2021-04-04T00:01:48 #kisslinux okay 2021-04-04T00:45:54 #kisslinux i haven't worked on nkiss in like 3 weeks. if you want some C practice, i can push my broken package installation code, and you can try to finish it 2021-04-04T00:47:08 #kisslinux i don't think it would be too hard, and i think it would be practice 2021-04-04T00:47:33 #kisslinux s/practice/good practice/ 2021-04-04T00:47:35 #kisslinux i don't think it would be too hard, and i think it would be good practice 2021-04-04T00:49:31 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-04T00:49:45 #kisslinux is nkiss yet another kiss written in anohter language? 2021-04-04T00:50:40 #kisslinux indeed 2021-04-04T00:52:48 #kisslinux not finished, but closer than when i put a link in this chat in february 2021-04-04T01:08:19 #kisslinux link? 2021-04-04T01:11:09 #kisslinux https://git.nihaljere.xyz/nkiss/log.html 2021-04-04T01:56:27 #kisslinux acheam: 'You gotta add yourself to /etc/doas.conf first, dumbass' 2021-04-04T01:56:53 #kisslinux For invalid passcodes: 'You are being naughty this year.' 2021-04-04T01:57:35 #kisslinux added 2021-04-04T01:58:01 #kisslinux too lazy to implement different lists for different authentication failures, so the first one will go unused unfortunately 2021-04-04T01:58:05 #kisslinux despite it being good advice 2021-04-04T01:58:36 #kisslinux * kiedtl cries 2021-04-04T01:58:42 #kisslinux My humor will be unappreciated 2021-04-04T01:58:47 #kisslinux Sad. 2021-04-04T02:00:11 #kisslinux very 2021-04-04T02:01:44 #kisslinux It's not usually appreciated anyways 2021-04-04T02:01:46 #kisslinux s/rh 2021-04-04T02:01:48 #kisslinux ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 2021-04-04T02:02:40 #kisslinux still u can use something from the first example ... 2021-04-04T02:03:01 #kisslinux u can always add 'dumbass' at the end of second example :/ 2021-04-04T02:03:10 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-04T02:03:21 #kisslinux 'Santa is not amused' 2021-04-04T02:03:33 #kisslinux 'A new shipment of coal is on it's way' 2021-04-04T02:03:37 #kisslinux I dunno 2021-04-04T02:03:46 #kisslinux someone's in a festive mood 2021-04-04T02:03:46 #kisslinux I'm taking too much inspiration from the xkcd 2021-04-04T02:03:57 #kisslinux !xkcd sudo 2021-04-04T02:04:00 #kisslinux oh 2021-04-04T02:04:12 #kisslinux this isn't the tildeverse dummy 2021-04-04T02:05:06 #kisslinux Nah their IRC doesn't have a !xkcd 2021-04-04T02:05:17 #kisslinux http://www.google.com/url?q=https://xkcd.com/838/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjo7vf8v-PvAhWBEFkFHeF1DsIQFjAAegQICxAB&usg=AOvVaw3jsZEENxHLa8ZuluSjRQtH 2021-04-04T02:05:19 #kisslinux fuck 2021-04-04T02:05:22 #kisslinux wow lookee here, big fancy guy on *three* netowkrd 2021-04-04T02:05:24 #kisslinux networks 2021-04-04T02:05:25 #kisslinux https://xkcd/838 2021-04-04T02:05:38 #kisslinux bruh 2021-04-04T02:05:40 #kisslinux .com 2021-04-04T02:05:48 #kisslinux lmao whoops 2021-04-04T02:05:53 #kisslinux I really need to sleep 2021-04-04T02:05:55 #kisslinux bye 2021-04-04T02:05:57 #kisslinux oh this one 2021-04-04T02:06:00 #kisslinux theres also the sandwhich one 2021-04-04T02:06:05 #kisslinux the sudo guys really like that one 2021-04-04T02:06:06 #kisslinux hm? 2021-04-04T02:06:18 #kisslinux 149 2021-04-04T02:06:27 #kisslinux its why the sudo logo is a sandwhich 2021-04-04T02:06:35 #kisslinux its the creator's GH profile pic too 2021-04-04T02:07:37 #kisslinux huh 2021-04-04T02:07:42 #kisslinux Never knew that sudo had a logo 2021-04-04T02:10:42 #kisslinux lol acheam you only have to patch the site/package-manager.txt 2021-04-04T02:10:46 #kisslinux but