[2021-09-15T02:37:05Z] How is nuklear's accessiblity? [2021-09-15T03:28:45Z] how much do you think it would cost to sponsor mold so that the license can change :V [2021-09-15T03:38:31Z] Hi [2021-09-15T03:39:20Z] o/ [2021-09-15T03:46:47Z] dilyn: did you get my patches in your email? [2021-09-15T03:47:34Z] hi testuser[m]! [2021-09-15T03:48:28Z] which email did you send to? [2021-09-15T03:48:44Z] tutanota [2021-09-15T03:49:10Z] straight to spam! [2021-09-15T03:49:14Z] lol [2021-09-15T03:49:24Z] lol [2021-09-15T03:49:27Z] i'll apply them tho thx [2021-09-15T03:49:42Z] bruh, i assumed using migadu would fix that [2021-09-15T03:49:58Z] idk man tutanota is strict AF about their emails [2021-09-15T03:50:13Z] "Hopefully Tutanota accepts mail from Migadu." kekw [2021-09-15T03:51:57Z] I check my spam on there about once a day to clear it out because of it so I would've seen them in the morning [2021-09-15T03:52:01Z] but yeah it's a little frustrating [2021-09-15T03:53:12Z] hm the real question is what format does git expect these to be in for git am [2021-09-15T03:53:36Z] maybe the same it uses for creating them? [2021-09-15T03:53:38Z] git format-patch ? [2021-09-15T03:53:52Z] probably [2021-09-15T03:54:06Z] do you use webmail? [2021-09-15T03:55:17Z] tutanota doesn't have a desktop client that would build (without dbus) and they wont' let you connect via something like aerc :\ [2021-09-15T03:55:35Z] they don't support imap or pop3? [2021-09-15T03:55:48Z] they don't [2021-09-15T03:56:09Z] what kind of email service is that [2021-09-15T03:56:18Z] also iirc their client is simply a js wrapper, otherwise there would already be a simpler alternative [2021-09-15T03:56:29Z] noocsharp: one of those "encrypted" services, a la protonmail [2021-09-15T03:56:36Z] it's like protonmail except they don't even have a bridge afaik [2021-09-15T03:56:50Z] Lol [2021-09-15T03:56:50Z] I ditched it as soon as possible and switched to posteo, just 1€/month [2021-09-15T03:57:13Z] seriously, there hasn't been any good "free" mail service I could find [2021-09-15T03:57:13Z] yeah i'm considering it [2021-09-15T03:57:21Z] KISSmail [2021-09-15T03:57:24Z] my premium expires end of month iirc [2021-09-15T03:57:29Z] lol testuser yes [2021-09-15T03:57:34Z] testuser[m]: written in POSIX shell [2021-09-15T03:57:35Z] soon(tm) life is literal chaos... [2021-09-15T03:58:05Z] tomorrow, if nothing comes up during my lunch, the vps might reappear inexplicably... [2021-09-15T03:58:11Z] mailbox.org [2021-09-15T03:58:13Z] is very good [2021-09-15T03:58:16Z] (although proprietary) [2021-09-15T03:58:42Z] f [2021-09-15T03:58:43Z] yay vps [2021-09-15T03:58:51Z] migadu is $20 a year, seems good so far [2021-09-15T03:59:05Z] they also have a student discount [2021-09-15T03:59:06Z] but you need a domain [2021-09-15T03:59:09Z] yes [2021-09-15T03:59:14Z] which you should have anyways [2021-09-15T03:59:18Z] yeah, $10 a year with student discount [2021-09-15T03:59:21Z] i'm on the trial right now [2021-09-15T03:59:25Z] nice [2021-09-15T03:59:41Z] mailbox.org is $14/yr [2021-09-15T03:59:46Z] a vps sounds unironically like the best option if you already have one [2021-09-15T03:59:48Z] but less restrictive [2021-09-15T04:00:00Z] migadu's logo is an elephant?? [2021-09-15T04:00:01Z] sold [2021-09-15T04:00:05Z] based [2021-09-15T04:00:25Z] migadu isn't particularly transparent from what i've heard [2021-09-15T04:00:37Z] but you cant really go wrong with either [2021-09-15T04:00:42Z] in what way? [2021-09-15T04:00:44Z] posteo is fine, but no custom domains IIRC [2021-09-15T04:00:55Z] i sent them an email and they told me what software they use [2021-09-15T04:01:16Z] acheam: yeah that's a big bummer but with someone constrained like me this is the cheapest option I could find [2021-09-15T04:01:26Z] noocsharp: i dont remember exactly, but someone mentioned planned deliverability issues that they didn't disclose very well/notify about [2021-09-15T04:01:38Z] obviously very anecdotal [2021-09-15T04:01:55Z] can't be worse than tutanota [2021-09-15T04:02:03Z] they take my soon(tm) to the n^th degree [2021-09-15T04:02:48Z] migadu looks nice [2021-09-15T04:02:55Z] it's very bad for people who are very serious/businessy with their email, but is pretty solid for a simple person who subscribes to mailing lists/does very little, only wants to read emails and not much more [2021-09-15T04:03:05Z] well worth the $13/yr tbh for those purposes [2021-09-15T04:03:38Z] wait, what's $13/yr? [2021-09-15T04:03:50Z] tuta [2021-09-15T04:03:59Z] oh, I see [2021-09-15T04:03:59Z] tuta also has a nice variety of domains to choose from [2021-09-15T04:04:07Z] mmhmm [2021-09-15T04:04:09Z] mine was firstname@tutamail.com [2021-09-15T04:04:33Z] which you certainly cant get on gmail [2021-09-15T04:04:37Z] no domain will make you comfortable telling your email to normies [2021-09-15T04:04:44Z] i wanna use the phrase "CC me at dilyn@dilyn.cc pls" [2021-09-15T04:04:44Z] unless your name is 2ji3ri3oir32rqoir32oij [2021-09-15T04:04:48Z] lmao [2021-09-15T04:05:38Z] "someone run me a line of 10 CCs of Dilyn in an IV, stat!" [2021-09-15T04:05:47Z] -- some american medical show somewhere [2021-09-15T04:06:05Z] "we're losing him" [2021-09-15T04:06:05Z] f [2021-09-15T04:06:51Z] the gnuuugle is getting to him! [2021-09-15T04:07:57Z] :'( [2021-09-15T04:08:09Z] they're upset that i've widdled the GPL out of this distro as much as humanly possible [2021-09-15T04:08:43Z] I'm still waiting for the MIT/Unlicense Linux reimplementation [2021-09-15T04:09:13Z] dilyn: just run openbsd [2021-09-15T04:09:25Z] kbs when [2021-09-15T04:09:26Z] no! [2021-09-15T04:09:30Z] riteo: soon [2021-09-15T04:09:39Z] s/kbs/kbsd [2021-09-15T04:09:41Z] although reilistically, after january [2021-09-15T04:09:48Z] wait seriously [2021-09-15T04:09:51Z] when I am done with college aps, and I have free time again [2021-09-15T04:09:52Z] yes [2021-09-15T04:10:15Z] its really not that much to do [2021-09-15T04:10:19Z] kiss is just a package manager after all [2021-09-15T04:10:25Z] and claudia already did a ton of work on it [2021-09-15T04:10:29Z] the problem with using someone else's distro is they'll just ram pango into things [2021-09-15T04:10:34Z] like what they do for chromium :V :V :V [2021-09-15T04:10:43Z] I'm curious how well the OBSD kernel would withstand being used in non common ways [2021-09-15T04:10:46Z] I feel very uncomfortable using ubuntu :| [2021-09-15T04:10:58Z] riteo: well i'm not planning on using just the obsd kernel [2021-09-15T04:11:07Z] oh [2021-09-15T04:11:09Z] the whole userland [2021-09-15T04:11:13Z] I see [2021-09-15T04:11:17Z] how heavy is it? [2021-09-15T04:11:25Z] obsd kernel + busybox ruins most of what makes obsd special [2021-09-15T04:11:28Z] you have to use it to understand [2021-09-15T04:11:35Z] but its just a really well integrated operating system [2021-09-15T04:11:35Z] got it [2021-09-15T04:12:02Z] talking about weird kernel combinations, has someone ever tried messing up with L4? [2021-09-15T04:12:21Z] I don't know if there are even the drivers for a common PC, but I wonder what could be done with it [2021-09-15T04:13:20Z] KISS-OS when? [2021-09-15T04:13:44Z] it's called templeos and it's unusable [2021-09-15T04:14:07Z] actually I heard someone forked it and added internet access, so I guess it's slightly more usable [2021-09-15T04:14:16Z] but terry must be spinning in his grave [2021-09-15T04:14:28Z] truly an heresy, I know [2021-09-15T04:16:15Z] I'm curious if it would be possible to hack KISS onto the OpenBSD or Plan9 kernel [2021-09-15T04:16:34Z] on openbsd for sure ig [2021-09-15T04:17:24Z] on plan9 I guess it depends on whether or not there is a POSIX shell there and if it doesn't have some weird mechanism messing KISS up, which it probably doesn't have but I never got past the installer lol [2021-09-15T04:28:05Z] Just port kiss to rc [2021-09-15T04:28:08Z] Or whatever thing they ave [2021-09-15T04:29:37Z] i think rc is posix compliant [2021-09-15T04:29:40Z] so in theory it should work [2021-09-15T04:29:54Z] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/google-patches-10th-chrome-zero-day-exploited-in-the-wild-this-year/ [2021-09-15T04:29:59Z] Bruh i don't wanna update this shit again [2021-09-15T04:30:22Z] do you unironically use chromium? [2021-09-15T04:30:27Z] Real kiss users don't use js anyway [2021-09-15T04:30:49Z] based and kisspilled [2021-09-15T04:31:01Z] yes [2021-09-15T04:31:27Z] just use `curl` [2021-09-15T04:33:24Z] riteo: But I would unironically use a KISS-OS if it existed [2021-09-15T04:33:47Z] finally the possibility for 0% GPL! [2021-09-15T04:34:11Z] you know what [2021-09-15T04:34:35Z] one day I should really disappear from society for a few days in order to investigate this L4 thing properly [2021-09-15T04:35:16Z] it might even just last a few days, but in sessions of even a few hours I never got to properly understand the whole situation regarding alternative kernels [2021-09-15T04:35:51Z] riteo: did you find a good email provider [2021-09-15T04:36:02Z] oh yeah, I chose posteo [2021-09-15T04:36:13Z] oh interesting [2021-09-15T04:36:19Z] I was going to recommend you cock.li lol [2021-09-15T04:36:21Z] http://cock.li [2021-09-15T04:36:24Z] it doesn't have custom domains but for 1€/month I can't complain lol [2021-09-15T04:36:37Z] GalaxyNova: I heard that it goes down a lot [2021-09-15T04:36:50Z] also it doesn't have a good reputation in general regarding spam filters [2021-09-15T04:36:50Z] I've had to re-enable js again cuz these webdevs messed up the whole menu design [2021-09-15T04:36:53Z] https://0x0.st/-xG5.mp4 [2021-09-15T04:37:09Z] idk what need they had to implement scrolling on a menu with 7 items [2021-09-15T04:37:20Z] same with extension's settings, cant click on the button [2021-09-15T04:38:00Z] truly scalable ui [2021-09-15T04:38:15Z] thanks chrome, now I can use your browser on my 2835x5527 screen [2021-09-15T04:39:04Z] I wish there was a genuinely good lightweight web browser that could load most web pages and didn't take centuries to compile [2021-09-15T04:39:18Z] felinks [2021-09-15T04:39:28Z] most web pages and lightweight don't go well