[2021-08-13T02:02:31Z] <duplex> how do I check what kernel modules I need to enable to sound (i.e. how do I tell what sound card I have without the driver)
[2021-08-13T02:15:44Z] <midfavila-laptop> is it onboard audio?
[2021-08-13T02:17:29Z] <duplex> yes
[2021-08-13T02:18:15Z] <midfavila-laptop> you need the intel hda drivers almost certainly, then
[2021-08-13T02:18:44Z] <midfavila-laptop> unless you're some weirdo who uses ac'97
[2021-08-13T02:19:20Z] <kyxor> hi! do you guys know where the value for "$1" is defined in kiss?
[2021-08-13T02:19:33Z] <midfavila-laptop> $1 is a special form in posix shell
[2021-08-13T02:19:52Z] <midfavila-laptop> it's a dynamic variable that represents the first argument passed to the script
[2021-08-13T02:20:00Z] <kyxor> I know
[2021-08-13T02:20:12Z] <midfavila-laptop> ...then why did you ask?
[2021-08-13T02:20:13Z] <kyxor> but as all varibles they must be set somewhere
[2021-08-13T02:20:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> uh, it's set at invocation 
[2021-08-13T02:20:28Z] <kyxor> I need to know what sets this line in kiss DESTDIR="$pkg_dir/$1"
[2021-08-13T02:20:33Z] <midfavila-laptop> it's not set explicitly
[2021-08-13T02:20:38Z] <midfavila-laptop> $1 that is.
[2021-08-13T02:21:02Z] <midfavila-laptop> so if kiss is invoked as kiss build sdl2,
[2021-08-13T02:21:06Z] <midfavila-laptop> $1 is sdl2
[2021-08-13T02:21:58Z] <kyxor> ok 1 sec
[2021-08-13T02:24:19Z] <kyxor> okay so that's not what I want then ... 
[2021-08-13T02:24:34Z] <kyxor> how does kiss know to install packages to /usr ? 
[2021-08-13T02:24:43Z] <duplex> what kernel option is intel hda
[2021-08-13T02:24:52Z] <midfavila-laptop> look it up duplex
[2021-08-13T02:25:07Z] <midfavila-laptop> kyxor, kiss doesn't
[2021-08-13T02:25:17Z] <midfavila-laptop> it's determined by the configuration of packages
[2021-08-13T02:25:50Z] <duplex> I did and I couldn't find it
[2021-08-13T02:25:55Z] <duplex> I'll look at kerenl src
[2021-08-13T02:27:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> so if you run ./configuration --prefix=/usr, kiss installs the package to $XDG_HOMEDIR/kiss/bin/$pkg.tar.gz
[2021-08-13T02:27:29Z] <midfavila-laptop> or something to that effect
[2021-08-13T02:27:50Z] <midfavila-laptop> and then afaik it's just unpacked to the root dir
[2021-08-13T02:28:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> but I haven't looked at that particular bit in-deptch
[2021-08-13T02:28:05Z] <midfavila-laptop> depth*
[2021-08-13T02:29:08Z] <duplex> ok it's enabled
[2021-08-13T02:29:22Z] <duplex> however the card does not show up in the OS
[2021-08-13T02:29:30Z] <kyxor> it's weird, somehow DESTDIR determines where package gets installed, but how does something like "/root/.cache/kiss/proc/6103/pkg/package" tell the build script that it needs to use /usr
[2021-08-13T02:30:01Z] <midfavila-laptop> DESTDIR is passed to a makefile. kiss has nothing to do with it
[2021-08-13T02:30:16Z] <midfavila-laptop> and the build script, when it invokes configure, or uses install, will dump things under /usr
[2021-08-13T02:30:25Z] <midfavila-laptop> duplex have you checked lspci
[2021-08-13T02:30:55Z] <duplex> no
[2021-08-13T02:31:19Z] <midfavila-laptop> then you don't know if the kernel doesn't detect the card. you should always use lspci to check if hardware is detected
[2021-08-13T02:31:41Z] <midfavila-laptop> or lsusb if you're a savage that uses an external audio interface
[2021-08-13T02:32:09Z] <duplex> running lspci provides me with no useful info
[2021-08-13T02:32:21Z] <duplex> ah -l
[2021-08-13T02:32:27Z] <duplex> it shows up
[2021-08-13T02:32:53Z] <midfavila-laptop> can you manipulate it with alsamixer?
