2020-11-06T03:32:49 #kisslinux <icyphox> xmn11: Ah I see.
2020-11-06T03:33:10 #kisslinux <icyphox> What would you recommend I do instead?  Given what I'm trying to acheive?
2020-11-06T05:52:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-11-06T05:55:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Firefox 84 should compile under Wayland without the need for any X11 stuff btw
2020-11-06T05:56:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> See: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1661450
2020-11-06T06:03:58 #kisslinux <icyphox> KISS has Wayland now?
2020-11-06T06:04:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not in the official repositories
2020-11-06T06:04:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> People have been running Wayland under KISS for a long while now
2020-11-06T06:04:48 #kisslinux <icyphox> Ah right.
2020-11-06T06:04:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's trivial to setup for yourself (packages needed are few)
2020-11-06T06:05:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My repository is here: https://github.com/dylanaraps/wayland-experiment
2020-11-06T06:05:19 #kisslinux <icyphox> Nice
2020-11-06T06:05:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also: https://github.com/Himmalerin/kiss-wayland
2020-11-06T06:05:32 #kisslinux <icyphox> I don't use KISS right now, though :)
2020-11-06T06:06:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What are you using?
2020-11-06T06:06:15 #kisslinux <icyphox> OpenBSD
2020-11-06T06:06:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-11-06T06:06:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I like OpenBSD
2020-11-06T06:06:27 #kisslinux <icyphox> Been running it for the past 8+ months
2020-11-06T06:06:29 #kisslinux <icyphox> Indeed
2020-11-06T06:06:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> git.k1ss.org runs on it
2020-11-06T06:06:36 #kisslinux <icyphox> Ah nice
2020-11-06T06:06:39 #kisslinux <icyphox> Where are you hosting it?
2020-11-06T06:06:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> vultr
2020-11-06T06:06:52 #kisslinux <icyphox> Thought as much
2020-11-06T06:06:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> $5 VPS
2020-11-06T06:06:58 #kisslinux <icyphox> Neat
2020-11-06T06:07:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The server's only job is to serve some static pages after all
2020-11-06T06:07:51 #kisslinux <icyphox> What git UI is that? Doesn't look like cgit
2020-11-06T06:08:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> stagit
2020-11-06T06:08:21 #kisslinux <icyphox> Nice
2020-11-06T06:08:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> http://git.2f30.org/stagit/
2020-11-06T06:08:25 #kisslinux <icyphox> Does it support custom CSS?
2020-11-06T06:08:35 #kisslinux <icyphox> Apparently yes
2020-11-06T06:08:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-11-06T06:08:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It just spits out some html
2020-11-06T06:08:54 #kisslinux <icyphox> Awesome
2020-11-06T06:09:07 #kisslinux <icyphox> I'm not a huge fan of cgit's CGI thing
2020-11-06T06:09:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The only downside for me is no nested file hierarchy
2020-11-06T06:09:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's flat
2020-11-06T06:10:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> See: https://git.k1ss.org/repo/files.html
2020-11-06T06:10:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No big deal. Just a picky thing
2020-11-06T06:10:24 #kisslinux <icyphox> I hadn't noticed that
2020-11-06T06:10:43 #kisslinux <icyphox> Yeah that can get pretty unweildy with huge file trees
2020-11-06T15:35:22 #kisslinux <icyphox> E5ten: I'm finding Elantris quite hard to get through lol
2020-11-06T15:36:49 #kisslinux <E5ten> It's probably worse than I remember it, I didn't have standards for Sanderson books at that point because it was the first one I read
2020-11-06T15:37:43 #kisslinux <E5ten> Hopefully you get through it before RoW comes out lol
2020-11-06T15:42:39 #kisslinux <dilyn>
2020-11-06T16:12:06 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> Is the youtube-dl bump ok to install?
2020-11-06T16:12:27 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> 2020.11.01.1-1
2020-11-06T17:39:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> re firefox built with no xlibs: shocking if true
2020-11-06T17:39:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> this doesn't extend to its libglvnd requirement tho does it? so mesa would still require a hefty number?
2020-11-06T19:22:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> Anyone getting segmentation faults from kiss?
2020-11-06T19:22:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> Specifically during download of sources
2020-11-06T19:23:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> weird
2020-11-06T19:23:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> rebuild curl?
2020-11-06T19:23:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> for reference, wget, curl, git, etc all work fine on their own
2020-11-06T19:23:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> very weird
2020-11-06T19:23:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> Yeah.
2020-11-06T19:24:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> I was sitting here watching a movie, went to build mpv because mplayer keeps desyncing, and that's when I started to notice segfaults
2020-11-06T19:24:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> oddly enough it works on some packages, and not on others
2020-11-06T19:25:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> (such as kiss itself)
2020-11-06T19:25:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...oh, actually, just tested curl using a URL itself. It's a DNS error.
