2020-05-28T01:06:01 #kisslinux Hmm. Something seems to be broken with my xcb 2020-05-28T01:06:04 #kisslinux I have zero luck 2020-05-28T06:02:39 #kisslinux dilynm: re recent kiss not building qt5* : One thing that came to my mind is when you change to a chroot envoriment is, the things you dont interchange are your actual hardware and your kernel. Have you tried with a different kernel? I would suggest trying a live cd to make sure to have a normal and common kernel. 2020-05-28T07:18:40 #kisslinux dilynm: What error are you getting? 2020-05-28T07:18:47 #kisslinux Like qt failing to initialize the xcb backend? 2020-05-28T08:48:03 #kisslinux o/ 2020-05-28T08:48:22 #kisslinux hi 2020-05-28T08:53:47 #kisslinux How goes it? 2020-05-28T08:55:12 #kisslinux Goes well, more or less. Much work, not enough time for other fun stuff. 2020-05-28T08:55:45 #kisslinux Yeah, I get it. 2020-05-28T08:56:20 #kisslinux I've been solving some tricky (especially with COVID) banking stuff. Waiting on a card from Australia which will take 3 weeks to arrive. 2020-05-28T08:56:31 #kisslinux Shouldn't complain though. I've stayed well and healthy so far during this stange time. 2020-05-28T08:56:37 #kisslinux This is express as well... 2020-05-28T08:56:50 #kisslinux If I didn't pay for express it would take 3 months via ship. 2020-05-28T08:56:55 #kisslinux Ouch. 2020-05-28T08:57:07 #kisslinux That sounds unreasonably long? 2020-05-28T08:57:14 #kisslinux Oh yeah 2020-05-28T08:57:25 #kisslinux That's just how it is right now... 2020-05-28T08:57:46 #kisslinux The PC I'm waiting on was sent private (via DHL) and arrived in Greece. It's stuck in customs though! 2020-05-28T08:58:27 #kisslinux Due to COVID precautions, or just normal Greek customs rules? 2020-05-28T08:58:32 #kisslinux COVID 2020-05-28T08:58:41 #kisslinux They can't physically open any packages entering the country. 2020-05-28T08:58:46 #kisslinux Ah 2020-05-28T08:58:50 #kisslinux I've had to answer a lot of questions about what's inside. 2020-05-28T08:58:59 #kisslinux And some forms to fill out... etc 2020-05-28T08:59:12 #kisslinux I see. Satisfactory answers, or are they keeping it? 2020-05-28T08:59:23 #kisslinux It should pass through customs any day now 2020-05-28T08:59:41 #kisslinux They almost sent it back... 2020-05-28T09:00:30 #kisslinux Fingers crossed it goes through and delivered soon then. 2020-05-28T09:00:44 #kisslinux Yeah! 2020-05-28T09:00:57 #kisslinux The garden is going great if you're wondering 2020-05-28T09:01:01 #kisslinux Fantastic donation, would've been such a pain if it'd gotten screwed by customs. 2020-05-28T09:01:06 #kisslinux Nice! 2020-05-28T09:01:17 #kisslinux Yeah, it's an amazing gesture. 2020-05-28T09:01:23 #kisslinux I'll never forget it 2020-05-28T09:01:59 #kisslinux I hear it's been really warm over there. Bet the crops are loving it, given that they receive sufficient irrigation that is. 2020-05-28T09:02:40 #kisslinux Yeah, I've already gone for a few swims. The past few days have been chilly though. I'm wearing jeans today. 2020-05-28T09:14:00 #kisslinux It wasn't that long ago they allowed for people to go into the water again right? 2020-05-28T09:14:27 #kisslinux I heard beaches and the water were a no-go for a while. 2020-05-28T09:18:48 #kisslinux Well, what they mean by "closed beaches" is that the business on the beach are closed. 2020-05-28T09:19:00 #kisslinux The beaches themselves have always been open. 2020-05-28T09:19:54 #kisslinux Lockdown here ended over a month ago I believe? (Losing track of time here..). The cafes, restaurants, etc opened back up a few days ago. Hotels are still closed until mid-July iirc. 2020-05-28T09:20:56 #kisslinux Hardly anything has opened though. There's no point for the business owners as there aren't yet any tourists. 2020-05-28T09:21:16 #kisslinux Locals are saving their money as well (so you won't see them going to cafes, etc anytime soon) 2020-05-28T09:21:43 #kisslinux It's a really tricky situation as Greece relies on tourism to function. 