2021-04-18T00:12:03 #kisslinux it's a PERMISSIONS problem on SIGNING the emails. jesus. 2021-04-18T00:12:09 #kisslinux the server might be wonky for a minute 2021-04-18T01:12:29 #kisslinux it's always a permissions problem 2021-04-18T01:14:58 #kisslinux the problem is that for this mail server i had to make like 7 users and groups and it's nonobvious who needs to read what 2021-04-18T01:15:19 #kisslinux except for this one. this one was obvious, and I'm a dumb who used -R when I shouldn't have 2021-04-18T02:19:02 #kisslinux I am installing kiss, but i Cant get it to boot. I am using efibootmgr, and [these](https://pastebin.com/CcsFrV2V) are the commands I used to install kiss. If anyone knows what I did wrong, plz tell me. 2021-04-18T02:21:05 #kisslinux the vmlinuz location is relative to /boot, not / 2021-04-18T02:21:53 #kisslinux so it should just be '-l vmlinuz-5.11.15' 2021-04-18T02:22:08 #kisslinux thx 2021-04-18T02:22:13 #kisslinux Will try this 2021-04-18T02:46:39 #kisslinux Ok now it boots but I get an error saying "VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown block" "Please append a correct root= boot option here are the available options nvme0n1 /dev/nvme0n1p1 /dev/nvme0n1p2 Even though I changed the efibootmgr command to "efibootmgr -c -d /dev/nvme0n1 -p 1 -L "Kiss" -l vmlinuz-5.11.15 root=/dev/nvme0n1p2" 2021-04-18T02:46:55 #kisslinux what do I do now? 2021-04-18T02:50:18 #kisslinux was that supposed to be '... -l vmlinuz-5.11.15 -u 'root=/dev/nvme0n1p2'? 2021-04-18T02:53:06 #kisslinux test message 2021-04-18T02:53:11 #kisslinux suh 2021-04-18T02:53:17 #kisslinux nice 2021-04-18T02:53:21 #kisslinux switching from soju to pounce 2021-04-18T02:53:23 #kisslinux all hail june 2021-04-18T02:53:30 #kisslinux nicenice 2021-04-18T02:53:40 #kisslinux I hope that I wasn't bouncing earlier or anything 2021-04-18T02:53:58 #kisslinux nope 2021-04-18T02:54:01 #kisslinux awesome 2021-04-18T02:55:14 #kisslinux Will using -u fix it, or are there other issues too 2021-04-18T02:55:40 #kisslinux using -u should fix it; because the kernel gave you a list of options it means it can see your partitions just fine 2021-04-18T02:56:03 #kisslinux Thank you 2021-04-18T02:56:11 #kisslinux ofc 2021-04-18T02:58:12 #kisslinux Thank you so much, it works! 2021-04-18T02:58:18 #kisslinux hooray! 2021-04-18T02:59:00 #kisslinux woot woot 2021-04-18T03:02:28 #kisslinux gtg, thank you guys! 2021-04-18T03:02:35 #kisslinux gngn have fun 2021-04-18T03:40:03 #kisslinux Hi 2021-04-18T03:48:21 #kisslinux hihi 2021-04-18T04:06:53 #kisslinux also yes the ML archive was down for a while; that was mostly because nobody had used it since I made the post! 2021-04-18T04:07:11 #kisslinux but we got a few mails in so I quick threw together an index for the page, and now you can it in all its glory :) 2021-04-18T04:38:59 #kisslinux ah. how exciting https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/84271 2021-04-18T06:05:02 #kisslinux the first PR for LLVM12 support should be https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/81451, however I have no idea for now on which commits since merging that patch to cherrypick so I can backport it to 1.51 2021-04-18T06:10:49 #kisslinux for big projects it's always hard to track :X 2021-04-18T09:22:36 #kisslinux hai 2021-04-18T09:23:13 #kisslinux hi 2021-04-18T09:23:21 #kisslinux question, Do I need a Linux root partition over a standard Linux filesystem partition? 2021-04-18T09:25:13 #kisslinux I've decided to completely wipe off windows from the laptop and not bother with dual-booting 2021-04-18T09:25:51 #kisslinux mostly because windows doesn't want to dual boot  and I think bit locker doesn't like bring resized like a normal FS 2021-04-18T10:48:53 #kisslinux dilyn: the community archive is 404 2021-04-18T10:53:00 #kisslinux probably cuz nothing has been sent there yet 2021-04-18T10:53:02 #kisslinux or has it ? 2021-04-18T11:08:30 #kisslinux I'm having trouble figuring out what firmware blobs I need, I'm using `lsmod` and `lspci` but I still don't quite understand 2021-04-18T11:08:45 #kisslinux I've got the AMD microcode and intel wifi stuff 2021-04-18T11:08:51 #kisslinux but little else 2021-04-18T11:09:30 #kisslinux you need for your gpu too 2021-04-18T11:10:37 #kisslinux I know but I don't know which one 2021-04-18T11:10:48 #kisslinux wait 2021-04-18T11:11:16 #kisslinux I mean, I know it's renoir 2021-04-18T11:11:37 #kisslinux do I just need everthing that's 2021-04-18T11:11:49 #kisslinux `amdgpu/renoir_*` 2021-04-18T11:16:13 #kisslinux just copy everything first, rebboot, if it works, check at the dmesg log to see the firmware used, and delete the rest 2021-04-18T11:16:17 #kisslinux s/rebboot/reboot/ 2021-04-18T11:16:17 #kisslinux just copy everything first, reboot, if it works, check at the dmesg log to see the firmware used, and delete the rest 2021-04-18T11:30:22 #kisslinux found this `modinfo $(lsmod | cut -d' ' -f 1) | awk '/filename/{fn=$2;} /license/{print $2, fn;}'` 2021-04-18T11:30:43 #kisslinux it  show the license and filename of every loaded module: 2021-04-18T11:30:56 #kisslinux got it from https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1591753#p1591753 2021-04-18T13:33:37 #kisslinux testuser_: there's been some stuff there 2021-04-18T13:33:50 #kisslinux including 3 versions of my patches lol 2021-04-18T13:51:27 #kisslinux Hmm 2021-04-18T13:58:13 #kisslinux how do I figure out what firmware blobs have been loaded? or do I have to go though `dmesg`? 