toghether, GalaxyNova [2021-09-15T04:39:36Z] have you seen what most webpages look like? [2021-09-15T04:39:38Z] is that just another links fork testuser [2021-09-15T04:40:01Z] yeah [2021-09-15T04:40:11Z] how many links fork are there [2021-09-15T04:40:19Z] its a elinks fork [2021-09-15T04:40:22Z] not links [2021-09-15T04:40:22Z] riteo: https://ubuntuunity.org/ <-- visit at your own risk [2021-09-15T04:40:42Z] ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww [2021-09-15T04:40:46Z] WTF [2021-09-15T04:40:47Z] ubuntu unity's website is the definition of web bloat [2021-09-15T04:41:07Z] HOLY FUCK [2021-09-15T04:41:07Z] it takes like 5 minues to load too lmao [2021-09-15T04:41:15Z] I'VE NEVER SEEN A PAGE CHANGE SO MUCH WHILE LOADING [2021-09-15T04:41:26Z] also those animations, wtf [2021-09-15T04:41:36Z] so.. much... css... [2021-09-15T04:42:13Z] it even got those flat "minimalist" and soulless pictures [2021-09-15T04:42:42Z] it's almost like the devs just learnt about some css animation framework and tried to pack every single element with an animation [2021-09-15T04:42:54Z] it's so bloated it's objectively bad [2021-09-15T04:43:05Z] look at that thing with pages [2021-09-15T04:43:10Z] it's unusable [2021-09-15T04:43:30Z] (is it called carousel? I can't remember) [2021-09-15T04:44:03Z] How can something suck so bad [2021-09-15T04:44:03Z] how [2021-09-15T04:44:45Z] after seeing this I want to uninstall firefox and switch to gemini forever [2021-09-15T04:45:19Z] now that kisslinux.org doesn't even have that "fancy" css anymore I really don't see why there souldn't be a gemini mirror for it [2021-09-15T04:45:30Z] s/souldn't/shouldn't/ [2021-09-15T04:45:30Z] now that kisslinux.org doesn't even have that "fancy" css anymore I really don't see why there shouldn't be a gemini mirror for it [2021-09-15T04:45:39Z] that site wont' even load for me lmfao [2021-09-15T04:45:47Z] lmao [2021-09-15T04:45:50Z] i think kiedtl has one but its out of date [2021-09-15T04:45:50Z] give it a minute [2021-09-15T04:45:54Z] it needs to load all the css and js [2021-09-15T04:45:58Z] oh no i see [2021-09-15T04:46:04Z] i have to hit the x button in the top-right corner [2021-09-15T04:46:26Z] alright i begin my felinks + ff for pozzed sites journey again [2021-09-15T04:46:28Z] yes, that's how you load "modern" html/css/js web pages [2021-09-15T04:46:55Z] testuser[m]: good luck [2021-09-15T04:47:33Z] testuser[m]: what features does felinks have over links [2021-09-15T04:47:52Z] I'm really starting to think that I should use dedicated CLIs for services I use (pretty much shithub) and try to avoid depending on firefox as much as possible [2021-09-15T04:48:23Z] GalaxyNova: css [2021-09-15T04:48:31Z] If you have a job or go to school it's basically impossible to do that where i live riteo [2021-09-15T04:48:49Z] especailly now during the pandemic [2021-09-15T04:49:11Z] basically that's only feasable if you're unemployed [2021-09-15T04:49:14Z] Yeah riteo i use shithub cli, the only site i need to login to is protonmail. And poogle for school stuff [2021-09-15T04:49:45Z] GalaxyNova: I pretty much only use google classroom [2021-09-15T04:49:59Z] if there were something like this written in C I might not need it: https://github.com/conorthedev/classroom-cli [2021-09-15T04:50:43Z] I wonder if someone ported plan9's abaco web browser to linux [2021-09-15T04:51:08Z] You can be