenode is still a bit too public
2021-01-28T19:10:33 #kisslinux <acheam> Lol yeah
2021-01-28T19:11:00 #kisslinux <acheam> Let me look into setting up my own irc server
2021-01-28T19:11:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> cool
2021-01-28T19:11:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's what I was thinking of too
2021-01-28T19:11:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> but not everyone can set stuff up at home like that
2021-01-28T19:11:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> because CGNAT and all that
2021-01-28T19:11:29 #kisslinux <acheam> I can :(
2021-01-28T19:11:33 #kisslinux <acheam> :)*
2021-01-28T19:11:37 #kisslinux * midfavila shakes their fist at Canadian ISPs
2021-01-28T19:11:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> fuckers
2021-01-28T19:12:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> huzzah, the rox filer now has a port to kiss
2021-01-28T19:12:25 #kisslinux <aarng> fairly sure logbot is opt-in, not the other way around
2021-01-28T19:12:40 #kisslinux <acheam> right but an open channel is still pretty public
2021-01-28T19:13:29 #kisslinux <aarng> you can /mode +skpassword
2021-01-28T19:13:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> http://0x0.st/--0I.png
2021-01-28T19:13:37 #kisslinux <aarng> not sure on the proper flag for secret channels
2021-01-28T19:16:09 #kisslinux <acheam> Its +s
2021-01-28T19:16:51 #kisslinux <acheam> Why don't we just do matrix?
2021-01-28T19:17:11 #kisslinux <acheam> Setting up my own IRC servers seems a bit more complex than what I want to take on right now
2021-01-28T19:17:19 #kisslinux <acheam> And Freenode seems finnicky
2021-01-28T19:18:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> brb
2021-01-28T19:20:53 #kisslinux <sad_plan> matrix can atleast be encrypted, and I do belive you can have closed rooms. you can also use no backlogs afaik. so new members cant see whats been written before they joined. if Im not mistaken
2021-01-28T19:26:43 #kisslinux <acheam> I don't think that we need that level of security, although it is good to know!
2021-01-28T19:30:42 #kisslinux <sad_plan> yeah. I had some issues with the cross-signing part on element though, so just beware if you i.e. log into your phone, and you format it, or loose it, withut loging out from element, and you log back into on some other device, it seems you may never be able to crosssign again. its a bug or something. I dunno if they ever fixed that. I also woke up one day, and my encrypted messages were suddenly no longer available..
2021-01-28T19:31:15 #kisslinux <sad_plan> so you might want to look into that, if you choose to use element instead of other clients
2021-01-28T19:32:56 #kisslinux <acheam> Good to know, thanks
2021-01-28T19:33:26 #kisslinux <sad_plan> no problem C:
2021-01-28T19:47:15 #kisslinux <tracer> Just a short sidenote: I can easily setup a irc server if you need one, but not now, remind me tomorrow if you need one, so now really off :-) bye
2021-01-28T19:48:14 #kisslinux <acheam> I'm working on it right now, thanks though tracer!
2021-01-28T19:48:25 #kisslinux <acheam> Got inspircd up and running, just trying to get a cert
2021-01-28T19:48:33 #kisslinux <tracer> 👍
2021-01-28T19:48:47 #kisslinux <acheam> You'll notice I do a lot of "that looks too hard im not doing it", then the first second I get bored I start doing it
2021-01-28T19:48:50 #kisslinux <tracer> Do you have a static IP?
2021-01-28T19:49:48 #kisslinux <tracer> acheam: ?
2021-01-28T19:50:10 #kisslinux <acheam> tracer:  Yep, its being hosted on my DO droplet
2021-01-28T19:50:14 #kisslinux <acheam> I've got a domain for it too
2021-01-28T19:51:23 #kisslinux <tracer> OK, else I'd build you a vServer to play around with.
2021-01-28T19:51:45 #kisslinux <tracer> BTW, what is a DO droplet? :-)
2021-01-28T19:54:07 #kisslinux <acheam> The cloud provider Digital Ocean
2021-01-28T19:54:09 #kisslinux <acheam> :)
2021-01-28T20:06:58 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> need like a jitsi meet but just for chat
2021-01-28T20:10:37 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://www.leapchat.org/#FamilyHalogenOccupationUsernameTastebudPedometerSuaveEagernessWindmillJustifyingAlsoAmuserFinalistFixtureBusboyCozinessGroundhogConfettiModifyDemocratUncleMapmakerOuthouseEmceeSedative
2021-01-28T20:11:22 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> this works and is end-to-end encrypted.  i wish it had some kind of moderator thing to allow the "owner" of the current room accept/deny privileges on people accessing it
2021-01-28T20:23:10 #kisslinux <sad_plan> I came to think of something. Im sure its already been brought up, buut, have there ever came up any aquantiances, friends or relatives to Dylan, that we could potentially ask about him?
