[2023-03-19T01:02:45Z] <midfavila> https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=YWgBvslg6I0&listen=1
[2023-03-19T01:03:00Z] <midfavila> thad dark metal versus the brad synthpop
[2023-03-19T03:15:47Z] <sewn> its not dark metal smh
[2023-03-19T03:15:48Z] <sewn> https://invidious.lunar.icu/watch?v=lTOfNSCnpJY
[2023-03-19T06:15:44Z] <Ellowee[m]> I can't fucking retrieve some go dependency because fucking cryptoscope won't be fetched
[2023-03-19T07:30:38Z] <drez> whats a cryptoscope?
[2023-03-19T07:38:27Z] <testuser[m]123> Hi
[2023-03-19T08:06:52Z] <aelspire> Hi
[2023-03-19T14:50:02Z] <Ellowee[m]> <drez> "whats a cryptoscope?" <- Some go project that has that as dep but I keep getting refused connection
[2023-03-19T20:57:49Z] <dilyn> aw testuser I was hoping I could trick you into doing the elegant solution and just making go/build more elaborate:P
[2023-03-19T20:58:01Z] <dilyn> a separate bootstrap package Feels Bad :tm:
[2023-03-19T20:58:05Z] <midfavila> oh shit it's dilyn
[2023-03-19T20:58:10Z] <midfavila> long time no see man
[2023-03-19T20:59:29Z] <dilyn> I've been in hiding
[2023-03-19T21:00:15Z] <midfavila> jealous
[2023-03-19T21:00:38Z] <dilyn> :v
[2023-03-19T21:01:05Z] <dilyn> currently living the dream of debugging why this initrd won't boot properly:'(
[2023-03-19T21:02:30Z] <shokara> that's why I don't bother with initrd
[2023-03-19T21:02:34Z] <shokara> initrd's at all*
[2023-03-19T21:02:37Z] <midfavila> same honestly
[2023-03-19T21:02:52Z] <midfavila> but i've been considering looking into initrds just for the opportunity to fiddle with LUKS
[2023-03-19T21:03:07Z] <midfavila> oh yeah, btw dilyn, don't know if you care about stinky old X11 stuff but I'm working on porting CDE to kiss
[2023-03-19T21:03:53Z] <shokara> same, tinyramfs looked nice for that
[2023-03-19T21:04:17Z] <shokara> it'd be nice if cde works without tcl
[2023-03-19T21:04:55Z] <dilyn> x11 is gross and I've never liked it
[2023-03-19T21:04:57Z] <dilyn> :P
[2023-03-19T21:05:14Z] <dilyn> I refuse to use initrd if I can help it but in this case I'm working with a generic kernel so I need it to work
[2023-03-19T21:05:23Z] <dilyn> kmod is broken as far as I can tell
[2023-03-19T21:05:53Z] <midfavila> honestly, long-term i want to write my own display subsystem for unix
[2023-03-19T21:06:09Z] <midfavila> i don't like X11 based on its size alone
[2023-03-19T21:06:17Z] <shokara> not even tinyx?
[2023-03-19T21:06:32Z] <midfavila> tinyx is just an X server, you have to take into account everything you need to actually do work under X
[2023-03-19T21:06:46Z] <midfavila> the core X distribution and what it relies on is like
[2023-03-19T21:06:49Z] <midfavila> hundreds of thousands of lines of code
[2023-03-19T21:06:52Z] <midfavila> maybe even millions
[2023-03-19T21:06:54Z] <shokara> ah that's what you meant
[2023-03-19T21:06:57Z] <shokara> agreed
[2023-03-19T21:07:05Z] <midfavila> yeah, total stack complexity
[2023-03-19T21:07:09Z] <shokara> and I'm not a fan of wayland either
[2023-03-19T21:07:25Z] <midfavila> i maintain that mgr is half decent
[2023-03-19T21:33:40Z] <midfavila> *man*, finding an entry level job that doesn't *completely* suck is fucking impossible 
[2023-03-19T21:34:05Z] <midfavila> what the hell man, 30-40 years ago being able to program in BASIC was enough to get you a job out of high school. blah