[2024-01-03T01:01:36Z] <riteo> actually I recently setup flatpak on my machine and I somehow stumbled on every single edge case working with portals
[2024-01-03T01:01:43Z] <riteo> (yes I gave up and setup dbus too)
[2024-01-03T01:03:06Z] <riteo> I still really want to give my own spin at KISS but I would first have to properly learn C and make a "vanilla" pkg manager in it for practice
[2024-01-03T01:03:54Z] <riteo> there are some improvements which have already a lot of common consent afaict and so I could begin with those I suppose
[2024-01-03T01:05:02Z] <riteo> I'm not giving up and switching to alpine yet
[2024-01-03T07:30:02Z] <icebarf> Hello There! I'm on IRC finally.
[2024-01-03T07:30:43Z] <riteo> icebarf: hiii!
[2024-01-03T07:30:53Z] <icebarf> hi riteo
[2024-01-03T07:30:55Z] <riteo> welcome to the cool kids club 8)
[2024-01-03T07:31:04Z] <icebarf> Lmao thanks.
[2024-01-03T07:31:23Z] <icebarf> I was still stuck on the matrix channel for months. Finally decided to use something proper.
[2024-01-03T07:31:34Z] <icebarf> Proper for IRC that is.
[2024-01-03T07:31:48Z] <icebarf> is testuser here?
[2024-01-03T07:31:57Z] <riteo> IRC got its pains. It took me a while to find the will/resources to setup a bouncer
[2024-01-03T07:32:09Z] <icebarf> I just user pico.sh's services
[2024-01-03T07:32:15Z] <icebarf> used*
[2024-01-03T07:32:30Z] <icebarf> I have a server but too lazy to setup.
[2024-01-03T07:32:52Z] <riteo> re server: yeah it's a bit of a mess
[2024-01-03T07:33:05Z] <riteo> I used senpai and had to self-sign a certificate as it's only on my local network
[2024-01-03T07:33:33Z] <icebarf> I see.
[2024-01-03T07:33:59Z] <icebarf> I love how you can use pretty much everything in a browser these days.
[2024-01-03T07:34:12Z] <icebarf> In the olden days, it used to be emacs only who could do that ;)
[2024-01-03T07:34:54Z] <icebarf> ... to be emacs only, which could do that*
[2024-01-03T07:37:14Z] <riteo> web browsers are a bit of a mess on their own
[2024-01-03T07:37:39Z] <riteo> they're their own very convoluted runtime with a lot of complexity and weird stuff going around
[2024-01-03T07:38:07Z] <riteo> I recently switched from the web client of Telegram (which I need for various reasons) to the flatpak official one and my power consumption went down a lot while chatting
[2024-01-03T07:39:45Z] <icebarf> I dont use telegram on desktop so I have no idea about that. But Telegram is OSS so atleast you dont have to worry about tracking and other privacy intrsuve things with other platforms, i.e, discord.
[2024-01-03T07:40:17Z] <icebarf> I use cinny for matrix, and now gamja hosted by pico for IRC. That's about it.
[2024-01-03T07:40:40Z] <riteo> fair, fair
[2024-01-03T07:41:41Z] <icebarf> btw, does simply mentioning someone's username in chat notify them? I'm assuming matrix got this behavior from IRC but I'm not sure
[2024-01-03T07:41:42Z] <icebarf> icebarf
[2024-01-03T07:41:46Z] <icebarf> icebarf
[2024-01-03T07:41:49Z] <icebarf> @icebarf
[2024-01-03T07:42:01Z] <icebarf> ig self ping wouldn't notify even if i quickly switch away
[2024-01-03T07:42:06Z] <riteo> mh a common syntax is appending the username and a colon or a comma after it
[2024-01-03T07:42:25Z] <icebarf> ye
[2024-01-03T07:42:26Z] <riteo> but from what I can tell, at least on senpai, it notifies me of everytime someboy writes my handle
[2024-01-03T07:42:39Z] <icebarf> riteo: do you get notification or some highlight?
[2024-01-03T07:42:47Z] <riteo> it highlights the message
[2024-01-03T07:42:50Z] <icebarf> when you mentioned my name, gamja highlighted your name
[2024-01-03T07:42:55Z] <icebarf> not message 
[2024-01-03T07:43:01Z] <riteo> re name highlight: same
[2024-01-03T07:43:07Z] <riteo> but like, mention me in 5 seconds or so
[2024-01-03T07:43:16Z] <icebarf> aight, hi riteo.