2021-01-28T20:25:27 #kisslinux <sad_plan> if its not too forward or something.. Im sure you guys wish to exhaust your options in regards to figuring out if Dylans ok, and if he wishes to still be a part of this lovely community
2021-01-28T20:27:39 #kisslinux <sad_plan> also, can I symlink files into a git dir, or vice versa? so I dont have to do the work of some files twice, or copy and overwrite them when making changes?
2021-01-28T20:28:29 #kisslinux <sad_plan> I made a repo for my user.js, and am going to make something more aswell for configs, and obviously I wanna make it the most convinient..
2021-01-28T20:30:55 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> hm my first instinct is to treat it like a third-party dependency, i try not to couple things too closely
2021-01-28T20:32:28 #kisslinux <sad_plan> so.. not a great idea?
2021-01-28T20:35:42 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> my personal opinion is i'd hesitate to link it like that
2021-01-28T20:35:54 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> but that's not to say it can't be done
2021-01-28T20:39:34 #kisslinux <sad_plan> I havent tried either, so I cant really say if itll work or not, but I figured it would make things easier. sortof semi-automation, because I only *have* to edit it one place, but *can* edit them 3. which would be really nice imo
2021-01-28T20:40:00 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> that's fair, i can see the use for it for sure
2021-01-28T20:40:25 #kisslinux <sad_plan> yeah
2021-01-28T20:51:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> Bleh, just found out that SDF enforces a limit on commit size
2021-01-28T20:51:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> time to push my packages to my repo one... at... a... time...
2021-01-28T20:52:23 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> parallelize it!
2021-01-28T20:53:13 #kisslinux <midfavila1> with like GNU parallel or is there an actual way to do that with git?
2021-01-28T20:53:18 #kisslinux <midfavila1> I've literally never used it before so
2021-01-28T20:54:15 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> well if its the same repo and everything you could just use xargs
2021-01-28T20:54:58 #kisslinux <midfavila1> hmm. if that's the case how would you suggest going about it?
2021-01-28T20:55:02 #kisslinux <midfavila1> i've... also never used xargs
2021-01-28T20:56:23 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://shapeshed.com/unix-xargs/ if you've got a list of packages you could pipe them to xargs
2021-01-28T20:56:43 #kisslinux <midfavila1> cool, will read up on that
2021-01-28T20:56:47 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> or you might be able to use the find -exec functionality
2021-01-28T20:56:58 #kisslinux <midfavila1> i was just using a for loop ngl
2021-01-28T20:57:25 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> (that link has an "xargs v exec" section which shows the find -exec usage)
2021-01-28T20:57:35 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> hey that works too!
2021-01-28T20:58:09 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> you only have a set amount of bandwidth for uploading anyways, so as long as that's maxed out it doesn't matter if you're doing it serially or in parallel
2021-01-28T20:58:33 #kisslinux <midfavila1> for file in Ted asciidoc axel ... ^J do cp -r /var/db/kiss/kiss-mfavila/$file ./$file ^J git add $file ^J git commit ^J git push ^J done
2021-01-28T20:58:57 #kisslinux <midfavila1> if I can add a way to authenticate myself non-interactively I'll definitely use xargs
2021-01-28T21:00:07 #kisslinux <midfavila1> will have to read the manpages, thanks
2021-01-28T21:00:11 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> sure thing
2021-01-28T21:00:20 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> both are useful, and find is pretty much everywhere
2021-01-28T21:07:56 #kisslinux <midfavila1> okay yeah 's working now
2021-01-28T21:08:08 #kisslinux <midfavila1> just had to use git config to store my credentials
2021-01-28T21:14:15 #kisslinux <midfavila1> my sloppiness in handling the source code for packages will be my undoing xwx
2021-01-28T21:14:21 #kisslinux <midfavila1> have to go through and clean everything up, bleh
2021-01-28T21:17:37 #kisslinux <midfavila1> man, being able to sit here and just watch stuff show up in my git repo on its own is so cool
2021-01-28T21:17:41 #kisslinux <midfavila1> computers are awesome
2021-01-28T22:09:10 #kisslinux <midfavila1> alright wew, got that squared away
2021-01-28T22:09:17 #kisslinux <midfavila1> now I can say that I did something useful today, woo
2021-01-28T22:09:51 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> lmao today was a good day!
