[2023-11-23T05:22:33Z] <sad_plan> hi
[2023-11-23T08:32:59Z] <sewn> hi
[2023-11-23T08:33:03Z] <sad_plan> hi sewn 
[2023-11-23T08:33:12Z] <sewn> nhi sasdjkl[plasm
[2023-11-23T08:39:46Z] <sad_plan> ffs, wasnt there a patch someplace for st, which fixes the issues of text getting chopped if you resize your windowsize?
[2023-11-23T08:40:12Z] <sad_plan> if you shrink the window, and grow it back, the text is all cut of
[2023-11-23T08:42:26Z] <sewn> scrollback reflow :)
[2023-11-23T08:42:50Z] <sewn> now you shall require scrollback
[2023-11-23T08:43:33Z] <sad_plan> well shiieet. I dont need scrollback though :c
[2023-11-23T08:43:41Z] <sad_plan> maybe I can botch it and get what I want regardless
[2023-11-23T08:47:01Z] <sad_plan> meh, nevermind. ill just continue to live without it 
[2023-11-23T08:47:07Z] * sad_plan shrugs
[2023-11-23T08:49:02Z] <sewn> smh lmao
[2023-11-23T10:10:06Z] <sewn> sad_plan: anything new about that libplacebo thing
[2023-11-23T10:10:13Z] <sewn> ioraff living his life updating packages yet again smhsmhsmhshm
[2023-11-23T10:10:18Z] <sewn> plz get in here
[2023-11-23T10:10:35Z] <sad_plan> no, I havent looked into it tbh
[2023-11-23T10:10:44Z] <sad_plan> im messing with other things tbh :p
[2023-11-23T10:18:44Z] <sad_plan> sewn: http://0x0.st/HwSC.diff it does work. buut it should probably be aloot smaller
[2023-11-23T10:19:01Z] <sewn> wat does work
[2023-11-23T10:19:03Z] <sad_plan> i mostly just removed the scrolling functions
[2023-11-23T10:19:09Z] <sad_plan> st reflow, but no scrollback
[2023-11-23T10:19:22Z] <sewn> just patch in scroll back man
[2023-11-23T10:19:28Z] <sad_plan> no
[2023-11-23T10:19:36Z] <sewn> most of the scrollback code is still in ther
[2023-11-23T10:19:46Z] <sewn> sad_plan: y not
[2023-11-23T10:19:53Z] <sewn> it wont kill u 
[2023-11-23T10:20:27Z] <sad_plan> I know, but im reluctant to remove alot of stuff. my knowldege (or lack there of) wont permit me to remove more stuff
[2023-11-23T10:20:31Z] <sad_plan> I know, but I dont need it
[2023-11-23T10:20:51Z] <sad_plan> I tried to remove more stuff, but I ended up with lots of errors I didnt know how to fix
[2023-11-23T10:21:52Z] <sewn> you cooooooooooould use
[2023-11-23T10:21:54Z] <sewn> hmm
[2023-11-23T10:21:58Z] <sewn> a terminal multiplexer
[2023-11-23T10:22:13Z] <sewn> sad_plan: thing is, scrollback allows reflow to work
[2023-11-23T10:22:19Z] <sewn> as it gives it a vertical buffer
[2023-11-23T10:22:25Z] <sewn> reflow just gives the horizonal buffer
[2023-11-23T10:22:46Z] <sewn> you cant remove scrollback from reflow without most of the functionality (if not all) gone
[2023-11-23T10:23:02Z] <sewn> i mean, reflow needs scrollback to work
[2023-11-23T10:23:51Z] <sewn> i did find a standalone reflow patch, but it has scrollback included in it
[2023-11-23T10:23:55Z] <sad_plan> tmux is cool, but its too big. I know theres abduco, but it doesnt work with netbsd-curses
[2023-11-23T10:24:08Z] <sad_plan> I see
[2023-11-23T10:24:17Z] <sewn> a multiplexer gives scrollback 
[2023-11-23T10:24:39Z] <sad_plan> I know. again, not that I need scrollback. but I can see a usecase for a multiplexer
[2023-11-23T10:24:51Z] * sewn implodes
[2023-11-23T10:26:03Z] <sad_plan> oh, it was dvtm I was refering to
[2023-11-23T10:29:51Z] <sad_plan> wait, it does work with netbsd-curses
[2023-11-23T10:29:56Z] <sad_plan> atleast it builds
[2023-11-23T10:32:07Z] <sewn> if it builds it works
[2023-11-23T10:32:11Z] <sad_plan> it seems so
[2023-11-23T10:32:37Z] <sewn> i will ignore the fact that vis stdin is broken due to netbsd-curses
[2023-11-23T10:32:50Z] <sad_plan> is it? :p
[2023-11-23T10:33:18Z] <sewn> :|vis crashes vis
[2023-11-23T10:33:22Z] <sewn> u have to do vis -
[2023-11-23T10:33:58Z] <sad_plan> I see
[2023-11-23T10:34:12Z] <sad_plan> I usually dont pipe to vis, so I havent noticed
[2023-11-23T10:39:29Z] <sad_plan_> mtm is also an option. it was actually the one I was thinking about, but forgot its name
[2023-11-23T10:47:56Z] <sewn> what happened there
[2023-11-23T10:48:21Z] <sad_plan> I have no idea. seems like catgirl lost its connection, and thew me out. so I logged back in
[2023-11-23T10:48:32Z] <sewn> she didnt like u
[2023-11-23T10:48:37Z] <sad_plan> appearantly not
[2023-11-23T10:48:53Z] <sad_plan> I just discovered that tmux is just 1MB statically linked
[2023-11-23T10:49:32Z] <sad_plan> however, compared to mtm which is ~1k loc, tmux is.. a whooping 81k
[2023-11-23T10:49:50Z] <sad_plan> also, dvtm broke for me
[2023-11-23T10:52:27Z] <sewn> why
[2023-11-23T10:53:09Z] <sad_plan> I dunno. I didnt bother to find out why
[2023-11-23T22:48:01Z] <synima> If the suckless peeps hate wayland and xorg so much why dont they make their own protocol?
[2023-11-23T22:48:06Z] <synima> Is that was tinyx is?
[2023-11-23T23:05:18Z] <sewn> synima: no
[2023-11-23T23:05:24Z] <sewn> suckless people are already happy with X
[2023-11-23T23:05:39Z] <synima> Suprising
[2023-11-23T23:05:48Z] <sewn> tinyX is *merely* just a tiny version of the xorg server
[2023-11-23T23:10:58Z] <sewn> just for your knowledge, wayland is a collection of protocols alongside a base server or client library
[2023-11-23T23:11:06Z] <sewn> x on the other hand, well...
[2023-11-23T23:11:49Z] <sewn> its a complete server with stable time tested libraries to build applications using it
[2023-11-23T23:12:00Z] <ilt> those who hate x and wayland use framebuffer, by convention
[2023-11-23T23:12:08Z] <sewn> wayland is (in my experience) hard to develop appliccations for
[2023-11-23T23:12:28Z] <sewn> ilt: or they use arcan
[2023-11-23T23:17:02Z] <ilt> heretics!
[2023-11-23T23:25:59Z] <sewn> whats a heretic
[2023-11-23T23:37:05Z] <ilt> the one who disobeys generally accepted norms/practices/whatever