[2024-01-03T07:43:27Z] <riteo> yup, got a "1" next to the channel name
[2024-01-03T07:43:32Z] <icebarf> mhm
[2024-01-03T07:43:40Z] <icebarf> could you do the same for me as well>
[2024-01-03T07:43:45Z] <riteo> yup
[2024-01-03T07:43:49Z] <riteo> tactical nuke incoming!
[2024-01-03T07:43:54Z] <riteo> icebarf
[2024-01-03T07:44:02Z] <icebarf> do another
[2024-01-03T07:44:09Z] <riteo> aight
[2024-01-03T07:44:15Z] <riteo> icebarf test 123
[2024-01-03T07:44:22Z] <icebarf> thanks!!
[2024-01-03T07:44:30Z] <riteo> nw :)
[2024-01-03T07:44:35Z] <icebarf> so i get a proper notification that leads me to the proper channel
[2024-01-03T07:44:49Z] <riteo> looks like this is the convention
[2024-01-03T07:44:53Z] <icebarf> and if i dont click the channel, it just changes the color of the channel's name in the channel list
[2024-01-03T07:45:08Z] <icebarf> > and if i dont click the channel
[2024-01-03T07:45:12Z] <riteo> oh, interesting
[2024-01-03T07:45:16Z] <icebarf> fuck, i meant to do the correction
[2024-01-03T07:45:17Z] <icebarf> so bad
[2024-01-03T07:45:24Z] <riteo> oh yeah on IRC you can't really correct
[2024-01-03T07:45:39Z] <riteo> like, a common syntax we had also working once was simple sed commands
[2024-01-03T07:45:45Z] <riteo> like, if I wre to do this:
[2024-01-03T07:45:50Z] <riteo> s/wre/were/
[2024-01-03T07:45:57Z] <riteo> a bot would echo a fixed message
[2024-01-03T07:46:08Z] <icebarf> mhm yeah thats a bit nicer indeed
[2024-01-03T07:46:24Z] <riteo> but because we're geeks and stuff like that
[2024-01-03T07:46:46Z] <riteo> even just an asterisk or whatever will bring the point across, although I suppose that smarter clients would apply that automatically
[2024-01-03T07:46:59Z] <riteo> I _think_ that's a thing, but I'm not sure
[2024-01-03T07:50:02Z] <icebarf> hi disapper3nce
[2024-01-03T07:50:23Z] <icebarf> yeah i see what you mean @riteo
[2024-01-03T11:48:45Z] <sewn> hi icebarf
[2024-01-03T11:49:05Z] <sewn> is this iceman
[2024-01-03T11:56:01Z] <icebarf> yes
[2024-01-03T11:56:03Z] <icebarf> it is I
[2024-01-03T11:56:22Z] <icebarf> sewn: I think your messages are repeating
[2024-01-03T11:56:42Z] <icebarf> how you been?
[2024-01-03T11:58:25Z] <sewn> I been sewning
[2024-01-03T11:58:35Z] <sewn> icebarf: show evidence
[2024-01-03T11:59:12Z] <icebarf> I'll post a gpg key on this channel from this account, and post a gpg key from that account on matrix as well
[2024-01-03T11:59:16Z] <icebarf> is that enough
[2024-01-03T12:00:04Z] <icebarf> I'll do that in a bit. It is my daily grass touching time now.
[2024-01-03T12:00:16Z] <sewn> mine ended a few mins ago, enjoy yours 
[2024-01-03T12:34:02Z] <disapper3nce>  /set theme dogshit 
[2024-01-03T13:14:25Z] <sewn> disapper3nce: what irc client u be using
[2024-01-03T14:03:45Z] <icebarf> sewn: Thanks. I had fun. 