also yes I should update that 2021-04-04T02:11:23 #kisslinux any privilege escalation utility similar to sudo/doas/ssu usage should work automagically with kiss (someone wanted please, merakor submitted a patch to simply the usage) 2021-04-04T02:11:37 #kisslinux so now I just need to update it to say... that. lol 2021-04-04T02:11:55 #kisslinux oh okay lol 2021-04-04T02:12:13 #kisslinux last time I tried contributing you closed my PR and told me my workflow was wrong 2021-04-04T02:12:14 #kisslinux so.... 2021-04-04T02:12:24 #kisslinux hm 2021-04-04T02:12:47 #kisslinux AH yes 2021-04-04T02:12:54 #kisslinux so you just edit the page in site/* 2021-04-04T02:12:58 #kisslinux and then do ./make 2021-04-04T02:13:10 #kisslinux it gets copied to docs/ and the html is generated, so you only edit the one file 2021-04-04T02:13:15 #kisslinux right but that's two commits then right 2021-04-04T02:13:21 #kisslinux s/right// 2021-04-04T02:13:22 #kisslinux but that's two commits then right 2021-04-04T02:13:37 #kisslinux *throws up hands* 2021-04-04T02:13:45 #kisslinux I don't want to think about how it would look 2021-04-04T02:13:48 #kisslinux it's probably fine 2021-04-04T02:13:57 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-04T02:14:09 #kisslinux for PRs you're probably right, for patches it should just be the one file? 2021-04-04T02:14:21 #kisslinux idk I don't care. Probably too harsh the first time sorry :P 2021-04-04T02:14:31 #kisslinux that makes sense 2021-04-04T02:14:32 #kisslinux lol its fine 2021-04-04T02:14:55 #kisslinux but still: consider changing it 2021-04-04T02:15:02 #kisslinux it makes 0 sense to have the generated pages version controlled 2021-04-04T02:15:09 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-04T02:15:24 #kisslinux you could have a GH action ./make it, and then push it to the gh-pages branch 2021-04-04T02:15:34 #kisslinux or have it drop it to a web host like srht.site 2021-04-04T02:16:33 #kisslinux there are many things that could be changed 2021-04-04T02:16:49 #kisslinux but very few as important as this 2021-04-04T02:16:56 #kisslinux it #matters 2021-04-04T02:17:40 #kisslinux honestly the GH action could probably push to the master branch 2021-04-04T02:17:47 #kisslinux just anything to make it a touch more automated 2021-04-04T02:43:00 #kisslinux https://text.causal.agency/016-using-openbsd.txt that fellow linked earlier is using obsd on the same mac I have! 2021-04-04T02:57:57 #kisslinux https://text.causal.agency/017-unpasswords.txt this dude is incredible 2021-04-04T03:02:41 #kisslinux on one hand i want to believe that's satire, but i know it's not because it makes sense 2021-04-04T03:03:13 #kisslinux that passwords across sites are only as good as the password behind the email linked to them is the most astute tautology i've ever seen 2021-04-04T03:05:09 #kisslinux it does check out 2021-04-04T03:08:29 #kisslinux dilyn: they have good software too 2021-04-04T03:08:42 #kisslinux and some cool public access unix games 2021-04-04T03:08:44 #kisslinux yeah i finally found the illusive `bri` 2021-04-04T03:08:52 #kisslinux didn't realize this person wrote `catgirl` 2021-04-04T03:18:27 #kisslinux ive always wanted a vibrator for my terminal 2021-04-04T03:18:40 #kisslinux uh 2021-04-04T03:18:49 #kisslinux https://causal.agency/bin/nudge.html 2021-04-04T03:19:02 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-04T03:23:14 #kisslinux wow, never new that /sys/class/backlight can be used to set brightness directly 2021-04-04T03:23:24 #kisslinux pretty neat 2021-04-04T03:23:37 #kisslinux neat indeed 2021-04-04T03:23:43 #kisslinux i mean it makes sense 2021-04-04T03:23:47 #kisslinux very neat 2021-04-04T03:24:13 #kisslinux well thats what i would have expected it to do if i knew it existed, but i didnt! 