2019-09-28T02:05:07 #kisslinux <nestman> is V a real language?
2019-09-28T02:05:47 #kisslinux <nestman> i see a lot of debates regarding it
2019-09-28T02:06:31 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Technically, maybe? But not a good language
2019-09-28T02:07:31 #kisslinux <nestman> i want to learn a good language which isn't C (unless there aren't any)
2019-09-28T02:07:39 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Definitely not V
2019-09-28T02:08:06 #kisslinux <Crestwave> IIRC it has major memory issues (someone exploited the playground) traded off for speed, it has specific optimizations for DOOM so he can brag about it, etc.
2019-09-28T02:08:43 #kisslinux <nestman> i'd like to try developing WMs, file managers, etc.
2019-09-28T02:10:01 #kisslinux <Crestwave> https://christine.website/blog/v-vaporware-2019-06-23
2019-09-28T02:10:45 #kisslinux <Crestwave> C++, maybe?
2019-09-28T02:15:07 #kisslinux <nestman> maybe i'll just try C
2019-09-28T02:15:42 #kisslinux <nestman> i just don't know where to properly start lol
2019-09-28T02:55:12 #kisslinux <nestman> will common office software gonna be packaged in the community?
2019-09-28T02:55:26 #kisslinux <nestman> like libreoffice or gimp, etc.
2019-09-28T04:01:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> nestman: take a look at Nim
2019-09-28T04:01:09 #kisslinux <icyphox> https://nim-lang.org
2019-09-28T04:02:11 #kisslinux <icyphox> Crestwave: the author of the article has since taken back most of what they said about V
2019-09-28T04:02:58 #kisslinux <icyphox> the language is still in development, and it's unfair to critisize it based on a few blunders that's bound to happen
2019-09-28T04:11:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just write Xorg stuff in bash with ctypes.sh
2019-09-28T04:12:37 #kisslinux <icyphox> lol wtf is that an actual project
2019-09-28T04:12:49 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Yep
2019-09-28T04:12:49 #kisslinux <icyphox> it's cool tbh
2019-09-28T04:12:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/taviso/ctypes.sh/
2019-09-28T04:13:26 #kisslinux <icyphox> nice, i'm going to try writing some RE tools in bash now
2019-09-28T04:16:53 #kisslinux <Crestwave> icyphox: Either way, it's definitely not something you'd want to learn right now.
2019-09-28T04:17:13 #kisslinux <icyphox> referring to V?
2019-09-28T04:17:52 #kisslinux <icyphox> yeah absolutely not
2019-09-28T06:36:25 #kisslinux <z3bra> yo
2019-09-28T06:38:20 #kisslinux <z3bra> sup there?
2019-09-28T07:17:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> House move complete
2019-09-28T07:17:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just went back and cleaned it.
2019-09-28T07:18:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> z3bra: hello
2019-09-28T07:21:54 #kisslinux <z3bra> hey hi!
2019-09-28T07:23:07 #kisslinux <z3bra> it took me some time but I'm finally there ;)
2019-09-28T07:23:23 #kisslinux <z3bra> I like to see new distros like this pop out of nowhere!
2019-09-28T07:23:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You trying it? :)
2019-09-28T07:24:07 #kisslinux <z3bra> nope haha
2019-09-28T07:24:19 #kisslinux <z3bra> I wish I had more time on my hands to try out new distros
2019-09-28T07:24:23 #kisslinux <z3bra> but
2019-09-28T07:24:29 #kisslinux <z3bra> I read the code!
2019-09-28T07:24:46 #kisslinux <z3bra> I tried to build my own distro, but I didn't came up with anything
2019-09-28T07:24:56 #kisslinux <z3bra> using musl + sbase from suckless
2019-09-28T07:25:03 #kisslinux <z3bra> and basically avoiding anything GNU
2019-09-28T07:25:08 #kisslinux <z3bra> it's really hard...
2019-09-28T07:33:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh yeah
2019-09-28T07:33:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So much can't be avoided nowadays.
2019-09-28T07:33:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Even removing something like gettext was difficult.
2019-09-28T07:33:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Dbus even more so.
2019-09-28T07:35:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Removing GNU is difficult since you can't drop autotools.
2019-09-28T07:36:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You *can* kinda drop gcc as of LLVM/Clang 9.0.0 but I don't really think they're a good replacement.
2019-09-28T07:37:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> tcc is interesting though it's no longer under development.