2021-04-18T13:58:29 #kisslinux because there's not a lot about firmware stuff on it 2021-04-18T14:19:34 #kisslinux konimex: I see in the wyverkiss tracker issue for things needing GNU software to build that nasm isn't checked, iirc I made a patch that made it bmake compatible and sent it to you, were there other problems with using it with bmake? or did I not even remember to send that lol? 2021-04-18T14:24:08 #kisslinux oh hmm it's not quite how I remembered it, with autoconf and stuff, this is a patch to the Makefile.in that I think makes it bmake compatible, but I'm not sure how you could apply it to the generated Makefile, and if you can't you'd need autotools anyway so GNU would still be needed http://ix.io/2Ww6 2021-04-18T14:25:18 #kisslinux yep, I did add the patch in 2.15.03, but in 2.15.05 they added something unrelated that made a new error: https://termbin.com/d02d so I removed it 2021-04-18T14:26:19 #kisslinux ah I see, I don't remember the $(shell) thing that the thing I linked replaces being there before, so maybe that was it? 2021-04-18T14:27:06 #kisslinux it might be, but I'm not sure 2021-04-18T14:40:16 #kisslinux test 2021-04-18T14:41:36 #kisslinux Hello there! Someone could help me with openbox sv? 2021-04-18T14:48:29 #kisslinux what about it? 2021-04-18T14:48:34 #kisslinux you don't have to ask to ask 2021-04-18T14:53:33 #kisslinux Hi acheam 2021-04-18T14:54:02 #kisslinux https://pastebin.com/4fs1iXvc 2021-04-18T14:54:08 #kisslinux There you go. 2021-04-18T14:55:26 #kisslinux cd /var/service; ln -s /etc/sv/sshd . did you do this 2021-04-18T14:55:42 #kisslinux reboot if you did it and not working 2021-04-18T14:56:53 #kisslinux hmm, is it regular or ungoogled chromium… 2021-04-18T14:58:05 #kisslinux 4 2021-04-18T14:58:16 #kisslinux whoops, sorry, lent on my keyboard >_< 2021-04-18T15:01:01 #kisslinux Well, looks like it doesn't help at all. This is chroot env under alpine linux, i guess it shouldn't help anyways. 2021-04-18T15:01:19 #kisslinux Any other ideas? 2021-04-18T15:02:04 #kisslinux M4R10zM0113R in community ? 2021-04-18T15:02:51 #kisslinux dKaFucy617DzhBet why do you want to run sshd inside chroot ? 2021-04-18T15:03:34 #kisslinux For testing purposes. 2021-04-18T15:04:15 #kisslinux Bind mount /run from alpine and then `mkdir -p /run/runit/supervise.sshd` 2021-04-18T15:05:19 #kisslinux Hi dilyn 2021-04-18T15:05:23 #kisslinux just do sv up sshd after you link the service sir 2021-04-18T15:05:26 #kisslinux hey testuser_ :) 2021-04-18T15:05:27 #kisslinux I that won't work since it's chroot, that means busybox init and busybox runit aren't running at all 2021-04-18T15:05:39 #kisslinux also ^ 2021-04-18T15:05:42 #kisslinux you're effectively running openrc 2021-04-18T15:09:11 #kisslinux hi testuser_[m] 2021-04-18T15:11:33 #kisslinux I still can't figure out the firmware blob thing :( 2021-04-18T15:14:14 #kisslinux thermatix: try modinfo and lsmod 2021-04-18T15:14:30 #kisslinux for example, "modinfo $(lsmod | cut -d' ' -f 1) | awk '/filename/{fn=$2;} /license/{print $2, fn;}'" 2021-04-18T15:14:38 #kisslinux ^ stolen from https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=207045 2021-04-18T15:15:14 #kisslinux I saw that 2021-04-18T15:15:28 #kisslinux thing is, I don't know how to match the kernel modules to the correct firmware blob 2021-04-18T15:17:04 #kisslinux hmm yeah not sure 2021-04-18T15:17:09 #kisslinux there definately is a way of doing it 2021-04-18T15:17:11 #kisslinux this is all I've figured out https://pastebin.com/vim8HwXN 2021-04-18T15:17:43 #kisslinux one thing though, from `lspci -k` most of the stuff is AMD 2021-04-18T15:17:55 #kisslinux then does that mean loading the AMD firmware is enough for all those things? 2021-04-18T15:18:02 #kisslinux that would be alot of motherboard stuff 2021-04-18T15:18:08 #kisslinux which you shouldn't have to worry about 2021-04-18T15:18:45 #kisslinux Well I still need to figure out what I need for the SD card reader 2021-04-18T15:18:54 #kisslinux as for the actual kernel option, it's doing to be in the wireless cards under device drivers, check the intel box and a huge selection should appear 2021-04-18T15:18:59 #kisslinux which is an 02 micro SD/MMC 2021-04-18T15:19:30 #kisslinux just click 'help' on a bunch of them, see what they say. they'll tell you the name of the module, lspci -k in arch would tell you what module is loaded for each device. match 'em up 2021-04-18T15:19:32 #kisslinux but I haven't found naything 2021-04-18T15:19:53 #kisslinux does module = firmware blob? 2021-04-18T15:20:14 #kisslinux question 2021-04-18T15:20:41 #kisslinux do I need to preserve the location? 