2021-04-04T03:25:51 #kisslinux hmm the terminal vibrator isn't working for me 2021-04-04T03:26:12 #kisslinux yeah you can just echo things to it 2021-04-04T03:26:12 #kisslinux shame 2021-04-04T03:26:14 #kisslinux it's fancy 2021-04-04T03:26:24 #kisslinux everything is a file! 2021-04-04T03:26:32 #kisslinux the best thing ever tbh 2021-04-04T03:26:37 #kisslinux `touch` all the things 2021-04-04T03:26:43 #kisslinux I need to learn the /sys filesystem better 2021-04-04T03:26:49 #kisslinux woah woah hey settle down dilyn 2021-04-04T03:27:01 #kisslinux there's a ton of things in /sys that're super useful 2021-04-04T03:27:11 #kisslinux basically everything you use userspace tools for to modify your system live in there 2021-04-04T03:27:17 #kisslinux so it's aptly named lmao 2021-04-04T03:27:28 #kisslinux interesting 2021-04-04T03:27:31 #kisslinux i think this is why im super curious about plan9/9front 2021-04-04T03:35:37 #kisslinux necromansy: does plan9 do a similar thing? 2021-04-04T03:36:14 #kisslinux another useful example is changing the scheduler used for IO, because you can't actually do it via kernel commandline 2021-04-04T03:36:21 #kisslinux yeah, plan9 is "everything is a file" to the extreme 2021-04-04T03:36:28 #kisslinux can be set per block device. v cool 2021-04-04T03:36:55 #kisslinux necromansy: do you have any practical examples of that? 2021-04-04T03:37:11 #kisslinux dilyn: also thanks for reminding me that catgirl exists, playing around with it now 2021-04-04T03:37:18 #kisslinux :D 2021-04-04T03:37:23 #kisslinux I'd use it except gpl 2021-04-04T03:37:26 #kisslinux womp 2021-04-04T03:37:44 #kisslinux dilyn: can you give me an example of why you would change the io scheduler? ive never even thought about it 2021-04-04T03:37:58 #kisslinux kyber is a really powerful scheduler over the default 2021-04-04T03:38:14 #kisslinux https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-56-nvme&num=1 phoronix does regular benchmarks 2021-04-04T03:38:21 #kisslinux yeah, the plumbing system is a pre big example of that 2021-04-04T03:38:28 #kisslinux they're not *that* different in general, but it varies by use-case 2021-04-04T03:38:44 #kisslinux interesting 2021-04-04T03:38:57 #kisslinux yeah. a simple reason is throughput 2021-04-04T03:40:19 #kisslinux good to know its possible if i ever need to 2021-04-04T03:40:58 #kisslinux also pre much everything in the OS is a file via the filesystem protocol including windows and processes 2021-04-04T03:41:00 #kisslinux it's definitely dependent on your use case. 'none' is usually just a better default tho 2021-04-04T03:45:18 #kisslinux i've added mention to the install guide to reference @/package-manager because the last section mentions gnugrep 2021-04-04T03:45:24 #kisslinux I hope it appeases the gnugrep fans 2021-04-04T03:46:24 #kisslinux new song, word 2021-04-04T03:47:25 #kisslinux adding git config --global commit.verbose true was the best tip casual.agency could have ever given me 2021-04-04T03:47:35 #kisslinux no longer must i get diff every file before writing a commit message 2021-04-04T03:47:39 #kisslinux my fingers are saved 2021-04-04T03:47:57 #kisslinux * acheam sets that as well 2021-04-04T03:48:09 #kisslinux lol 2021-04-04T03:48:27 #kisslinux * acheam tries not to brag about emacs and magit 2021-04-04T03:48:34 #kisslinux :P 2021-04-04T03:49:00 #kisslinux i wanna look at emacs 2021-04-04T03:49:05 #kisslinux its good stuff 2021-04-04T03:49:08 #kisslinux look but don't touch 