2020-01-29T02:04:56 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> 90% of the time I have no idea what any of you are talking about in here, but I feel strangely smarter just by being here.
2020-01-29T02:05:26 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> It's like a contact high, only the result is inflated feelings of coding skill.
2020-01-29T02:15:57 #kisslinux <E5ten> lol
2020-01-29T02:17:43 #kisslinux <E5ten> mforney: one more thing I've realized, what's a better check I can use for if a build happened than jobslen because after the main loop in build() I putchar('n') if jobslen is non-zero and dumb is zero but for like the clean target, which doesn't do the separate lines, that results in an excess trailing newline
2020-01-29T02:29:41 #kisslinux <E5ten> ah ok I see what's happening, the generated {build,rule}.ninja call ninja -t clean if you use the target clean, and so that extra newline is added for that one target but prints after the output from ninja -t clean, not really sure how to avoid that
2020-01-29T02:30:40 #kisslinux <mforney> have you looked into what ninja does to handle this situation?
2020-01-29T02:42:27 #kisslinux <E5ten> I can't really tell, I'm looking at what situations n is added in line_printer.cc but I don't know C++ and more importantly ninja's source code is super confusing and I can't tell what actually causes those circumstances to be reached
2020-01-29T03:17:18 #kisslinux <E5ten> ok so it's not an extra new line it's that ninja somehow knows to print the new-line after it's status message but before the output from running ninja -t clean but samurai prints the newline after and doesn't have one between the status line and ninja -t clean output
2020-01-29T05:14:57 #kisslinux <monochromal> https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/evgdjj/sowm_last_kiss/
2020-01-29T05:14:59 #kisslinux <monochromal> :D
2020-01-29T07:02:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/releases/tag/1.0.0
2020-01-29T07:02:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> New kiss package manager update
2020-01-29T07:10:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We can now start moving things like sbase/coreutils to install directly to the system
2020-01-29T07:30:03 #kisslinux <merakor> kiss s sinit
2020-01-29T07:30:15 #kisslinux <merakor> > /var/db/kiss/installed/./sinit
2020-01-29T07:30:32 #kisslinux <merakor> There
2020-01-29T07:30:55 #kisslinux <merakor> There is a . between the directory and the package
2020-01-29T07:31:48 #kisslinux <merakor> Is it because of the find changes?
2020-01-29T07:32:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylan
2020-01-29T07:32:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> hey merakor
2020-01-29T07:32:23 #kisslinux <merakor> Hya
2020-01-29T07:32:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> what does dylan mean
2020-01-29T07:32:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> While you're at it, `sbase` should install directly to `/usr/bin/` now. :)
2020-01-29T07:32:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> he said^
2020-01-29T07:33:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> does he mean instead of busybox??!
2020-01-29T07:34:00 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, I had sbase on /usr/local/bin just in case
2020-01-29T07:35:45 #kisslinux <merakor> Which turned out useful as there were problems with kiss' find and sed usage when I installed them
2020-01-29T07:36:02 #kisslinux <konimex> adamantium: the alternatives system has been added
2020-01-29T07:36:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh
2020-01-29T07:36:16 #kisslinux <adamantium> konimex:  what do i need to know
2020-01-29T07:36:29 #kisslinux <merakor> You can install sbase on busybox now
2020-01-29T07:37:00 #kisslinux <merakor> And can replace the busybox coreutils with sbase
2020-01-29T07:37:05 #kisslinux <konimex> make sure to `kiss u` first
2020-01-29T07:37:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> yeah im running latest kiss
2020-01-29T07:37:34 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, also the modify the community package first
2020-01-29T07:37:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> anything else i need to od?
2020-01-29T07:37:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> do
2020-01-29T07:37:47 #kisslinux <konimex> uh, nothing?
