[2022-10-05T00:45:06Z] <midfavila> >mfw autotools expects the system's implementation of cat to only ever be unbuffered 
[2022-10-05T00:45:18Z] <midfavila> *all* they had to do was specify -u
[2022-10-05T01:11:19Z] <Torr> Lol
[2022-10-05T01:11:23Z] <Torr> Where's that from
[2022-10-05T01:11:25Z] <Torr> ?
[2022-10-05T01:15:46Z] <midfavila> where's what from? the -u option, my complaint, or..?
[2022-10-05T01:16:19Z] <midfavila> btw, phoebos, to add to our conversation a little while ago about athena,
[2022-10-05T01:16:23Z] <midfavila> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/system/!INDEX.short.html
[2022-10-05T01:16:31Z] <midfavila> there are a number of athena-based programs here, if you ever wanted to look 
[2022-10-05T01:16:44Z] <midfavila> i've only explored the status directory thus far
[2022-10-05T01:21:37Z] <Torr> The error msg.
[2022-10-05T01:21:49Z] <midfavila> oh
[2022-10-05T01:22:04Z] <midfavila> it fails to generate config.status when the system's cat implementation buffers output
[2022-10-05T01:22:11Z] <midfavila> or, at least, it throws that error
[2022-10-05T01:26:20Z] <Torr> Generator build systems tend to bring those problems =P
[2022-10-05T02:29:03Z] <rohan> has anyone tested river?
[2022-10-05T02:29:12Z] <rohan> is it better than sway?
[2022-10-05T02:53:18Z] <wael[m]> I would say try dwl
[2022-10-05T03:10:05Z] <rohan> is more "lightweight" ?
[2022-10-05T03:10:26Z] <wael[m]> obviously, as it isn't written in Zig
[2022-10-05T03:27:26Z] <Torr> Leaving here, see y'll.
[2022-10-05T03:30:28Z] <sereg> was gonna make a westfold joke as gondor but couldn't figure out how to relate it to WMs 
[2022-10-05T03:33:57Z] <wael[m]> just say it
[2022-10-05T04:01:25Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2022-10-05T04:25:04Z] <wael[m]> Hi
[2022-10-05T07:30:57Z] <sad_plan> o/
[2022-10-05T07:34:16Z] <wael[m]> \o
[2022-10-05T08:03:04Z] <virutalmachineus> o/
[2022-10-05T08:22:39Z] <testuser[m]> phoebos: https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/kiss/commit/4386cf1c96f7aa5053d8249b795acc8cbfa38872 ?
[2022-10-05T09:52:45Z] <phoebos> testuser[m]: nice one
[2022-10-05T09:52:53Z] <phoebos> you could use equ rather than [ though
[2022-10-05T09:54:29Z] <phoebos> midfavila: ooh thanks. always interested in more athena programs
[2022-10-05T10:50:05Z] <testuser[m]> https://codeberg.org/dnkl/fuzzel
[2022-10-05T11:23:10Z] <wael[m]> personally I would use fzy with a scratchpad terminal
[2022-10-05T14:53:31Z] <midfavila> phoebos, same 
[2022-10-05T14:54:00Z] <midfavila> there's very few athena programs that seems to be both of real use and small enough to understand and learn from
[2022-10-05T14:54:03Z] <midfavila> it's unfortunate
[2022-10-05T14:54:27Z] <midfavila> speaking of, 
[2022-10-05T14:54:46Z] <midfavila> could you guys keep an eye out for ancient versions of aewm? it apparently used xaw once upon a time
[2022-10-05T16:27:36Z] <wael[m]> til toybox is incompatible with kisslinux init scripts
[2022-10-05T16:27:50Z] <testuser[m]> send
[2022-10-05T16:28:02Z] <wael[m]> send what
[2022-10-05T16:30:07Z] <testuser[m]> L o g
[2022-10-05T16:31:33Z] <wael[m]> how
[2022-10-05T16:33:24Z] <wael[m]> rc.boot line 10 toybox warn, line 57 broken option (fsck is 'unstable' in toybox), line 70 fail to remount, line 74, -a doesn't exist
[2022-10-05T16:33:40Z] <testuser[m]> Send
[2022-10-05T16:33:42Z] <testuser[m]> Screenshot
[2022-10-05T16:34:09Z] <wael[m]> give me a momeny
[2022-10-05T16:42:00Z] * wael[m] uploaded an image: (234KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/JdVBAtKgiPkotYvHyLlPzlUL/LMC8.4_20221005_194125_PX3_LMC_FINAL%20nfr%20uwversion.jpg >
[2022-10-05T16:42:28Z] <wael[m]> phoebos @phoebos:libera.chat: illiliti: sad_plan: 
[2022-10-05T16:55:29Z] <illiliti> that's expected
[2022-10-05T16:56:36Z] <illiliti> https://github.com/landley/toybox/blob/master/toys/lsb/mount.c#L71-L88
[2022-10-05T16:58:13Z] <wael[m]> mount -a isn't a real flag?