2021-04-04T03:49:11 #kisslinux but also i cant move off ed(1) coz its just so comfy 2021-04-04T03:49:22 #kisslinux bruh 2021-04-04T03:49:58 #kisslinux when you have to specify the man page section when referring to your editor 2021-04-04T03:50:14 #kisslinux gotta be specific 2021-04-04T03:50:17 #kisslinux you have to refer to it BY LAW 2021-04-04T03:50:18 #kisslinux avoid those ambiguities 2021-04-04T03:50:18 #kisslinux or else 2021-04-04T03:50:23 #kisslinux after all, it is *the* text editor 2021-04-04T03:50:41 #kisslinux "ed - edit text" 2021-04-04T03:51:09 #kisslinux me when I accidentally hit Q instead of q in vim 2021-04-04T03:51:18 #kisslinux :'( 2021-04-04T03:51:23 #kisslinux rip 2021-04-04T03:51:35 #kisslinux genuinely the first thing I put in a vimrc 2021-04-04T03:51:41 #kisslinux its the most annoying keybinding ever 2021-04-04T03:51:45 #kisslinux qq 2021-04-04T03:52:01 #kisslinux oh thats my other pet peave 2021-04-04T03:52:04 #kisslinux is Q still hard quit in vim? 2021-04-04T03:52:09 #kisslinux when people name their macros q 2021-04-04T03:52:41 #kisslinux necromansy: Q is Ex mode 2021-04-04T03:52:45 #kisslinux ah 2021-04-04T03:54:27 #kisslinux ooh dilyn has an official k1sslinux.org email new 2021-04-04T03:54:34 #kisslinux s/new/now 2021-04-04T03:54:35 #kisslinux ooh dilyn has an official k1sslinux.org email now 2021-04-04T03:54:41 #kisslinux ooo moving up inn the world eh 2021-04-04T03:54:50 #kisslinux it's basically just an alias 2021-04-04T03:54:57 #kisslinux why'd you choose such a long one? 2021-04-04T03:54:59 #kisslinux though tutanota does support letting me set a custom domain, and i could 2021-04-04T03:55:14 #kisslinux also, kiss-community should be (C) 2020-2021 not just 2020 2021-04-04T03:55:15 #kisslinux because dilyn.corner is my name @ tutanota lmao 2021-04-04T03:55:17 #kisslinux but thats pedantic 2021-04-04T03:55:17 #kisslinux it's #professional 2021-04-04T03:55:30 #kisslinux kiss' (c) should also change 2021-04-04T03:57:28 #kisslinux are (C) lines even... meaningful? 2021-04-04T03:57:40 #kisslinux like, unless the copyright file is ever rescinded, the years listed shouldn't matter right 2021-04-04T03:58:01 #kisslinux you can just do 2020- to indicate onwards and current right? 2021-04-04T03:58:06 #kisslinux mmhmm 2021-04-04T03:58:16 #kisslinux that should remove the need to continually update 2021-04-04T03:58:58 #kisslinux I usually just do "Copyright $(date +%Y) $(whoami), license" 2021-04-04T03:59:15 #kisslinux I don't think the (C) actually counts as a copyright 2021-04-04T03:59:19 #kisslinux yah 2021-04-04T03:59:29 #kisslinux but I've also seen people do "year started, current year, name" 2021-04-04T03:59:30 #kisslinux it's like, just some symbolic gibberish or something 2021-04-04T03:59:37 #kisslinux I avoid reading copyright law nowadays lmfao 2021-04-04T03:59:39 #kisslinux rms explicitly lists out every year 2021-04-04T03:59:55 #kisslinux which is intresting 2021-04-04T04:00:00 #kisslinux copyright such bs 2021-04-04T04:00:01 #kisslinux hes the only person I've seen do that 2021-04-04T04:00:25 #kisslinux afaik all that matters is that once a copyright license guideline is created, it is in effect until it is legally NOT in effect, which happens only after a set time or when the license itself allows for modifications 2021-04-04T04:01:54 #kisslinux maybe since perl is only required for firefox we treat it like yasm... 2021-04-04T04:01:57 #kisslinux and then drop it to community 2021-04-04T04:02:28 #kisslinux or maybe remove whole footer would be pretty good :/ 2021-04-04T04:02:47 #kisslinux Dylan had to include the Linux(R) line legally iirc 2021-04-04T04:02:52 #kisslinux he had to get permission to use the name or some bs 2021-04-04T04:03:33 #kisslinux in that case I would call it 'kernel' :/ 2021-04-04T04:03:51 #kisslinux KISS Kernel, ah yeah, that does have a great ring to it 2021-04-04T04:03:51 #kisslinux can someone make a linux distro and need to make it known its a linux kernel distro? 