2020-01-29T07:37:53 #kisslinux <merakor> > make sbase-box-install
2020-01-29T07:38:18 #kisslinux <merakor> instead of > install -Dm755 sbase-box $1/usr/bin/sbase-box
2020-01-29T07:38:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> konimex: I'm not sure my question was exact enough. I'm trying to ask if there is anything i need to know about alternatives. How do I use it?
2020-01-29T07:39:04 #kisslinux <merakor> So if you want to install alternatives
2020-01-29T07:39:08 #kisslinux <konimex> to use alternatives, just use `kiss a`
2020-01-29T07:39:17 #kisslinux <konimex> two secs
2020-01-29T07:39:18 #kisslinux <merakor> You need to write KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss i package
2020-01-29T07:39:35 #kisslinux <merakor> It warns you that the packages are conflicting otherwise
2020-01-29T07:39:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> merakor: How does this work
2020-01-29T07:40:14 #kisslinux <merakor> when you do install it, if you want to replace, say, busybox ls and sbase ls
2020-01-29T07:40:18 #kisslinux <merakor> you do
2020-01-29T07:40:23 #kisslinux <merakor> > kiss a sbase /usr/bin/ls
2020-01-29T07:41:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> wow
2020-01-29T07:41:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> Okay, and... what does KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss i package do?
2020-01-29T07:41:54 #kisslinux <merakor> If you don't say KISS_CHOICE=1, it doesn't install a conflicting package
2020-01-29T07:41:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> I mean when would i use 'kiss a ' as opposed to your 'KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss i package' example
2020-01-29T07:42:17 #kisslinux <merakor> No you need to do KISS_CHOICE=1 before doing a `kiss a`
2020-01-29T07:42:57 #kisslinux <adamantium> merakor: so 'KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss i sbase' will replace much of busybox automatically
2020-01-29T07:43:05 #kisslinux <merakor> When you add KISS_CHOICE=1, it knows that you are aware of the conflict and registers conflicts to the alternatives system
2020-01-29T07:43:16 #kisslinux <adamantium> and 'KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss a sbase /usr/bin/ls' only replace ls?
2020-01-29T07:43:21 #kisslinux <merakor> No it only adds sbase to the alternatives.
2020-01-29T07:43:39 #kisslinux <merakor> You don't need KISS_CHOICE=1 for `kiss a`. Only for `kiss i`
2020-01-29T07:43:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-01-29T07:44:18 #kisslinux <merakor> If you want to use everything that sbase provides you would do this with exact order
2020-01-29T07:44:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> so how do you replace as much busybox as possible with sbase
2020-01-29T07:44:24 #kisslinux <merakor> KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss i sbase
2020-01-29T07:44:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> do you have to do it one by one?
2020-01-29T07:44:35 #kisslinux <merakor> kiss a | grep ^sbase | kiss a -
2020-01-29T07:44:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> 0.o
2020-01-29T07:44:48 #kisslinux <merakor> kiss a also accepts stdin
2020-01-29T07:45:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> OK
2020-01-29T07:45:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> do we have docs on this yet
2020-01-29T07:45:47 #kisslinux <merakor> Nope but I am writing it at the moment.
2020-01-29T07:45:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> I hope you can do it merakor lol
2020-01-29T07:46:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'm going to need them
2020-01-29T07:46:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> and dylan always writes everything
2020-01-29T07:46:18 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, it is a little complicated to grasp
2020-01-29T07:46:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> thanks
2020-01-29T07:46:38 #kisslinux <merakor> He would probably write it better than me as he wrote the code
2020-01-29T07:46:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> so first need to update community sbase and ubase
2020-01-29T07:47:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> to use git sources + install to usr/bin
2020-01-29T07:47:07 #kisslinux <adamantium> and to install the whole symlink farm
2020-01-29T07:47:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> correct?
2020-01-29T07:47:12 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah
2020-01-29T07:47:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-01-29T07:52:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> merakor: does kiss break if you install sbase to /usr/bin ?