2021-04-18T15:20:42 #kisslinux like 2021-04-18T15:21:11 #kisslinux if it's in the amdgpu folder does it need to be in the amdgpu folder inside of /usr/lib/firmware? 2021-04-18T15:21:14 #kisslinux module != firmware blob 2021-04-18T15:21:35 #kisslinux the firmware's locations in the kernel config are relative to the firmware dir 2021-04-18T15:22:00 #kisslinux so if it's in /usr/lib/firmware/amdgpu, firmware dir = /usr/lib/firmware and the firmware is /amdgpu/firmwarename.bin 2021-04-18T15:23:01 #kisslinux ah... whoops 2021-04-18T15:24:56 #kisslinux should I just save myself the bother and copy all the firmware blobs? 2021-04-18T15:25:34 #kisslinux and not the specific ones I need? 2021-04-18T15:25:47 #kisslinux if you don't mind wasting the disk space sure 2021-04-18T15:26:11 #kisslinux I have nearly 500GB 2021-04-18T15:26:14 #kisslinux it should be fine 2021-04-18T15:26:24 #kisslinux because I'm done with this 2021-04-18T15:26:40 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-18T15:27:26 #kisslinux god, why is there no list of Laptop model X needs firmware blobs Y 2021-04-18T15:29:19 #kisslinux https://pastebin.com/bXq2RSYv 2021-04-18T15:29:22 #kisslinux Doesn't work. 2021-04-18T15:29:40 #kisslinux @dil 2021-04-18T15:29:42 #kisslinux ... 2021-04-18T15:31:04 #kisslinux dilyn do I need to set `export $CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE`? 2021-04-18T15:31:21 #kisslinux or is `export $CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR` enough? 2021-04-18T15:31:34 #kisslinux those are set in the kernel 2021-04-18T15:31:42 #kisslinux so don't worry about them? 2021-04-18T15:31:53 #kisslinux well if you set them in the kernel then yeah 2021-04-18T15:32:00 #kisslinux k 2021-04-18T15:32:14 #kisslinux Any other ideas? 2021-04-18T15:37:06 #kisslinux I'm confused about why you might want to ssh into a chroot 2021-04-18T15:37:16 #kisslinux hello everybody 2021-04-18T15:37:24 #kisslinux hi 2021-04-18T15:37:30 #kisslinux heya 2021-04-18T15:37:44 #kisslinux merakor2: realized your mail was to the list and hit reply - lmk if you get it twice :o 2021-04-18T15:38:01 #kisslinux I want to test work of services in ksl, so i just picked up sshd first. 2021-04-18T15:38:15 #kisslinux ah 2021-04-18T15:38:46 #kisslinux services are just managed busybox, enabled via a symlink and turned on with sv up $service 2021-04-18T15:39:01 #kisslinux there's nothing intelligent about it except it turns them back on if they exit 2021-04-18T15:39:56 #kisslinux Yeah, i know. But i need to test it, due to i don't know will it boot after installing or not. 2021-04-18T15:40:37 #kisslinux ah 2021-04-18T15:47:20 #kisslinux So.. Grub with kernel will boot openbox init as should without these kind of errors, in it? 2021-04-18T15:47:44 #kisslinux what should the default init path be? (I'm guessing where busybox is?) 2021-04-18T15:48:21 #kisslinux /usr/bin? 2021-04-18T15:48:26 #kisslinux didn't know openbox has an init 2021-04-18T15:48:56 #kisslinux default path for init is as always, /bin/init 2021-04-18T15:49:09 #kisslinux thx 2021-04-18T16:02:27 #kisslinux Is there any .cache cleaner for ksl? Like an gentoo perl-cleaner, etc.. 2021-04-18T16:03:27 #kisslinux for the package manager ? 2021-04-18T16:03:37 #kisslinux + 2021-04-18T16:04:02 #kisslinux https://gist.github.com/FriendlyNeighborhoodShane/ffcac3df6d796023d2283a6afdacedbc 2021-04-18T16:04:50 #kisslinux Thank you, kind sir. 2021-04-18T16:09:07 #kisslinux ... discord linux is just... 2021-04-18T16:12:27 #kisslinux Wat 2021-04-18T16:12:33 #kisslinux Its just an electron app 2021-04-18T16:17:05 #kisslinux no I mean the people on it 2021-04-18T16:17:18 #kisslinux since I'm running AMD should I disable intel stuff? 2021-04-18T16:17:26 #kisslinux or is there intel stuff that's just generic to all? 2021-04-18T16:18:01 #kisslinux well, if you dont have any intel hardqare, you may as well. 2021-04-18T16:18:30 #kisslinux but it doesnt matter much 2021-04-18T16:40:03 #kisslinux if you're determining AMD or Intel-specific flags, then pick the one for your hardware. it won't hurt to have both, but it'll increase the size of your kernel slightly 2021-04-18T16:40:04 #kisslinux also 2021-04-18T16:40:07 #kisslinux good morning #kisslinux 2021-04-18T16:48:37 #kisslinux Hi 2021-04-18T16:48:47 #kisslinux hi 2021-04-18T17:23:32 #kisslinux midfavila: good... morning? 