[2023-03-02T01:31:58Z] <shokara_> can files installed from a package be listed with kiss? (something like pkg_info -L or pacman -Ql)
[2023-03-02T01:34:06Z] <shokara_> if not, I guess I'll try adding something like crux's footprint files
[2023-03-02T01:34:16Z] <midfavila> kiss manifest
[2023-03-02T01:34:35Z] <shokara_> :O
[2023-03-02T01:35:22Z] <shokara_> I didn't know that the kiss-* files other than kiss-new existed, thanks
[2023-03-02T01:35:28Z] <midfavila> ye
[2023-03-02T01:35:45Z] <shokara_> exactly what I wanted, thanks
[2023-03-02T01:36:09Z] <midfavila> yw shokie uwu
[2023-03-02T01:36:47Z] <shokara_> I finally got a usable kiss system after days of fighting with very sluggish ext4 speeds
[2023-03-02T01:37:40Z] <shokara_> much preferring this to crux
[2023-03-02T03:03:50Z] <niceguy5000[m]> Kiss linux just works.
[2023-03-02T03:16:04Z] <sewn> Hi
[2023-03-02T03:44:26Z] <niceguy5000[m]> wael: HIIIII
[2023-03-02T04:15:59Z] <testuser[m]123> Hi
[2023-03-02T07:38:06Z] <aelspire> Hi
[2023-03-02T07:38:08Z] <aelspire> https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/repo/issues/130 is back
[2023-03-02T07:38:28Z] <sewn> i just had to remove all pip packages and it werks
[2023-03-02T07:38:44Z] <aelspire> this time removing upper version limit doesn't work
[2023-03-02T08:29:58Z] <testuser[m]123> because the version changed
[2023-03-02T08:30:00Z] <testuser[m]123> lol
[2023-03-02T08:30:06Z] <aelspire> nope
[2023-03-02T08:30:12Z] <testuser[m]123> in the ff tarball
[2023-03-02T08:30:18Z] <aelspire> not that easy
[2023-03-02T08:30:19Z] <aelspire> nope
[2023-03-02T08:30:25Z] <aelspire> trash-cli requires typing
[2023-03-02T08:30:34Z] <aelspire> typing is build-in python module
[2023-03-02T08:30:45Z] <aelspire> so it is not installed according to pip-check
[2023-03-02T08:31:00Z] <testuser[m]123> what does that have to do with ff tho
[2023-03-02T08:31:02Z] <aelspire> I'm patching trash-cli to remove typing as dep
[2023-03-02T08:31:21Z] <aelspire> when mach-something variable is set to system
[2023-03-02T08:31:27Z] <aelspire> it runs pip check
[2023-03-02T08:31:36Z] <aelspire> and abort build if it returns some errors
[2023-03-02T08:31:47Z] <aelspire> and pip check indeed return error
[2023-03-02T08:32:11Z] <aelspire> https://github.com/andreafrancia/trash-cli/blob/master/setup.cfg#L30
[2023-03-02T08:32:15Z] <aelspire> this line is problem
[2023-03-02T08:32:27Z] <aelspire> https://github.com/andreafrancia/trash-cli/blob/master/requirements.txt
[2023-03-02T08:32:36Z] <aelspire> there is not typing in requirements.txt
[2023-03-02T08:33:01Z] <aelspire> and this is build-in python module so I assume that it is safe do remove this dep
[2023-03-02T08:33:14Z] <aelspire> https://docs.python.org/3/library/typing.html#module-typing
[2023-03-02T08:35:11Z] <aelspire> I've removed both sed with psutil version (firefox now requres currently packaged version) and this `typing` dep and now firefox is building
[2023-03-02T09:02:02Z] <aelspire> typing should be typing;python_version<'3.5'
[2023-03-02T09:02:20Z] <aelspire> I'll need to report it upstream
[2023-03-02T09:04:05Z] <aelspire> I'll need to dust off my private github
[2023-03-02T09:10:31Z] <aelspire> so wrong dependency of trash-cli breaks firefox build which doesn't depend on trash-cli at all, pretty logic isn't it?
[2023-03-02T09:11:39Z] <aelspire> I love overengineered solutions
[2023-03-02T10:03:41Z] <testuser[m]123> aelspire: that's transitive dependencies for you :P
[2023-03-02T10:03:55Z] <aelspire> yeah
[2023-03-02T10:04:13Z] <aelspire> sandboxed build would be cool
[2023-03-02T10:05:23Z] <aelspire> so I openend my laptop before work today fo rename libinih to inih and spend this morning fixing firefox build
[2023-03-02T10:06:10Z] <testuser[m]123> i hate package renames
[2023-03-02T10:06:11Z] <testuser[m]123> its ok to let them be tbh
[2023-03-02T10:06:23Z] <aelspire> I've thought about it
[2023-03-02T10:06:25Z] <testuser[m]123> otherwise you need to swap alternatives and fix up for those who have it installed
[2023-03-02T10:06:34Z] <aelspire> currently no package in community depends on libinih
[2023-03-02T10:06:51Z] <aelspire> and this package is not named libinih in other places
[2023-03-02T10:06:56Z] <aelspire> it is inih
[2023-03-02T10:08:25Z] <aelspire> is it possible to contribute to codeberg's repos via send-patch?