2021-04-04T04:04:00 #kisslinux KISS doesn't even ship a kernel, how is it linoox 2021-04-04T04:04:09 #kisslinux according to Distrowatch it isn't 2021-04-04T04:04:14 #kisslinux lmao 2021-04-04T04:04:16 #kisslinux true 2021-04-04T04:04:19 #kisslinux its just classified as "KISS" 2021-04-04T04:04:32 #kisslinux KISS is like Prince 2021-04-04T04:04:34 #kisslinux or Madonna 2021-04-04T04:04:36 #kisslinux the implication that it builds ontop of a linux kernel 2021-04-04T04:04:40 #kisslinux or Herpes 2021-04-04T04:04:42 #kisslinux wait what 2021-04-04T04:04:45 #kisslinux it says "discontinued" 2021-04-04T04:04:50 #kisslinux WHAT 2021-04-04T04:04:56 #kisslinux we should get that fixed up 2021-04-04T04:04:56 #kisslinux my arse 2021-04-04T04:05:00 #kisslinux yeah 2021-04-04T04:05:00 #kisslinux https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kiss 2021-04-04T04:05:01 #kisslinux I'll fight distrowatch 2021-04-04T04:05:04 #kisslinux what a garbage site lmao 2021-04-04T04:05:08 #kisslinux punch onnn 2021-04-04T04:05:14 #kisslinux and maybe also ask to be put in the Linux catergory? 2021-04-04T04:05:19 #kisslinux for discoverability 2021-04-04T04:05:26 #kisslinux and correct links :/ 2021-04-04T04:05:28 #kisslinux because there is currently no way to find KISS via the search tools 2021-04-04T04:06:01 #kisslinux sigh 2021-04-04T04:06:10 #kisslinux find again k1ss linux was not so easy as every fucking link point to inactive domain 2021-04-04T04:06:12 #kisslinux yeah I updated the repology links a few weeks ago :v 2021-04-04T04:06:37 #kisslinux I tought it's dead :/ 2021-04-04T04:06:37 #kisslinux dilyn: it looks like you have to send Jesse Smith an email at distro⊙dc 2021-04-04T04:07:16 #kisslinux yeah the switch over to new domains wasn't smooth coz we couldn't snatch up the OG site 2021-04-04T04:07:18 #kisslinux :| 2021-04-04T04:07:21 #kisslinux wait so KISS is undead :o 2021-04-04T04:07:26 #kisslinux yeah it'll probably be the last thing i do before going to bed 2021-04-04T04:07:35 #kisslinux zombie OS 2021-04-04T04:07:36 #kisslinux its really annoying, you can't buy the domain, but is being used for forwarding and stuff 2021-04-04T04:07:43 #kisslinux acheam: new SOTD - zombie - the cranberries 2021-04-04T04:08:09 #kisslinux necromansy: thanks will keep in mind 2021-04-04T04:08:56 #kisslinux btw. in distrowatch is dead too, as it's 'discontinued' 2021-04-04T04:09:27 #kisslinux yes, some registrars keeps all domains for shits 2021-04-04T04:10:04 #kisslinux helby: yeah (scroll up) 2021-04-04T04:10:25 #kisslinux email sent 2021-04-04T04:10:28 #kisslinux will see what happens 2021-04-04T04:10:35 #kisslinux that was quick 2021-04-04T04:10:39 #kisslinux I had no idea nothing in repo/ required perl. this is incredible. 2021-04-04T04:10:43 #kisslinux i'm about to go to bed :P 2021-04-04T04:10:52 #kisslinux did you include links to the new GH org, and the new website? 