2021-04-18T17:23:37 #kisslinux at 2pm? 2021-04-18T17:23:43 #kisslinux half past 2021-04-18T17:23:49 #kisslinux and time is relative doncha know 2021-04-18T17:24:01 #kisslinux "morning" is "before I've had breakfast" 2021-04-18T17:26:04 #kisslinux you should probably have some breakfast 2021-04-18T17:26:20 #kisslinux breakfast is unthawing in the sink 2021-04-18T17:26:32 #kisslinux it's not my fault that I spent four hours reading snow crash 2021-04-18T17:33:53 #kisslinux like, 2021-04-18T17:34:03 #kisslinux how can you not enjoy a book with a main character named "Hiro Protagonist" 2021-04-18T18:30:21 #kisslinux managed to recompile the kernel 2021-04-18T18:30:35 #kisslinux but I didn't do anything about the firmware blobs 2021-04-18T18:41:20 #kisslinux or I was, I'm getting an error when I try to install the modules, it's going `sed: modules.order : no such file or directory; make: *** [Makefile: 1440: _modinst_] Error 1` 2021-04-18T18:44:05 #kisslinux kernel compile might have failed. Scroll up a bit to look for an error 2021-04-18T18:48:11 #kisslinux ah 2021-04-18T18:48:35 #kisslinux Busy box diff unrecognized option: I 2021-04-18T18:49:23 #kisslinux it's in `#scripts/checksyscalls.sh` 2021-04-18T18:49:32 #kisslinux s/#// 2021-04-18T18:49:32 #kisslinux it's in `scripts/checksyscalls.sh` 2021-04-18T18:52:13 #kisslinux I think that's a harmless one that doesn't fail the compile. Is there another error besides `diff` and `find` options? If compile failed, it'll say `make: blah blah blah Error 2` or something like that 2021-04-18T18:56:19 #kisslinux `mktemp: (null):No such file or directory; make[1]: *** [usr/Makefile:80 usr/initramfs_data.cpio] Error 1` 2021-04-18T18:56:30 #kisslinux tch one sec 2021-04-18T18:58:46 #kisslinux d 2021-04-18T18:58:54 #kisslinux hello - 2021-04-18T18:59:35 #kisslinux ok -> https://pastebin.com/ds0ancuA 2021-04-18T18:59:48 #kisslinux there seems to be several of them but I have run the build several times 2021-04-18T19:00:55 #kisslinux it fails on the `$(build-dirs):` step 2021-04-18T19:01:53 #kisslinux `$(Q)$(MAKE) $(build)=$@` 2021-04-18T19:02:26 #kisslinux also hello obiter 2021-04-18T19:02:42 #kisslinux ah - thanks bud 2021-04-18T19:02:42 #kisslinux hello 2021-04-18T19:03:53 #kisslinux im new here - most proberly booted off in a few - lolz 2021-04-18T19:05:30 #kisslinux i wonder if these okes are snuffing my ip 2021-04-18T19:05:38 #kisslinux ..... 2021-04-18T19:07:37 #kisslinux it's ok that your new 2021-04-18T19:07:43 #kisslinux what do you mean snuffing? 2021-04-18T19:07:53 #kisslinux ... 2021-04-18T19:07:53 #kisslinux generally "snuff" means "to kill" 2021-04-18T19:07:59 #kisslinux OH 2021-04-18T19:08:00 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-18T19:08:03 #kisslinux which, considering he just left, makes sense 2021-04-18T19:08:03 #kisslinux right 2021-04-18T19:08:15 #kisslinux what killed his connection? 2021-04-18T19:08:21 #kisslinux or did he just leave? 2021-04-18T19:08:35 #kisslinux if his connection was killed it would be a timeout 2021-04-18T19:09:02 #kisslinux meh 2021-04-18T19:09:03 #kisslinux ...feel so alone in this... 2021-04-18T19:09:10 #kisslinux what's the problem? 2021-04-18T19:09:36 #kisslinux can't much help you if you keep leaving. 2021-04-18T19:09:45 #kisslinux meh 2021-04-18T19:11:30 #kisslinux sooooo... what do you think is causing my kernel build to fail? 2021-04-18T19:11:36 #kisslinux I mean 2021-04-18T19:11:48 #kisslinux I get that it's expecting a folder/file to be some where and it's not 2021-04-18T19:12:08 #kisslinux does /lib/firmware exist 2021-04-18T19:12:14 #kisslinux or, wait 2021-04-18T19:12:15 #kisslinux no 2021-04-18T19:12:18 #kisslinux was it you having firmware problems 2021-04-18T19:12:33 #kisslinux oh 2021-04-18T19:12:39 #kisslinux no, looks like you're having problems with initramfs 2021-04-18T19:12:43 #kisslinux my solution? don't use initramfs 2021-04-18T19:12:48 #kisslinux i'm not? 2021-04-18T19:12:49 #kisslinux unless 2021-04-18T19:13:00 #kisslinux I activated in the kernel config? 2021-04-18T19:13:09 #kisslinux i'd disable it 2021-04-18T19:13:13 #kisslinux where is it? 2021-04-18T19:13:25 #kisslinux idk off the top of my head but it's not hard to find 2021-04-18T19:15:12 #kisslinux found it 2021-04-18T19:15:26 #kisslinux yeah I must have turned it on without realising it :( 2021-04-18T19:15:34 #kisslinux it's enabled by default afaik 2021-04-18T19:15:44 #kisslinux or I just didn't turn it off? 2021-04-18T19:16:10 #kisslinux well, now I know why the build was finishing so quickly... it was erroring XD 2021-04-18T19:17:07 #kisslinux errors are the best build speed optimization 2021-04-18T19:17:23 #kisslinux :D 2021-04-18T19:18:08 #kisslinux I'm not sure what would cause that error. You didn't run out of disk space did you? 2021-04-18T19:18:28 #kisslinux I did try to ask on discord;s #linux channel but they said they wouldn't help as it was a non-supported distro which fair enough but, BUT I wasn't asking a distro specific question I was just asking about firmware blobs 2021-04-18T19:18:35 #kisslinux s/;/' 2021-04-18T19:18:39 #kisslinux s/;/'/ 2021-04-18T19:18:39 #kisslinux I did try to ask on discord's #linux channel but they said they wouldn't help as it was a non-supported distro which fair enough but, BUT I wasn't asking a distro specific question I was just asking about firmware blobs 2021-04-18T19:18:51 #kisslinux anyone who talks about "supported distros" should be ignored 2021-04-18T19:18:57 #kisslinux basic principles transcend distros. 