2020-11-03T01:07:34 #kisslinux np! 2020-11-03T01:07:53 #kisslinux Also, I've finally finished(?) the Gemini mirror of k1ss.org! 2020-11-03T01:08:01 #kisslinux gemini://tilde.team/~kiedtl/k1ss/ 2020-11-03T01:08:19 #kisslinux send typo reports and nitpicks, all 2020-11-03T01:10:30 #kisslinux nice 2020-11-03T03:43:54 #kisslinux dylanaraps if you see this oguri fixed the mem leak it seems in latest master after switching images. 2020-11-03T06:21:35 #kisslinux o/ 2020-11-03T15:54:02 #kisslinux dylanaraps: I noticed in the new list functions you added to k you multiple some size_t values together (like sizeof and other stuff) you should probably check to make sure they won't overflow before that 2020-11-03T15:54:59 #kisslinux Like if (val1 > (size_t)-1 / val2) 2020-11-03T15:55:20 #kisslinux And if that's true you'd set errno to ENOMEM and not allocate 2020-11-03T16:46:05 #kisslinux muevoid: you might have missed that, but `webkit2gtk` in community is outdated. 2020-11-03T17:49:11 #kisslinux sh4rm4^bnc: if you end up making such a layer you would be a god to me :v 2020-11-03T17:49:20 #kisslinux GTK3 is such a pain 2020-11-03T19:22:22 #kisslinux +1 2020-11-03T19:22:42 #kisslinux man it would open up so many options 2020-11-03T20:25:38 #kisslinux this has been a fun project so far: http://github.com/mcpcpc/kwm 2020-11-03T20:34:36 #kisslinux midfavila, do you have some gtk+3 only apps in mind that would be good candidates for initial porting tests? 2020-11-03T20:35:21 #kisslinux i actually wanted to try my concept with wireshark, but then i found that there's a 1 month old version that still supports gtk+2 2020-11-03T23:10:42 #kisslinux you might find lariza useful 2020-11-03T23:10:54 #kisslinux it's a webkit2gtk-based browser that has under a thousand lines of code 2020-11-03T23:10:59 #kisslinux so it's pretty minimal 2020-11-03T23:11:43 #kisslinux if that proves too complex (I'm sure there'd be issues with the underlying engine...) then maybe... you could try with the gtk3 version of galculator, or maybe qalculate? 2020-11-03T23:14:22 #kisslinux sorry for the late response by the by, I was out doing some stuff 2020-11-03T23:27:33 #kisslinux humm, i'd rather try something small first 2020-11-03T23:27:42 #kisslinux a browser will take hours to compile 2020-11-03T23:27:52 #kisslinux lariza takes like two seconds 2020-11-03T23:27:53 #kisslinux :P 2020-11-03T23:28:00 #kisslinux well, webkitgtk2 might not be on your system 2020-11-03T23:28:03 #kisslinux in which case fair 2020-11-03T23:28:04 #kisslinux hmm 2020-11-03T23:28:04 #kisslinux if you have webkitgtk installed 2020-11-03T23:28:18 #kisslinux well, like I said, galculate is an option 2020-11-03T23:28:20 #kisslinux it's pretty simple 2020-11-03T23:28:25 #kisslinux ok 2020-11-03T23:28:36 #kisslinux it even has a gtk2 option that you could check your work against 2020-11-03T23:28:43 #kisslinux btw when will the election fun start ? 2020-11-03T23:28:48 #kisslinux who knows 2020-11-03T23:28:57 #kisslinux I'm not American so I haven't been paying much attention 2020-11-03T23:29:18 #kisslinux either way I'm betting on a re-election based on my understanding of political models 2020-11-03T23:29:50 #kisslinux i guess it'll be fun to hear all the trump haters whine 2020-11-03T23:30:05 #kisslinux it was fun for the first month 2020-11-03T23:30:08 #kisslinux now I'm just tired 2020-11-03T23:30:32 #kisslinux I'm not even a Trump fan. I just want people to realize that politics isn't about who wins and who loses 2020-11-03T23:30:51 #kisslinux the whole model stinks... 2020-11-03T23:30:57 #kisslinux oh, for sure 2020-11-03T23:31:23 #kisslinux "here, 2 candidates that we picked for you, vote!" 2020-11-03T23:31:44 #kisslinux honestly I'm not sure what's worse 2020-11-03T23:32:07 #kisslinux the fact that America isn't technically a democracy, or that it's approaching becoming a democracy 2020-11-03T23:32:25 #kisslinux republicanism is just like 2020-11-03T23:32:25 #kisslinux diet democracy 2020-11-03T23:32:52 #kisslinux democracy means mob rule, i.e. brainwash 51% of the ppl via your media, and they'll vote for whatever you want 2020-11-03T23:32:59 #kisslinux yup. 2020-11-03T23:33:22 #kisslinux and given the uh... mental capacity of the average normie... yeah. 