[2021-08-13T02:33:16Z] <duplex> ok cool this has moved to why does alsa not detect my card
[2021-08-13T02:33:17Z] <duplex> no
[2021-08-13T02:33:25Z] <midfavila-laptop> that's easy
[2021-08-13T02:33:37Z] <midfavila-laptop> i bet you have an hdmi interface, right?
[2021-08-13T02:33:41Z] <kyxor> I am trying to figure out what the hek dylan did with DESTDIR
[2021-08-13T02:33:43Z] <noocsharp> no, $1 is not the name of the package in build strips
[2021-08-13T02:33:45Z] <noocsharp> scripts
[2021-08-13T02:33:54Z] <noocsharp> it's the directory to treat as root
[2021-08-13T02:33:57Z] <noocsharp> so you install stuff to $1
[2021-08-13T02:34:03Z] <duplex> midfavila-laptop: wdym
[2021-08-13T02:34:12Z] <midfavila-laptop> ...do you have hdmi on your machine.
[2021-08-13T02:34:14Z] <duplex> yes
[2021-08-13T02:34:25Z] <midfavila-laptop> then alsa is probably treating it as the default sound device
[2021-08-13T02:34:36Z] <duplex> oh uh
[2021-08-13T02:34:39Z] <midfavila-laptop> try checking if you can change to your regular sound card with f6
[2021-08-13T02:34:59Z] <midfavila-laptop> should be labelled as a PCH
[2021-08-13T02:35:58Z] <duplex> f6 like the key?
[2021-08-13T02:36:02Z] <midfavila-laptop> yes.
[2021-08-13T02:36:08Z] <midfavila-laptop> from within alsamixer.
[2021-08-13T02:36:26Z] <duplex> oh alsamixer doesn't start let me get a log
[2021-08-13T02:36:36Z] <midfavila-laptop> odd
[2021-08-13T02:36:51Z] <midfavila-laptop> what does aplay -l tell you?
[2021-08-13T02:37:42Z] <kyxor> noocsharp: I am super confuzed right now
[2021-08-13T02:37:54Z] <noocsharp> about what specifically kyxor?
[2021-08-13T02:38:20Z] <kyxor> how this who DESTDIR shit works
[2021-08-13T02:38:25Z] <kyxor> whole*
[2021-08-13T02:39:01Z] <noocsharp> DESTDIR sets the directory which will be treated as root
[2021-08-13T02:39:26Z] <duplex> https://termbin.com/3kki8
[2021-08-13T02:39:28Z] <duplex> alsamixer log
[2021-08-13T02:39:30Z] <noocsharp> inside a kiss build script, you want to use $1 as DESTDIR
[2021-08-13T02:39:41Z] <kyxor> if I do echo "$DESTDIR" in build script it prints "/root/.cache/kiss/proc/6836/pkg/glslang" that makes no sense I am not installing it to "/root/.cache/kiss/proc/6836/pkg/glslang"
[2021-08-13T02:40:07Z] <duplex> https://termbin.com/fnj0
[2021-08-13T02:40:12Z] <duplex> aplay -l ^
[2021-08-13T02:40:31Z] <midfavila-laptop> huh... is your user in the audio group?