2020-05-28T09:25:12 #kisslinux And if its tough for the people there now, I can't really imagine how hard the winter will be if the there won't be sufficient tourism in July/August 2020-05-28T09:26:12 #kisslinux It'll be a real struggle I'd imagine 2020-05-28T09:28:09 #kisslinux Exactly... People are already struggling here. 2020-05-28T09:28:40 #kisslinux They're holding out with hope for a small Summer (though they're meant to then live 6 or so months with money from it). 2020-05-28T09:36:20 #kisslinux Is the government taking any measures to help people then? As you say, most areas rely heavily on tourism. 2020-05-28T09:37:08 #kisslinux Yeah. The government will pay half of the wages (employer pays 50%, government pays the rest). Rents were also reduced to 40% of their original amount. 2020-05-28T09:37:32 #kisslinux The problem is that Greece runs on black money (which isn't covered by any sort of help of course). 2020-05-28T09:45:16 #kisslinux Yeah, I remember the whole black money economy being raised as an issue already when Greece switched to the Euro. 2020-05-28T09:46:10 #kisslinux And the normal (read white money) wages aren't exactly enough to live on, right? So that black money is kind of what people rely on to afford their lives then I'd assume. 2020-05-28T09:51:00 #kisslinux It's more that the employer must pay taxes, pensions, etc on top of wages. 2020-05-28T09:51:27 #kisslinux When someone is hired under the table, they're paid just an hourly wage (with no security at all). 2020-05-28T09:52:00 #kisslinux The problem is that the taxes/pension amounts make it unrealistic for a business to hire someone the legal way. 2020-05-28T09:52:55 #kisslinux I see, so even employment is done that way. I thought it was just business income, e.g. restaurants not declaring all their income as white etc. 2020-05-28T09:54:12 #kisslinux Hmm, yeah. If wages are generally quite low, yet taxes and pension are on the same level as in countries where wages are much higher, then the balance between net and gross gets really off I take it. 2020-05-28T09:56:21 #kisslinux Everything is under the table here 2020-05-28T09:56:57 #kisslinux So the alternative would be, what, to lower taxes and pension a lot? Which would be good for employers, but not for the employees obviously. Or the other way around, raising the minimum wage limit, meaning employees benefits from it, but employers will hesitate to employ staff as they can't afford it. 2020-05-28T09:57:48 #kisslinux Yes, I understand it's all under the table. I'm speaking in terms of how to make it work _white money_ wise, which is near impossible to fix the way things are now I guess. 2020-05-28T09:59:21 #kisslinux In other words, the whole government assists by paying 50% of the wages/employer costs has no real effect, due to most people being paid under the table. 2020-05-28T09:59:53 #kisslinux If I understood you correctly :) 2020-05-28T10:00:35 #kisslinux Exactly 2020-05-28T10:01:16 #kisslinux Plus, there's so much that businesses must now do to actually open (and legally stay open) that a lot of people aren't going to open at all. 2020-05-28T10:01:28 #kisslinux It's a really tricky situation. 2020-05-28T10:04:40 #kisslinux That card from Australia of yours btw, what's the deal? I guess what I'm asking is if you have no money until it arrives. 2020-05-28T10:08:42 #kisslinux Sounded urgent. Yet 3 weeks is a heck of a long time, depending on the circumstances of course. 2020-05-28T11:35:33 #kisslinux fehawen: It's a little difficult but I'll be alright. 2020-05-28T11:39:50 #kisslinux Ok, you sure? If not, let me know. I'd be happy to help. 2020-05-28T11:42:59 #kisslinux Yeah, I'll be alright. Thank you so much for extending a hand though! 2020-05-28T11:47:25 #kisslinux Anytime. 