2020-04-12T00:28:36 #kisslinux <illiliti> merakor: this is not a proper solution. what about bugs? of course i can fix them myself, but people with less knowledge can't. what about community repo? it's became useless without maintainers
2020-04-12T02:10:15 #kisslinux <lieu> illiliti: From https://k1ss.org/guidestones, 2nd guide under KISS.
2020-04-12T02:11:06 #kisslinux <lieu> `| * With great power comes great responsibility.        |`
2020-04-12T02:11:10 #kisslinux <lieu> `|   The user must have some kind of brain in their      |`
2020-04-12T02:11:14 #kisslinux <lieu> `|   skull and must exercise its use where necessary.    |`
2020-04-12T02:11:41 #kisslinux <onodera> illiliti using his brain by suggesting a solution
2020-04-12T02:12:44 #kisslinux <lieu> onodera: I'm trying to point out that KISS is not meant for the less knowledge.
2020-04-12T02:13:22 #kisslinux <onodera> wow sorry
2020-04-12T02:15:07 #kisslinux <lieu> But newcomers are always welcome because the community, despite the relatively small size, is very helpful.
2020-04-12T02:30:46 #kisslinux <konimex> lieu: for the sake of the argument, how does one define "knowledge"?
2020-04-12T02:32:23 #kisslinux <konimex> just an example, is knowing ./configure; make; make install enough?
2020-04-12T02:46:42 #kisslinux <lieu> konimex: no
2020-04-12T02:46:48 #kisslinux <lieu> but yes
2020-04-12T02:46:55 #kisslinux <lieu> i may have made a bad point
2020-04-12T03:14:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> I mean, Dylan designed the distro in such a way that this isn't a huge problem, just annoying
2020-04-12T03:15:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> Ideally we'd have like, two maintainers for community to merge PRs and such, but it isn't *necessary*
2020-04-12T05:16:55 #kisslinux <icyphox> I'm not sure why I thought this would be a good idea, but I installed and setup apk-tools on KISS>
2020-04-12T05:17:19 #kisslinux <icyphox> And proceeded to 'apk add' and then 'apk del' some package. Which REKT my system.
2020-04-12T05:18:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> https://termbin.com/8lf3
2020-04-12T05:19:23 #kisslinux <icyphox> I think I'll have to do a full reinstall.
2020-04-12T07:05:35 #kisslinux <aosync> Hello, I am having troubles loading some .ucode firmware (iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode) and I can't find how to load it. I've put it in /usr/lib/firmware. Do you have any ideas ?
2020-04-12T09:11:13 #kisslinux <merakor> icyphox: You probably won't be able to, but try rebuilding gcc.
2020-04-12T09:11:27 #kisslinux <merakor> If you have it in your cache, re i
2020-04-12T09:11:43 #kisslinux <merakor> reinstall* it
2020-04-12T09:12:06 #kisslinux <icyphox> merakor: Yeah, I installed all the missing stuff from apk.
2020-04-12T09:12:10 #kisslinux <icyphox> Seems to work now.
2020-04-12T09:12:11 #kisslinux <icyphox> lmao
2020-04-12T09:12:36 #kisslinux <icyphox> Not going to use apk again though, lol.
2020-04-12T09:13:02 #kisslinux <merakor> Apk is a terrible package manager in my opinion
2020-04-12T09:14:08 #kisslinux <merakor> If you accidentally add or remove packages without root priviliges, you might accidentally destroy your system for some reason
2020-04-12T09:15:16 #kisslinux <merakor> The onky
2020-04-12T09:15:52 #kisslinux <merakor> The only check it does is dependencies when adding a package
2020-04-12T09:19:11 #kisslinux <icyphox> Agreed.
2020-04-12T09:19:24 #kisslinux <icyphox> But I've always liked it -- it's fast.
2020-04-12T09:34:01 #kisslinux <mps> 'apk fix' sometimes can help
2020-04-12T16:45:08 #kisslinux <kiedtl> not to mention apk's terribly unhelpful error messages :)
2020-04-12T17:07:50 #kisslinux <konimex> https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2020/04/11/pengrun/
2020-04-12T20:01:46 #kisslinux <dzove855> konimex: are you there?
2020-04-12T20:24:17 #kisslinux <ax> good evening
2020-04-12T22:06:33 #kisslinux <onodera> how can I run two x instances at once
2020-04-12T22:06:39 #kisslinux <onodera> in different TTYs
2020-04-12T22:06:48 #kisslinux <onodera> on crux I could just run startx, and it would open another tty
2020-04-12T22:06:52 #kisslinux <onodera> on kiss this fails
2020-04-12T22:12:20 #kisslinux <ax> alt+F2
2020-04-12T22:12:31 #kisslinux <ax> move on tty2
2020-04-12T22:14:02 #kisslinux <ax> or you should as usual explain your problem better
2020-04-12T22:16:56 #kisslinux <mcf> i don't think it's possible unless Xorg is setuid root or you use systemd-logind. as far as i understand, you become DRM master automatically if there is no current master, but you can't actually drop DRM master unless you have root permissions
2020-04-12T22:17:58 #kisslinux <onodera> ehh that's weird, because on crux I could, without running systemd
2020-04-12T22:18:11 #kisslinux <mcf> elogind?
2020-04-12T22:18:28 #kisslinux <onodera> https://camille.sh/LW6K.log
2020-04-12T22:18:29 #kisslinux <onodera> log
2020-04-12T22:18:44 #kisslinux <onodera> this is running startx in tty1 while x is also running in tty1
2020-04-12T22:19:42 #kisslinux <ax> log is exsaustive ... error found ..
2020-04-12T22:19:51 #kisslinux <ax> i run it without problem