2020-01-29T07:53:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> __all of it__
2020-01-29T08:03:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ola
2020-01-29T08:03:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > /home/goldie/projects/kiss-new/core/./zlib
2020-01-29T08:03:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is due to the find changes
2020-01-29T08:03:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> harmless
2020-01-29T08:04:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS_CHOICE=1 is there for packages > 10 conflicts.
2020-01-29T08:04:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Don't want a user to accidentally add 1000+ files to the alternatives system
2020-01-29T08:04:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'kiss a' lists all available alternatives
2020-01-29T08:04:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The output of 'kiss a' can be used as input to 'kiss a'
2020-01-29T08:05:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Which is why 'kiss a | grep ^sbase | kiss a -' works
2020-01-29T08:05:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> kiss also works with sbase now
2020-01-29T08:05:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I fixed the sed/find non-posix stuff last night
2020-01-29T08:07:47 #kisslinux <konimex> does the conflict include non-/bin conflicts? (e.g. manpage etc.)
2020-01-29T08:08:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-01-29T08:08:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It doesn't work for /bin/ls -> /usr/bin/ls though.
2020-01-29T08:08:17 #kisslinux <konimex> might want to increase the limit to 20
2020-01-29T08:08:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-01-29T08:08:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can be tweaked
2020-01-29T08:08:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: That's just the auto behavior.
2020-01-29T08:09:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's opt-in above the threshold
2020-01-29T08:09:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We can also swap gnugrep etc now if you like adamantium
2020-01-29T08:10:10 #kisslinux <adamantium> crap dang it
2020-01-29T08:10:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Could install as both grep and gnugrep)
2020-01-29T08:10:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: that lats push added accidental [ubase] files
2020-01-29T08:10:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> heh
2020-01-29T08:10:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> i was about to fix it, didn't know you were here
2020-01-29T08:10:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Send another PR
2020-01-29T08:10:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-01-29T08:11:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's my fault
2020-01-29T08:11:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Are the changes fine regardless?
2020-01-29T08:12:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> thery're fine
2020-01-29T08:12:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> i will finish my work on ubase and send a proper ubase pull
2020-01-29T08:12:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> just hang tight.
2020-01-29T08:12:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Sounds good
2020-01-29T08:13:27 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: I have fully switched sbase, everything works like a charm
2020-01-29T08:13:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :
2020-01-29T08:13:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :D
2020-01-29T08:16:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> i am excited about this.
2020-01-29T08:16:37 #kisslinux <merakor> Sorry adamantium, I was away and I didn't see your message.
2020-01-29T08:16:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> no worries
2020-01-29T08:17:11 #kisslinux <merakor> Kiss did break, when I installed sbase, but Dylan has patched the issues before the release
2020-01-29T08:17:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: have to rethink everything now!
2020-01-29T08:17:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> :D
2020-01-29T08:17:29 #kisslinux <merakor> It has no issues now.
2020-01-29T08:17:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> beautiful
2020-01-29T08:18:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I just need to push a minor fix to the rc.boot script
2020-01-29T08:18:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> brb
2020-01-29T08:18:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> merakor: what git commits from forney do i need to make ubase official sources build
2020-01-29T08:18:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> any idea by chance?
2020-01-29T08:19:24 #kisslinux <merakor> If i recall stty was an issue
2020-01-29T08:19:26 #kisslinux <merakor> Let me check
2020-01-29T08:20:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> make DESTDIR="$1" PREFIX=/usr sbase-box-install
2020-01-29T08:21:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> ^^ should be safe s/sbase/ubase/g should be safe too for ubase right?
2020-01-29T08:23:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Please let me know if you come across any bugs :-)
2020-01-29T08:24:06 #kisslinux <merakor> Okay
2020-01-29T08:24:12 #kisslinux <merakor> This is the patch
2020-01-29T08:24:32 #kisslinux <merakor> https://github.com/michaelforney/ubase/commit/f3aa4b156360ce4a18e4a3897f883b663771ba24.patch
2020-01-29T08:24:38 #kisslinux <merakor> This builds
2020-01-29T08:27:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-01-29T08:27:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> okay thanks
2020-01-29T08:27:53 #kisslinux <merakor> I will source it on michael's repository.