[2023-03-02T10:26:19Z] <testuser[m]123> aelspire: if nothing else needs it then ok
[2023-03-02T10:26:24Z] <testuser[m]123> then it should probably be dropped
[2023-03-02T10:26:25Z] <testuser[m]123> since its a lib
[2023-03-02T10:26:42Z] <aelspire> you think so?
[2023-03-02T10:27:06Z] <aelspire> I adopted it as I have it as dep of my package in my repo
[2023-03-02T10:27:17Z] <sewn> if its in community some other package must have been dependent on it, but no package needs it
[2023-03-02T10:27:34Z] <aelspire> and thought that if I'm going to maintain it I can do it in community repo for other people to use it too
[2023-03-02T10:27:56Z] <aelspire> wasn't it about sharing some packages in community?
[2023-03-02T10:28:02Z] <sewn> true
[2023-03-02T10:28:42Z] <sewn> according to arch's packages, libinih is a dependency of imv, yuzu, and gamemode
[2023-03-02T10:28:48Z] <sewn> i believe imv was once in community but got dropped
[2023-03-02T10:29:37Z] <aelspire> and f
[2023-03-02T10:29:39Z] <aelspire> https://git.aelspire.info/kiss-repositories.git/tree/extra/xdg-desktop-portal-wlr/depends#n4
[2023-03-02T10:30:23Z] <aelspire> I was going to ask which packages from my repo we want in community
[2023-03-02T10:35:18Z] <sewn> I'm not sure why the Wayland desktop portal stuff is not in community
[2023-03-02T10:35:25Z] <sewn> cuz most Wayland users probably would want those
[2023-03-02T10:35:36Z] <aelspire> dbus
[2023-03-02T10:35:47Z] <sewn> are they not there cuz it needs dbus?
[2023-03-02T10:35:49Z] <testuser[m]123> ye
[2023-03-02T10:35:49Z] <testuser[m]123> its in my repo
[2023-03-02T10:35:52Z] <sewn> bruh
[2023-03-02T10:36:10Z] <testuser[m]123> eg dbus-wrap firefox if i want screensharing
[2023-03-02T10:36:11Z] <testuser[m]123> i use a dbus wrap script to just launch dbus unprivilieged and run the program under a namespace
[2023-03-02T10:36:17Z] <sewn> why don't you guys make a separate kiss repo for the portals
[2023-03-02T10:36:17Z] <testuser[m]123> then dbus is kil when i close ff
[2023-03-02T10:36:19Z] <aelspire> is it time for  community/dbus?
[2023-03-02T10:36:28Z] <sewn> no dylanaraps will kill us
[2023-03-02T10:36:39Z] <aelspire> i use dbus for opening links from sfeed
[2023-03-02T10:36:45Z] <aelspire> in firefox…
[2023-03-02T10:36:51Z] <testuser[m]123> ye it'd be useful
[2023-03-02T10:36:51Z] <sewn> he will crawl out of his grave
[2023-03-02T10:36:52Z] <testuser[m]123> for bnluez
[2023-03-02T10:36:52Z] <testuser[m]123> it can exist outside community
[2023-03-02T10:37:03Z] <sewn> kiss-bloat
[2023-03-02T10:37:04Z] <sewn> plz
[2023-03-02T10:37:56Z] <sewn> testuser[m]123: you used to maintain a bloat repo under gkisslinux
[2023-03-02T10:38:06Z] <sewn> maybe its time to bring back?!??!
[2023-03-02T10:42:07Z] <aelspire> I think so, if every single of us is gonna maintain their own dbus package…
[2023-03-02T10:42:28Z] <sewn> exactly what we are already doing
[2023-03-02T10:42:32Z] <aelspire> dbus is horrible mess…
[2023-03-02T10:42:58Z] <sewn> we don't have a choice (except xorg cuz no dbus lo)
[2023-03-02T10:43:12Z] <sewn> or bring back libdbus-stub
[2023-03-02T10:43:42Z] <aelspire> but there is actual functionality in some apps that actually requires dbus to work
[2023-03-02T10:43:50Z] <aelspire> there are*
[2023-03-02T10:44:27Z] <aelspire> using libdbus-stub will make no sense when you can just disable dbus in build
[2023-03-02T10:44:49Z] <sewn> dbus for the portals i mean
[2023-03-02T10:44:53Z] <aelspire> this will unblock portals, bluetooth etc.