[2024-01-03T14:07:01Z] <icebarf> sewn: whatchu using lmao
[2024-01-03T14:10:33Z] <sewn> trying to get testuser on IRC
[2024-01-03T14:22:36Z] <testuser[m]> sewn was here
[2024-01-03T14:28:15Z] <testuser[m]> hi
[2024-01-03T14:28:30Z] <sewn> hi testuser[m] welcome back
[2024-01-03T14:29:04Z] <sewn> next we need ioraff
[2024-01-03T14:30:43Z] <testuser[m]> soon
[2024-01-03T14:31:36Z] <sewn> testuser[m] is ioraff confirmed
[2024-01-03T14:31:55Z] <testuser[m]> icebarf: 
[2024-01-03T14:31:58Z] <testuser[m]> hi
[2024-01-03T14:32:26Z] <icebarf> testuser[m] why still using that matrix suffic
[2024-01-03T14:32:35Z] <icebarf> i also have iceman[m] but that so annoying
[2024-01-03T14:34:24Z] <sewn> i told you testuser 
[2024-01-03T14:34:26Z] <sewn> use ~testuser
[2024-01-03T14:41:44Z] <testuser[m]> ded chat
[2024-01-03T14:42:05Z] <sewn> ded chat becuz ded distro
[2024-01-03T14:58:43Z] <disapper3nce> sewn: irssi 
[2024-01-03T14:58:47Z] <sewn> lame
[2024-01-03T14:58:54Z] <sewn> hi sad_plan 
[2024-01-03T14:59:04Z] <sad_plan> hi sewn 
[2024-01-03T14:59:15Z] <disapper3nce> what do you use lol
[2024-01-03T15:01:39Z] <sewn> i use senpai
[2024-01-03T15:02:50Z] <disapper3nce> nice
[2024-01-03T15:03:00Z] <disapper3nce> https://github.com/dylanaraps/birch 
[2024-01-03T15:03:21Z] <disapper3nce> birch looks pretty cool, but its unmaintained
[2024-01-03T15:04:39Z] <sad_plan> I used to use birch, and it was alright, but as you said, its unmaintained, as dylan is on a hiatus
[2024-01-03T15:07:43Z] <disapper3nce> nice 
[2024-01-03T15:08:21Z] <sad_plan> it also uses bash, which is less ideal imo
[2024-01-03T15:10:10Z] <sewn> sad_plan: rc rewrite :D
[2024-01-03T15:11:10Z] <sad_plan> yeah, that would be cool, but Im not sure. rc lacks alot of bash's features in this case :p
[2024-01-03T15:11:15Z] <disapper3nce> sewn: rc? The plan9 shell? 
[2024-01-03T15:11:19Z] <sad_plan> yep
[2024-01-03T15:11:25Z] <icebarf> re: ded chat becuz ded distro; msg: roasting the entire community :Skull:
[2024-01-03T15:11:31Z] <icebarf> hi sad_plan
[2024-01-03T15:11:45Z] <sad_plan> hi icebarf 
[2024-01-03T15:11:49Z] <icebarf> sewn: what client are you using
[2024-01-03T15:11:54Z] <sewn> senpai
[2024-01-03T15:11:56Z] <icebarf> sup plan?
[2024-01-03T15:12:05Z] <sewn> i really like senpai
[2024-01-03T15:12:08Z] <sad_plan> sewn: just pure posix sh irc client would cool too though
[2024-01-03T15:12:17Z] <sewn> shouldnt be too hard
[2024-01-03T15:12:18Z] <sad_plan> icebarf: watching the walking dead
[2024-01-03T15:12:25Z] <sad_plan> how about you?
[2024-01-03T15:12:35Z] <icebarf> re: senpai; msg: does IRC support unicode chars? never really tried. Lemme actually do that
[2024-01-03T15:12:49Z] <sewn> someone made a posix sh client, but it depends on netcat mostly
[2024-01-03T15:12:59Z] <sewn> its only 35sloc intersting
[2024-01-03T15:13:05Z] <icebarf> re: how about you? ; msg: I'm doing great as well. Learning Japanese these days.
[2024-01-03T15:13:28Z] <sewn> icebarf: what does 悲しみの夜明け mean
[2024-01-03T15:13:29Z] <sad_plan> do you have a link sewn?
[2024-01-03T15:13:35Z] <sewn> https://github.com/mcpcpc/irc2
[2024-01-03T15:13:38Z] <sewn> its made by someone here lol
[2024-01-03T15:13:56Z] <sad_plan> ah, yeah mcppcpc made xwm and kirc iirc
[2024-01-03T15:14:15Z] <icebarf> sewn: i dont know kanji; i can read the hiragana there "shi mi no" and then at the end "ke"
[2024-01-03T15:14:15Z] <sewn> rirc is also cool but it doesnt support bouncer
[2024-01-03T15:15:28Z] <icebarf> I just gamja hosted by pico.sh
[2024-01-03T15:15:32Z] <sad_plan> icebarf: isnt japanese really hard to learn? seeing as its a completely new alphabet and stuff
[2024-01-03T15:15:33Z] <icebarf> testuser recommended it to me
[2024-01-03T15:15:40Z] <sewn> hey i reccomended it to him too
[2024-01-03T15:15:47Z] <sewn> thats awesome
[2024-01-03T15:15:50Z] <sewn> sad_plan: now its your turn
[2024-01-03T15:16:12Z] <sad_plan> to recommend gamja to testuser? lol
[2024-01-03T15:16:18Z] <sewn> no pico.sh 
[2024-01-03T15:16:20Z] <sewn> and its bouncer
[2024-01-03T15:16:22Z] <sad_plan> oh, yeah
[2024-01-03T15:16:34Z] <sad_plan> if you can tell me if it works with catgirl
[2024-01-03T15:16:37Z] <icebarf> sad_plan: I don't know if it is "really hard". I already know 3 languages and now I'm learning my 4th. It seems okay to me. I just got done with 2 of the kana today.