2021-04-18T19:19:20 #kisslinux  Litteraly:  `"Doesn't matter, it's an unsupported distro.  We won't provide support until you move to a supported distro."` 2021-04-18T19:19:38 #kisslinux tell them to stop being pricks who shill debian and red hat clones 2021-04-18T19:19:43 #kisslinux oh AND and 2021-04-18T19:19:47 #kisslinux `"Again, providing support would be us condoning your use of a non-sane distribution."` 2021-04-18T19:20:00 #kisslinux so I just responded with: `"I don't see it that way but I'm not interested in arguing so let's leave it at that 2021-04-18T19:20:00 #kisslinux "` 2021-04-18T19:20:10 #kisslinux >non-sane 2021-04-18T19:20:18 #kisslinux what's a sane distro in their eyes 2021-04-18T19:20:38 #kisslinux like i said, I could understand if  I was asking a specific distro related question but I wasn't 2021-04-18T19:20:46 #kisslinux just... get off of discord? 2021-04-18T19:20:51 #kisslinux eh 2021-04-18T19:20:56 #kisslinux I tend to mostly ignore it 2021-04-18T19:21:13 #kisslinux and only use it when I need it (and can't find it elsewhere) 2021-04-18T19:22:12 #kisslinux dicksword, reddit, hecker noose, etc are all cringe and filled with dunning-krugers anyway 2021-04-18T19:22:25 #kisslinux *I* only get my advice from the most professional of sources 2021-04-18T19:22:29 #kisslinux e.g #kisslinux 2021-04-18T19:22:46 #kisslinux .. XD 2021-04-18T19:22:47 #kisslinux HA HA 2021-04-18T19:22:53 #kisslinux the guy's name was KRUUG 2021-04-18T19:22:54 #kisslinux XD 2021-04-18T19:23:10 #kisslinux cos you said "... filled with dunning-krugers anyway" 2021-04-18T19:23:14 #kisslinux ... 2021-04-18T19:23:19 #kisslinux well I thought it was amusing 2021-04-18T19:23:24 #kisslinux all that electron usage is messing their brain lol 2021-04-18T19:23:42 #kisslinux i uh, having other issue now 2021-04-18T19:23:49 #kisslinux trying to install modules 2021-04-18T19:23:54 #kisslinux it's failing with 2021-04-18T19:24:13 #kisslinux `mktemp: (null): no such file or directory` 2021-04-18T19:24:16 #kisslinux after 2021-04-18T19:24:29 #kisslinux `DEPMOD 5.11.13-zen1` 2021-04-18T19:25:50 #kisslinux ah zen kernel? That's an unsupported kernel (I kid) 2021-04-18T19:26:20 #kisslinux it worked on the VM 2021-04-18T19:26:29 #kisslinux and the kernel built successfully 2021-04-18T19:28:11 #kisslinux any clues from `df` output? 2021-04-18T19:29:35 #kisslinux it was complaining about there not being a `/procs/mounts` 2021-04-18T19:29:38 #kisslinux so I added it 2021-04-18T19:29:44 #kisslinux but module install still fails 2021-04-18T19:30:01 #kisslinux but I doubt it's a lack of space 2021-04-18T19:30:06 #kisslinux have many many GBs 2021-04-18T19:33:08 #kisslinux I was thinking more of tmpfs full or something. I don't know the error; that's all I can think of 2021-04-18T19:33:41 #kisslinux I don't think I've ever even seen a tmpfs fill up... 2021-04-18T19:34:00 #kisslinux they can for sure 2021-04-18T19:34:10 #kisslinux i've seen it warned about in the obsd manual too 2021-04-18T19:34:13 #kisslinux not sayin' they can't, just not something I've ever seen 2021-04-18T19:34:24 #kisslinux ofc 2021-04-18T19:34:41 #kisslinux although I should probably set up a cronjob to regularly clean tmpfs 2021-04-18T19:34:43 #kisslinux I have several times. I guess I abuse it though 2021-04-18T19:34:54 #kisslinux you mirroring Wikipedia to your tmpfs? 2021-04-18T19:35:11 #kisslinux * midfavila closes their several Wikipedia tabs... 2021-04-18T19:36:05 #kisslinux I can't remember. I was probably untarring stuff and building code in /tmp 2021-04-18T19:39:55 #kisslinux easy to fill up tmpfs if you only have 4GB of ram and build firefox + deps 2021-04-18T19:50:46 #kisslinux solved the problem! 2021-04-18T19:50:56 #kisslinux turns out there wasn't a `/tmp` folder :P 2021-04-18T19:52:16 #kisslinux that'd do it! 2021-04-18T19:54:46 #kisslinux i think i have another problem 2021-04-18T19:54:55 #kisslinux my proc folder's empty 2021-04-18T19:55:04 #kisslinux so things like fdisk arn't working 2021-04-18T19:56:52 #kisslinux nvm 2021-04-18T19:56:53 #kisslinux fixed 2021-04-18T19:56:59 #kisslinux needed to manually mount it 2021-04-18T20:36:57 #kisslinux well this is problematic 2021-04-18T20:37:12 #kisslinux If i boot with UEFI then I can't boot via the USB stick 2021-04-18T20:37:31 #kisslinux but If I boot legacy then I can but then I can't setup UEFI for kiss 2021-04-18T20:41:09 #kisslinux this sounds like a win-win for me 2021-04-18T20:41:18 #kisslinux UEFI tribe bad 2021-04-18T20:41:20 #kisslinux BIOS tribe good 2021-04-18T20:42:08 #kisslinux I want UEFI 2021-04-18T20:42:16 #kisslinux but this laptop 2021-04-18T20:42:23 #kisslinux UEFI TRIBE BAD 2021-04-18T20:42:26 #kisslinux no discussion 2021-04-18T20:42:28 #kisslinux y? 2021-04-18T20:42:33 #kisslinux convince me 2021-04-18T20:43:21 #kisslinux because generally speaking it offers no practical benefits, especially to linux users. BIOS is simpler, and should be used unless there's an explicit need for one of UEFI's features 2021-04-18T20:43:22 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs 2021-04-18T20:43:45 #kisslinux UEFI's features? 