[2022-10-05T16:58:33Z] <wael[m]> and if that's true, then the same is for swapon?
[2022-10-05T16:59:08Z] <sad_plan> mount -a mounts everything in fstab
[2022-10-05T16:59:22Z] <sad_plan> swapon -a is the same
[2022-10-05T17:00:05Z] <wael[m]> swapon -a in toybox doesn't exist
[2022-10-05T17:00:24Z] <sad_plan> no, but thats what it should do
[2022-10-05T17:00:56Z] <illiliti> use util-linux. toybox is incomplete and barely usable
[2022-10-05T17:02:02Z] <sad_plan> also, fsck -a on toybox doesnt exist. so youd have to patch out the -a
[2022-10-05T17:02:19Z] <sad_plan> so fsck -ATt instead of -AaTt
[2022-10-05T17:02:34Z] <wael[m]> if I were to do that I'd use ubase, I tried out toybox purely only for 2 or 5 programs that have features that aren't in sbase
[2022-10-05T17:02:48Z] <wael[m]> sad_plan: that is what I did, I reverted it for the picture
[2022-10-05T17:04:14Z] <illiliti> i'm not sure that toybox fsck will work at all. it is essentially stubbed
[2022-10-05T17:04:42Z] <sad_plan> dilyn used it, so it does work
[2022-10-05T17:08:13Z] <illiliti> ok
[2022-10-05T17:08:49Z] <illiliti> i think mount fails because https://github.com/landley/toybox/blob/master/toys/lsb/mount.c#L79
[2022-10-05T17:09:51Z] <wael[m]> it remounts fine but fails at mount -a no?
[2022-10-05T17:10:27Z] <sad_plan> iirc, mount -a fails, but its a non-fatal error though
[2022-10-05T17:10:46Z] <wael[m]> still causes the boot process to be interrupted lol
[2022-10-05T17:11:33Z] <sad_plan> it does. really annoying. could just pass || continue though
[2022-10-05T17:12:29Z] <wael[m]> my swap tho :(
[2022-10-05T17:12:35Z] <sad_plan> I did that earlier on a project, and it did work
[2022-10-05T17:12:49Z] <sad_plan> youd have to specify the swap partition manually
[2022-10-05T17:12:54Z] <sad_plan> instead of swapon -a
[2022-10-05T17:12:58Z] <sad_plan> that also works
[2022-10-05T17:13:19Z] <wael[m]> its a swapfile
[2022-10-05T17:13:19Z] <wael[m]> oh yeah true
[2022-10-05T17:13:19Z] <wael[m]> bit of a hassle isn't it
[2022-10-05T17:14:48Z] <sad_plan> sure, but you could just make bootscript to enable it instead
[2022-10-05T17:15:15Z] <wael[m]> boot hook you mean?
