[2023-09-15T05:11:09Z] <sad_plan> hi
[2023-09-15T06:10:55Z] <Doomking> yo
[2023-09-15T06:11:47Z] <Doomking> gotta love dealing with figuring which kernel module will work... touchpad giving me a tough time atm
[2023-09-15T06:13:04Z] <Doomking> at least it's no longer the keyboard, which is the worse as the early stages needs a keyboard, so connecting an external keyboard is just inconvenient to me 
[2023-09-15T06:13:30Z] <Doomking> sad_plan: what browser do you use? firefox?
[2023-09-15T06:25:55Z] <sad_plan> yeah, its not always obvious which one you need. using make allyesconfig from something like arch can often give you the answer
[2023-09-15T06:26:00Z] <sad_plan> nah, I use luakit
[2023-09-15T06:26:09Z] <sad_plan> and sometimes surf, but not often really
[2023-09-15T06:26:51Z] <sad_plan> firefox dont build for me due to the setup I use. python doesnt like netbsd-curses without shared libs, which makes firefox not build
[2023-09-15T06:33:26Z] <Doomking> i thought firefox since that's like the standard for linux user
[2023-09-15T06:33:46Z] <Doomking> luakit is a good one
[2023-09-15T06:34:38Z] <Doomking> does luakit have extensions/addons? i don't remember when i looked into back when i tried out Carbs linux
[2023-09-15T06:34:59Z] <sad_plan> yeah, initially id like to use firefox, but it dont build, and I dont care enough to fix it :p
[2023-09-15T06:35:06Z] <sad_plan> yeah, luakit is cool
[2023-09-15T06:35:06Z] <Doomking> what about palemoon?
[2023-09-15T06:35:24Z] <sad_plan> yes, it does have some stuff. like noscript. its not like on firefox though
[2023-09-15T06:35:38Z] <sad_plan> never tried it, but it requires python2 for w/e reason. which dont build for me :p
[2023-09-15T06:36:05Z] <Doomking> oh dang
[2023-09-15T06:36:16Z] <Doomking> mesa for some reason doesn't build for me
[2023-09-15T06:36:38Z] <Doomking> keep getting this weird "intel_wa" build issue
[2023-09-15T06:36:56Z] <Doomking> never happened before, so not sure why now
[2023-09-15T06:37:26Z] <sad_plan> if you dont care about the drivers for you cpu, you can use my build. Ive only enabled swrast, so I bypass llvm, even on amd/radeon
[2023-09-15T06:37:32Z] <sad_plan> s/cpu/gpu
[2023-09-15T06:40:35Z] <Doomking> for which build?
[2023-09-15T06:40:41Z] <sad_plan> mesa
[2023-09-15T06:40:48Z] <sad_plan> in my repo
[2023-09-15T06:40:59Z] <Doomking> oh is that the one with the byaccat
[2023-09-15T06:41:10Z] <Doomking> as one of the dependency 
[2023-09-15T06:41:13Z] <sad_plan> I use byacc yes
[2023-09-15T06:41:21Z] <Doomking> oops, misspelled it 
[2023-09-15T06:41:32Z] <Doomking> what is byacc?
[2023-09-15T06:42:04Z] <Doomking> apparently with tinyx and sx, i don't need to build mesa :D
[2023-09-15T06:42:27Z] <sad_plan> byacc is an alternative to bison.
[2023-09-15T06:42:35Z] <Doomking> i actually dont even to build as much due to not building xorg-server's dependencies 
[2023-09-15T06:42:37Z] <sad_plan> thats correct. no need for mesa with tinyx. 
[2023-09-15T06:43:06Z] <sad_plan> but if you want any useable browser thats not text based, youd need mesa
[2023-09-15T06:43:15Z] <Doomking> ah shoot
[2023-09-15T06:43:20Z] <Doomking> i thought i was in the clear
[2023-09-15T06:43:34Z] <Doomking> i'll go use your build as building llvm is a pain to build
[2023-09-15T06:45:28Z] <sad_plan> unfortunatly not. you could use something like netsurf built for framebuffer, but youd still lack JS support more or less
[2023-09-15T12:28:37Z] <Guest87> hello, is there any difference between https://kisscommunity.bvnf.space/ and https://kisscommunity.org/?
[2023-09-15T12:28:48Z] <Guest87> or its really the same website
[2023-09-15T13:41:32Z] <Guest230> what is the difference between kiss update, kiss U and kiss u
[2023-09-15T14:00:30Z] <Guest230> am using gkiss
[2023-09-15T14:21:20Z] <Guest230> i got disconnected automatically i hope no one answered while i was not there
[2023-09-15T14:21:56Z] <Guest230> oh theres logs
[2023-09-15T15:25:13Z] <Doomking> The moment allyesconfig doesn’t fix my touchpad issue 💀💀
[2023-09-15T15:25:24Z] <Doomking> time to look for a firmware or patch
[2023-09-15T15:32:33Z] <Doomking> kiss u and kiss update are the same, it updates the repo, kiss U upgrades your packages
[2023-09-15T15:34:32Z] <Doomking> so kiss u or kiss update will get the new version of package if the maintainer updates their github or codeberg. But the installed packages won’t be upgraded. After kiss U is enter then the package will upgrade if there was any updates from the repo that you use
[2023-09-15T15:35:48Z] <Doomking> also, you can take a look at the kiss linux subreddit if there’s question that’s been asked before
[2023-09-15T15:36:28Z] <Doomking> the question you asked is on the kiss subreddit, and i believe dilyan gave a good answer to it