2021-04-18T20:44:07 #kisslinux big one is that it has secure boot 2021-04-18T20:44:17 #kisslinux which... is completely useless, in most situations... 2021-04-18T20:44:17 #kisslinux which I've turned off... 2021-04-18T20:44:36 #kisslinux another is that I believe BIOS eventually hits a limit for disks that it can recognize. don't quote me on that 2021-04-18T20:44:46 #kisslinux either way, that's also largely irrelevant, at least for now 2021-04-18T20:45:03 #kisslinux i don't know anyone who uses an 8TB drive or something like that in a laptop. 2021-04-18T20:45:24 #kisslinux ...I guess there's also the fact that UEFI can run executables of a specific format directly..? 2021-04-18T20:45:40 #kisslinux let me guess 2021-04-18T20:45:41 #kisslinux so if you've ever wanted to play DOOM without an OS, there you go 2021-04-18T20:45:43 #kisslinux not ELF 2021-04-18T20:45:48 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-18T20:45:48 #kisslinux i don't think it's elf, no 2021-04-18T20:46:00 #kisslinux pretty sure it's something microsoft was involved in 2021-04-18T20:46:17 #kisslinux ELF has a lot of stuff that requires a full-blown OS to interpret it IIRC 2021-04-18T20:46:30 #kisslinux according to the osdev wiki it's basically a simplified windows executable 2021-04-18T20:46:30 #kisslinux whereas DOS' COM files are just raw machine code 2021-04-18T20:46:39 #kisslinux uuuuuhhhhhhh 2021-04-18T20:46:42 #kisslinux are you sure about that 2021-04-18T20:47:08 #kisslinux literally just quoting the preview of its search result 2021-04-18T20:47:13 #kisslinux like, generally speaking, yes, sort of 2021-04-18T20:47:23 #kisslinux just like farbfeld is just a simplified version of png 2021-04-18T20:47:47 #kisslinux "UEFI executables are regular PE32 / PE32+ (Windows x32 / x64) images, with a specific subsystem. Every UEFI application is basically a windows EXE (or DLL) without symbol tables." 2021-04-18T20:48:05 #kisslinux https://wiki.osdev.org/UEFI 2021-04-18T20:49:09 #kisslinux which is all very un-linux-esq 2021-04-18T20:49:09 #kisslinux Oh. I thought we were speaking ELF and Windows 2021-04-18T20:49:12 #kisslinux right? 2021-04-18T20:49:19 #kisslinux nvm mid 2021-04-18T20:49:19 #kisslinux yes 2021-04-18T20:49:50 #kisslinux ok fine, is it possible to switch to bios boot? 2021-04-18T20:49:59 #kisslinux becuase I've forgotten how to set that up >_< 2021-04-18T20:50:00 #kisslinux just switch the boot mode to "Legacy boot" 2021-04-18T20:50:05 #kisslinux It should be possible, check your bios settings 2021-04-18T20:50:06 #kisslinux no i mean the partitions stuff 2021-04-18T20:50:09 #kisslinux ah 2021-04-18T20:50:10 #kisslinux that's easy 2021-04-18T20:50:18 #kisslinux bios stuff I can do 2021-04-18T20:50:37 #kisslinux just make a /boot partition, dump your kernel and applicable bootloader configurations on there 2021-04-18T20:50:51 #kisslinux follow the BIOS install process for it (usually just foo-command --install /dev/sdx) 2021-04-18T20:50:53 #kisslinux and I mount it at /boot 2021-04-18T20:50:59 #kisslinux and then mark the partition as bootable using fdisk 2021-04-18T20:54:53 #kisslinux acheam sotd suggestion https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=2gv_Uil_62k 2021-04-18T21:30:22 #kisslinux I solved the EFI problem 2021-04-18T21:30:36 #kisslinux by switching to ubuntu 2021-04-18T21:30:39 #kisslinux also what's funny is that 2021-04-18T21:30:51 #kisslinux puppy linux worked with the touchpad no trouble, ubuntu don't 2021-04-18T21:31:01 #kisslinux ah, ok I lie, it's working now 2021-04-18T21:32:12 #kisslinux thanks midfavila 2021-04-18T21:32:18 #kisslinux yw bby 2021-04-18T22:10:31 #kisslinux oh its the anprim anthem again 2021-04-18T22:12:36 #kisslinux it's always time for the anprim anthem 2021-04-18T22:12:43 #kisslinux holy crap that guy makes 31k off patreon 2021-04-18T22:12:54 #kisslinux internet shitposting can be very profitable 2021-04-18T22:21:37 #kisslinux new song word 2021-04-18T22:21:45 #kisslinux I hope this somewhat appeases you mid 2021-04-18T22:21:51 #kisslinux it does not 2021-04-18T22:21:54 #kisslinux i am displeased 2021-04-18T22:21:55 #kisslinux too bad 2021-04-18T22:22:00 #kisslinux >:V 2021-04-18T22:22:02 #kisslinux I have the @ in front of my name 2021-04-18T22:22:13 #kisslinux @sshole more like 2021-04-18T22:22:15 #kisslinux absolutely btfod 2021-04-18T22:22:40 #kisslinux but I suppose, just this once, I can settle 2021-04-18T22:22:50 #kisslinux if you can settle, I can settle 2021-04-18T22:23:10 #kisslinux https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=0tdyU_gW6WE 2021-04-18T22:23:34 #kisslinux okaaaay 2021-04-18T22:23:36 #kisslinux tomorrow 2021-04-18T22:25:31 #kisslinux thermatix: to make a UEFI linux usb you just do cat distro.iso > /dev/sdXY 2021-04-18T22:25:45 #kisslinux >make a uefi linux usb 2021-04-18T22:25:50 #kisslinux it doesn't matter