2020-11-06T19:26:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> Because of fucking course.
2020-11-06T19:26:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> lmfaoooo
2020-11-06T19:26:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> no idea how a DNS error results in a segmentation violation but whatever
2020-11-06T19:26:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> something something libc something something networking
2020-11-06T19:26:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> Maybe that's it. I'd use muslc if my programs would compile with it :|
2020-11-06T19:27:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> but instead I'm stuck with glibc
2020-11-06T19:27:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> okay, now it's just getting weird
2020-11-06T19:27:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> because I totally can resolve for the site... *sigh*
2020-11-06T19:28:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> Gonna just try to manually update the package manager I guess >:v
2020-11-06T19:30:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's pretty easy
2020-11-06T19:30:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> doesn't seem like there's any breaking changes that would prevent a drop in replacement
2020-11-06T19:30:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> no it's just backporting some stuff
2020-11-06T19:30:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> cool beans
2020-11-06T19:30:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> dylan's holding off on the 6.0 release so in the meantime we just get a bunch of qol and bug fixes
2020-11-06T19:30:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> Well, hey, polishing is always a good use of resources
2020-11-06T19:31:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> features don't mean shit if the thing is held together with spit, hopes and dreams
2020-11-06T19:31:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> and probably some perl for good measure
2020-11-06T19:31:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> piss, my perl implementation of kiss
2020-11-06T19:31:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> *spits out tea*
2020-11-06T19:32:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> ...although considering that kiss does a lot of text parsing this is one of the few usecases it might work
2020-11-06T19:32:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> I've been half-thinking about rewriting kiss in Lua, actually, just as an exercise
2020-11-06T19:34:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> h m m m m
2020-11-06T19:34:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> even after updating kiss manually it still segfaults
2020-11-06T19:34:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> this is super janky
2020-11-06T19:34:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> is there a way to like
2020-11-06T19:34:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> step through a shell script, outside of typing commands out one at a time?
2020-11-06T19:37:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh, never mind. figured out the issue
2020-11-06T19:37:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> what was it!
2020-11-06T19:37:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> something in my hosts file is fucking with curl. but only within kiss.
2020-11-06T19:37:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> ew
2020-11-06T19:37:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's what I get for dumping two and a half megs' worth of junk into it
2020-11-06T19:37:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> (adblocking, before you ask)
2020-11-06T19:42:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> there's probably a better way xD
2020-11-06T19:42:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> mfw X decided to randomly kick me out of my session
2020-11-06T19:42:45 #kisslinux <midfavila> today is full of headaches
2020-11-06T19:44:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> i've been trying to figure out why gtk+3 wouldn't build and I've been endlessly searching header files and rebuilding things all afternoon
2020-11-06T19:45:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> only to discover that the symbols somehow just get eaten when using thin lto
2020-11-06T19:47:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> god mocks us
2020-11-06T21:42:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> Hey, quick question for anyone here who uses openntpd instead of busybox. How do you change the value of NTPD_HOME? Doing a quick search online, people suggest /etc/conf.d/ntpd, but this doesn't work (seems to not even be detected)
2020-11-06T21:43:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> exporting the value in the shell changes nothing, and trying to set it in /etc/ntpd.conf results in a syntax error
2020-11-06T22:27:28 #kisslinux <micr0> neeasade o/ from another RC alumn
2020-11-06T22:27:47 #kisslinux <neeasade> micr0: hihi
2020-11-06T22:29:20 #kisslinux <micr0> logged into zulip for the first time in ages
2020-11-06T22:37:59 #kisslinux <neeasade> micr0: oh nice lol. it's the cusp of new batch time, and also "neeasade breathes a little life into the #emacs stream" time
2020-11-06T22:42:43 #kisslinux <micr0> yeah i think my ship has sailed for trying out emacs
2020-11-06T22:43:28 #kisslinux <micr0> maybe i'll give it another whirls one day - i used to try almost every vim or sublime-ish editor out there but am settling with stuff like spacevim nowadays
2020-11-06T22:44:10 #kisslinux <neeasade> I feel you, I'm pretty dug in and can't be arsed to try out one of the "emacs kits"
2020-11-06T23:09:23 #kisslinux <micr0> just for the logs, i cannot get microphone working with firefox - getusermedia asks for it, and even with apulse, no sound is recorded
2020-11-06T23:09:25 #kisslinux <micr0> arecord works fine
2020-11-06T23:20:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> mcf I finally got it to freeze in debug mode
2020-11-06T23:20:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> so its not something with optimization
2020-11-06T23:21:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> Still no useful info from gdb though
2020-11-06T23:21:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> but got a little more from strace