charliebrownau charliebrownau at protonmail.com
Wed May 19 13:53:10 BST 2021
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GdayMaybe I am jumping the gun and over reacting
Did anyone look at Chris McGee Gemini siteIt links back to schema.orghttps://schema.org/docs/about.htmlhttps://schema.org/
" Founded by Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and Yandex"" Schema.org vocabularies are developed by an open community process,using the public-schemaorg at w3.org mailing list and through GitHub."
Do we really want another open code project and another group subvertedby Corporations, Patents, Royalities and those who are against Free Speech and Freedom ?
I really hope Gemini doesnt go down the same route as Firefox, Linux Foundation, Ansilbeand so many others because they allow anyone into X group to push their adjenda, surbvert itkick out the original team/founders and push Anti free Speech, Anti Merit,etc
It seems the whole open source community has been weaked and subverted to supportCorporationsspeech code restrictionsClosed Source code/drivers/kernalsTelemary, data collecting, spying on users
Most refuse to address that Python and java are crapand so much software is delibery forcing requirements ofpythlon, dotnet, java, gnome, systemd, dbus, pulse,etc into itturning linux into windows centralised depant junkware
Just this week/month we have seen another open code project sold to a corporationsurbverted and ruined - Audacity
Why is open code software allowed to transfer to corporations in the first place ?
I really hope Gemini can stay to the hardcore roots and not become bloated web 2nd edition
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1. [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro gemlogging
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2. Re: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro
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3. Re: Opening of the first modules a new Gemini station
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4. Re: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro
gemlogging (prx)
5. Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages (ew.gemini)
Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 21:00:16 -0400
From: Chris McGee newton688 at gmail.com
To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro gemlogging
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Hello All,
I've been finding that the drive to write lengthy articles, rfcs and
gemlogs has been keeping me from writing anything at all in my gemini
capsule. Drawing inspiration from micro-blogging platforms that I use
regularly I started writing gemthoughts, which are meant to be really
short, simple and approachable so that I will hopefully do this more often.
I've started publishing them here:
gemini://lonelysilo.ca/gemthought
A draft description of the format with some semantics can be found here:
gemini://lonelysilo.ca/rfc/gemthought.gmi
Cheers,
Chris
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Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:14:18 -0700
From: "Nathan Galt" mailinglists at ngalt.com
To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Re: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro
gemlogging
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On Tue, May 18, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Chris McGee wrote:
Hello All,
I've been finding that the drive to write lengthy articles, rfcs and gemlogs has been keeping me from writing anything at all in my gemini capsule. Drawing inspiration from micro-blogging platforms that I use regularly I started writing gemthoughts, which are meant to be really short, simple and approachable so that I will hopefully do this more often.
I've started publishing them here:
gemini://lonelysilo.ca/gemthought
A draft description of the format with some semantics can be found here:
gemini://lonelysilo.ca/rfc/gemthought.gmi
Cheers,
Chris
Looks neat, but what's the difference between short blog posts and gemthoughts? RDF seems to be involved, but I'm not sure what one issupposed to do with things in brackets to make them actual gemthoughts.
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Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 23:39:06 -0400
From: Frank J?des Frank.Juedes at linux4specialists.com
To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Re: Opening of the first modules a new Gemini station
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Hi Friends!
as promised, two new modules have docked at
gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/ ?
1. ? Large Characters
Easily create flashy banner-texts in many different fonts with the
this utility: It reads your text and prints it out in all 290
installed character-sets, ready for you to copy and past into your
own page. ? gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/cgi-bin/figlet
2. ? Text in a Box
Similar to the Large Characters, this utility surrounds your text
with a more or less sophisticated box, drawn with ASCII-characters.
? gemini://h2903872.stratoserver.net/cgi-bin/boxes
More modules are already under construction ? and will dock soon!
Best regards from Charleston (WV),
???? Frank/2
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Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 09:21:27 +0200
From: prx prx at si3t.ch
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Subject: Re: [users] Introducing gemthought, a format for micro
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Hi,
Have you heard about twtxt? It looks l'?le what you try to achieve :
https://github.com/buckket/twtxt
A twtxt file can ne served through http, gopher, FTP, and of course Gemini.
Le 19 mai 2021 03:00:16 GMT+02:00, Chris McGee newton688 at gmail.com a ?crit :
Hello All,
I've been finding that the drive to write lengthy articles, rfcs and
gemlogs has been keeping me from writing anything at all in my gemini
capsule. Drawing inspiration from micro-blogging platforms that I use
regularly I started writing gemthoughts, which are meant to be really
short, simple and approachable so that I will hopefully do this more
often.
I've started publishing them here:
gemini://lonelysilo.ca/gemthought
A draft description of the format with some semantics can be found
here:
gemini://lonelysilo.ca/rfc/gemthought.gmi
Cheers,
Chris
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 09:40:16 +0200
From: "ew.gemini" ew.gemini at nassur.net
To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages
Message-ID: 82eee3tasl.fsf at nassur.net
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Hello almaember,
Almaember almaember at disroot.org writes:
Hello, everybody!
I know that there is no way in Gemini right now to check the integrity
of pages. However, it would be nice for this to possible.
Integrity in the sense of "the file remained unchanged in
transit"? TLS should take care of that. In the sense "the file
is the one that the original author intented it to be"?
There are at least two attempts to deal with this:
If you dare to check my capsule at
=
gemini://ew.srht.site/
There are two links to openbsd-signify and NetSigil.
When I publish a post, my Makefile takes care to create
corresponding sha256 checksums. They are concatenated into one
file, which is then signed using my gpg key. That's one option.
The same information is packaged differently to
.well-known/signature-bundle. This file is created using
openbds-signify.
There are a few threads on the mailing list, too ...
https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005550.html
https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005374.html
https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005331.html
Also see my first post about experimenting with this:
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gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2020/20201217-towards-a-proper-flightlog-4.gmi
There are two parts to this, as I see it.
1.
Create the checksums/signature in some agreed upon format.
Everyone editing a capsule has to do this. While a bit tedious,
it still can be done manually on the shell (unix type
environment assumed).
2.
Upon user request browsers have to check these agreed upon
locations, download the signed file, possibly download the
public key, cache these things properly and then do the
verification. I am not aware that any gemini browsers have
picked this up. But of course, I would be pleased to be proven
wrong :)
snip<>
Hope this helps,
~ew
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