[2022-10-05T17:15:18Z] <sad_plan> yeah
[2022-10-05T17:15:41Z] <wael[m]> well boot hooks are executed after swapon is initiated so
[2022-10-05T17:16:11Z] <wael[m]> if I'm going to modify the init scripts I might as well just override them as well
[2022-10-05T17:16:11Z] <wael[m]> will need also a ||continue I guess
[2022-10-05T17:20:08Z] <sad_plan> wael[m]:  this works https://github.com/hovercats/kiss-somethingsomethingstatic/blob/refactor/core/baselayout/files/rc.init
[2022-10-05T17:20:15Z] <sad_plan> its what I used when messing with toybox
[2022-10-05T17:20:30Z] <wael[m]> do you even still use toybox?
[2022-10-05T17:21:08Z] <sad_plan> not atm no, but at some time, Ive been using it, yes
[2022-10-05T17:21:25Z] <wael[m]> how was it
[2022-10-05T17:21:47Z] <wael[m]> and what did you switch to afterwards
[2022-10-05T17:21:48Z] <wael[m]> I assume busybox lol
[2022-10-05T17:22:40Z] <sad_plan> busybox yes, as I completly borked my system at one point
[2022-10-05T17:27:49Z] <sad_plan> ip also doesnt work btw, if you didnt already notice..
[2022-10-05T17:32:01Z] <sad_plan> is there any requirements for calling the shutdown init script?
[2022-10-05T17:32:26Z] <sad_plan> cant I just call it in a script or something?
[2022-10-05T17:33:54Z] <midfavila> speaking of low-level applications/high-level systems programming,
[2022-10-05T17:34:16Z] <midfavila> if any of you guys were interested in learning about it, I've been reading a book simply called "Unix: The Textbook" recently
[2022-10-05T17:34:55Z] <midfavila> purports to offer a complete introduction to the use and programming of unix systems, including csh, bash, python, C, the use of sockets, etc
[2022-10-05T17:35:19Z] <midfavila> also discusses the use of debuggers and such, among other common dev tools
[2022-10-05T17:35:34Z] <sad_plan> that does sound interesting indeed
[2022-10-05T17:35:43Z] * midfavila nod-nods
[2022-10-05T17:36:05Z] <midfavila> it covers PC-BSD and Solaris, though, which is a little unusual for a book published in 2016
[2022-10-05T17:36:22Z] <midfavila> still, the book seems to have both breadth and depth
[2022-10-05T17:36:30Z] <midfavila> ~1200ish pages
[2022-10-05T17:37:01Z] <wael[m]> sad_plan: if ip is literally broken I'm going to switch back to ubase
[2022-10-05T17:37:13Z] <midfavila> suckless doesn't provide ip or ifconfig
[2022-10-05T17:37:24Z] <wael[m]> wait wtf what did theb
[2022-10-05T17:37:25Z] <wael[m]> then
[2022-10-05T17:37:27Z] <wael[m]> or what does
[2022-10-05T17:37:28Z] <midfavila> busybox probably
[2022-10-05T17:37:32Z] <midfavila> i use net-tools 
[2022-10-05T17:37:33Z] <wael[m]> true 
[2022-10-05T17:37:47Z] <midfavila> yeah so like
[2022-10-05T17:37:47Z] <wael[m]> what's net-tools
[2022-10-05T17:37:49Z] <midfavila> oh
[2022-10-05T17:37:58Z] <midfavila> net-tools is the original distribution of internetworking utilities for linux
[2022-10-05T17:38:03Z] <midfavila> predates iputils 
[2022-10-05T17:38:09Z] <midfavila> (I don't like ip)
[2022-10-05T17:38:14Z] <sad_plan> or just use iproute2 or something
[2022-10-05T17:38:25Z] <wael[m]> hmmmm
[2022-10-05T17:38:46Z] <wael[m]> the only reason I switched to toybox is literally no `ls` colors lol
[2022-10-05T17:38:54Z] <midfavila> okay but 
[2022-10-05T17:39:01Z] <midfavila> that's a superfluous feature
[2022-10-05T17:39:38Z] <wael[m]> what's superfluous