2021-04-04T04:10:55 #kisslinux it's these small things that don't require real decisions I can just bang out haha 2021-04-04T04:10:58 #kisslinux I did indeed 2021-04-04T04:11:01 #kisslinux nice 2021-04-04T04:11:05 #kisslinux I should go to bed too 2021-04-04T04:11:07 #kisslinux (same time zone) 2021-04-04T04:11:08 #kisslinux yah. got him with the quick-hitter 2021-04-04T04:11:12 #kisslinux EST ftw 2021-04-04T04:11:15 #kisslinux that's how we do it 2021-04-04T04:11:23 #kisslinux isn't it EDT technically now? 2021-04-04T04:11:23 #kisslinux AEST better 2021-04-04T04:11:39 #kisslinux you say tomato, I say abolish daylight savings 2021-04-04T04:11:44 #kisslinux mood 2021-04-04T04:11:49 #kisslinux imagine needing to write 4 characters for your time zone 2021-04-04T04:11:50 #kisslinux we just ended ours here thank fuck 2021-04-04T04:11:56 #kisslinux imagine it being morning right now 2021-04-04T04:11:58 #kisslinux messin' with my LOCALE 2021-04-04T04:12:19 #kisslinux don't nobody touch my LOCALE 2021-04-04T04:12:20 #kisslinux speaking of time 2021-04-04T04:12:29 #kisslinux in Arch it was always a hassle to update $DATE 2021-04-04T04:12:39 #kisslinux but with KISS i just... `ntpd`, and boom? done? 2021-04-04T04:12:41 #kisslinux ezpz wtf 2021-04-04T04:12:44 #kisslinux muh control 2021-04-04T04:12:54 #kisslinux you use ntp? 2021-04-04T04:12:56 #kisslinux why? 2021-04-04T04:13:02 #kisslinux to eliminate thinking 2021-04-04T04:13:13 #kisslinux my local time is still set to GMT and i cbf changing it 2021-04-04T04:13:17 #kisslinux I didn't bother setting up tzdata on this laptop lol 2021-04-04T04:13:47 #kisslinux i've gotten pretty good at thinking both in GMT and EST 2021-04-04T04:14:04 #kisslinux because I have privacy.resistFingerprinting on so all my websites think i'm in GMT 2021-04-04T04:14:09 #kisslinux yeah when you know your TZ its easy 2021-04-04T04:14:32 #kisslinux except for fking daylight savings 2021-04-04T04:14:35 #kisslinux studying astrophysics for a year made me hyper aware of GMT and a bunch of other dumb requirements to measure stars 2021-04-04T04:14:43 #kisslinux UT based 2021-04-04T04:15:01 #kisslinux yeah satellite data is all UT 2021-04-04T04:15:06 #kisslinux dilyn: did you include that the architecture info is wrong in your email? 2021-04-04T04:16:05 #kisslinux and a link to our screenshot page? 2021-04-04T04:16:20 #kisslinux and links for the "user forums" and "alternative user forums" 2021-04-04T04:16:44 #kisslinux that was a badly phrased question 2021-04-04T04:16:54 #kisslinux just pointing out that those fields exist, and are potentionally incorrect on DW 2021-04-04T04:17:51 #kisslinux how is the architecture wrong. what is this site even . 2021-04-04T04:18:00 #kisslinux is the content auto generated by monkeys and typewriters 2021-04-04T04:18:07 #kisslinux might be 2021-04-04T04:18:55 #kisslinux when they get back to me I'll follow up on those points. Thanks for mentioning them 2021-04-04T04:19:13 #kisslinux also, the logo 2021-04-04T04:19:25 #kisslinux muh crooked lips 2021-04-04T04:19:39 #kisslinux bring back the naked lady 2021-04-04T04:19:42 #kisslinux I'm starting a petition 2021-04-04T04:19:45 #kisslinux find the #logo 2021-04-04T04:19:57 #kisslinux the funny thing is 2021-04-04T04:20:01 #kisslinux the page was last updated in Nov 2021-04-04T04:20:12 #kisslinux probably to mark it as dead! 2021-04-04T04:20:14 #kisslinux when Dylan was still here, and the distro was totally normal 2021-04-04T04:20:24 #kisslinux which is silly considering it had only been a DAY 2021-04-04T04:20:27 #kisslinux maybe dylan killed it 2021-04-04T04:20:36 #kisslinux he emailed Jesse and was like 'bruh i'm outtie' 2021-04-04T04:20:55 #kisslinux speaking of which 2021-04-04T04:20:59 #kisslinux so much about the situation is strange 2021-04-04T04:21:00 #kisslinux lmao 2021-04-04T04:21:01 #kisslinux its sleep time 2021-04-04T04:21:06 #kisslinux ciao 2021-04-04T04:21:14 #kisslinux yeah, i'm out as well 2021-04-04T04:21:17 #kisslinux farewell folks 2021-04-04T04:21:19 #kisslinux