2019-09-28T07:41:28 #kisslinux <z3bra> I gave a try with pcc
2019-09-28T07:41:30 #kisslinux <z3bra> it's nice
2019-09-28T07:41:36 #kisslinux <z3bra> and can compile a lot of stuff
2019-09-28T07:42:05 #kisslinux <z3bra> while still being lightweight, and usually it produce static binaries that are lighters than gcc dynamic ones :P
2019-09-28T07:42:45 #kisslinux <z3bra> I was stuck at producing a self-hosted toolchain though
2019-09-28T07:43:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We based the first chroot on void or alpine (can't remember) and then built all the following chroots from the previous.
2019-09-28T07:43:45 #kisslinux <z3bra> that's probably what I'll end up doing
2019-09-28T07:43:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So 34 chroots ago it was built using void.
2019-09-28T07:44:04 #kisslinux <z3bra> but I truly wanted to build it like an LFS build
2019-09-28T07:44:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The other 33 were built from the previous.
2019-09-28T07:44:21 #kisslinux <z3bra> well done then ;)
2019-09-28T07:44:30 #kisslinux <z3bra> did you think about swapping busybox?
2019-09-28T07:44:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can swap it on KISS if you like.
2019-09-28T07:44:47 #kisslinux <z3bra> btw: http://blog.z3bra.org/2015/08/cross-compiling-with-pcc-and-musl.html
2019-09-28T07:45:01 #kisslinux <z3bra> swap with what?
2019-09-28T07:45:05 #kisslinux <z3bra> sbase?
2019-09-28T07:45:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Whatever you like.
2019-09-28T07:45:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You have to package whatever other coreutils you want to swap to.
2019-09-28T07:45:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Someone is using KISS with glibc/GNU coreutils
2019-09-28T07:45:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And systemd
2019-09-28T07:45:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> dbus, polkit etc
2019-09-28T07:45:39 #kisslinux <z3bra> well, yeah, just like for any distro out there :P
2019-09-28T07:45:49 #kisslinux <z3bra> "you just have to replace it" haha
2019-09-28T07:45:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's the point of KISS.
2019-09-28T07:46:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> User repositories are no different from the "official" ones.
2019-09-28T07:46:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can share them too.
2019-09-28T07:46:14 #kisslinux <z3bra> yeah I saw that
2019-09-28T07:46:22 #kisslinux <z3bra> that's a point I liked with crux as well
2019-09-28T07:46:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't like distributions with 6000+ packages in their repositories.
2019-09-28T07:46:25 #kisslinux <z3bra> user repos
2019-09-28T07:46:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS is built in a way where I can maintain it solo and keep it 100% up to date.
2019-09-28T07:47:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You might like this if you haven't seen it already: https://github.com/dylanaraps/pfetch
2019-09-28T07:47:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Read the source :P
2019-09-28T07:48:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You should try a static build of libressl under pcc/musl.
2019-09-28T07:49:08 #kisslinux <z3bra> I'm not quite into these *fetch scripts. I don't see the point
2019-09-28T07:49:22 #kisslinux <z3bra> yeah I could try
2019-09-28T07:51:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Someone is trying to get it added to BSD: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240873
2019-09-28T07:51:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> neat
2019-09-28T07:52:22 #kisslinux <z3bra> :)
2019-09-28T07:53:01 #kisslinux <z3bra> do you have an automatic build system?
2019-09-28T07:53:09 #kisslinux <z3bra> or you compile ports on your system?
2019-09-28T07:56:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> On my system.
2019-09-28T07:57:07 #kisslinux <z3bra> your port tree reminds me of sabotage :)
2019-09-28T07:57:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My KISS install doubles as a testbed.
2019-09-28T07:57:23 #kisslinux <z3bra> I see
2019-09-28T07:57:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> As does a second chroot running KISS.
2019-09-28T07:57:40 #kisslinux <z3bra> you chroot every build in a fresh install?
2019-09-28T07:57:45 #kisslinux <z3bra> to check dependencies?
2019-09-28T07:58:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The package manager in kiss detects any dependencies which are missing (through ldd).
2019-09-28T07:58:22 #kisslinux <z3bra> ah yeah I remember that
2019-09-28T07:58:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I only do extensive testing on the big packages (LLVM, GCC, Firefox, rust, etc etc).
2019-09-28T07:58:40 #kisslinux <z3bra> which means you can't link statically
2019-09-28T07:58:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can
2019-09-28T07:59:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Our busybox is static.
2019-09-28T07:59:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The dependency detector accompanies the package's dependency list in its repository files.