[2022-10-05T17:39:40Z] <sad_plan> I mean, colors is nice, so its easier to differentiate different files, but still. its not detrimental. im fine without it imo
[2022-10-05T17:39:51Z] <wael[m]> I CANNOT go without it
[2022-10-05T17:39:52Z] <midfavila> wael[m], unnecessary or excessive
[2022-10-05T17:39:59Z] <midfavila> see dict(1)
[2022-10-05T17:40:00Z] <wael[m]> I need colors or I'll become emotionless and dreadful
[2022-10-05T17:40:14Z] <wael[m]> is that a real man page 
[2022-10-05T17:40:19Z] <midfavila> uh, yes
[2022-10-05T17:40:24Z] <midfavila> dict(1) is a DICT client 
[2022-10-05T17:40:29Z] <midfavila> fetches definitions for words
[2022-10-05T17:40:33Z] <wael[m]> not for me
[2022-10-05T17:40:38Z] <midfavila> install dict then
[2022-10-05T17:40:52Z] <wael[m]> not found
[2022-10-05T17:41:19Z] <midfavila> packaged as dictd in my repos, maybe someone else has their own package
[2022-10-05T17:43:00Z] <midfavila> anyway for what it's worth, you could probably patch sbase ls to display colors pretty easily
[2022-10-05T17:44:44Z] <wael[m]> forgot to mention sbase kinda breaks with big packages I need
[2022-10-05T17:44:45Z] <wael[m]> notably sed lol
[2022-10-05T17:44:56Z] <wael[m]> also missing -v flags in cp rm ln which are for verbosity
[2022-10-05T17:45:31Z] <wael[m]> I do not track my $? all the time so I got confused why stuff didn't work, but -v tells me what went wrong
[2022-10-05T17:45:36Z] <sad_plan> what features from sed is missing? besides -i, but its not posix so its not unexpected that its missing
[2022-10-05T17:47:03Z] <wael[m]> last time I've seen an error is missing sed functions
[2022-10-05T17:47:17Z] <wael[m]> it is also impossible to compile toybox from an sbase system
[2022-10-05T17:47:35Z] <sad_plan> probably because toybox targets gnu compability. 
[2022-10-05T17:47:39Z] <sad_plan> and sbase targets posix
[2022-10-05T17:48:06Z] <sad_plan> so theyre not really aligned target wise. which is sortof also why Im choosing to not use toybox. I dont care for gnu tools
[2022-10-05T17:48:20Z] <sad_plan> hence me checking out other projects
[2022-10-05T17:48:44Z] <wael[m]> fair
[2022-10-05T17:48:44Z] <wael[m]> testuser: 
[2022-10-05T17:54:43Z] <wael[m]> I also sort of gave up with the POSIX shell patch for toybox because I couldn't get one line and one line only right
[2022-10-05T17:55:06Z] <sad_plan> which line was that?
[2022-10-05T17:55:46Z] <wael[m]> its in scripts/make.sh where it tries to compare the configuration file newer than this that yada yada
[2022-10-05T17:55:51Z] <wael[m]> the original POSIX patch for toybox didn't work for some reason
[2022-10-05T17:56:14Z] <sad_plan> ah, yeah I had issues with that aswell
[2022-10-05T17:56:21Z] <wael[m]> line 275
[2022-10-05T17:56:42Z] <sad_plan> that because since that has been created, toybox has changed drastically. the patch is getting rather old
[2022-10-05T17:56:55Z] <wael[m]> yeah lol
[2022-10-05T17:56:58Z] <wael[m]> it works fine in local but not in a clean state like in kiss build
[2022-10-05T17:57:03Z] <wael[m]> yeah I updated it somewhat
[2022-10-05T17:57:41Z] <wael[m]> its just THAT ONE line
[2022-10-05T17:57:42Z] <wael[m]> that one line has been unchanged since the POSIX patch so its a bit confusing 
[2022-10-05T17:57:43Z] <sad_plan> I actually tried to cheat my way out of if by using only the updated .c files, but to no avail. it didnt build 
[2022-10-05T17:57:53Z] <sad_plan> then I dunno. 