o/ 2021-04-04T04:21:23 #kisslinux o 2021-04-04T06:17:11 #kisslinux Hi 2021-04-04T13:02:07 #kisslinux can anyone on GCC reproduce https://termbin.com/0wij for xfsprogs? thanks 2021-04-04T13:15:14 #kisslinux https://freenode.logbot.info/kisslinux/20210326#c7396048 2021-04-04T13:15:24 #kisslinux konimex: 2021-04-04T13:20:07 #kisslinux hi testuser_[m] 2021-04-04T13:21:23 #kisslinux hi 2021-04-04T13:22:59 #kisslinux did you get kiss up and running arhceam 2021-04-04T13:23:02 #kisslinux acheam 2021-04-04T13:23:06 #kisslinux not yet 2021-04-04T13:23:42 #kisslinux I think the raid controller needs some firmware and kernel stuff that I haven't figured out yet 2021-04-04T13:23:53 #kisslinux wait, so how did KISS ever add 5.11.0 if it didn't build on musl without patches? (since I use vanilla KISS here) 2021-04-04T13:24:06 #kisslinux acheam: are you installing kiss on a server? 2021-04-04T13:24:17 #kisslinux trying to, travankor 2021-04-04T13:24:48 #kisslinux "trying to" is the key word 2021-04-04T13:24:57 #kisslinux colocating at a datacenter? or hosting at your house? 2021-04-04T13:25:14 #kisslinux hosting at my house 2021-04-04T13:27:21 #kisslinux That's quite nice. I hope to eventually self-host things as well, depending on time and finances I guess. 2021-04-04T13:28:13 #kisslinux nice 2021-04-04T13:28:40 #kisslinux im actually hosting everything on my vps right now, this machine is a bit unused at the moment 2021-04-04T13:29:30 #kisslinux it will probably just be a build server so I don't have to bog down my laptop with long builds 2021-04-04T13:29:49 #kisslinux (can't wait until I can switch to kiss full time on my laptop) 2021-04-04T13:30:36 #kisslinux is this going to complement repo-bin? 2021-04-04T13:30:58 #kisslinux I'll probably make the binaries public, but it won't be official 2021-04-04T13:31:29 #kisslinux I'll just setup a webserver hosting files from .cache/kiss/bin or smthng 2021-04-04T13:32:16 #kisslinux or I could drop them into my cloud hosting 2021-04-04T13:32:24 #kisslinux but I won't be making packages for then 2021-04-04T14:18:56 #kisslinux dilyn: idk if this is desirable, or if it applies to other build files too, but in xfsprogs, for bundling libinih, can't you just use "$PWD/inih" instead of "." for the meson call, and switch all the paths to being absolute/relative to the top-level build dir, and then you can drop the cd+subshell? 2021-04-04T14:19:24 #kisslinux And like for the output dir you'd just change "output" to "inih/output" 2021-04-04T15:40:10 #kisslinux I'm currently reinstalling KISS 2021-04-04T15:40:34 #kisslinux while trying to build software as a normal user in a chroot, su wont accept my root password 2021-04-04T15:40:40 #kisslinux wtf 2021-04-04T15:41:07 #kisslinux I set the root password multiple times to make sure. I also deleted the password via `passwd -d` 2021-04-04T16:06:49 #kisslinux Perhaps your user must be added to the wheel group? 2021-04-04T16:07:20 #kisslinux I think su works for everyone 2021-04-04T16:07:28 #kisslinux Wheel only for doas/sudo 2021-04-04T16:15:54 #kisslinux yeah, wheel is a sudo thing 2021-04-04T16:16:16 #kisslinux no big deal, I build sudo now and it works 2021-04-04T16:16:19 #kisslinux still weird though 2021-04-04T16:19:10 #kisslinux I need to test this when not in the chroot anymore 2021-04-04T16:22:37 #kisslinux wheel group makes no difference, just confirmed 2021-04-04T16:30:34 #kisslinux yeah that is odd 2021-04-04T16:34:49 #kisslinux maybe it's because I su'd to my normal user? 2021-04-04T16:35:42 #kisslinux No 2021-04-04T16:35:53 #kisslinux "Nesting" su works fine 2021-04-04T16:36:12 #kisslinux yeah, I would've