the first [2021-09-15T04:51:39Z] lol [2021-09-15T04:51:50Z] it's very integrated with Plan9's gui so it might be a pain to port [2021-09-15T04:53:27Z] hm. this qemu image experienced a drastic power failure, systemd wouldn't let it boot for surreal reasons [2021-09-15T04:53:47Z] attempted a fix, and in 300 seconds systemd's journal filled the entire 50GB qcow2 file with garbage. [2021-09-15T04:53:50Z] fuckin' love it [2021-09-15T04:54:22Z] just systemd being systemd [2021-09-15T04:54:27Z] they did it [2021-09-15T04:54:32Z] they pushed systemd-backdoor [2021-09-15T04:54:32Z] (: [2021-09-15T04:54:52Z] absolutely useless [2021-09-15T04:54:56Z] systemd-backdoord* [2021-09-15T04:55:00Z] bc its a unix daemon [2021-09-15T04:55:04Z] like i don't even know how to fix this [2021-09-15T04:55:16Z] this is beyond my technical knowledge. how ubuntu sets up ZFS is a black box [2021-09-15T04:57:06Z] Just the other day I was wondering why an advanced distro like KISS Linux is somehow easier for me to use than Manjaro [2021-09-15T04:57:24Z] because if you're competent enough, you know everything about the system [2021-09-15T04:57:54Z] at least when KISS' init fails, it tells me why. it's not obfuscated by absurdities like "graphical.target failed because 'exit error'" [2021-09-15T04:58:02Z] like, what the fuck does that help me with [2021-09-15T04:58:26Z] Do it dilyn [2021-09-15T04:58:30Z] Make canonical adopt kiss [2021-09-15T04:58:41Z] lmao [2021-09-15T04:59:20Z] lol [2021-09-15T04:59:33Z] and of course I can't open up qcow2 images in... a sane manner... [2021-09-15T04:59:38Z] urgh [2021-09-15T04:59:45Z] nuke and hope I remember my changes I guess... [2021-09-15T05:03:05Z] super want to dual boot ubuntu on this machine so I don't have to rely on qemu for big snaps/ease of use, but they'll force grub onto this machine. and grub is a firehouse when all I want is a squirt bottle [2021-09-15T05:03:20Z] even trying to use kiss-live, grub just nukes all my efivars. it's insanity [2021-09-15T05:03:26Z] just... don't fucking do that, eh? pls? [2021-09-15T05:03:39Z] bruh [2021-09-15T05:03:55Z] wasn't the point of free software being in control of your machine [2021-09-15T05:04:01Z] :) [2021-09-15T05:04:16Z] maybe this is why wsl is so popular, eh? [2021-09-15T05:11:45Z] wait why are you running an ubuntu vm in the first place dilyn [2021-09-15T05:12:07Z] to build a chromium snap that only uses wayland and enables pipewire for screensharing to run on my laptop [2021-09-15T05:12:19Z] ah [2021-09-15T05:12:35Z] pipewire scares me [2021-09-15T05:12:45Z] it's the only way for firefox to do screensharing on wayland no? [2021-09-15T05:14:02Z] bruh seriously? [2021-09-15T05:14:20Z] yeah GalaxyNova i tried it yesterday didnt even work but thats probably a config issue [2021-09-15T05:14:43Z] https://git.git-bruh.duckdns.org/kiss-repo/commit/af53c6dc638e6fffbb0fe47a8e12e13cee6114c8.html [2021-09-15T05:14:43Z] https://git.git-bruh.duckdns.org/kiss-repo/commit/c2d0208c5d6c04158266864a723b1b7da8768ed5.html [2021-09-15T05:14:43Z] had to package so much crap [2021-09-15T05:14:45Z] pipewire is v cool [2021-09-15T05:15:13Z] dilyn: You're aware that pipewire is basically just a layer on top of pulseaudio right? [2021-09-15T05:15:30Z] it doesnt need pulse [2021-09-15T05:15:31Z] bruh [2021-09-15T05:15:37Z] oh [2021-09-15T05:16:08Z] I didn't know that either [2021-09-15T05:16:14Z] yeah