2020-05-28T12:47:10 #kisslinux claudia: that's a fair suggestion. I'll try to use a different config. You said you built qt 5.15 tho? Do you have /usr/lib/qt/plugins/platforms/libqtxcb.so? 2020-05-28T12:48:06 #kisslinux E5ten: when I launch a qt app terminal says 'could not load xcb plugin from ""' then it lists some available plugins, none of which are xcb. Which prompted me to check the sforementioned^ folder 2020-05-28T12:48:14 #kisslinux It doesn't exist. No errors when building tho 2020-05-28T13:02:42 #kisslinux dilynm: I have a different one 2020-05-28T13:02:44 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/z1gt 2020-05-28T13:03:02 #kisslinux but I have just installed all the xcb stuff you have in your kde branch 2020-05-28T13:03:11 #kisslinux I have otter and viper working. 2020-05-28T13:03:25 #kisslinux They both now work better under wayland.! 2020-05-28T13:03:26 #kisslinux Well 2020-05-28T13:03:36 #kisslinux At least it works... 2020-05-28T13:04:33 #kisslinux no falkon yet. I have seen the aur has already falkon qt5-15 patches 2020-05-28T13:08:17 #kisslinux yeah I works! It cant be all bad :P 2020-05-28T14:33:29 #kisslinux Hmm. Kernel isn't an issue claudia: 2020-05-28T14:34:57 #kisslinux When I add -qpa xcb and -xcb to configure, I get: Error: feature 'xvb' was enabled, but the precondition 'features.thread && libs.xcb && test.xcb_syslibs && features .xkbcommon-x11' failed 2020-05-28T14:38:41 #kisslinux This is from booting arch and making a clean chroot from the latest release and updating 2020-05-28T14:39:09 #kisslinux claudia: what xcb related dependencies do you have installed? All of them? I guess what Xorg libs do you have 2020-05-28T14:48:46 #kisslinux dilynm: everyting with a x in its name: 2020-05-28T14:48:47 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/4sgwc 2020-05-28T14:49:25 #kisslinux I needed to install the xcb-* from KISS-kde/qt5/depends 2020-05-28T14:49:53 #kisslinux without this I was not able to build qt5-x11extras. The installed tarball was empty 2020-05-28T14:50:07 #kisslinux Interesting! 2020-05-28T14:50:46 #kisslinux this was just a guess, because "enable xcb" was not specified but it worked 2020-05-28T14:51:17 #kisslinux I guessed so because for e.g arch doestn specify it either and just list xcb-* as dep 2020-05-28T14:51:59 #kisslinux Yeah it autochecks for xcb on the system during configure 2020-05-28T14:52:16 #kisslinux If e5ten is right then it's possible we were just using qt xcb the whole time... 2020-05-28T14:52:19 #kisslinux hm thats odd, that even in a clean chroot from outside it errors.. 2020-05-28T14:53:15 #kisslinux "kiss-depends qt5" lists xcb-* as dep on my end 2020-05-28T14:53:20 #kisslinux Well since all I did was immediately kiss u && kiss b qt5, it means the qt5 dependency list isn't exhaustive 2020-05-28T14:53:34 #kisslinux Yeah but it doesn't list every dependency that, say, lfs has for it 2020-05-28T14:54:20 #kisslinux (tangentially, kiss b qt5 returned the same error I got on my system. Which is disheartening) 2020-05-28T14:59:23 #kisslinux I have not specified anthing xcb in my build 2020-05-28T14:59:24 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/9tua 2020-05-28T15:01:24 #kisslinux I only specified because I had a hunch it was failing to find xcb (because it checks for it and if it's there, enables it). Since you seem to have more than just what we say qt5 requires, it's probable that on your end it finds everything it needs for xcb. On mine, it doesn't 2020-05-28T15:01:48 #kisslinux Maybe it could help to raise an issue on reddit to get some report from other users? 2020-05-28T15:02:16 #kisslinux I just did a kiss-reset recently, so my builds are pretty fresh 2020-05-28T15:34:56 #kisslinux dilynm: just for reference a complete package list https://termbin.com/1xim 2020-05-28T15:47:41 #kisslinux dylan02: I have added rsync repository support to my fork (git is optional now). I also plan on serving KISS community and KISS main, what do you think? 2020-05-28T16:20:34 #kisslinux dylan02: imo you should allow kiss variable to be any non-zero value to have their effect like this http://ix.io/2nCq 2020-05-28T16:25:39 #kisslinux LFS provides the 5.15 fix for falkon http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/xsoft/falkon.html. works 2020-05-28T18:07:54 #kisslinux Thanks for spotting that Claudia, and thank you for the lists 2020-05-28T18:08:11 #kisslinux I think we got it. In half an hour we'll know for sure. Hopefully. 