[2023-12-12T00:16:04Z] <base64> shit feels deader than stali. hows dylan doing anyway
[2023-12-12T05:48:28Z] <sad_plan> hi
[2023-12-12T06:03:51Z] <sewn> hi
[2023-12-12T06:04:03Z] <sewn> base64: we dont know much about dylan other than he is alive
[2023-12-12T06:04:14Z] <sewn> stali is more dead since theres no community keeping it alive somewhere else
[2023-12-12T06:11:17Z] <sad_plan> stali has been dead in the water for years. but theres no reason noone cant resurect it. its a pretty simple system tbh
[2023-12-12T06:21:11Z] <sewn> it uses a really bad format for everything
[2023-12-12T06:21:22Z] <sewn> unlike oasis, which uses lua to samurai
[2023-12-12T06:21:45Z] <sad_plan> sure, but its still simple. its just makefiles really. so it should be easy to update
[2023-12-12T06:22:18Z] <sad_plan> but yes, I would agree that oasis' buildsystem is by far superior
[2023-12-12T07:04:37Z] <sewn> yeah
[2023-12-12T17:12:39Z] <sewn> is there a convention on how packages should be named?
[2023-12-12T21:35:49Z] <sad_plan> hi
[2023-12-12T21:42:11Z] <sewn> hi
[2023-12-12T21:57:07Z] <sad_plan> hi sewn 
[2023-12-12T21:57:55Z] <sad_plan> and yes, there is a convention of how packages should be named. if a package uses git+url, then it should be pkg-git. iirc thats as far as it goes
[2023-12-12T23:10:04Z] <midfavila> that's as far as regular kiss goes afaik, yeah
[2023-12-12T23:10:13Z] <midfavila> as for kiss being "dead", it's a community thing
[2023-12-12T23:10:28Z] <midfavila> considering there's a whole pile of people who regularly chat in here and who help maintain the system, i wouldn't exactly call that dead
[2023-12-12T23:13:08Z] <midfavila> man
[2023-12-12T23:13:16Z] <midfavila> i just realized i haven't done any serious programming in like a year
[2023-12-12T23:13:25Z] <midfavila> i should like
[2023-12-12T23:13:25Z] <midfavila> get back on that
[2023-12-12T23:15:10Z] <sad_plan> only thing dead about kiss is upstream really because of dylan taking a break
[2023-12-12T23:15:19Z] <sad_plan> and yes, you should get back in programming :D
[2023-12-12T23:15:33Z] <midfavila> i still want to work on Xaw stuff
[2023-12-12T23:15:44Z] <sad_plan> then go work it on
[2023-12-12T23:16:03Z] <midfavila> nah, can't
[2023-12-12T23:16:05Z] <midfavila> i work in a few
[2023-12-12T23:16:10Z] <midfavila> i have to get ready for that
[2023-12-12T23:16:13Z] <midfavila> besides, i need to like
[2023-12-12T23:16:15Z] <midfavila> get into the zone
[2023-12-12T23:16:16Z] <sad_plan> ok, but when youre done working?
[2023-12-12T23:16:20Z] <sad_plan> ah
[2023-12-12T23:16:26Z] <midfavila> when i'm done working i plan to do a little tinkering
[2023-12-12T23:16:47Z] <midfavila> i'm also still looking for a better job xwx
[2023-12-12T23:17:12Z] <midfavila> the union thing may or mayn't happen at work, and if it does, great, if not, definitely need a better job. might have something remote as a typist soon tho which would be sweet
[2023-12-12T23:17:50Z] <sad_plan> I see
[2023-12-12T23:18:09Z] <midfavila> yeah that's my excuse
[2023-12-12T23:18:13Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2023-12-12T23:19:47Z] <midfavila> i remember being really close to finishing apport too
[2023-12-12T23:20:00Z] <midfavila> i think the last thing on the list i had to do was get redirection working properly?
[2023-12-12T23:21:18Z] <sad_plan> yeah, I think you were getting there
[2023-12-12T23:21:33Z] <midfavila> 100% was
[2023-12-12T23:21:58Z] <midfavila> i'll probably rewrite apport to use non-blocking network routines
[2023-12-12T23:22:07Z] <midfavila> that was part of what was hanging me up on XIRC
[2023-12-12T23:22:48Z] <sad_plan> yeah I recall you taling about a rewrite
[2023-12-12T23:24:45Z] <midfavila> there's still a lot of stuff i want to work on
[2023-12-12T23:24:51Z] <midfavila> the past year has just been absolutely insane
[2023-12-12T23:25:09Z] <midfavila> i should probably write another blog entry soon actually
[2023-12-12T23:25:11Z] <midfavila> :thinking:
[2023-12-12T23:44:20Z] <sad_plan> I can relate. theres some things I should be working on aswell, but I can never seem to stop procastrinating