[2021-08-13T02:40:33Z] <noocsharp> yes, kiss uses a temporary directory to install things to, and makes a tarball out of this temporary directory
[2021-08-13T02:40:45Z] <kyxor> or echo "$1" prints the same things
[2021-08-13T02:40:48Z] <noocsharp> then with kiss install, it installs this tarball to the root directory
[2021-08-13T02:41:04Z] <noocsharp> this way it can keep track of which files belong to a package
[2021-08-13T02:41:06Z] <kyxor> ok it uses a temporary directory, but how does it know about /usr ? 
[2021-08-13T02:41:19Z] <noocsharp> it doesn't, unless you specify prefix
[2021-08-13T02:41:22Z] <duplex> I'm doing this from root but I can try it from a user in audio ground
[2021-08-13T02:41:25Z] <duplex> *group
[2021-08-13T02:41:26Z] <noocsharp> /usr/bin is linked to /bin
[2021-08-13T02:41:35Z] <noocsharp> or vice versa actually
[2021-08-13T02:41:54Z] <duplex> same output
[2021-08-13T02:41:55Z] <midfavila-laptop> no, root would have the same effect
[2021-08-13T02:42:01Z] <midfavila-laptop> check if /dev/snd exists
[2021-08-13T02:42:07Z] <kyxor> so what would I do if I want to install the package to say /tmp instead of /usr ? 
[2021-08-13T02:42:29Z] <duplex> it does
[2021-08-13T02:42:37Z] <noocsharp> then if your package has a prefix option, you set prefix to /tmp
[2021-08-13T02:42:47Z] <midfavila-laptop> and what device nodes are within it? what are the set bits?
[2021-08-13T02:42:56Z] <kyxor> how does it move from "/root/.cache/kiss/proc/6836/pkg/glslang" to /usr
[2021-08-13T02:43:10Z] <noocsharp> it doesn't move to /usr, it moves to /
[2021-08-13T02:43:13Z] <duplex> how do I check that
[2021-08-13T02:43:23Z] <noocsharp> the makefile probably installs to /usr by default, but this is package spicific
[2021-08-13T02:43:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> ls -lh
[2021-08-13T02:43:39Z] <midfavila-laptop> for reference you can use man to check how to use commands
[2021-08-13T02:43:48Z] <noocsharp> kiss install takes the tarball generated by kiss build (all the files to install to the system), and copies them to /
[2021-08-13T02:43:59Z] <midfavila-laptop> to be clear, you've followed the install guide, right duplex?
[2021-08-13T02:44:12Z] <noocsharp> s/all of the files installed to the system/all of the files installed by the package/
[2021-08-13T02:44:12Z] <cotangent> <noocsharp> kiss install takes the tarball generated by kiss build (all the files to install to the system), and copies them to /
[2021-08-13T02:44:43Z] <duplex> https://termbin.com/18ou
[2021-08-13T02:45:03Z] <kyxor> okay, I'll have to experiment a bit, thanks for help noocsharp.
[2021-08-13T02:45:14Z] <noocsharp> what are you trying to package?
[2021-08-13T02:45:17Z] <midfavila-laptop> 404 duplex
[2021-08-13T02:45:25Z] <noocsharp> i might be able to look at it and give you some pointers
[2021-08-13T02:45:46Z] <duplex> https://termbin.com/l8ou
[2021-08-13T02:45:57Z] <midfavila-laptop> hrm
[2021-08-13T02:45:57Z] <duplex> oops it was a l not a 1
[2021-08-13T02:46:10Z] <kyxor> noocsharp: nothing, I was just curious how it works, cause I know I don't fully understand it. A lot of implicit stuff is happening that I need to know
[2021-08-13T02:46:11Z] <midfavila-laptop> looks like it's not creating the device nodes
[2021-08-13T02:46:32Z] <midfavila-laptop> but yet it's still being detected by lspci...
[2021-08-13T02:46:34Z] <midfavila-laptop> strange\
[2021-08-13T02:46:39Z] <noocsharp> the source code is only a thousand lines
[2021-08-13T02:47:00Z] <midfavila-laptop> are you using a device manager duplex? like mdev or eudev?