[2023-03-02T10:44:57Z] <sewn> why the hell would they need dbus anyway though
[2023-03-02T10:45:02Z] <aelspire> no idea
[2023-03-02T10:45:07Z] <sewn> for app and wayland compositor to communicate?
[2023-03-02T10:45:16Z] <aelspire> no
[2023-03-02T10:45:25Z] <aelspire> wayland uses just socket and shm
[2023-03-02T10:45:36Z] <sewn> then why would portal need dbus lol
[2023-03-02T10:45:42Z] <aelspire> I think they are using it to access filesystem
[2023-03-02T10:46:06Z] <aelspire> and for negotiating screensharing
[2023-03-02T10:46:29Z] <aelspire> without allowing sandboxed app to access everything
[2023-03-02T10:48:47Z] <sewn> seems to depend on basu as well, which is from systemd
[2023-03-02T10:48:59Z] <sewn> well, extracted to be more specific
[2023-03-02T10:48:59Z] <aelspire> nope
[2023-03-02T10:49:14Z] <aelspire> basu is stub for some systemd libs AFAIK
[2023-03-02T10:49:26Z] <sewn> noted
[2023-03-02T10:49:37Z] <aelspire> https://git.sr.ht/~emersion/basu
[2023-03-02T10:49:48Z] <aelspire> or maybe not
[2023-03-02T10:49:59Z] <sewn> un-noted
[2023-03-02T10:50:04Z] <aelspire> you are right it's written that it is extracted
[2023-03-02T10:50:39Z] <aelspire> systemd is cult behaving as virus
[2023-03-02T10:50:46Z] <sewn> thank red hat
[2023-03-02T10:50:55Z] <aelspire> it is only OSS project I allow myself to fully hate
[2023-03-02T10:51:05Z] <aelspire> not even GNOME is on this list
[2023-03-02T18:58:56Z] <sewn> midfavila: 
[2023-03-02T18:58:57Z] * sewn uploaded an image: (653KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/envs.net/57319c4e21783a4ee93131c931b34211fa0951dd/1677687763210664(1).png >
[2023-03-02T20:24:17Z] <midfavila> ah yes, fastestcode anon
[2023-03-02T20:24:28Z] <midfavila> i do use emwm from time to time, and ximaging, as well
[2023-03-02T20:26:20Z] <midfavila> also, reference get for my resume :D
[2023-03-02T20:26:35Z] <midfavila> CEO of a computer security company 
[2023-03-02T20:27:13Z] <midfavila> "hi yes this is mister techbro of company suchandsuch, mid isn't completely retarded, please give him a job so people will stop calling me"
[2023-03-02T20:28:02Z] <midfavila> having a CEO with a PhD being willing to vouch for me has to count for something
[2023-03-02T21:06:40Z] <rohan> hey guys
[2023-03-02T21:06:53Z] <rohan> is flatpak working 100% in kiss?
[2023-03-02T21:07:17Z] <rohan> i think in go back to kiss but sometimes i need steam and arduino IDE for college work
[2023-03-02T21:07:28Z] <rohan> steam just for fun
[2023-03-02T21:07:31Z] <rohan> play some games
[2023-03-02T21:08:21Z] <midfavila> >arduino for college
[2023-03-02T21:08:22Z] <midfavila> use emacs smdh
[2023-03-02T21:13:53Z] <rohan> bro
[2023-03-02T21:14:05Z] <rohan> i will need to program in pure C for avr
[2023-03-02T21:14:14Z] <midfavila> ez
[2023-03-02T21:14:36Z] <rohan> with arduino IDE i dont 
[2023-03-02T21:15:10Z] <rohan> is complitace things for such simple work
[2023-03-02T21:15:20Z] <rohan> but maybe i can handle it
[2023-03-02T21:15:29Z] <rohan> but steam is other situation
[2023-03-02T23:03:30Z] <Torr> Ahoy
[2023-03-02T23:12:36Z] <midfavila> hullo
[2023-03-02T23:14:04Z] <Torr> midfavila: How u doing?
[2023-03-02T23:17:43Z] <midfavila> well
[2023-03-02T23:17:51Z] <midfavila> aside from barely being able to walk i guess i'm alive
[2023-03-02T23:17:54Z] <midfavila> so that's a thing 
[2023-03-02T23:22:46Z] <Torr> Ouch
[2023-03-02T23:22:57Z] <Torr> What happened?
[2023-03-02T23:24:24Z] <midfavila> chronic ingrown toenails :D
[2023-03-02T23:24:37Z] <midfavila> quite possibly one of the worst "mundane" conditions to have
[2023-03-02T23:25:24Z] <Torr> Yeah, those are painful.
[2023-03-02T23:25:38Z] <midfavila> i love coming home from work and having a toe that's turned purple
[2023-03-02T23:25:40Z] <midfavila> it's *great*
[2023-03-02T23:25:52Z] <midfavila> getting surgery for it soon:tm:
[2023-03-02T23:26:03Z] <Torr> Isn't there a procedure to cure it?