it absolutely isn't that lmao [2021-09-15T05:16:18Z] it's meant to replace pulseaudio [2021-09-15T05:16:28Z] interesting [2021-09-15T05:16:31Z] i didn't know that lol [2021-09-15T05:16:35Z] the chromium snap is dropping pulseaudio when snap 1.51 reaches global adoption [2021-09-15T05:16:44Z] READ a BOOK, NERD! [2021-09-15T05:16:46Z] :P [2021-09-15T05:16:51Z] testuser does this do what I think it does https://git.sr.ht/~emersion/basu [2021-09-15T05:16:56Z] why is it needed for screen sharing? [2021-09-15T05:17:40Z] yeah you need either basu, elogind or systemd [2021-09-15T05:17:50Z] what is basu? [2021-09-15T05:18:22Z] The sd-bus library, extracted from systemd. [2021-09-15T05:18:46Z] nice i guess [2021-09-15T05:19:13Z] I dont even know what it's supposed to do [2021-09-15T05:19:20Z] but it's needed [2021-09-15T05:19:32Z] way different topic, but why didn't you guys make kisscommunity.org in the style of kisslinux.org? [2021-09-15T05:19:32Z] > Some projects rely on the sd-bus library for DBus support. [2021-09-15T05:21:18Z] either way I'm confident Dylan would never include pipewire in the main repository haha [2021-09-15T05:21:52Z] i can ask him, but the answer would be no [2021-09-15T05:21:59Z] yeah I don't think so. My biggest question is why it's needed for videosharing in the first place [2021-09-15T05:22:08Z] is it just because of flatpaks? [2021-09-15T05:22:20Z] it was just decided to use it by the protocol [2021-09-15T05:22:22Z] so [2021-09-15T05:22:26Z] aws: I woudn't even bother [2021-09-15T05:22:59Z] a request to dylan to fork every single one of these things and make them communicate via regular sockets would be more feasible aws [2021-09-15T05:23:05Z] How hard would it be to patch out pipewire with something else [2021-09-15T05:23:18Z] it's required because pipewire was designed from the ground up to be an useful way of capturing and interacting with a variety of systems like video and audio [2021-09-15T05:23:29Z] and connecting them in ways pulseaudio was supposed to, but failed to [2021-09-15T05:23:40Z] GalaxyNova: Other stuff is hard dependant on dbus aswell, not just pipewire so its not a small task [2021-09-15T05:23:57Z] pipewire provides a solid way of capturing video, and the way it interacts with dbus allows wayland to leverage it for screen capturing pretty well [2021-09-15T05:24:06Z] >dbus [2021-09-15T05:24:06Z] wait [2021-09-15T05:24:12Z] does it depend on dbus? [2021-09-15T05:24:20Z] afaik it's basically impossible to NOT use pipewire for wayland screen capturing [2021-09-15T05:24:28Z] to make it useful in this context it does [2021-09-15T05:24:29Z] :( [2021-09-15T05:24:38Z] but you could try to build it with libdbus-stub; i did, it built [2021-09-15T05:24:41Z] didn't quite run super well tho [2021-09-15T05:24:48Z] now I see why it isn't in KISS Linux [2021-09-15T05:24:50Z] we have stuff like wf-recorder so why woudn't it be possible for things like firefox to implement something like that too [2021-09-15T05:24:59Z] Browser wayland screensharing use pipewire, using another daemon (that isn't designed to mimic pipewire) would require upstream support for them in browsers i think [2021-09-15T05:25:12Z] bruh [2021-09-15T05:25:32Z] I mean, the idea is actually pretty nice, but why does everything new and shiny have to depend on a shitton of "modern" software? [2021-09-15T05:25:54Z] also it was