2019-09-28T07:59:26 #kisslinux <z3bra> yeah but that means no ldd
2019-09-28T07:59:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Which is fine since it'll have its dependencies 100% listed in the repository depends file.
2019-09-28T07:59:58 #kisslinux <z3bra> ofc
2019-09-28T08:00:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Wouldn't have compiled statically otherwise.
2019-09-28T08:00:16 #kisslinux <z3bra> that wasn't a critic ^^
2019-09-28T08:00:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :P
2019-09-28T08:00:34 #kisslinux <z3bra> you wrote all the ports yourself?
2019-09-28T08:00:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/graphs/contributors
2019-09-28T08:01:23 #kisslinux <z3bra> ;)
2019-09-28T08:01:36 #kisslinux <z3bra> when did you start the project btw?
2019-09-28T08:01:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> commit 0cda243d535f11e7c26b9182bc63e425deb5ba45
2019-09-28T08:01:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Author: Dylan Araps <dylan.araps⊙gc>
2019-09-28T08:01:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Date:   Thu May 9 09:46:50 2019 +0300
2019-09-28T08:02:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps>     new package manager experiment
2019-09-28T08:02:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> May 9 of this year.
2019-09-28T08:02:23 #kisslinux <z3bra> that grew fast
2019-09-28T08:02:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh yeah
2019-09-28T08:03:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I work on it 10-14 hours a day.
2019-09-28T08:03:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Less now that it's "done".
2019-09-28T08:03:54 #kisslinux <z3bra> commit 66e9a35f4dce30dcc81e76ce668712f26a623306
2019-09-28T08:03:54 #kisslinux <z3bra> parent f34627581eef934be0039ce7d4ea527a7c0f7e77
2019-09-28T08:03:54 #kisslinux <z3bra> Author: z3bra <contactatz3bradotorg>
2019-09-28T08:03:54 #kisslinux <z3bra> Date:   Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:57:23 +0200
2019-09-28T08:03:58 #kisslinux <z3bra> Ports: create basic building recipe using mk(1)
2019-09-28T08:04:07 #kisslinux <z3bra> mine didn't went far :P
2019-09-28T08:04:15 #kisslinux <z3bra> woww, 10/14h a day is a lot?
2019-09-28T08:04:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2019-09-28T08:04:25 #kisslinux <z3bra> what's your job?
2019-09-28T08:04:34 #kisslinux <z3bra> (if you have any?)
2019-09-28T08:04:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not technology related
2019-09-28T08:04:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My situation is hard to explain
2019-09-28T08:04:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > 6,083 contributions in the last year
2019-09-28T08:06:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> brb
2019-09-28T08:13:56 #kisslinux <knob> hey what are you guys using to take scrots on kiss?
2019-09-28T08:15:35 #kisslinux <icyphox> knob: probably `scrot` or `maim`
2019-09-28T08:15:45 #kisslinux <icyphox> or perhaps even `import -window root`
2019-09-28T08:16:32 #kisslinux <z3bra> I use xscreenshot + ff2png
2019-09-28T08:16:54 #kisslinux <z3bra> http://git.2f30.org/xscreenshot/file/README.html
2019-09-28T08:17:12 #kisslinux <z3bra> https://git.suckless.org/farbfeld/file/README.html
2019-09-28T08:17:27 #kisslinux <z3bra> probably not packaged on kiss yet
2019-09-28T08:17:33 #kisslinux <z3bra> still usable :)
2019-09-28T08:17:39 #kisslinux <knob> having trouble building scrot - needs imagemagick etc
2019-09-28T08:18:04 #kisslinux <icyphox> oh right, you have to /build/ stuff on KISS
2019-09-28T08:18:17 #kisslinux <z3bra> build the above, the only dependency is Xlib for xscreenshot
2019-09-28T08:18:19 #kisslinux <knob> i ll check out these other option you guys have mentioned - thanks
2019-09-28T08:18:23 #kisslinux <z3bra> both build fast
2019-09-28T08:18:26 #kisslinux <z3bra> and then
2019-09-28T08:18:36 #kisslinux <z3bra> xscreenshot | ff2png > scrot.png
2019-09-28T08:18:56 #kisslinux <z3bra> or keep it in farbeld format for supremacy :P
2019-09-28T08:19:01 #kisslinux <z3bra> *farbfeld
2019-09-28T08:19:38 #kisslinux <knob> thanks guys.