2020-05-28T18:42:22 #kisslinux yo I' 2020-05-28T18:42:29 #kisslinux I'm getting overwealmed by linux 2020-05-28T18:42:45 #kisslinux can someone help me change $PATH directories? 2020-05-28T18:50:55 #kisslinux what? 2020-05-28T18:51:35 #kisslinux well, if I'm still writing to this channel 2020-05-28T18:51:44 #kisslinux can someone tell me: 2020-05-28T18:51:50 #kisslinux does this method work? 2020-05-28T18:52:06 #kisslinux https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-add-directory-to-path-in-linux/ 2020-05-28T18:52:30 #kisslinux must I restart to notice changes to $PATH directories? 2020-05-28T18:53:01 #kisslinux I'm trying to write a python program with nonstandard library PySide2 2020-05-28T18:53:19 #kisslinux assuming that page tells you to edit your bashrc, just restarting your terminal should be enough 2020-05-28T18:53:40 #kisslinux will that affect python ide's and loaded libraries? 2020-05-28T18:53:48 #kisslinux im still getting errors from my ide 2020-05-28T18:53:57 #kisslinux hm 2020-05-28T18:54:05 #kisslinux how are you running your ide 2020-05-28T18:54:20 #kisslinux it's thonny, for python only 2020-05-28T18:54:32 #kisslinux it's running on the same computer from a directory in documents 2020-05-28T18:54:45 #kisslinux no, like are you running it from the terminal or clicking an icon 2020-05-28T18:54:52 #kisslinux I click an icon 2020-05-28T18:55:19 #kisslinux you might need to log out and log back in, though bashrc might not get read depending on your gui configuration 2020-05-28T18:55:36 #kisslinux this seems extremely complicated 2020-05-28T18:57:33 #kisslinux if your ide supports python virtualenvs, you might want to try that instead 2020-05-28T19:59:57 #kisslinux dylan02: by any chance, have you found a way round the util linux probleme ? thanks 2020-05-28T20:10:44 #kisslinux i've been thinking of making a "kiss repo searcher" kinda like gentoo's gpo.zugaina.org. is anyone else working on something like this? 2020-05-28T20:10:55 #kisslinux i don't want to duplicate the effort if something like that already exists 2020-05-28T20:31:43 #kisslinux admicos: a repo searcher would be very useful 2020-05-28T20:33:10 #kisslinux after combing through the kiss-repo topic on github to find a new package, i think the same 2020-05-28T20:33:11 #kisslinux beyond the functionality of what `kiss search` already does 2020-05-28T20:33:24 #kisslinux doesn't kiss search just search your local repos 2020-05-28T20:34:10 #kisslinux afaik yea 2020-05-28T20:36:54 #kisslinux admicos: I have made kiss-ui. https://github.com/sdsddsd1/kiss-ui . It can do a fuzzy search for repos you have cloned local. 2020-05-28T20:38:24 #kisslinux claudia: local search can already be done (for the most part). i am thinking more about having a site or api to query "all" repos 2020-05-28T20:38:53 #kisslinux people will submit their repos for inclusion, and you can query across all repos, local or not 2020-05-28T20:39:27 #kisslinux thinking about it, it doesn't need to be online at all 2020-05-28T20:39:38 #kisslinux just update the database every now and then, and it can be done locally 2020-05-28T20:40:16 #kisslinux https://github.com/jedahan/kiss-universe 2020-05-28T20:40:30 #kisslinux theres an aproach, but I have no clue what to do with it 2020-05-28T20:40:42 #kisslinux ^^ 2020-05-28T20:41:07 #kisslinux y, admicos that was my intention to have something like a collector repo or so 2020-05-28T20:43:24 #kisslinux well, cloning all repos that exists into your system just to be able to search through them feels a little overkill 2020-05-28T20:43:31 #kisslinux just having a list of packages in a repo should be enough 2020-05-28T20:44:04 #kisslinux http://ix.io/2nE2 linux-nightrous fails; seems our updated libelf doesn't work? 2020-05-28T20:44:16 #kisslinux or "repos of a package" might be a better approach in terms of search speed 2020-05-28T20:55:33 #kisslinux dilynm: I started building kernel 5.6.14 and its 5 mins in, no failure 2020-05-28T20:56:50 #kisslinux Hello everyone, I hope everyone is doing good. 2020-05-28T20:57:11 #kisslinux I have a little doubt I'll be glad if it gets solved 2020-05-28T20:57:15 #kisslinux I don't think the kernel.org kernel has upstreamed the relevant change claudia: 2020-05-28T20:57:39 #kisslinux ah, kk 2020-05-28T20:58:02 #kisslinux so yesterday I installed kisslinux, and all was good 2020-05-28T20:58:23 #kisslinux the problem was that I had encrypted my lvm partition with luks 2020-05-28T20:58:41 #kisslinux and I obviously won't be able to boot 2020-05-28T20:58:47 #kisslinux so I chrooted again 2020-05-28T20:58:52 #kisslinux but I don't know what to do now 2020-05-28T20:59:43 #kisslinux in faq it's mentioned that full disk encryption is possible 2020-05-28T21:00:07 #kisslinux and it says to see dm-mod.create 2020-05-28T21:00:21 #kisslinux I am not exactly familiar with encryption but checkout https://github.com/illiliti/kiss-encryption 2020-05-28T21:00:30 #kisslinux Hmm one sec 2020-05-28T21:00:49 #kisslinux Also https://github.com/illiliti/tinyramfs 2020-05-28T21:01:25 #kisslinux Hmm... okay 2020-05-28T21:01:46 #kisslinux kiss-encryption is also on the community repository 2020-05-28T21:02:05 #kisslinux It adds init hooks for encrypted drives 2020-05-28T21:02:16 #kisslinux I see 2020-05-28T21:02:19 #kisslinux so I have installed it 2020-05-28T21:02:30 #kisslinux there doesn't seem to be any wiki or docs about it 2020-05-28T21:02:47 #kisslinux https://k1ss.org/blog/20200525a #encryption 2020-05-28T21:02:55 #kisslinux this has recently changed (: 2020-05-28T21:03:48 #kisslinux It should be plug and play unless your whole system is encrypted 2020-05-28T21:04:16 #kisslinux If it is you will also need tinyramfs 2020-05-28T21:04:45 #kisslinux yes my whole system is encrypted 2020-05-28T21:04:54 #kisslinux I guess I'll install tinyramfs also 2020-05-28T21:05:33 #kisslinux oh no i might've accidentally ran kiss b gcc without sourcing my profile first 2020-05-28T21:05:39 #kisslinux it took all this time and it used the wrong flags 2020-05-28T21:05:53 #kisslinux :( 2020-05-28T21:06:15 #kisslinux i even enabled bootstrap because i was trying profiledbootstrap 2020-05-28T21:06:57 #kisslinux yep 2020-05-28T21:07:02 #kisslinux checking /proc//environ 2020-05-28T21:07:09 #kisslinux f 2020-05-28T21:07:25 #kisslinux at least march=native is there 2020-05-28T21:07:37 #kisslinux I once built webkitgtk and had a typo on KISS_COMPRESS, so the tarball was just an empty file 2020-05-28T21:07:42 #kisslinux oof 2020-05-28T21:07:51 #kisslinux i also forgot to compress a tar on my server once, 2020-05-28T21:07:56 #kisslinux and downloaded an uncompressed tar 2020-05-28T21:08:01 #kisslinux over 300KB/s 2020-05-28T21:08:03 #kisslinux BTW thanks @claudia and @merakor for helping me out 2020-05-28T21:08:19 #kisslinux Glad to help! 2020-05-28T21:08:46 #kisslinux How big was the tarball 2020-05-28T21:08:51 #kisslinux 400MB 2020-05-28T21:09:00 #kisslinux also, i said once, but it was today 2020-05-28T21:09:09 #kisslinux Ouch 2020-05-28T21:09:43 #kisslinux I don't have that patience 2020-05-28T21:10:14 #kisslinux that's why i downloaded it to my server first 2020-05-28T21:10:19 #kisslinux it was originally ~1gb 2020-05-28T21:10:28 #kisslinux deleted some duplicate unneccesary files 2020-05-28T21:10:49 #kisslinux I wait until I go to work, which has insane amounts of network speed 2020-05-28T21:11:08 #kisslinux But it is pointless because I waste much more time just to not wait 2020-05-28T21:11:32 #kisslinux sometimes i just think about making my computer a thin client and just remote desktop-ing into my server 2020-05-28T21:12:25 #kisslinux but i'd rather have a crisp screen & slow internet than something compressed to hell and back 2020-05-28T21:12:48 #kisslinux also the server is slower in every