either way 2021-04-18T22:25:56 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-18T22:25:58 #kisslinux I'm going to bed, g'night 2021-04-18T22:26:01 #kisslinux gngn 2021-04-18T22:26:10 #kisslinux also, switchign to ubuntu solved the issue :p 2021-04-18T22:26:22 #kisslinux s/switchign/switching/ 2021-04-18T22:26:22 #kisslinux also, switching to ubuntu solved the issue :p 2021-04-18T22:31:06 #kisslinux guys i've done it 2021-04-18T22:31:10 #kisslinux I've been accused of spreading FUD 2021-04-18T22:31:17 #kisslinux I hope Dylan is proud of me :') 2021-04-18T22:31:18 #kisslinux welcome to the club 2021-04-18T22:31:42 #kisslinux it's great because you definitely spread more FUD than I do lmao 2021-04-18T22:32:02 #kisslinux but we're one in the same, mid 2021-04-18T22:32:11 #kisslinux FUD is a stupid term 2021-04-18T22:32:24 #kisslinux it's just a way to shut down your opponent without engaging with their arguments. smh 2021-04-18T22:32:38 #kisslinux how apt, that's exactly what they did :o 2021-04-18T22:32:46 #kisslinux it also reeks of reddit-tier bullshit 2021-04-18T22:32:58 #kisslinux right again! 2021-04-18T22:33:04 #kisslinux or, more accurately, HN 2021-04-18T22:33:11 #kisslinux I would never go there 2021-04-18T22:33:12 #kisslinux but HN is just reddit mixed with quora 2021-04-18T22:33:22 #kisslinux hn isn't terrible 2021-04-18T22:33:23 #kisslinux and that's exactly why! mid is on point today 2021-04-18T22:33:24 #kisslinux i am ashamed to admit that I once had a quora account 2021-04-18T22:33:30 #kisslinux at least its computer focuses 2021-04-18T22:33:32 #kisslinux hn is fucking awful acheam 2021-04-18T22:33:39 #kisslinux its better than reddit 2021-04-18T22:33:41 #kisslinux the only worse site is lobste.rs 2021-04-18T22:33:44 #kisslinux which isn't saying a lot 2021-04-18T22:33:46 #kisslinux >better than reddit 2021-04-18T22:33:46 #kisslinux any social place on the internet is bound to be awful 2021-04-18T22:33:48 #kisslinux exceptionally low bar 2021-04-18T22:33:53 #kisslinux *exceedingly* low 2021-04-18T22:33:54 #kisslinux including here, dilyn 2021-04-18T22:33:58 #kisslinux well 2021-04-18T22:33:59 #kisslinux :v 2021-04-18T22:34:00 #kisslinux we admit we're trash 2021-04-18T22:34:00 #kisslinux i didn't say it 2021-04-18T22:34:03 #kisslinux ^ 2021-04-18T22:34:06 #kisslinux so we're at least honest 2021-04-18T22:34:08 #kisslinux lmfao 2021-04-18T22:36:33 #kisslinux speaking of trash 2021-04-18T22:36:37 #kisslinux i don't want to cook 2021-04-18T22:36:42 #kisslinux should I order pizza or tendies 2021-04-18T22:36:50 #kisslinux i'm considering tendies ngl 2021-04-18T22:37:37 #kisslinux i'm doing pizza 2021-04-18T22:37:41 #kisslinux so to be different than me 2021-04-18T22:37:42 #kisslinux tendies 2021-04-18T22:38:34 #kisslinux you make a very good argument 2021-04-18T22:38:39 #kisslinux i had pizza for lunch 2021-04-18T22:38:43 #kisslinux so now neither of you can have it 2021-04-18T22:38:53 #kisslinux watch me >=| 2021-04-18T22:43:12 #kisslinux >the only worse site is lobste.rs 2021-04-18T22:43:19 #kisslinux yes, kiedtl 2021-04-18T22:43:22 #kisslinux lobsters is dogshit 2021-04-18T22:43:27 #kisslinux I'm here to give my opinions on lobsters, fite me midfavila! 2021-04-18T22:43:58 #kisslinux Also, can I introduce you to 4chan 2021-04-18T22:44:14 #kisslinux the only bad boards on 4chan are /b/, /pol/, and /r9k/ 2021-04-18T22:44:23 #kisslinux also /v/ 2021-04-18T22:44:37 #kisslinux anyone who's been online for half a day knows this 2021-04-18T22:45:10 #kisslinux >the only bad boards on 4chan 2021-04-18T22:45:27 #kisslinux All of 4chan is flaming shit 2021-04-18T22:45:38 #kisslinux uh huh. 2021-04-18T22:45:46 #kisslinux change my mind 2021-04-18T22:45:54 #kisslinux have you ever been on /wpg/ 2021-04-18T22:46:02 #kisslinux they have some pretty great wallpapers 2021-04-18T22:46:14 #kisslinux midfavila browses /hm/ confirmed 2021-04-18T22:46:19 #kisslinux So there's this thing called unsplash, mid 2021-04-18T22:46:29 #kisslinux You should check it out sometime >:P 2021-04-18T22:46:32 #kisslinux there's also this thing called #000000 2021-04-18T22:46:40 #kisslinux i doubt either has my particular brand of autism available 2021-04-18T22:46:41 #kisslinux #eeeeee is better! 2021-04-18T22:46:47 #kisslinux #FFFFFF? 