been very surprised if that was the issue 2021-04-04T16:37:24 #kisslinux I know when changing groups, you have to re-login 2021-04-04T16:37:37 #kisslinux shouldn't be the case for passwords afaik 2021-04-04T16:37:45 #kisslinux and I did a `exec sh -l` too 2021-04-04T16:38:03 #kisslinux never started a fresh chroot though 2021-04-04T19:20:12 #kisslinux testuser_: did you try chmod u+s on busybox-suid? 2021-04-04T19:20:43 #kisslinux e5ten: yes that is a thing that can be done for xfsprogs. Much cleaner. I thought xfsprogs 5.11 was building before I pushed it, guess I was building the older version... 2021-04-04T19:20:47 #kisslinux will fix it up 2021-04-04T19:21:04 #kisslinux sorry aarng: not testuser_: 2021-04-04T19:26:08 #kisslinux dilyn, busybox-suid is already 4755 2021-04-04T19:26:21 #kisslinux weiiiiirrddd 2021-04-04T19:26:35 #kisslinux somebody had an issue earlier where it lost setuid so i figured i'd ask 2021-04-04T19:27:09 #kisslinux always better to confirm things like this 2021-04-04T19:28:10 #kisslinux done with my re-install, took me longer than I'd like to admit 2021-04-04T19:28:30 #kisslinux no swap partition and a fully self-contained kernel 2021-04-04T19:28:49 #kisslinux using the internal kernel commandline so I don't even have to mess around with efibootmgr 2021-04-04T19:29:25 #kisslinux oh and `mv /boot/vmlinuz /boot/EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi` ofc 2021-04-04T19:30:58 #kisslinux nice nice nice 2021-04-04T19:31:34 #kisslinux acheam: you are using a raid controller? That should also be enabled in the kernel... there's a device drivers section relating to raid/multiple drives 2021-04-04T19:35:32 #kisslinux so jesse got back to me and said that because dylan didn't bless the change in leadership and because we have a new upstream location, we can't be considered KISS-proper, and since we don't bundle a kernel with our repositories we aren't a linux distro-proper 2021-04-04T19:58:24 #kisslinux On the former, I guess that means kisslinux is about as fake as void linux is 2021-04-04T21:25:33 #kisslinux jesse is of distrowatch? 2021-04-04T21:25:53 #kisslinux also, does gentoo bundle the kernel with their repos? 2021-04-04T21:26:05 #kisslinux or must users retrieve sources by themself? 2021-04-04T21:28:07 #kisslinux gentoo provides gentoo-sources, a package with the linux src. Also, there's a prebuilt kernel option nowadays too I think 2021-04-04T21:30:43 #kisslinux <_< >_> 2021-04-04T21:31:10 #kisslinux I mean, we could just add a package that does `make allyesconfig` for the kernel 2021-04-04T21:31:19 #kisslinux or steal alpine's kernel config 2021-04-04T21:31:31 #kisslinux But I'm sure being on distrowatch isn't such a pressing issue 2021-04-04T21:39:56 #kisslinux Hi 2021-04-04T21:40:03 #kisslinux dilyn: Can you check if this bug applies to kiss as well? https://fossil.carbslinux.org/cpt/tktview?name=da360ec3ef 2021-04-04T21:40:24 #kisslinux I'm just annoyed that it's marked as discontinued even though it's not 2021-04-04T21:53:13 #kisslinux i could care less about distrowatch but accuracy would be nice smh 2021-04-04T21:55:34 #kisslinux merakor: what do you mean by 'immediately'? during the version check? 2021-04-04T21:56:13 #kisslinux I pressed ctrl+c while (I think?) it was checking versions but it didn't seem to cause anything to fail, it just didn't exit... 2021-04-04T21:56:42 #kisslinux Yeah that's what I meant 2021-04-04T21:56:58 #kisslinux coudl be i'm just not being fast enough 2021-04-04T21:57:00 #kisslinux It also does not accept ctrl+c after that 2021-04-04T21:57:01 #kisslinux i'll keep trying lol 2021-04-04T21:57:52 #kisslinux