2019-09-28T08:22:34 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I'm not on KISS, but I use ffmpeg, which probably has a good chance to already be installed there
2019-09-28T08:22:56 #kisslinux <knob> @z3bra those look perfect
2019-09-28T08:23:52 #kisslinux <knob> @Crest yeah i did see that in one of the repos now you mention it
2019-09-28T08:25:00 #kisslinux <z3bra> ;)
2019-09-28T08:25:24 #kisslinux <Crestwave> A lot of software depends on it, e.g., Firefox, mpv, etc.
2019-09-28T08:26:23 #kisslinux <knob> yeah ill need that at some stage for sure. tu
2019-09-28T08:38:04 #kisslinux <Crestwave> dylanaraps: By the way, Haiku patches Neofetch. You may want to implement it into master
2019-09-28T08:38:16 #kisslinux <Crestwave> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/app-misc/neofetch/patches/neofetch-6.1.0.patchset
2019-09-28T08:39:16 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Not sure why he kept version around, though, and the tail command could probably be implemented with the awk
2019-09-28T08:40:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I really wish downstream would open bug reports or send the patches my way.
2019-09-28T08:41:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm unaware of these issues in Neofetch since I don't personally run or test on Haiku.
2019-09-28T08:43:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/dylanaraps/neofetch/commit/0ab8a2303f5f3d63d7c69e28a651f63a5a9c6141
2019-09-28T08:43:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Crestwave: Output of 'uname -s' on haiku?
2019-09-28T08:43:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Isn't it just "Haiku"?
2019-09-28T08:43:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't know why they patch out the version.
2019-09-28T08:44:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What's 'uname -sv'?
2019-09-28T08:45:48 #kisslinux <Crestwave> `uname -s` is Haiku, yes.
2019-09-28T08:47:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Version is in this format no?
2019-09-28T08:47:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'r33109 Sep 12 2009 17:45:45 '
2019-09-28T08:47:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Could just split after rXXXXX.
2019-09-28T08:47:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So 'Haiku r33109' for example.
2019-09-28T08:48:10 #kisslinux <user3> `uname -sv` is Haiku hrev52295+129 Mar  4 2019 10:03
2019-09-28T08:48:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Does 'Haiku hrev52295' make any sort of sense as the OS name in neofetch?
2019-09-28T08:49:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or should I leave it as "Haiku"?
2019-09-28T08:49:14 #kisslinux <user3> That's the current behavior on master, but it's included in kernel
2019-09-28T08:49:20 #kisslinux <user3>  Kernel: hrev52295+129 Mar 4 2019 10:03
2019-09-28T08:49:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Noted.
2019-09-28T08:49:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will omit it.
2019-09-28T08:49:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2019-09-28T08:50:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK, upstream patches won't be needed from the next version onwards.
2019-09-28T08:50:46 #kisslinux <Crestwave> And yeah, they're supposed to upstream patchsets but for some reason he chose not to
2019-09-28T08:51:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I had a problem with Solus doing the same a few years ago, only their patches broke things.
2019-09-28T08:52:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What's 'uname -r' on Haiku btw?
2019-09-28T08:52:45 #kisslinux <Crestwave> 1
2019-09-28T08:53:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2019-09-28T08:53:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Wikipedia has a nice uname table btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uname
2019-09-28T08:55:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Downloading OpenIndiana to add pfetch support now.
2019-09-28T08:55:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Packaging Qemu needed no additional dependencies which is nice.
2019-09-28T08:55:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Though I do a minimal build (no GUI).
2019-09-28T08:55:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'qemu-x-x -curses` is really nice.
2019-09-28T09:15:46 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I couldn't get OpenIndiana to boot in QEMU when I tried it. Maybe I'll try again
2019-09-28T09:18:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We'll see how I go.
2019-09-28T09:19:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I've booted it in Virtualbox before though this was many years ago.
2019-09-28T09:21:18 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I'm sure that it's possible; I probably just used the wrong commands
2019-09-28T09:22:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> [#abe130 116MiB/403MiB(28%) CN:1 DL:70KiB ETA:1h9m31s
2019-09-28T09:22:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I may try another OS. Their download mirror is slow for me.
2019-09-28T09:23:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or I'll see if there's a closer mirror.