2020-11-03T23:33:28 #kisslinux not to be high and mighty or whatever 2020-11-03T23:33:31 #kisslinux it's even easier if you own the "soros democrat 2020 voting machine" 2020-11-03T23:33:40 #kisslinux but humans are collectively retarded 2020-11-03T23:33:46 #kisslinux we make terrible decisions as a group 2020-11-03T23:34:00 #kisslinux putting a group in charge of a society is therefore a terrible decision, as far as I'm concerned 2020-11-03T23:34:11 #kisslinux that's why most successfull open source project have a BDFL 2020-11-03T23:34:27 #kisslinux I mean, yeah. Look at Slackware. Longest-running distro 2020-11-03T23:34:35 #kisslinux been run by one dude since its inception 2020-11-03T23:34:47 #kisslinux super stable, super flexible, no corporate crapware 2020-11-03T23:34:55 #kisslinux Just Werks:tm: 2020-11-03T23:34:58 #kisslinux etc 2020-11-03T23:35:00 #kisslinux or Linux 2020-11-03T23:35:03 #kisslinux really, pick your poison 2020-11-03T23:35:12 #kisslinux yup 2020-11-03T23:35:29 #kisslinux but if you criticize democracy you're a literal nazi 2020-11-03T23:35:36 #kisslinux so meh 2020-11-03T23:35:55 #kisslinux one just needs a thick skin 2020-11-03T23:36:03 #kisslinux see the thing is 2020-11-03T23:36:06 #kisslinux it's beyond that 2020-11-03T23:36:24 #kisslinux maybe ten years ago a thick skin was enough, because social justice bullshit wasn't mainstream enough to sway corporations 2020-11-03T23:36:50 #kisslinux you can be the thickest-skinned dude around and still get fired for making an innocuous joke 2020-11-03T23:37:13 #kisslinux yes, this development is worrying 2020-11-03T23:37:16 #kisslinux I mean, hell 2020-11-03T23:37:26 #kisslinux Look at that James Damore guy who used to work for Google 2020-11-03T23:37:34 #kisslinux Can we keep politics out of this channel 2020-11-03T23:37:39 #kisslinux similar to the tantrum that has been thrown here over kciN's joke 2020-11-03T23:37:48 #kisslinux if you don't want to talk about it, then don't 2020-11-03T23:37:51 #kisslinux it's a public forum 2020-11-03T23:38:03 #kisslinux kiedtl, read the kiss guidelines: no speech shall ever be prohibited 2020-11-03T23:38:12 #kisslinux It's a suggestion, not a command 2020-11-03T23:38:18 #kisslinux k 2020-11-03T23:38:44 #kisslinux what was the Damore drama? 2020-11-03T23:39:30 #kisslinux tl;dr he published a short paper criticizing Google's overtly political meddling and the hostile environment towards anyone right of center in Google, as well as attempting to explain why women are under-represented in the tech industry 2020-11-03T23:39:37 #kisslinux you can guess what happened next 2020-11-03T23:39:52 #kisslinux oh yeah 2020-11-03T23:40:18 #kisslinux you dont even need to be right of center, right of left is sufficient 2020-11-03T23:40:57 #kisslinux Mhm. 2020-11-03T23:42:16 #kisslinux honestly I think the biggest problem, as usual, is dogma 2020-11-03T23:42:29 #kisslinux people treat politics like religion now. or maybe they always have and I just never realized 2020-11-03T23:42:45 #kisslinux no, it's not been like that 2020-11-03T23:43:04 #kisslinux everything feels like it went off the deep end in 2013 2020-11-03T23:43:18 #kisslinux what happened in 2013 2020-11-03T23:43:36 #kisslinux I know it's a dead meme at this point, but that's when Gamergate happened 2020-11-03T23:43:45 #kisslinux and all the bullshit associated with it started to snowball 2020-11-03T23:44:03 #kisslinux i feel it's got somethign to do with the rise of social media 2020-11-03T23:44:08 #kisslinux oh absolutely 2020-11-03T23:44:24 #kisslinux smartphones and social media combined with outrage culture is the perfect recipe to rip open a portal to clown world 2020-11-03T23:44:41 #kisslinux the SJWs now have their twitter gurus that tell them what to think, even which words to use 2020-11-03T23:45:02 #kisslinux micro-aggressions, dog-whistles and all that BS 2020-11-03T23:45:24 #kisslinux dog-whistling is at least a legitimate concept 2020-11-03T23:45:44 #kisslinux like, it __is__ a thing that occurs, but they massively overreact to it 2020-11-03T23:45:54 #kisslinux who gives a shit if people play language games? 