way except internet 2020-05-28T21:13:08 #kisslinux I don't update packages on my server unless there are updates for networking software D: 2020-05-28T21:14:37 #kisslinux gcc is hogging all my cpu even ssh lags 2020-05-28T21:17:31 #kisslinux that is some sad tale going on here 2020-05-28T21:34:40 #kisslinux Hola, does anyone have familiarity with the repology API? 2020-05-28T21:36:31 #kisslinux not the api, but i got a copy of the app running locally and it was only medium annoying to setup 2020-05-28T21:36:53 #kisslinux I'm just writing a package search utility, haha 2020-05-28T21:36:57 #kisslinux -> gcc Build failed 2020-05-28T21:36:58 #kisslinux aaaaah 2020-05-28T21:37:02 #kisslinux I can't figure out what it wants 2020-05-28T21:37:34 #kisslinux > API always returns a list of packages. Package is a dictionary of the following format: 2020-05-28T21:37:38 #kisslinux but how do i contact the api 2020-05-28T21:38:28 #kisslinux Oh 2020-05-28T21:38:30 #kisslinux I'm a fool 2020-05-28T21:39:04 #kisslinux so i just copy pasted the first url and got some json 2020-05-28T21:39:16 #kisslinux Yea it's a url 2020-05-28T21:39:29 #kisslinux https://repology.org/api/v1/project/firefox 2020-05-28T21:39:41 #kisslinux i mean, they dont say to do that anywhere, so its annoying to have to guess at it 2020-05-28T21:58:00 #kisslinux Don't you love a working api? 2020-05-28T21:58:01 #kisslinux https://0x0.st/ifTH.png 2020-05-28T22:02:53 #kisslinux It gets worse!!!!!!! 2020-05-28T22:02:54 #kisslinux https://0x0.st/ifTX.png 2020-05-28T22:03:13 #kisslinux When I ask it for things specific to freebsd, it gives me more things than when I *don't* 2020-05-28T22:03:16 #kisslinux Ain't that lovely? 2020-05-28T22:11:26 #kisslinux Bad must be thriving! /s 2020-05-28T23:04:27 #kisslinux dilynm: good news, I have reporduced your error 2020-05-28T23:04:29 #kisslinux File '**********************' is not valid 2020-05-28T23:04:36 #kisslinux ( : 2020-05-28T23:05:15 #kisslinux :o 2020-05-28T23:05:19 #kisslinux How'd you do it! 2020-05-28T23:06:18 #kisslinux kiss-reset -> kiss b wayland-compositor -> kiss b falkon 2020-05-28T23:06:33 #kisslinux it struggles at qt5-base 2020-05-28T23:07:34 #kisslinux Oh wow 2020-05-28T23:07:35 #kisslinux this is my pkg list atm https://termbin.com/5flq 2020-05-28T23:07:52 #kisslinux at least its reporduced.. 2020-05-28T23:08:07 #kisslinux last time I had allready a working xorg-server and build upon this 2020-05-28T23:08:50 #kisslinux It's just such a weird issue 2020-05-28T23:09:11 #kisslinux I get it building qt5, qt5-declarstive, and Falkon :| 2020-05-28T23:09:43 #kisslinux and now, when I try an older version of kiss it should work? 2020-05-28T23:10:03 #kisslinux did you come near the issue? 2020-05-28T23:10:13 #kisslinux I know it works with kiss 1.9.0 2020-05-28T23:11:06 #kisslinux I will try this 2020-05-28T23:15:11 #kisslinux it started building 2020-05-28T23:27:29 #kisslinux Its still in the build, but I seems to take much longer. 2020-05-28T23:27:39 #kisslinux Is there a chance that it doesnt use ccache? 2020-05-28T23:27:49 #kisslinux I just did ./kiss b qt5 2020-05-28T23:29:40 #kisslinux I'm not sure why it would take longer 2020-05-28T23:29:57 #kisslinux There's a flag in qt5s configure to use ccache. I wonder if it uses it without that flag? 2020-05-28T23:30:08 #kisslinux I think I've only used it for webengine tbh 2020-05-28T23:36:47 #kisslinux I mean my system kiss has build qt5 in maybe ten minutes witch ccache and the blocks mostly flew that you could not read them 2020-05-28T23:37:01 #kisslinux now its 20 minutes in and just moving slowly 2020-05-28T23:37:16 #kisslinux when ./kiss b qt5 2020-05-28T23:40:20 #kisslinux Strange 2020-05-28T23:42:29 #kisslinux -> qt5 Build finished in 29m 2020-05-28T23:45:59 #kisslinux ok system kiss definately uses ccache and fails after 10secs or so 2020-05-28T23:57:13 #kisslinux aaaaaahhhhhhh gcc failed again 2020-05-28T23:57:32 #kisslinux 2 hours times 2 tries 2020-05-28T23:57:37 #kisslinux 4 hours wasted