2019-09-28T09:23:08 #kisslinux <Crestwave> lol
2019-09-28T09:27:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> MINIX it is
2019-09-28T09:28:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> [#7c2aec 1.0MiB/287MiB(0%) CN:1 DL:39KiB ETA:2h2m
2019-09-28T09:28:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Maybe it is me
2019-09-28T09:28:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> [#88f0a7 12MiB/287MiB(4%) CN:44 SD:20 DL:1.3MiB ETA:3m26s]
2019-09-28T09:28:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Torrent is fine :D
2019-09-28T09:33:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> MINIX is booting
2019-09-28T09:33:53 #kisslinux <Crestwave> My internet speed is 360KB/s so I don't really mind a "slow" downloda
2019-09-28T09:35:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Mine used to be like that in Australia.
2019-09-28T09:35:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm not used to 1.3MBps down
2019-09-28T09:39:49 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Where are you now, by the way?
2019-09-28T09:40:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Greece
2019-09-28T09:40:53 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Ah, I thought you moved somewhere else
2019-09-28T09:41:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I moved 200 metres down the road from where I was.
2019-09-28T09:41:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Maybe a bit further
2019-09-28T09:42:50 #kisslinux <Crestwave> lol
2019-09-28T09:43:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I did about 20~ trips up and down with suitcases full of stuff.
2019-09-28T09:43:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Grabbing the cats last night was a nightmare
2019-09-28T09:47:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps>                     /mnt/share/calendar/calendar.christian                                          
2019-09-28T09:47:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2019-09-28T09:47:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> An essential for a minimal system
2019-09-28T09:49:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> >  POSIX-compliant operating system with a NetBSD userland
2019-09-28T09:49:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Interesting.
2019-09-28T09:55:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> tdeo: What's the simplest way to list all installed packages with nix?
2019-09-28T11:22:04 #kisslinux <Woodi> repo   http://repo.or.cz/tinycc.git  show activity 12 days ago...
2019-09-28T11:31:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Huh
2019-09-28T11:31:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> >  [Note: I am no longer working on TCC. Check the mailing list to get up to date information.]
2019-09-28T11:31:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> From the website.
2019-09-28T11:44:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> MINIX's sh has no support for $((var+=)) or $((var=0>1?0:1))
2019-09-28T11:44:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> big sad :(
2019-09-28T11:51:38 #kisslinux <z3bra> dylanaraps, https://p.iotek.org/icc
2019-09-28T11:51:51 #kisslinux <z3bra> free of charge :)
2019-09-28T11:52:49 #kisslinux <z3bra> I had a couple minutes so I figured that rather than bitching about the usage of the crux mascot for pfetch, I'd give you one ;)
2019-09-28T11:53:05 #kisslinux <z3bra> it's not perfect, but it's a start
2019-09-28T11:54:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thank you but I wouldn't call what's on the website (or the github avatar) the logo.
2019-09-28T11:54:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's also too big for use with pfetch.
2019-09-28T11:57:08 #kisslinux <z3bra> whatever, it's done now, so feel free to reuse or ditch
2019-09-28T11:57:42 #kisslinux <z3bra> though as that's the only icon on the website, people will probably assimilate it to the logo
2019-09-28T12:03:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm still thinking about what kind of logo KISS would have.
2019-09-28T12:06:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Minix support in pfetch is done!
2019-09-28T13:41:29 #kisslinux <nestman> i am weak
2019-09-28T13:41:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> what
2019-09-28T13:41:50 #kisslinux <nestman> i went back to void
2019-09-28T13:45:08 #kisslinux <nestman> i felt the need for things like libreoffice, gimp, etc.
2019-09-28T13:45:50 #kisslinux <nestman> but i don't know how to package them, too many dependencies and maybe other factors i knwo nothing about yet
2019-09-28T13:52:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's fine
2019-09-28T14:13:15 #kisslinux <Crestwave> By the way, pfetch's get_memory is broken on yash as it doesn't consider $val's value a valid number because of the spaces. You'll have to trim it
2019-09-28T14:17:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Noted
2019-09-28T14:18:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Building yash now
2019-09-28T14:18:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Which OS has broken get_memory btw?
2019-09-28T14:19:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Linux huh
2019-09-28T14:24:01 #kisslinux <KayW> ive never heard of yash until now
2019-09-28T14:24:13 #kisslinux <KayW> it looks pretty good
2019-09-28T14:25:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> tar: invalid tar magic
2019-09-28T14:25:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> !> yash Couldn't extract yash-2.49.tar.xz
2019-09-28T14:25:11 #kisslinux <KayW> yikes
2019-09-28T14:25:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> busybox tar can't handle it huh
2019-09-28T14:25:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Actually
2019-09-28T14:25:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's busybox wget failing to download the whole thing.