2020-01-29T08:28:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> i'll use that. Tell me, i'm still learning my way around github and these sort of situations, how did you find that so quickly
2020-01-29T08:28:10 #kisslinux <merakor> Since dimitris is nowhere to be found
2020-01-29T08:28:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> and figure out how it would be the patch we need?
2020-01-29T08:28:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> f
2020-01-29T08:28:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> whoops
2020-01-29T08:28:33 #kisslinux <merakor> I knew what the problem was, so I knew where to look
2020-01-29T08:28:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-01-29T08:28:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> that helps
2020-01-29T08:28:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-01-29T08:28:56 #kisslinux <merakor> :D
2020-01-29T08:29:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> merakor: thanks for your help, and please do not hesitate to send me suggestions or email me
2020-01-29T08:30:03 #kisslinux <merakor> Also, you can get patches directly on github when you append '.patch' to the commit
2020-01-29T08:30:09 #kisslinux <merakor> Which is a really nice feature
2020-01-29T08:30:10 #kisslinux <adamantium> GREAT
2020-01-29T08:30:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> yeah.
2020-01-29T08:30:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> I like that you can get a tarball of any branch, too
2020-01-29T08:31:42 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, it doesn't require a release, so you can get the tarball of any single commit
2020-01-29T08:31:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I use that a lot :P
2020-01-29T08:31:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: quick question
2020-01-29T08:31:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ya
2020-01-29T08:31:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> with the latest ubase PR (check in 3 2 1...)
2020-01-29T08:32:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ya
2020-01-29T08:32:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> two issues
2020-01-29T08:32:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh
2020-01-29T08:32:53 #kisslinux <adamantium> one i have a problem with a conflict
2020-01-29T08:32:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I wouldn't fetch the patch from remote
2020-01-29T08:33:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-01-29T08:33:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Safer to keep it locally stored
2020-01-29T08:33:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> hows it safer
2020-01-29T08:33:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> allows us to audit easier?
2020-01-29T08:33:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Remote source can't go bye bye (even if this is rare)
2020-01-29T08:33:49 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-01-29T08:33:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> another question
2020-01-29T08:33:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What's the conflict issue?
2020-01-29T08:34:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://github.com/kisslinux/community/pull/272/conflicts
2020-01-29T08:34:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-01-29T08:34:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Due to the last commit
2020-01-29T08:34:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Want me to fix it?
2020-01-29T08:35:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> yes pls
2020-01-29T08:35:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> :D
2020-01-29T08:35:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> I have some foresight here however. sinit will fail to build now because of this ubase upgrade
2020-01-29T08:35:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fixed
2020-01-29T08:35:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> *lol*
2020-01-29T08:35:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can sinit work without sbase/ubase?
2020-01-29T08:36:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'd prefer to not tie it to a coreutils if possible
2020-01-29T08:36:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> let's see...
2020-01-29T08:36:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> well
2020-01-29T08:36:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: The sources/checksums file need a trailing newline
2020-01-29T08:36:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I removed it
2020-01-29T08:36:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> oops
2020-01-29T08:37:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I can fix it for you if you like
2020-01-29T08:37:10 #kisslinux <adamantium> ya please do
2020-01-29T08:37:16 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'm thinking about sinit atm and all scatterbrained
2020-01-29T08:37:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Done
2020-01-29T08:38:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just make the patch local to the repository and it'll be ready for merge
2020-01-29T08:38:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok dylanaraps
2020-01-29T08:38:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> i might have found a bug
2020-01-29T08:39:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://termbin.com/gd3s2
2020-01-29T08:39:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> ff
2020-01-29T08:40:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: ^^^^  see what happened? I did "kiss i ubase", it warned of conflicts and advised alternatives, fine. then i simply typed it again, "kiss i ubase" and it did what idk?????????????
