[2023-10-11T06:08:42Z] <sewn> Guest59: already kiss using samurai
[2023-10-11T09:08:45Z] <alphacentauri> hello everyone
[2023-10-11T09:08:55Z] <alphacentauri> vova: hello
[2023-10-11T09:09:02Z] <alphacentauri> dear lord 
[2023-10-11T09:11:28Z] <vova> hi
[2023-10-11T09:12:14Z] <alphacentauri> you see what  you did ?
[2023-10-11T09:12:38Z] <alphacentauri> now instead of doing stuff ... am contemplating to switch distro
[2023-10-11T09:14:36Z] <vova> hehe
[2023-10-11T09:17:42Z] <alphacentauri> kiss is musl ?
[2023-10-11T09:24:56Z] <vova> yep
[2023-10-11T09:25:10Z] <vova> but you can use https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/grepo if you want glibc
[2023-10-11T09:26:38Z] <alphacentauri> the init is init ?
[2023-10-11T09:27:13Z] <vova> busybox init
[2023-10-11T09:31:44Z] <alphacentauri> vova: are you on nvidia ?
[2023-10-11T09:31:48Z] <vova> nop
[2023-10-11T09:31:59Z] <alphacentauri> ok
[2023-10-11T09:32:01Z] <schillingklaus> busybox is vastly superior to systemd
[2023-10-11T09:32:06Z] <vova> I use the intel iGPU (IIRC it's called like that ?)
[2023-10-11T09:32:25Z] <alphacentauri> not even amd ?
[2023-10-11T09:32:53Z] <alphacentauri> when was kiss created ?
[2023-10-11T09:33:44Z] <schillingklaus> long ago by dylan, who has been long since displaced by dilyn
[2023-10-11T09:35:31Z] <schillingklaus> but how does nvidia come into the picture?
[2023-10-11T09:44:22Z] <alphacentauri> because kiss is by default on wayland
[2023-10-11T12:10:17Z] <alphacentauri> dear lord just stumbeled on this  
[2023-10-11T12:10:19Z] <alphacentauri> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/17590l7/x11_vs_wayland_the_actual_difference/
[2023-10-11T12:24:14Z] <alphacentauri> is the kiss-xorg on glibc ?
[2023-10-11T12:32:38Z] <alphacentauri> vova: are you there ?
[2023-10-11T12:33:07Z] <alphacentauri> I called sick, when  you work at governement sick leave is inlimited :)
[2023-10-11T12:33:24Z] <alphacentauri> vova: did you read the reddit article 
[2023-10-11T12:33:26Z] <alphacentauri> ?
[2023-10-11T12:33:29Z] <alphacentauri> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/17590l7/x11_vs_wayland_the_actual_difference/
[2023-10-11T12:33:50Z] <alphacentauri> is the kiss-xorg packages size same as official kiss ?
[2023-10-11T12:37:10Z] <vova> Yeah I'm here
[2023-10-11T12:37:18Z] <vova> you can use X packages on both musl and glibc
[2023-10-11T12:39:04Z] <alphacentauri> but on musl proprietary software maybe an issue
[2023-10-11T12:39:30Z] <alphacentauri> vova: the number of packages in kiss-xorg is equal to official kiss repo ?
[2023-10-11T12:40:15Z] <alphacentauri> if we want to upgrade a package our self is it possible ?
[2023-10-11T12:41:14Z] <alphacentauri> if for exemple I am impatient for package update, I can do it ?
[2023-10-11T12:41:48Z] <alphacentauri> in void we can update our self if we don't want to wait offical update
[2023-10-11T12:49:32Z] <vova> kiss is source based so yeah you can update package yourself
[2023-10-11T12:50:10Z] <vova> you can use multiple "repo" at the same time
[2023-10-11T12:50:28Z] <vova> so just grab the kiss-xorg repo, and the official one, add the community too and you're good
[2023-10-11T12:51:24Z] <alphacentauri> kiss-xorg is glibc based ?
[2023-10-11T13:07:45Z] <vova> kiss-xorg is just x package
[2023-10-11T13:07:49Z] <vova> packages*
[2023-10-11T13:11:43Z] <sewn> hi
[2023-10-11T13:12:21Z] <Guest59> hi
[2023-10-11T13:13:14Z] <vova> hi
[2023-10-11T13:23:24Z] <alphacentauri> perfect
[2023-10-11T20:26:15Z] <Guest59> has anyone set up sway on their machine? i was having issues with XDG_RUNTIME_DIR on my test machine and then had a bunch of other issues. can anyone provide me with how they installed sway?
[2023-10-11T20:30:20Z] <rfaa> run this before you run sway:
[2023-10-11T20:30:21Z] <rfaa> export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR="/tmp/user/$(id -u)"
[2023-10-11T20:30:22Z] <rfaa> [ ! -d "$XDG_RUNTIME_DIR" ] && mkdir -p "$XDG_RUNTIME_DIR" && chmod 0700 "$XDG_RUNTIME_DIR"
[2023-10-11T20:30:51Z] <rfaa> preferably put it in a script that autoruns when you login
[2023-10-11T20:32:21Z] <Guest59> ok but what utilities did you have to install to get sway up and running? everyone mentions using elogind but how do i use seatd instead of elogind
[2023-10-11T20:35:33Z] <rfaa> hm install libseat and enable the seatd service
[2023-10-11T20:36:15Z] <Guest59> is that it? i heard that you had to set up XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, is the script enough to set it up
[2023-10-11T20:36:47Z] <rfaa> think so yeah, works for me and can't remember doing anything else
[2023-10-11T20:37:09Z] <Guest59> ok thank you so much
[2023-10-11T20:37:24Z] <rfaa> np, hope you solve it
[2023-10-11T20:37:38Z] <Guest59> one more thing, i wanted to set up waybar, but was a little confused on how you use samurai instead of ninja
[2023-10-11T20:40:17Z] <rfaa> hm i don't use waybar but just installing samurai should give you a symlink for ninja as well, don't think you need to do anything specific to use samu instead of ninja
[2023-10-11T20:40:24Z] <rfaa> executing ninja will run samu
[2023-10-11T20:40:46Z] <Guest59> oh so i can just run ninja, and then it runs samu
[2023-10-11T20:40:54Z] <rfaa> correct
[2023-10-11T20:41:26Z] <Guest59> ok thank you so much, you literally answered all my questions in two minutes
[2023-10-11T20:41:30Z] <Guest59> really appreciate it
[2023-10-11T20:41:34Z] <rfaa> np man, gl
[2023-10-11T20:42:08Z] <rfaa> has anyone tried integrating this instead of having the whole nodejs dependency for firefox? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1482433#c11
[2023-10-11T21:08:19Z] <illiliti> someone already asked this recently, so i suppose yes
[2023-10-11T21:08:40Z] <illiliti> you can look into how netbsd builds firefox without nodejs and do same in kiss
[2023-10-11T21:08:49Z] <illiliti> https://github.com/NetBSD/pkgsrc/blob/trunk/www/firefox/Makefile
[2023-10-11T21:11:53Z] <illiliti> js files: https://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/distfiles/nodejs-output-116.0.tgz (not sure if compatible with latest firefox tho)
[2023-10-11T21:16:16Z] <rfaa> oh nice, thank you!