[2021-08-13T02:47:07Z] <duplex> nope
[2021-08-13T02:47:16Z] <duplex> this is pretty much a plain kiss install
[2021-08-13T02:47:29Z] <midfavila-laptop> plain kiss uses mdev from bbox afaik
[2021-08-13T02:47:32Z] <duplex> I can send kiss list if you want
[2021-08-13T02:47:39Z] <midfavila-laptop> nah, that's fine
[2021-08-13T02:47:45Z] <duplex> uhhh it uses libudev-zero
[2021-08-13T02:47:56Z] <midfavila-laptop> ...oh, right, that changed recently
[2021-08-13T02:48:01Z] <kyxor> 2k lines more precise, but again it's not about kiss it's about what kiss->configure?(cmake)->make does the whole system
[2021-08-13T02:48:06Z] <midfavila-laptop> i don't use upstream kiss, i maintain my own base
[2021-08-13T02:48:27Z] <midfavila-laptop> if you're not using a device manager you might have to manually populate devfs. not sure.
[2021-08-13T02:48:42Z] <duplex> idk if libudev-zero counts as one 
[2021-08-13T02:48:46Z] <midfavila-laptop> it doesn't
[2021-08-13T02:48:50Z] <duplex> ah
[2021-08-13T02:49:05Z] <midfavila-laptop> it only provides udev-compatible libraries for programs like lspci and lsusb
[2021-08-13T02:49:22Z] <duplex> ah
[2021-08-13T02:50:50Z] <GalaxyNova> oh hi mid
[2021-08-13T02:55:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> hey gn
[2021-08-13T02:55:10Z] <midfavila-laptop> i saw your sdf was verified
[2021-08-13T02:55:17Z] <midfavila-laptop> how are you settling in?
[2021-08-13T02:55:28Z] <duplex> does anyone have a path they can send me down to fix my audio issue?
[2021-08-13T02:55:53Z] <GalaxyNova> it's great
[2021-08-13T02:56:02Z] <midfavila-laptop> you need to find a way to create device nodes, duplex
[2021-08-13T02:56:07Z] <GalaxyNova> trying to set up the email to work on the neomutt from my computer
[2021-08-13T02:56:18Z] <duplex> alright research time
[2021-08-13T02:56:20Z] <GalaxyNova> they only allow known hosts for smtp
[2021-08-13T02:56:59Z] <midfavila-laptop> what do you mean, "known hosts"?
[2021-08-13T02:57:17Z] <midfavila-laptop> afaik you only need an account that's verified
[2021-08-13T03:22:11Z] <GalaxyNova> midfavila-laptop: I tried setting it up and imap worked fine (i was able to access the emails) but I wasn't able to send any email
[2021-08-13T03:22:33Z] <GalaxyNova> asked around in com and apparently it only allows known hosts
[2021-08-13T03:22:43Z] <GalaxyNova> I am pretty unclear on that though
[2021-08-13T03:23:21Z] <midfavila-laptop> hmm
[2021-08-13T03:23:35Z] <midfavila-laptop> well, I just log in to sdf when I wanna check my mail
[2021-08-13T03:24:11Z] <acheam> needing internet to read emails? big cringe
[2021-08-13T03:24:53Z] <GalaxyNova> yes
[2021-08-13T03:24:58Z] <GalaxyNova> imagine using a web browser
[2021-08-13T03:29:42Z] <acheam> thats even worse
[2021-08-13T03:29:51Z] <acheam> im chiding him for using ssh
[2021-08-13T03:30:01Z] <acheam> or, knowing midfavila-laptop, likely telnet
[2021-08-13T03:30:26Z] <midfavila-laptop> telnet is only on dialup
[2021-08-13T03:30:43Z] <acheam> oh?