2020-01-29T08:41:57 #kisslinux <merakor> sinit does require respawn from ubase, but I solved it by just installing respawn along with sinit
2020-01-29T08:42:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> yeah we need respawn.
2020-01-29T08:42:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> respawn is really cool too i like it
2020-01-29T08:42:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: I can't reproduce
2020-01-29T08:42:43 #kisslinux <merakor> I didn't have any other ubase tools up until now
2020-01-29T08:42:53 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: ok but you see my output
2020-01-29T08:43:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> ^_^
2020-01-29T08:43:30 #kisslinux <merakor> Eh
2020-01-29T08:43:43 #kisslinux <merakor> I can't extract with sbase tar
2020-01-29T08:43:53 #kisslinux <merakor> on kiss
2020-01-29T08:43:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: That's a given
2020-01-29T08:44:08 #kisslinux <konimex> ah yes, the tar problem, iirc it was discussed back when kiss was on discord
2020-01-29T08:44:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The tar command has no standard
2020-01-29T08:44:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: How did ubase installed once it worked? Where did the files go?
2020-01-29T08:45:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Once we merge your PR I'll test
2020-01-29T08:45:15 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah that is an issue, I'll unlink tar from sbase
2020-01-29T08:47:43 #kisslinux <mforney> yeah, i'd recommend avoiding sbase tar. it has some known bugs
2020-01-29T08:48:57 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: i believe it went to /usr/bin . seems im a broke system
2020-01-29T08:49:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> i pushed the PR still should be ready
2020-01-29T08:49:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK
2020-01-29T08:49:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Trying now
2020-01-29T08:49:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> gl have fun
2020-01-29T08:50:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> im making me some coffee
2020-01-29T08:50:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> lets leave gnugrep and coreutils etc alone for a few days
2020-01-29T08:50:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I can't reproduce
2020-01-29T08:50:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All good
2020-01-29T08:50:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> i want sufficient testing on sbase and ubase first
2020-01-29T08:50:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Did this happen while sbase was the system coreutils?
2020-01-29T08:50:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> before changing the way the entire ecosys works
2020-01-29T08:51:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: let me see
2020-01-29T08:52:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nope, can't reproduce even when using all of sbase (minus tar)
2020-01-29T08:53:27 #kisslinux <merakor> I have no issues either
2020-01-29T08:53:57 #kisslinux <adamantium> okay dylanaraps here is the output of my ENTIRE terminal session, https://termbin.com/fdza # shows my steps by steps how i upgraded to the latest kiss version, then installed  the new sbase (from git) , (take note that i didn't get around to trying alternatives, i just left it alone...), then i started messing with ubase....
2020-01-29T08:54:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> ff
2020-01-29T08:54:49 #kisslinux <adamantium> keep in mind i was using a `dumb' terminal, so if there is missing text, it's probably due to me backspacing over it with my cursor
2020-01-29T08:56:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> this is just a chroot i'm working in though. so i'll just trash later probably, i'm glad things are working for you guys
2020-01-29T08:56:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't see what changed as it worked once (and aborted)
2020-01-29T08:57:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> yeah it was weird
2020-01-29T08:57:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Why did it not detect conflicts the second time?
2020-01-29T08:57:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> i was expecting to be warned a second time
2020-01-29T08:57:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> agreed!
2020-01-29T08:57:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Could emacs have read: !> Run 'KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss i sbase' to add conflicts
2020-01-29T08:57:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And set the envar?
2020-01-29T08:57:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> nope
2020-01-29T08:57:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> impsosible
2020-01-29T08:59:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hm
2020-01-29T08:59:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nothing changed with the tarball either
2020-01-29T09:00:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Literally nothing changed
2020-01-29T09:00:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> lets poke at the chroot
2020-01-29T09:00:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> maybe nothing happened
2020-01-29T09:03:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> okay the system is still busybox
2020-01-29T09:03:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> its fine
2020-01-29T09:03:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> that's good atleast.