initially called PulseVideo, which I find funny [2021-09-15T05:26:10Z] *for some reason [2021-09-15T05:27:42Z] I can't see it being to hard to use wf-recorder as a backend to screensharing in firefox [2021-09-15T05:27:50Z] so why did the guys go with pipewire [2021-09-15T05:28:18Z] I guess the fact that it's: "modern", widely used and configuration independent (in a way) [2021-09-15T05:28:27Z] like, it does all the hard work AFAICT [2021-09-15T05:28:51Z] still, some sort of shim that interfaces with pipewire dependent applications and just does the bare minimum doesn't sound impossible [2021-09-15T05:29:05Z] unless firefox uses dbus for interacting with pipewire [2021-09-15T05:31:37Z] i mean pipewire is also used for rtc reasons and wf-recorder probably isn't very good for those things [2021-09-15T05:32:18Z] https://github.com/microsoft/vcpkg/discussions/17062 [2021-09-15T05:32:19Z] oops [2021-09-15T05:32:30Z] wrong chat [2021-09-15T05:34:25Z] no worries [2021-09-15T05:37:10Z] I've seen someone hack `grim` in a while loop to take lots fo screenshots and then write them to /dev/video [2021-09-15T05:37:34Z] where [2021-09-15T05:38:14Z] oh i think i saw that too... [2021-09-15T05:38:18Z] it was pretty dope lmao [2021-09-15T05:38:24Z] that doesn't sound very efficient though [2021-09-15T05:38:29Z] or is it [2021-09-15T05:38:32Z] could wf-recorder be used like that? [2021-09-15T05:40:12Z] I mean it would be very akward since chatting websites would detect the video as camera video [2021-09-15T05:41:12Z] that's literally how I used discord for half an year [2021-09-15T05:41:20Z] lol [2021-09-15T05:41:35Z] I just don't know that the overhead is any better than pipewire [2021-09-15T05:41:41Z] like pipewire seems pretty slim [2021-09-15T05:41:42Z] i dont even have a /dev/video [2021-09-15T05:42:04Z] oh i guess i need camera support [2021-09-15T05:42:06Z] v4l to the rescue [2021-09-15T05:42:16Z] based and v4l2pilled [2021-09-15T05:42:28Z] between v4l and kvm support my kernel is twice as big as I need it to be :V [2021-09-15T05:42:36Z] but why install something that can do advanced audio/video manipulation only for screensharing [2021-09-15T05:43:04Z] are you talking about ffmpeg [2021-09-15T05:43:37Z] well because it's the way chromium devs implemented screensharing under wayland [2021-09-15T05:43:43Z] idk [2021-09-15T05:44:18Z] btw talking about kernel size, do you guys think that compressing the kernel is any useful? [2021-09-15T05:44:42Z] not supremely [2021-09-15T05:44:50Z] doing that made my disk decryption prompt blink its cursor once and as stupid as it sounds it's kinda annoying [2021-09-15T05:44:54Z] riteo well I use ffmpeg for a lot more than just screensharing [2021-09-15T05:45:11Z] nvm, I thought you actually meant v4l2 [2021-09-15T05:45:13Z] it's basically the only way to convert between different video / audio formats [2021-09-15T05:45:23Z] and it's a great cli video editor [2021-09-15T05:45:42Z] actually I think it's the only cli video editor [2021-09-15T05:45:59Z] once I had to edit some simple videos having only an android phone [2021-09-15T05:46:10Z] I actually had to use ffmpeg on termux lol [2021-09-15T05:50:50Z] Is there anything actually useful on gemini? [2021-09-15T05:51:08Z] it seems most of the capsules are either blogs or personal websites [2021-09-15T05:52:02Z] not yet I think [2021-09-15T05:52:27Z] there are