[2021-08-13T03:33:54Z] <midfavila-laptop> uses a little less bandwidth
[2021-08-13T03:33:59Z] <midfavila-laptop> so it's more usable
[2021-08-13T03:36:02Z] <acheam> oh you mean you only use it on telnet?
[2021-08-13T03:36:12Z] <acheam> I thought you were saying generally
[2021-08-13T03:36:19Z] <midfavila-laptop> correct
[2021-08-13T03:36:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> i use ssh when I can
[2021-08-13T03:36:29Z] <midfavila-laptop> telnet otherwise
[2021-08-13T03:37:19Z] <acheam> telnet is password-only right?
[2021-08-13T03:37:25Z] <midfavila-laptop> yes.
[2021-08-13T03:37:36Z] <acheam> hmm yeah I wouldn't want to expose that on my servers
[2021-08-13T03:37:56Z] * midfavila-laptop shrugs
[2021-08-13T03:38:00Z] <midfavila-laptop> it has its uses
[2021-08-13T03:48:54Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2021-08-13T03:49:18Z] <necromansy> hi
[2021-08-13T03:49:52Z] <acheam> hi
[2021-08-13T03:50:09Z] <duplex> hi
[2021-08-13T03:52:43Z] <duplex> midfavila-laptop: I figured it out. I needed to enable the realtek codec in addition to intel HDA
[2021-08-13T04:09:46Z] <kyxor> one more question that's been bugging me, how come I get files in .cache/kiss/proc when I am not using KISS_DEBUG, and those are just empty directories I think
[2021-08-13T04:10:33Z] <kyxor> like like is not cleaning up after itself for some reason
[2021-08-13T04:11:16Z] <acheam> hmm weird so you are left with dirs like ~/.cache/kiss/proc/93886
[2021-08-13T04:11:34Z] <acheam> thats odd
[2021-08-13T04:11:35Z] <acheam> kiss version?
[2021-08-13T04:12:27Z] <kyxor> 5.5.25
[2021-08-13T04:12:49Z] <GalaxyNova> same thing is happening to me for some reason
[2021-08-13T04:12:56Z] <GalaxyNova> it must be a bug in kiss
[2021-08-13T04:12:59Z] <GalaxyNova> someone make an issue
[2021-08-13T04:13:00Z] <acheam> yeah
[2021-08-13T04:13:01Z] <testuser[m]> Me too
[2021-08-13T04:13:03Z] <testuser[m]> In /tmp
[2021-08-13T04:13:08Z] <testuser[m]> but i don't get it often enougj
[2021-08-13T04:13:16Z] <acheam> time to do some git bisect-ing
[2021-08-13T04:14:23Z] <acheam> a little script with "git bisect run" that runs kiss 10 times and then checks for left behind dirs in a custom KISS_ROOT should find it quick
[2021-08-13T04:14:33Z] <acheam> and would only be a few lines of shell to implement
[2021-08-13T04:18:32Z] <kyxor> hmm i just got it to reproduce the bug once on some package, but now after trying again it stopped
[2021-08-13T04:22:48Z] <kyxor> so far I think it's random
[2021-08-13T04:30:25Z] <testuser[m]> Hi illiliti
[2021-08-13T04:43:45Z] <kyxor> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/issues/259
[2021-08-13T04:44:00Z] <kyxor> still trying to see if I can reliably reproduce
[2021-08-13T10:38:49Z] <riteo> hiiiiii!