2020-01-29T09:04:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Where did the sbase files go?
2020-01-29T09:04:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What does the manifest file for it say?
2020-01-29T09:04:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss i sbase does not show sbae with kiss a
2020-01-29T09:04:57 #kisslinux <adamantium> When I type "kiss a" i see nothing regarding sbase
2020-01-29T09:05:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> after typing, KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss i sbase
2020-01-29T09:05:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> try kiss a again, still nothing
2020-01-29T09:05:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps>  What does the manifest file for it say?
2020-01-29T09:05:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> diregard
2020-01-29T09:05:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> i think im on the wrong branch
2020-01-29T09:05:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> lmao
2020-01-29T09:06:16 #kisslinux <adamantium> yep
2020-01-29T09:06:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> that'll do it
2020-01-29T09:09:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> ya its perfecct
2020-01-29T09:09:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> i think i just was on the wrong branch and forgot
2020-01-29T09:09:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> Sorry about that
2020-01-29T09:09:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: GREAT WORK
2020-01-29T09:19:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :P
2020-01-29T09:30:52 #kisslinux <merakor> being unable to use kiss as root removes KISS_ROOT functionality
2020-01-29T09:31:17 #kisslinux <merakor> Doesn't it
2020-01-29T09:31:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No no
2020-01-29T09:31:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just set KISS_ASROOT=1 to override it
2020-01-29T09:31:57 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh I see, thanks
2020-01-29T09:32:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The kiss-chroot script does this now
2020-01-29T09:33:47 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, it would also be hard to create rootfs tarballs without it.
2020-01-29T09:42:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> aalright got the mechanical keyboard plugged in
2020-01-29T09:42:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> now we're getting serious
2020-01-29T09:45:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> Did we decide about sinit, the best way forward. I think we could just leave it
2020-01-29T09:46:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> IDK
2020-01-29T09:46:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> I don't understand how alternatives works well enough yet to know what to do
2020-01-29T09:46:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: / ^
2020-01-29T09:46:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> The issue is sinit needs ubase respawn
2020-01-29T09:47:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> ubase now is not smooth install becausae requires alternatives intervention
2020-01-29T09:47:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> but assuming somebody knows even to want to swap init systems they should be motivated enough to figure out how to install all / or part/ of ubase box, right?
2020-01-29T09:48:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> i'll leave it as is for now, but i'll wait for command from on high or if somebody opens an issue or PR then we can revisit this.
2020-01-29T09:55:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss i sbase ubase ; kiss i busybox # results in busybox overwriting sbase/ubase without warning of conflict. What is going on here
2020-01-29T09:59:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/issues/97
2020-01-29T10:30:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://github.com/kisslinux/community/issues/273
2020-01-29T10:31:02 #kisslinux <konimex> looks like suckless base sucks after all
2020-01-29T10:32:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> heh
2020-01-29T10:35:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> :D
2020-01-29T10:38:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: if you get smart and try to manually fix things e.g.
2020-01-29T10:39:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps:  # ln -s /bin/busybox /bin/su
2020-01-29T10:39:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> bad things happen
2020-01-29T10:39:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> :D
2020-01-29T10:39:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's wrong
2020-01-29T10:40:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ln -s busybox-suid /usr/bin/su
2020-01-29T10:41:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> okay but still
2020-01-29T10:41:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> !> File '/usr/bin/su' exists on filesystem but isn't owned
2020-01-29T10:41:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> when running kiss a | grep ^sbase | kiss a -
2020-01-29T10:41:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> ^^^ happens
2020-01-29T10:42:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> kiss a | grep ^busybox | kiss a -          # typo
2020-01-29T10:44:43 #kisslinux <konimex> looks like kiss just looks for "su" now
2020-01-29T10:45:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: I don't know what you did to break it
2020-01-29T10:45:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What commands did you run?