2021-04-18T22:46:50 #kisslinux light gray!? 2021-04-18T22:46:51 #kisslinux why? 2021-04-18T22:46:57 #kisslinux light themes! :> 2021-04-18T22:47:04 #kisslinux grey is the superior color 2021-04-18T22:47:05 #kisslinux light theme lovers unite 2021-04-18T22:47:18 #kisslinux s/superior/best/ 2021-04-18T22:47:18 #kisslinux grey is the best color 2021-04-18T22:47:31 #kisslinux gotta be careful with the terminology here 2021-04-18T22:47:50 #kisslinux 4chan is a strange site. watching those boards evolve over the course of the years has been... unsettling 2021-04-18T22:47:50 #kisslinux where my #d5d6d7 fans at 2021-04-18T22:47:50 #kisslinux also 2021-04-18T22:47:55 #kisslinux flat light theme is garbage 2021-04-18T22:47:58 #kisslinux as is flat dark theme 2021-04-18T22:47:59 #kisslinux I miss good /b/. bring back anons and green text 2021-04-18T22:48:04 #kisslinux >good 2021-04-18T22:48:05 #kisslinux >b 2021-04-18T22:48:09 #kisslinux mfw 2021-04-18T22:48:15 #kisslinux b was never good 2021-04-18T22:48:17 #kisslinux lmfao 2021-04-18T22:48:38 #kisslinux oh dang dylanaraps is still AFK 2021-04-18T22:48:40 #kisslinux TIL 2021-04-18T22:48:49 #kisslinux unlikely that dylan will return 2021-04-18T22:48:57 #kisslinux f 2021-04-18T22:49:06 #kisslinux f 2021-04-18T22:49:14 #kisslinux everything was peaceful until the red hat nation attacked 2021-04-18T22:49:23 #kisslinux kiedtl: you are in the cuties club. 2021-04-18T22:49:23 #kisslinux so we called upon him... the ultimate meme man 2021-04-18T22:49:30 #kisslinux but when we needed him most, he vanished 2021-04-18T22:49:54 #kisslinux now, me and my friends have found a *new* meme man 2021-04-18T22:50:08 #kisslinux ...I need to rewatch Avatar some time. Good show. 2021-04-18T22:50:21 #kisslinux neeasade: heh 2021-04-18T22:51:28 #kisslinux also, 2021-04-18T22:51:32 #kisslinux >unsplash 2021-04-18T22:51:32 #kisslinux >stock images 2021-04-18T22:51:37 #kisslinux no thanks 2021-04-18T22:51:48 #kisslinux i don't want hide the pain harold to greet me when I log in 2021-04-18T22:52:05 #kisslinux ? 2021-04-18T22:52:13 #kisslinux unsplash isn't fucked yet 2021-04-18T22:52:19 #kisslinux unsplash is CC0 pretty much 2021-04-18T22:52:24 #kisslinux but let's see what getty does to it in the next few years 2021-04-18T22:52:34 #kisslinux gonna stick with /wpg/ 2021-04-18T22:53:10 #kisslinux I can't find this wpg 2021-04-18T22:53:17 #kisslinux til of getty 2021-04-18T22:53:29 #kisslinux mostly I used tiled walls or a solid color from my theme 2021-04-18T22:53:50 #kisslinux solid color is the way 2021-04-18T22:54:02 #kisslinux xsetroot is love is life 2021-04-18T22:54:23 #kisslinux xsetBLOAT 2021-04-18T22:54:34 #kisslinux bruh how do you set your *image* wallpapers 2021-04-18T22:54:42 #kisslinux images are the way 2021-04-18T22:54:42 #kisslinux xwallpaper. 2021-04-18T22:54:42 #kisslinux is it through some crappy fvwmscript 2021-04-18T22:54:53 #kisslinux i mean, I could use fvwmscript 2021-04-18T22:55:02 #kisslinux fvwm-setroot is a thing 2021-04-18T22:55:05 #kisslinux but it's not a very good thing 2021-04-18T22:55:17 #kisslinux even thomas_adam admits that it's not... great. 2021-04-18T22:55:22 #kisslinux blot 2021-04-18T22:55:25 #kisslinux s/o/at 2021-04-18T22:55:29 #kisslinux blot 2021-04-18T22:55:31 #kisslinux lmao 2021-04-18T22:55:38 #kisslinux I connect to emacs every time I set my wallpaper 2021-04-18T22:55:43 #kisslinux letters are bloat now 2021-04-18T22:55:47 #kisslinux gave up the ghost on caring about the way™ 2021-04-18T22:56:14 #kisslinux # 2021-04-18T22:56:25 #kisslinux #000000 is the best color 2021-04-18T22:56:31 #kisslinux indeed 2021-04-18T22:56:33 #kisslinux because it is default 2021-04-18T22:56:35 #kisslinux a man of much wisdom here 2021-04-18T22:56:49 #kisslinux #000000 least bloat confirmed 2021-04-18T22:57:18 #kisslinux I'm so glad we can solve these pressing issues once and for all 2021-04-18T22:57:21 #kisslinux good work chaps 2021-04-18T22:57:45 #kisslinux glad I could help :) 2021-04-18T22:58:14 #kisslinux I didn't need to help 2021-04-18T22:58:15 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-18T22:58:19 #kisslinux I knew my stance was right to begin with 2021-04-18T22:58:36 #kisslinux I entered this discussion entirely unwaveringly 2021-04-18T22:58:43 #kisslinux there would have been no compromise 2021-04-18T22:58:43 #kisslinux the absolute thad of a lad 2021-04-18T22:59:17 #kisslinux also, 2021-04-18T22:59:19 #kisslinux kiedtl 2021-04-18T22:59:21 #kisslinux if 4chan is so awful 2021-04-18T22:59:26 #kisslinux https://i.4cdn.org/v/1618769953146.png 2021-04-18T22:59:32 #kisslinux why does it have such adorable goats 2021-04-18T23:21:37 #kisslinux the weeb has a point, kiedtl 2021-04-18T23:22:03 #kisslinux weeb is my sub-class 2021-04-18T23:22:04 #kisslinux smh 2021-04-18T23:42:39 #kisslinux what is your genus and species? 2021-04-18T23:44:48 #kisslinux Capra, C. aegagrus, thank you very much. 2021-04-18T23:50:15 #kisslinux testuser_[m]: ah thanks for packaging cmark and chroma! 2021-04-18T23:50:46 #kisslinux dilyn: in the future can we enforce better commit messages than this? 2021-04-18T23:50:47 #kisslinux https://git.k1sslinux.org/community/commit/25b6b42bf9883d80e5bc5dd7a605b30d98c24ade.html 2021-04-18T23:51:35 #kisslinux like what? 2021-04-18T23:52:36 #kisslinux according to the style guide shouldn't it be 2021-04-18T23:52:56 #kisslinux s6 suite: bumped to 2.10.0.3 2021-04-18T23:52:58 #kisslinux or similar 2021-04-18T23:53:17 #kisslinux ehr actually they don't all go to that version 2021-04-18T23:53:27 #kisslinux but still " 2021-04-18T23:53:29 #kisslinux Pull requests should contain only a single package" 2021-04-18T23:54:26 #kisslinux idk though, you're the BDFL :)