[2022-10-05T17:58:08Z] <wael[m]> funkybox
[2022-10-05T18:03:40Z] <midfavila> sad_plan, if you're looking for POSIX userland tools, I'm (slowly) working on a collection of them right now
[2022-10-05T18:04:03Z] <midfavila> goals are SUS compatibility and ease of maintenance over performance or GNU compatibility
[2022-10-05T18:04:23Z] <sad_plan> im interested. im currently eying sbase, k9core, and baseutils, the openbsd port
[2022-10-05T18:04:44Z] <midfavila> i can only speak to sbase; with minimal supplementation, it works quite nicely
[2022-10-05T18:04:57Z] <sad_plan> however, right now im trying to figure out how I can properly call the rc.shutdown script. calling it manually, or via a script, does not seem to work for some reason..
[2022-10-05T18:05:29Z] <sad_plan> yeah, sbase seems fine, but I would like something else, just for the sake of choosing something else, but im initially fine with sbase. its simple enough, and works
[2022-10-05T18:05:54Z] <sad_plan> thus baseutils and k9core. I also looked at phoebos' bore repo, but it doesnt contain alot of utils yet
[2022-10-05T18:06:23Z] <midfavila> m{e,p,u}-utils is pretty barren at the moment too
[2022-10-05T18:06:41Z] <midfavila> my systems programming knowledge and computer science knowledge are both too limited for me to handle more than the most basic of coreutils
[2022-10-05T18:07:04Z] <midfavila> hoping that book i mentioned earlier will get me up to the point of being able to write some more programs
[2022-10-05T18:07:38Z] <sad_plan> yeah.. 
[2022-10-05T18:08:03Z] <midfavila> still need to finish echo at some point too
[2022-10-05T18:08:16Z] <midfavila> SUS mandates that you be able to octal escape characters
[2022-10-05T18:08:44Z] <sad_plan> I was planing on figuring this stuff out, and then *lock* myself to this setup, aslong as it actually works, and get started on actually learning programming. I got a fairly ok workflow these days.
[2022-10-05T18:08:49Z] <sad_plan> what is SUS?
[2022-10-05T18:08:57Z] <midfavila> the Single UNIX Specification
[2022-10-05T18:09:00Z] <sad_plan> aah
[2022-10-05T18:09:06Z] <midfavila> it's an extension to POSIX necessary to attain UNIX certification
[2022-10-05T18:09:32Z] <midfavila> unlike POSIX, it *does* specify things like UI, and some utilities work differently
[2022-10-05T18:10:19Z] <sad_plan> I belive Ive actually heard of that someplace. maybe from you. I dont recall
[2022-10-05T18:10:25Z] <midfavila> probably me
[2022-10-05T18:10:36Z] <midfavila> idk if many people these days care about SUS
[2022-10-05T18:10:41Z] <sad_plan> yeah, most likely you :P
[2022-10-05T18:11:35Z] <wael[m]> what's k9core?
[2022-10-05T18:12:11Z] <sad_plan> its a minimal coreutilites
[2022-10-05T18:12:14Z] <sad_plan> ill fetch the link
[2022-10-05T18:12:26Z] <midfavila> their ls also lacks colors
[2022-10-05T18:12:30Z] <midfavila> just so you know
[2022-10-05T18:12:31Z] <midfavila> :P 
[2022-10-05T18:13:07Z] <sad_plan> https://git.bvnf.space/k9core/log.html
[2022-10-05T18:13:24Z] <sad_plan> phoebos' fork. the upstream doesnt have any updates that his doesnt
[2022-10-05T18:13:32Z] <sad_plan> midfavila: lol
[2022-10-05T18:13:33Z] <wael[m]> so does baseutils too
[2022-10-05T18:13:34Z] <wael[m]> fycj
[2022-10-05T18:13:34Z] <wael[m]> fuck
[2022-10-05T18:13:52Z] <sad_plan> why do you even need these colors anyway?
[2022-10-05T18:14:01Z] <sad_plan> why are they so important?