[2024-01-03T15:16:40Z] <sad_plan> then ill take a look
[2024-01-03T15:16:42Z] <sewn> testuser[m]: does it work with catgirl
[2024-01-03T15:17:10Z] <icebarf> What is catgirl? It's probably not what I'm thinking of.
[2024-01-03T15:17:16Z] <sewn> irc client
[2024-01-03T15:17:17Z] <sad_plan> icebarf: I see. 
[2024-01-03T15:17:23Z] <sewn> author of it reccomends pounce(1) as a bouncer 
[2024-01-03T15:17:27Z] <sad_plan> catgirl is an irc client
[2024-01-03T15:17:37Z] <icebarf> I'm gonna pounce on a catgirl someday.
[2024-01-03T15:17:37Z] <sewn> afaik author also doesn't want to support soju explicitly
[2024-01-03T15:17:41Z] <sewn> sus
[2024-01-03T15:17:42Z] <icebarf> why
[2024-01-03T15:17:53Z] <icebarf> what wrong with it
[2024-01-03T15:18:04Z] <sewn> idk ask 
[2024-01-03T15:18:29Z] <icebarf> sewn: do you use sourcehut
[2024-01-03T15:18:40Z] <sewn> i would if it had username changes
[2024-01-03T15:18:46Z] <sewn> but im using github
[2024-01-03T15:18:47Z] <icebarf> kek
[2024-01-03T15:19:00Z] <icebarf> yeah same, and codeberg. Which i have not used for months
[2024-01-03T15:19:08Z] <icebarf> I installed kiss a few days ago only to get rid of it today
[2024-01-03T15:19:08Z] <sewn> yeah i put stuff on codeberg for no good reason
[2024-01-03T15:19:11Z] <sewn> i need to use one at a time tbh
[2024-01-03T15:19:21Z] <sewn> and codeberg aint it for me, goes down alot and the gitea experience aint all that great
[2024-01-03T15:19:24Z] <sewn> no search in code
[2024-01-03T15:19:38Z] <icebarf> will it wasn't install, it was more of an extracting backup-root.tar.gz and then setting up grub
[2024-01-03T15:20:11Z] <icebarf> I'm thinking of rehosting cgit for me when I'm not being lazy
[2024-01-03T15:21:12Z] <sewn> i was using stagit and it got boring quickly
[2024-01-03T15:21:26Z] <sewn> sourcehut is really good tbh, has all the goodies just no username changes
[2024-01-03T15:21:52Z] <icebarf> yeah
[2024-01-03T15:22:30Z] <icebarf> anyway, I'm gonna get back to learning
[2024-01-03T15:22:35Z] <sewn> bai bai
[2024-01-03T15:25:04Z] <icebarf> sewn: prose.sh looks nice
[2024-01-03T15:25:09Z] <icebarf> atleast their CSS
[2024-01-03T15:25:15Z] <icebarf> wanna steal :#
[2024-01-03T15:25:18Z] <icebarf> :3
[2024-01-03T15:25:19Z] <sewn> lol yep
[2024-01-03T15:25:46Z] <icebarf> i tested it out with some blog post I wrote a year or so ago
[2024-01-03T16:01:19Z] <wololo> testing
[2024-01-03T16:01:25Z] <sad_plan> hm, irc2 is wierd
[2024-01-03T16:05:30Z] <icebarf> sad_plan: the client written by mcpcpc?
[2024-01-03T16:11:40Z] <sad_plan> yep
[2024-01-03T16:11:47Z] <sad_plan> reminded me abit of sic tbh
[2024-01-03T18:15:20Z] <sewn> icebarf: > catgirl doesn't implement cap-3.2, so many capabilities will be disabled. catgirl developers have publicly stated that supporting bouncers such as soju is a non-goal.
[2024-01-03T18:16:34Z] <icebarf> mhm i see
[2024-01-03T18:16:41Z] <icebarf> fucking dogshit internet i have
[2024-01-03T18:16:46Z] <icebarf> kys poop ISP
[2024-01-03T18:23:19Z] <sewn> whats ya ips
[2024-01-03T18:23:53Z] <riteo> poop
[2024-01-03T18:23:57Z] <riteo> poop ISP
[2024-01-03T18:24:22Z] <sewn> https://www.mrdogpoop.com/aboutus.html
[2024-01-03T18:30:32Z] <riteo> wait is this real
[2024-01-03T20:00:50Z] <icebarf> LMFAO