[2021-08-13T10:39:19Z] <testuser[m]> hi
[2021-08-13T10:52:02Z] <riteo> wait are we sure heredocs arent bashism
[2021-08-13T10:52:15Z] <riteo> I'm looking at the open group base specification and I can't find anything regarding them
[2021-08-13T10:52:34Z] <testuser[m]> they're not bruh
[2021-08-13T10:52:44Z] <testuser[m]> used in a ton of places
[2021-08-13T10:52:47Z] <riteo> oh nvm I found them
[2021-08-13T10:52:51Z] <testuser[m]> well even bashisms are but shellcheck doesnt complain
[2021-08-13T10:55:12Z] <riteo> oh now I get how those can make some functions neater
[2021-08-13T10:55:20Z] <riteo> really cool stuff
[2021-08-13T10:58:42Z] <riteo> oh <<- only accounts for tab indentation
[2021-08-13T10:58:52Z] <riteo> based tab indentation rules once again
[2021-08-13T10:59:07Z] <testuser[m]> wdym
[2021-08-13T10:59:15Z] <riteo> it strips tabs
[2021-08-13T10:59:19Z] <riteo> from the input
[2021-08-13T10:59:24Z] <testuser[m]> isnt that bad
[2021-08-13T10:59:29Z] <riteo> not for json
[2021-08-13T10:59:42Z] <testuser[m]> << or <<- only
[2021-08-13T10:59:51Z] <riteo> <<- only
[2021-08-13T11:00:03Z] <testuser[m]> hmm
[2021-08-13T11:06:12Z] <schillingklaus> mksh also knows some kind of heredocs
[2021-08-13T11:06:28Z] <riteo> ok heredocs are pretty nice but how do I pipe a command with an heredoc to another one
[2021-08-13T11:07:41Z] <riteo> oh I think I got it
[2021-08-13T11:08:56Z] <testuser[m]> cmd << EOF | cmd
[2021-08-13T11:09:35Z] <riteo> yep that seems to work
[2021-08-13T11:09:38Z] <riteo> thanks
[2021-08-13T11:10:07Z] <testuser[m]> np
[2021-08-13T11:35:49Z] <testuser[m]> acheam you're on openbsd right now right
[2021-08-13T11:48:10Z] <schillingklaus> acheam hasn't been here in many minutes
[2021-08-13T11:49:19Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> yup, 6 hours ago
[2021-08-13T12:37:05Z] <riteo> gtg, cya later!
[2021-08-13T13:52:41Z] <micro_O> interesting https://packaging-con.org/
[2021-08-13T14:27:49Z] <acheam> testuser[m]: yes
[2021-08-13T14:31:44Z] <testuser[m]> acheam can you see if typing in a bunch of wide characters and then deleting them works fine ?
[2021-08-13T14:31:47Z] <testuser[m]> Emojis and stuff
[2021-08-13T14:33:32Z] <acheam> most of openbsd doesnt support Unicode
[2021-08-13T14:34:08Z] <testuser[m]> I tried oksh and it miscalculated the width which led to segfaults, but it's an old  port so dunno if the issue is there in real ksh
[2021-08-13T14:34:12Z] <testuser[m]> Why doesn't it ?
[2021-08-13T14:34:47Z] <acheam>  idk it just doesnt
[2021-08-13T14:34:57Z] <acheam> not a priority
[2021-08-13T14:35:20Z] <acheam> gtk and stuff have it ofc
[2021-08-13T14:35:26Z] <acheam> just not the base system
[2021-08-13T14:36:17Z] <schillingklaus> i do not want emojis of any kind and sort in any program
[2021-08-13T14:37:11Z] <schillingklaus> netbsd doesn't support unicode, either
[2021-08-13T14:44:24Z] <akira01> hi guys
[2021-08-13T14:44:32Z] <akira01> anyone solved firefox vaapi?
[2021-08-13T14:45:07Z] <testuser[m]> Did you read the wiki page for ff
[2021-08-13T14:45:25Z] <akira01> yeah
[2021-08-13T14:46:00Z] <akira01> but i did it a weeks 
[2021-08-13T14:46:16Z] <akira01> And GalaxyNova did not works for he too
[2021-08-13T14:46:34Z] <testuser[m]> Make a shithub issue
[2021-08-13T14:46:40Z] <testuser[m]> on kisslinux/repo
[2021-08-13T14:46:43Z] <akira01> Okay
[2021-08-13T14:46:51Z] <schillingklaus> ff is beyond repair
[2021-08-13T14:48:40Z] <acheam> I don't think ive seen schillingklaus say anything positive ever
[2021-08-13T14:49:22Z] <claudia02> akira01: do you know how to verifiy that vaapi works in the first place?