[2022-10-05T18:14:04Z] <wael[m]> is there seriously no coreutils that has ls colors
[2022-10-05T18:14:11Z] <midfavila> not many
[2022-10-05T18:14:14Z] <wael[m]> its a convenience
[2022-10-05T18:14:18Z] <midfavila> like I said, it's kind of a superfluous feature
[2022-10-05T18:14:21Z] <midfavila> not important
[2022-10-05T18:14:28Z] <wael[m]> I can suffice it for a little indicator in text 
[2022-10-05T18:14:33Z] <wael[m]> similar to 9base
[2022-10-05T18:16:06Z] <sad_plan> what, k9core is strange. ls with no flags or dirs, will just output nothing
[2022-10-05T18:16:10Z] <sad_plan> thats unexpected
[2022-10-05T18:16:53Z] <wael[m]> bruh thats worse than no colors
[2022-10-05T18:17:22Z] <midfavila> yeah, k9 is... 
[2022-10-05T18:17:28Z] <midfavila> ...bad?
[2022-10-05T18:17:32Z] <midfavila> mediocre?
[2022-10-05T18:17:36Z] <midfavila> sub-optimal.
[2022-10-05T18:17:58Z] <phoebos> i wouldn't use k9core
[2022-10-05T18:18:02Z] <wael[m]> so why is it on the watchlist
[2022-10-05T18:18:02Z] <midfavila> I can't fault them for trying, but at least parse your arguments properly
[2022-10-05T18:18:12Z] <phoebos> it was educational at best
[2022-10-05T18:18:27Z] <sad_plan> hm, ok, ill scratch that from the list then :p
[2022-10-05T18:18:45Z] <midfavila> you don't have many options for coreutils if you expect ls to output in color
[2022-10-05T18:18:51Z] <midfavila> it's like
[2022-10-05T18:18:55Z] <midfavila> GNU and Busybox
[2022-10-05T18:18:57Z] <midfavila> and that's it
[2022-10-05T18:19:25Z] <wael[m]> toybox.
[2022-10-05T18:19:37Z] <midfavila> toybox isn't complete
[2022-10-05T18:19:39Z] <wael[m]> like come on its such a basic feature!!
[2022-10-05T18:19:39Z] <sad_plan> phoebos: I noticed you forked baseutils. were you planing on doing anything more with it? I noticed you fixed the fcommon stuff
[2022-10-05T18:19:41Z] <wael[m]> true
[2022-10-05T18:19:58Z] <midfavila> oh
[2022-10-05T18:20:00Z] <wael[m]> phoebos is aabacuss?
[2022-10-05T18:20:04Z] <sad_plan> yes
[2022-10-05T18:20:07Z] <midfavila> i suppose i should mention my other goal for my utils:
[2022-10-05T18:20:19Z] <wael[m]> makes sense
[2022-10-05T18:20:20Z] <midfavila> compile without errors under tcc and cproc
[2022-10-05T18:20:28Z] <midfavila> and pass SPLint checks
[2022-10-05T18:20:40Z] <phoebos> sad_plan: just that fix. otherwise, use openbsd
[2022-10-05T18:20:57Z] <wael[m]> midfavila: what is SPLint
[2022-10-05T18:20:57Z] <sad_plan> ah ok
[2022-10-05T18:21:03Z] <phoebos> gotta plug https://git.bvnf.space/bore
[2022-10-05T18:21:11Z] <wael[m]> a shellcheck for C?