2019-09-28T14:25:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or it's the server itself.
2019-09-28T14:26:03 #kisslinux <KayW> it installed successfully for me on arch from the AUR
2019-09-28T14:26:22 #kisslinux <KayW> i think its just busybox shitting itself?
2019-09-28T14:26:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's their server, it has 8 redirects(?)
2019-09-28T14:26:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> causes busybox wget to die
2019-09-28T14:27:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> WARNING: yash is designed for systems that conform to POSIX.1-2001
2019-09-28T14:27:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps>          but your system does not
2019-09-28T14:27:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Build dies there
2019-09-28T14:27:45 #kisslinux <KayW> https://osdn.net/dl/yash/yash-2.49.tar.xz heres from osdn
2019-09-28T14:28:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Actually:  error: 'SSIZE_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function); did you mean 'SIZE_MAX'?
2019-09-28T14:28:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's where I got it from.
2019-09-28T14:28:26 #kisslinux <KayW> oh
2019-09-28T14:28:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And where busybox wget chokes
2019-09-28T14:36:42 #kisslinux <KayW> woah, this is a really nice shell
2019-09-28T14:46:21 #kisslinux <Guest99757> hello
2019-09-28T14:46:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hello
2019-09-28T14:46:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yash doesn't build on musl
2019-09-28T14:46:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Sad
2019-09-28T14:47:07 #kisslinux <Guest99757> what is the topic of this channel
2019-09-28T14:48:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS - https://getkiss.org - logs: https://freenode.logbot.info/kisslinux
2019-09-28T14:48:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's for KISS Linux, however chat tends to also be general linux/unix stuff.
2019-09-28T14:49:25 #kisslinux <Guest99757> oh great
2019-09-28T14:49:38 #kisslinux <Guest99757> it seems very useful to me
2019-09-28T14:59:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Actually, Alpine has yash.
2019-09-28T15:37:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fixed yash.
2019-09-28T15:38:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS provides no 'getconf' which causes the configure script to say it doesn't follow POSIX which then causes the build to fail.
2019-09-28T16:24:22 #kisslinux <dithpri> how do you guys recommended doing backups? a simple tar? I've been using btrfs' send-receive for now but I'm looking for something filesystem-agnostic
2019-09-28T16:24:44 #kisslinux <dithpri> And incremental would be a huge bonus
2019-09-28T16:25:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I backup my password store and my photos manually.
2019-09-28T16:25:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's all I backup.
2019-09-28T16:25:39 #kisslinux <dithpri> what about configs/dotfiles?
2019-09-28T16:25:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also my SSH/GPG stuff
2019-09-28T16:25:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> They're on GitHub.
2019-09-28T16:26:00 #kisslinux <dithpri> kk
2019-09-28T16:26:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's the extent of my "precious" files/data.
2019-09-28T16:26:19 #kisslinux <dithpri> do you just tar the photos and pass?
2019-09-28T16:26:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> A simple cp or rsync
2019-09-28T16:26:38 #kisslinux <dithpri> huh
2019-09-28T16:26:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It depends
2019-09-28T16:26:44 #kisslinux <dithpri> what about compression?
2019-09-28T16:26:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> meh
2019-09-28T16:26:53 #kisslinux <dithpri> xD
2019-09-28T16:26:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I have a lot of drives
2019-09-28T16:27:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No use in compression if I have the space
2019-09-28T16:27:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's 80GB in photos/videos going back 10 years.
2019-09-28T16:27:54 #kisslinux <dithpri> that doesn't seem like a whole lot
2019-09-28T16:28:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> A lot are from really old phones
2019-09-28T16:28:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No DSLR stuff
2019-09-28T16:28:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No raws etc
2019-09-28T16:28:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just "ok" resolution jpg files
2019-09-28T16:29:06 #kisslinux <dithpri> oh ok that makes sense
2019-09-28T17:16:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2019-09-28T17:16:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Welcome
2019-09-28T17:37:31 #kisslinux <dithpri> lol
2019-09-28T20:32:46 #kisslinux <DeMysteriisMundi> REGISTER password #kisslinux
2019-09-28T20:34:12 #kisslinux <KayW> huh?
2019-09-28T20:42:56 #kisslinux <KayW> dude what are you doing
2019-09-28T20:44:40 #kisslinux <DeMysteriisMundi> Sorry. I am here first time.
2019-09-28T20:45:51 #kisslinux <KayW> oh ok