2021-01-28T22:10:15 #kisslinux <midfavila1> aside from sleeping through my classes, yeah
2021-01-28T22:10:25 #kisslinux <midfavila1> but it's just A+ prepwork so meh
2021-01-28T22:12:27 #kisslinux <midfavila1> https://git.sdf.org/midfavila/kiss-mfavila
2021-01-28T22:12:40 #kisslinux <midfavila1> some stuff doesn't build right yet, but most of it's good
2021-01-28T22:12:51 #kisslinux <midfavila1> i also stole a few packages from other repos just for convenience's sake
2021-01-28T22:13:47 #kisslinux <midfavila1> that or they've been modified. like s/ubase for example. not a fan of packing everything into one binary
2021-01-28T22:49:38 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> woof yeah you weren't kidding about a lot!
2021-01-28T22:52:14 #kisslinux <midfavila1> 141 :p
2021-01-28T22:56:53 #kisslinux <midfavila1> fet.sh
2021-01-28T22:56:55 #kisslinux <midfavila1> fuc
2021-01-28T22:56:57 #kisslinux <midfavila1> wrong window
2021-01-28T23:31:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> do any of you guys know of a CLI program that checks the MIME type of a file?
2021-01-28T23:31:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> I'm thinking of writing a little script that will pipe data to different programs based on MIME
2021-01-28T23:34:59 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> ranger does i believe
2021-01-28T23:35:17 #kisslinux <acheam> You can do that in perl
2021-01-28T23:35:19 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://github.com/ranger/ranger/blob/master/ranger/data/mime.types
2021-01-28T23:35:34 #kisslinux <acheam> also, `mimeo`
2021-01-28T23:35:41 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> oh whoops i kind of have it backwards, sorry.  ranger pipes to programs *based on* mimetype
2021-01-28T23:35:48 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> wait
2021-01-28T23:36:00 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i think its time for me to go to bed geez
2021-01-28T23:36:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> only reason I'm writing an external script is so I can avoid huge programs or redundant programs
2021-01-28T23:36:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'll check out mimeo
2021-01-28T23:37:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> >python
2021-01-28T23:37:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> rip mimeo I guess
2021-01-28T23:37:13 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i think ranger does it by file extension rather than checking the file format itself: https://github.com/ranger/ranger/blob/master/ranger/data/scope.sh#L50
2021-01-28T23:38:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'm pretty sure ROX can actually do what I want to, but... writing a portable script that relies on a specific and relatively obscure file manager isn't, er, portable
2021-01-28T23:39:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> maybe I'll write a program for it myself
2021-01-28T23:40:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> seems like it would be a good project
2021-01-28T23:40:14 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> file --mime-type -b "filename"
2021-01-28T23:40:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...wow, never mind, haha
2021-01-28T23:40:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> thanks
2021-01-28T23:40:55 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> today we learned lol
2021-01-28T23:41:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> I need to explore coreutils more I guess
2021-01-28T23:41:36 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> there's also a "mimetype" command but i don't know if that's ubuntu specific
2021-01-28T23:42:05 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> and "xdg-mime"
2021-01-28T23:42:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, if I can accomplish it with coreutils, I'll probably do it that way
2021-01-28T23:42:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> although --mime-type isn't posix, it'll do for now
2021-01-28T23:42:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> then again I don't think posix cares about mimetypes
2021-01-28T23:42:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> so, meh
2021-01-28T23:51:54 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> you can try -i instead of --mime-type, you might have to parse more info though
2021-01-28T23:52:29 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i think -i give the encoding as well as the type
2021-01-28T23:54:40 #kisslinux <acheam> IRC server is (hopefully) setup! Join pickupserver.cc . The only channel at the moment is #lobby. There should be a working self signed cert
2021-01-28T23:55:39 #kisslinux <acheam> Register with nickserv when you get there