[2022-10-05T18:21:16Z] <midfavila> wael[m], SPLint is an extension to the traditional lint utility
[2022-10-05T18:21:17Z] <wael[m]> does it have ls
[2022-10-05T18:21:21Z] <midfavila> wael[m], yes, basically
[2022-10-05T18:21:29Z] <midfavila> it's capable of both static and dynamic analysis
[2022-10-05T18:21:39Z] <sad_plan> phoebos: yeah, I did notice that one. but its not very complete :p
[2022-10-05T18:21:39Z] <wael[m]> oo interesting
[2022-10-05T18:21:51Z] <sad_plan> atleast lacks alot of utils
[2022-10-05T18:21:55Z] <midfavila> it's also not much slower than regular lint, even with dynanal
[2022-10-05T18:22:11Z] <midfavila> the downside is that the way that it works requires you learn a DSL 
[2022-10-05T18:22:34Z] <midfavila> need to manually annotate regions for checking to happen outside of static analysis
[2022-10-05T18:23:02Z] <wael[m]> midfavila: remove dyn from dynanal
[2022-10-05T18:23:13Z] <midfavila> wow that's so fucking hilarious and clever
[2022-10-05T18:23:19Z] <midfavila> original sex joke
[2022-10-05T18:23:23Z] <midfavila> *very funny*
[2022-10-05T18:23:27Z] <wael[m]> yes I'm so funyn
[2022-10-05T18:25:43Z] <testuser[m]> Bruh is this SPLint thing something that's been dead since 2010 
[2022-10-05T18:26:07Z] <midfavila> ...no?
[2022-10-05T18:26:40Z] <midfavila> https://github.com/splintchecker/splint
[2022-10-05T18:26:42Z] <testuser[m]> send
[2022-10-05T18:26:43Z] <midfavila> last commit was 2021
[2022-10-05T18:27:05Z] <midfavila> anyway, the idea of a "dead" program is one I object to
[2022-10-05T18:27:12Z] <midfavila> well-written programs stand the test of time
[2022-10-05T18:27:35Z] <testuser[m]> Yeah I saw that repo but that's like 10 commits
[2022-10-05T18:27:57Z] <midfavila> 768, but what's almost two orders of magnitude between friends
[2022-10-05T18:28:34Z] <testuser[m]> 18 commits since 2012
[2022-10-05T18:29:01Z] <midfavila> and?
[2022-10-05T18:29:52Z] <testuser[m]> clang-tidy
[2022-10-05T18:31:18Z] <midfavila> i'm not installing llvm and clang just to lint my C programs
[2022-10-05T18:31:30Z] <midfavila> and, anyway, neither is an option for me
[2022-10-05T18:37:27Z] <testuser[m]> cppcheck?
[2022-10-05T18:39:26Z] <midfavila> if it's C++, it's not an option
[2022-10-05T18:58:13Z] <dilyn> wael[m]: https://github.com/dilyn-corner/KISS-me/blob/main/core/baseinit/patches/toybox.patch
[2022-10-05T19:10:14Z] <testuser[m]> Should baseinit mount cgroups?
[2022-10-05T19:10:17Z] <testuser[m]> https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/community/src/branch/main/community/docker/files/run
[2022-10-05T19:13:11Z] <dilyn> probably
[2022-10-05T19:13:48Z] <illiliti> my kernel doesn't have cgroups
[2022-10-05T19:14:02Z] <testuser[m]> if supported 
[2022-10-05T19:14:02Z] <testuser[m]> only then
[2022-10-05T19:14:13Z] <illiliti> ok
[2022-10-05T19:15:34Z] <testuser[m]> illiliti: can u check the KISS chroot pr once 
[2022-10-05T19:15:46Z] <testuser[m]> mkre
[2022-10-05T19:15:51Z] <testuser[m]> more*
[2022-10-05T19:16:31Z] <testuser[m]> I made a change to not rerun as root if already root
[2022-10-05T19:31:13Z] <illiliti> looks fine. do i need to run it?
[2022-10-05T19:34:01Z] <testuser[m]> No
[2022-10-05T19:34:09Z] <testuser[m]> It's tested
[2022-10-05T19:35:22Z] <illiliti> ok
[2022-10-05T19:48:25Z] <phoebos> sad_plan: yea, I'm making slow progress :p
[2022-10-05T19:49:06Z] <phoebos> but they're POSIX, all of it, and no more
[2022-10-05T19:50:41Z] <testuser[m]> https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/kiss/pulls/62#issuecomment-634486
[2022-10-05T22:49:20Z] <saturn[m]> hello everyone