2019-11-05T03:17:13 #kisslinux <lrdy> Alright, I have installed KissLinux almost successfully, but I had a problem configuring the ALSA Audio.
2019-11-05T03:19:00 #kisslinux <lrdy> Since I have never configured ALSA myself I don't know what exactly to do. So if someone, please, could share some information about it, will be great.
2019-11-05T03:19:56 #kisslinux <lrdy> I will leave here some of the commands and their output so you may understand better what could be happening: https://pastebin.com/1BhCNczC
2019-11-05T03:20:44 #kisslinux <lrdy> I'll be reading the logs in case someone has some answers and thank you in advance. :)
2019-11-05T03:23:14 #kisslinux <lrdy> Some extra info: I compiled the kernel just as the docs tell, make defconfig and made some custom configs but those are for network devices not sound, everything else is the default from `make defconfig`.
2019-11-05T03:23:31 #kisslinux <lrdy> If you need to know something else so you can help me, just tell me.
2019-11-05T03:25:51 #kisslinux <lrdy> .. and that's for the moment. See you later! :D
2019-11-05T03:26:06 #kisslinux <lrdy> that's all*
2019-11-05T05:14:43 #kisslinux <neel> hello
2019-11-05T05:17:17 #kisslinux <neel> hello , I just discovered kisslinux today , and have a few questions about the building of packages
2019-11-05T05:17:49 #kisslinux <neel> Do the packages use the default use flags , like in gentoo ? Or can we define them somewhere ?
2019-11-05T07:22:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lrdy: It looks like you're missing some kernel config options for your audio device. Tried searching for the error you get at boot?
2019-11-05T07:23:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> neel: KISS doesn't have a USE flags feature. See: https://getkiss.org/pages/faq#are-use-flags-supported
2019-11-05T08:37:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://getkiss.org/wiki/home
2019-11-05T08:37:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> hehehe
2019-11-05T08:38:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Still some kinks to work out.
2019-11-05T08:39:55 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> That'll be nice. I personally think that was needed for new users :)
2019-11-05T08:40:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2019-11-05T08:40:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Came up with a really simple way of doing it. :P
2019-11-05T08:40:49 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> I see you made update to the looking of the site in general, the new navbar looks good with that little kiss logo
2019-11-05T08:41:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I always wanted to include the lips in the logo. This just uses the emoji ;)
2019-11-05T08:42:11 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> ;p
2019-11-05T08:43:20 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> Now that you're updating the site if I remember well there's still no section explaining how to change the keyboard layout in installation page, I mean it is, but is in the FAQ, someone still could miss that information
2019-11-05T08:43:45 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> So if you want, it could be to have that info in the installation page :D
2019-11-05T08:44:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will do.
2019-11-05T08:49:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> New link: https://getkiss.org/wiki/
2019-11-05T08:50:51 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> More handy
2019-11-05T08:54:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/wiki/blob/master/.github/workflows/wiki.yml
2019-11-05T08:54:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Wiki edits will now automatically update the website's wiki.
2019-11-05T08:56:11 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> Nice, now we can help each other more easily B)
2019-11-05T08:56:41 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> You know, I have installed Kiss recently and after compiling/installing xorg in order to use dwm
2019-11-05T08:57:02 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> I found that maybe you could add some new packages to the xorg repo
2019-11-05T08:57:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Which ones?
2019-11-05T08:59:13 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> Dwm has a default bar that can be set using xsetroot, so it will be nice to have it in the repo and it is not much of a deal to have it there, I think it only depends on xbitmap and I don't know if this last one is mandatory to compile xsetroot
2019-11-05T09:02:06 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> ... and when there was the very first layout of the website there was a section that said KissLinux was only planned to be used as an English focused lang distro. Now we have some info to change the keyboard layout in the FAQs, that's nice, and maybe now we can setxkbmap so users can change keyboard layout when using xorg
2019-11-05T09:03:12 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> It is possible to change it without xsetxkbmap, modifying the xorg config files, but you know, if there's already an xinput pkg to make things more simple, having xsetxkbmap could be an option too :)
2019-11-05T09:04:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The homepage still mentions the English part.
2019-11-05T09:05:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can you open these as issues in kisslinux/repo so I don't forget?
2019-11-05T09:05:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It lives: https://github.com/kisslinux/wiki/commit/7b772737a7427452d78fecd5c390773a8824d960/checks?check_suite_id=296134746
2019-11-05T09:10:02 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> Alright. I'll open the issues later :D
2019-11-05T09:10:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks :)
2019-11-05T09:10:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm about to go out for a few hours, else I'd do it now.
2019-11-05T09:14:22 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> Alright, no problem. I'm going to have dinner so I'll see you later, have a nice day/
2019-11-05T09:14:23 #kisslinux <kissalreadyused> ^^
2019-11-05T09:14:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You too.
2019-11-05T09:16:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> kissalreadyused: A good first Wiki page could be setting the keyboard layout. :)
2019-11-05T09:16:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The install guide could link to the Wiki towards the end.
2019-11-05T11:41:06 #kisslinux <claudia1> dylanaraps: i made mpv working with youtube-dl last night
2019-11-05T11:41:15 #kisslinux <claudia1> many thanks
2019-11-05T11:44:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice :)
2019-11-05T12:35:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The wiki foundations are done. https://getkiss.org/wiki/
2019-11-05T12:36:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I can't wait to see users contribute documentation, tips etc. :)
2019-11-05T12:47:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://getkiss.org/news/20191105a
2019-11-05T14:17:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Wiki pages now display a direct link to the edit page: https://getkiss.org/wiki/setting-the-keyboard-layout
2019-11-05T19:12:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hello
2019-11-05T19:22:11 #kisslinux <tridactyla> hi
2019-11-05T19:22:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. :)
2019-11-05T19:25:42 #kisslinux <tridactyla> no questions, just noticed lots of new stars for samurai, perhaps thanks to you :)
2019-11-05T19:26:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Most likely. I notice a lot of people I know. :P
2019-11-05T19:26:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Loving samurai btw.
2019-11-05T19:27:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks for creating it.
2019-11-05T19:28:58 #kisslinux <tridactyla> thanks, i'm quite happy with how it turned out
2019-11-05T19:32:03 #kisslinux <tridactyla> actually, i do have one question. how does rootless X work (specifically, access to input and graphics devices)?
2019-11-05T19:33:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The input and video groups. Not 100% ideal of course but a lot better than running Xorg as root.
2019-11-05T19:33:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The input group is required for libinput regardless.
2019-11-05T19:35:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nothing stops a user from running Xorg "normally" (as root with X as suid). The user can also instal elogind, etc if they'd like to use it.
2019-11-05T19:35:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is just the default.
2019-11-05T19:39:06 #kisslinux <tridactyla> ah, got it. this is unsafe for multi-user systems though, right? any user in the input group could read key events for another user's X session
2019-11-05T19:39:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes.
2019-11-05T19:40:09 #kisslinux <tridactyla> probably fine for a single-user system, though
2019-11-05T19:40:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2019-11-05T19:42:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The Gentoo Wiki has more info: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Non_root_Xorg
2019-11-05T20:25:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ciao for now