[2023-10-25T02:12:54Z] <ehawkvu> midfavila: fair
[2023-10-25T04:44:33Z] <ehawkvu> Also, minor announcement: kiss.el should have rough feature parity with kiss
[2023-10-25T04:44:44Z] <ehawkvu> (only thing really left to do is implement hooks)
[2023-10-25T04:45:27Z] <ehawkvu> Here's the link for anyone reading the logs: https://github.com/ehawkvu/kiss.el
[2023-10-25T05:04:56Z] <midfavila> hmm
[2023-10-25T05:06:28Z] <midfavila> gah i wish i had more time to dedicate to practicing programming
[2023-10-25T05:06:40Z] <midfavila> i'm really hoping that when my store unionizes i'll be able to get a four day work week
[2023-10-25T05:11:43Z] <midfavila> i still wanna finish my xaw notepad clone...
[2023-10-25T05:11:57Z] <midfavila> and xirc and stuff
[2023-10-25T05:53:58Z] <illiliti> agree with midfavila that it should be a separate package. see firefox and firefox-privacy, for example
[2023-10-25T05:55:08Z] <illiliti> also nice work. reminds me of cem's systemE for some reason :)
[2023-10-25T08:02:25Z] <ehawkvu> illiliti: sounds good, and Thank you! :)
[2023-10-25T11:08:26Z] <sewn> Where's my bliss
[2023-10-25T12:14:21Z] <sewn> should I give kiss another try? I think I've used alpine for too long
[2023-10-25T13:40:34Z] <sad_plan> hi
[2023-10-25T14:10:48Z] <phoebos> ehawkvu: wow, nice!
[2023-10-25T14:11:43Z] <phoebos> how do I run it? emacs -l kiss.el then M-x kiss or something?
[2023-10-25T14:11:58Z] <phoebos> also, the emacs build fails if libexecinfo is installed. temacs segfaults
[2023-10-25T14:12:48Z] <phoebos> sewn: if I had more time I would work on bliss
[2023-10-25T14:13:21Z] <phoebos> although the temptation to ditch Lua for Tcl is high
[2023-10-25T14:15:58Z] <sad_plan> mate, write it in rc instead :D
[2023-10-25T15:17:40Z] <sewn> sad_plan: cmoooon
[2023-10-25T15:25:21Z] <sad_plan> yeah, ive been thinking about it for some time now. wouldve been really awesome. Ive also messed with having the buildscripts in rc, but ive actually encountered some issues
[2023-10-25T15:31:50Z] <sewn> plz
[2023-10-25T15:33:21Z] <sad_plan> ill look into it. atm im looking into building st with samurai instead of make. 
[2023-10-25T15:34:38Z] <sewn> PLZZZZZ
[2023-10-25T15:34:53Z] <sewn> sad_plan: what's wrong with make file for such a simple program
[2023-10-25T15:35:04Z] <sad_plan> yes pls both thank you very much
[2023-10-25T15:35:09Z] <sad_plan> samurai is faster
[2023-10-25T15:35:10Z] <sewn> maybe samurai for busybox
[2023-10-25T15:35:21Z] <sewn> or a project that needs it
[2023-10-25T15:35:41Z] <sad_plan> sure. not that I use busybox, but im sure someone can write something for it
[2023-10-25T15:35:52Z] <sewn> You still use sbase?
[2023-10-25T15:38:19Z] <sewn> also I was saying plz as in 'please do not' :p
[2023-10-25T15:42:41Z] <sad_plan> I do
[2023-10-25T15:42:52Z] <sad_plan> why not? samurai is pretty decent if you ask me
[2023-10-25T15:43:35Z] <phoebos> sad_plan: do you know what fraction of the build time is taken up by make or samu?
[2023-10-25T15:44:08Z] <sad_plan> not alot :p
[2023-10-25T15:44:39Z] <sad_plan> it was mostly for fun, but I did test building samurai with make, then samurai, and it did take less time
[2023-10-25T15:44:54Z] <sad_plan> I only tested it once though, so my results might be somewhat scewed
[2023-10-25T15:45:32Z] <phoebos> fair enough
[2023-10-25T15:52:50Z] <sad_plan> it seems with ccache, its nothing, samurai actually seemed 0.01 slower. without ccache, it was somewhat faster. have a look
[2023-10-25T15:53:05Z] <sad_plan> http://0x0.st/HyrS.txt
[2023-10-25T15:57:41Z] <sad_plan> in the grand scheme of things, using samurai probably wont revoutionize my buildtimes :p
[2023-10-25T21:32:50Z] <ehawkvu> phoebos: You should be able to use it by just loading up kiss.el
[2023-10-25T21:34:35Z] <ehawkvu> You might get an error about failing to load 'subp'
[2023-10-25T21:35:08Z] <ehawkvu> It's a *much* nicer subprocess lib (that I may move to if it gets into
[2023-10-25T21:35:12Z] <ehawkvu> melpa*
[2023-10-25T21:36:37Z] <ehawkvu> but yeah, once you load up the file you'll have access to all the functions ive written
[2023-10-25T21:37:33Z] <ehawkvu> Also thank you for reporting that bug w/ libexecinfo
[2023-10-25T21:55:04Z] <Guest12> hey if im installing kiss on a live usb like arch, could i use the live iso's kernel on my kiss build