some http proxies though [2021-09-15T05:52:47Z] so I guess that *technically* you could live with only a gemini browser? [2021-09-15T05:52:55Z] so basically invidious but for the pozzed web [2021-09-15T05:53:05Z] yeah, pretty much [2021-09-15T05:53:43Z] and there are some mirrors of some stuff (such as the old k1ss website). I wonder if there's a wikipedia mirror [2021-09-15T05:53:58Z] would be great if there were some kind forums or something [2021-09-15T05:54:06Z] don't know if that would be too complicated for gemini [2021-09-15T05:54:20Z] yeah I was thinking the same thing [2021-09-15T05:54:32Z] IIRC there are some sort of chat rooms that exploit the prompt feature or something like that [2021-09-15T05:54:39Z] probably a mailing list would be easier [2021-09-15T05:54:56Z] Just use irc as forum [2021-09-15T05:55:37Z] as long as it's logged [2021-09-15T05:55:46Z] well, the point of forums is to have different discussions around the same topic at different times [2021-09-15T05:55:52Z] ^ [2021-09-15T05:55:56Z] sorta like a mailing list [2021-09-15T05:56:07Z] gemini supports POST right? [2021-09-15T05:56:14Z] or something like POST [2021-09-15T05:56:16Z] yeah I guess so [2021-09-15T05:56:19Z] there is a text prompt [2021-09-15T05:56:28Z] GUS exists so surely, yeah [2021-09-15T05:58:48Z] guess that's an interesting project idea [2021-09-15T05:58:51Z] forum for gemini [2021-09-15T05:59:41Z] I wonder if it's already been done [2021-09-15T06:00:40Z] I wouldn't be surprised if on some obscure and unkown corner of the internet there was some forum talking about mashed potatoes on gemini [2021-09-15T06:00:55Z] s/was/were/ [2021-09-15T06:00:56Z] I wouldn't be surprised if on some obscure and unkown corner of the internet there were some forum talking about mashed potatoes on gemini [2021-09-15T06:01:05Z] that doesn't seem germane to the interprise tbh xD [2021-09-15T06:01:23Z] I'm moreso imagining a bunch of *cough cough* enthusiasts screaming at clouds [2021-09-15T06:08:51Z] I asked that before but didn't get an answer: dilyn, why is kisscommunity.org not stylized like kisslinux.org? [2021-09-15T06:09:35Z] f [2021-09-15T06:09:41Z] sorry, wrong window [2021-09-15T06:11:09Z] because that's not the design choice jedahan went with [2021-09-15T06:11:23Z] they have total control over design and direction :) [2021-09-15T06:11:29Z] I see [2021-09-15T06:11:56Z] we still need to change the org icon... [2021-09-15T06:12:18Z] do you have any ideas on that? [2021-09-15T06:12:33Z] i liked jedahan's lipstick emoji idea [2021-09-15T06:12:51Z] oh it'd be nice [2021-09-15T06:13:01Z] also like, symbolically [2021-09-15T06:13:15Z] it would be the layer on top of kiss which makes it nicer [2021-09-15T06:13:56Z] exactly why i liked it : D [2021-09-15T06:14:01Z] s/: D/:D/ [2021-09-15T06:14:01Z] exactly why i liked it :D [2021-09-15T06:14:08Z] nice :D [2021-09-15T06:14:08Z] interestingly enough the official kiss linux website doesn't render correctly in netsurf but kisscommunity.org does [2021-09-15T06:14:18Z] that's weird [2021-09-15T06:14:21Z] yeah [2021-09-15T06:14:24Z] the spacing is off [2021-09-15T06:14:34Z] ooooh that issue? [2021-09-15T06:14:43Z] does netsurf support monospaced fonts? [2021-09-15T06:14:54Z] uh [2021-09-15T06:14:56Z] kisslinux.org needs that to work, as it's basically a glorified text file [2021-09-15T06:14:57Z] idk [2021-09-15T06:15:19Z]