2020-11-03T23:45:59 #kisslinux humans have been doing that since our inception 2020-11-03T23:46:02 #kisslinux literally get over it 2020-11-03T23:46:10 #kisslinux *nod* 2020-11-03T23:46:31 #kisslinux but yeah the concept of micro-aggressions is ridiculous 2020-11-03T23:46:42 #kisslinux i recall that 15 years ago punks and skins were drinking their beer together 2020-11-03T23:46:55 #kisslinux I wouldn't know, haha 2020-11-03T23:46:58 #kisslinux That's before my time 2020-11-03T23:47:04 #kisslinux :) 2020-11-03T23:47:21 #kisslinux but yeah being a zoomer sucks 2020-11-03T23:47:41 #kisslinux I was around to experience the golden age of the net and watch it fall down, nothing else 2020-11-03T23:48:17 #kisslinux at least you experienced a time when search engines provided relevant results 2020-11-03T23:48:33 #kisslinux they still do, if you don't use the engine that shalt not be named 2020-11-03T23:48:40 #kisslinux DDG is pretty good, but searx is best imo 2020-11-03T23:49:09 #kisslinux i gotta test searx then, but imo bing and ddg suck pretty much too 2020-11-03T23:49:28 #kisslinux searx is a meta-engine that you can host yourself if you want 2020-11-03T23:49:39 #kisslinux so you can pull results from multiple engines and filter as you please 2020-11-03T23:49:56 #kisslinux yahoo seems to be one of the better engines these days, and yandex is great if you look for warez etc 2020-11-03T23:50:38 #kisslinux honestly I don't pirate much any more 2020-11-03T23:50:49 #kisslinux mainstream media is shit and proprietary programs are, too 2020-11-03T23:50:50 #kisslinux searx is annoying when the instance dies 2020-11-03T23:50:59 #kisslinux just use another instance 2020-11-03T23:51:11 #kisslinux snopyta is pretty consistent for example 2020-11-03T23:51:11 #kisslinux i dl' the occasional movie or retro game rom 2020-11-03T23:51:29 #kisslinux yeah but i gotta keep changing the urls 2020-11-03T23:51:38 #kisslinux I used to download a ton of ROMs, but I haven't played any games for at least like... fuck 2020-11-03T23:51:43 #kisslinux seven, eight months 2020-11-03T23:51:47 #kisslinux :) 2020-11-03T23:51:49 #kisslinux well, not counting MUDs 2020-11-03T23:51:54 #kisslinux but those are mostly social for me 2020-11-03T23:52:05 #kisslinux MUD? 2020-11-03T23:52:11 #kisslinux Multi-user dungeon 2020-11-03T23:52:23 #kisslinux they are to MMORPGs what Wolfenstein is to the FPS 2020-11-03T23:52:45 #kisslinux heh 2020-11-03T23:52:50 #kisslinux basically imagine something like Zork or Hack, but an MMO 2020-11-03T23:53:07 #kisslinux they're really fun and great typing/reading practice, too 2020-11-03T23:53:14 #kisslinux when i hear dungeon i imagine ultima 7 2020-11-03T23:53:48 #kisslinux that's way after the origin of MUDs :P 2020-11-03T23:54:01 #kisslinux iirc the first MUD was written in the late 70s on some PDP machine 2020-11-03T23:54:21 #kisslinux oh? ultima 7 came out early 90ies when there was no internet widely available 2020-11-03T23:54:28 #kisslinux and then they were like 2020-11-03T23:54:29 #kisslinux "holy fuck, you can totally like... network this shit, you" 2020-11-03T23:54:31 #kisslinux yo* 2020-11-03T23:55:14 #kisslinux and then MUDs gave rise to the MUCK, which is more of a thing for social roleplaying 2020-11-03T23:55:21 #kisslinux and from there you get stuff like second life and furcadia 2020-11-03T23:55:27 #kisslinux would be interesting to see a MUD version of dwarf fortress 2020-11-03T23:55:44 #kisslinux you could probably write something like that 2020-11-03T23:55:58 #kisslinux but yeah, MUDs gave rise instead to gaves like WoW and Ultima Online 2020-11-03T23:56:05 #kisslinux given their more active nature than MUCKs 2020-11-03T23:56:19 #kisslinux the history of computing is something I'm really fascinated with 2020-11-03T23:57:00 #kisslinux yeah the first MUD was created in 1975 on a PDP-10 2020-11-03T23:57:11 #kisslinux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure 2020-11-03T23:57:17 #kisslinux they used arpanet for that? 2020-11-03T23:57:39 #kisslinux i'd wager not 2020-11-03T23:57:51 #kisslinux ARPA would be pretty pissed if they used it for entertainment 2020-11-03T23:58:05 #kisslinux my bet is that it would have been available via terminal access or something like rsh 2020-11-03T23:58:17 #kisslinux since, you know, it ran on early mainframes 2020-11-03T23:58:23 #kisslinux and minicomputers