[2021-08-13T14:50:09Z] <testuser[m]> What browser do you use schillingklaus
[2021-08-13T14:51:00Z] <claudia02> reword: have you verified that vaapi works in the first place?
[2021-08-13T14:51:53Z] <akira01> Someone tell me to use a mozillas test to verify webgl
[2021-08-13T14:51:57Z] <schillingklaus> testuser: luakit
[2021-08-13T14:52:43Z] <schillingklaus> one of the few browsers with js support that can be operated with out mouse, if the sites's js is not too crappy
[2021-08-13T14:53:25Z] <claudia02> akira01: I would start small and check vaapi with e.g mpv first.
[2021-08-13T14:53:57Z] <claudia02> Have a read here which vaapi stuff you need for your hardware. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Vaapi
[2021-08-13T14:54:05Z] <akira01> Okay
[2021-08-13T14:54:06Z] <schillingklaus> unfortunately, like most gtk3 based stuff, it uses that creep called dbus...
[2021-08-13T14:55:40Z] <claudia02> There is a startup option for firefox, which enables verbose terminal logging, but I cant find it right now. It would tell you very clearly there if vaapi is in use or if theres a problem.
[2021-08-13T15:22:50Z] <duplex> I come bearing new issues. alsa recognizes my sound card (there is only one) however there is no sound (i've made sure my volume is up in alsamixer)
[2021-08-13T15:22:56Z] <duplex> I'm testing with speaker-test
[2021-08-13T15:28:06Z] <soliwilos> duplex: The master channel could be muted, dislayed with "MM" in alsamixer. Press 'm' to toggle mute status.
[2021-08-13T15:28:46Z] <duplex> istg
[2021-08-13T15:28:48Z] <duplex> that was it
[2021-08-13T15:28:53Z] <duplex> I feel stupid now
[2021-08-13T15:28:58Z] <duplex> thanks
[2021-08-13T15:30:51Z] <soliwilos> No problem. :)
[2021-08-13T15:38:31Z] <acheam> its a confusing graphic
[2021-08-13T16:45:27Z] <Erus_Iluvatar> duplex: don't feel stupid, everything set to muted is ALSA's default
[2021-08-13T16:56:32Z] <duplex> has anyone gotten foot to have correct spacing with ttf-croscore?
[2021-08-13T17:40:02Z] <noocsharp> schillingklaus types are the problem: they complain about everything and attempt to solve nothing
[2021-08-13T17:57:33Z] <testuser[m]> ^
[2021-08-13T19:22:54Z] <duplex> anyone gotten foot to have correct spacing with ttf-croscore?
[2021-08-13T19:45:29Z] <m3g> can't seem to build qemu https://0x0.st/-JGH.txt
[2021-08-13T19:46:33Z] <m3g> oh, jedav aint here
[2021-08-13T19:51:38Z] <soliwilos> duplex: Try setting Cousine-Regular as the font in foot.ini.
[2021-08-13T19:52:15Z] <soliwilos> It's one of the fonts in the ttf-croscore package, seems to work.
[2021-08-13T20:02:21Z] <acheam> phoebos: did you take down your irc logs?
[2021-08-13T20:03:38Z] <phoebos[m]> i hope not :|
[2021-08-13T20:04:01Z] <phoebos[m]> yep, they're still there
[2021-08-13T20:04:42Z] <phoebos[m]> although im in the (slow) process of migrating onto bvnf.space
[2021-08-13T20:18:03Z] <acheam> uh link?
[2021-08-13T20:18:10Z] <acheam> nice