2020-01-29T10:46:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> okay
2020-01-29T10:46:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> 1. swapped from busybox to ubase.
2020-01-29T10:46:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> 2. noticed su was broken
2020-01-29T10:46:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> 3. ln -s busybox-suid /usr/bin/su # fix su , works
2020-01-29T10:46:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Wrong
2020-01-29T10:46:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just swap back with 'kiss a'
2020-01-29T10:46:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'kiss a busybox /usr/bin/su'
2020-01-29T10:46:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> 4. kiss a | grep ^busybox | kiss a -
2020-01-29T10:46:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You broke it with the 'ln' command
2020-01-29T10:47:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> correct
2020-01-29T10:47:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > kiss a busybox /usr/bin/su
2020-01-29T10:47:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's how you'd swap a single
2020-01-29T10:47:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> thats what im trying to do
2020-01-29T10:47:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> but
2020-01-29T10:48:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> kiss a busybox /usr/bin/su kiss a busybox /usr/bin/su #  !> File '/usr/bin/su' exists on filesystem but isn't owned # /usr/bin $
2020-01-29T10:48:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-01-29T10:48:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> so how do i get out of this
2020-01-29T10:48:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Because you broke it with the 'ln' above
2020-01-29T10:48:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 2 secs
2020-01-29T10:48:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> correct
2020-01-29T10:48:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> the reason im reporting is less because "omg my system is broke"
2020-01-29T10:48:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> But I'm just trying to help others avoid making my dummy mistakes
2020-01-29T10:48:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Gotcha
2020-01-29T10:49:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Does 'kiss a' show both 'ubase' and 'busybox' 'su'?
2020-01-29T10:49:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://termbin.com/42c5
2020-01-29T10:50:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Open busybox's manifest file
2020-01-29T10:50:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> remind where is that
2020-01-29T10:50:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > /var/db/kiss/installed/busybox/manifest
2020-01-29T10:51:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Replace the /var/db/kiss/choices/busybox>usr>bin>su line with /usr/bin/su
2020-01-29T10:51:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://termbin.com/yu0e
2020-01-29T10:51:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Remove: /var/db/kiss/choices/busybox>usr>bin>su (the actual file) if it exists on the fs
2020-01-29T10:51:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > /var/db/kiss/choices/busybox>usr>bin>su
2020-01-29T10:51:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's there
2020-01-29T10:55:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> i removed the line
2020-01-29T10:55:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> from the manifest.
2020-01-29T10:55:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> BUT cd /var/db/kiss/choices/ --> /bin/sh: /var/db/kiss/choices/: Permission denied
2020-01-29T10:55:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> (as root)
2020-01-29T10:55:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> disregard.
2020-01-29T10:55:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> typeo
2020-01-29T10:56:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> /var/db/kiss/choices/busybox: No such file or directory
2020-01-29T10:56:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> is that okay ^
2020-01-29T10:56:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You're not supposed to remove the line
2020-01-29T10:56:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You're supposed to replace it
2020-01-29T10:56:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh lol
2020-01-29T10:57:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> phew
2020-01-29T10:57:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Replace the /var/db/kiss/choices/busybox>usr>bin>su line with /usr/bin/su
2020-01-29T10:57:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Remove: /var/db/kiss/choices/busybox>usr>bin>su (the actual file) if it exists on the fs
2020-01-29T10:57:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> rm -f /var/db/kiss/choices/busybox>usr>bin>su
2020-01-29T10:57:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> the entire directory /var/db/kiss/choices/busybox does not exist
2020-01-29T10:57:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's not a directory
2020-01-29T10:57:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh
2020-01-29T10:57:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There are no subdirectories
2020-01-29T10:58:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's a file called busybox>usr>bin>su
2020-01-29T10:58:01 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok done
2020-01-29T10:58:10 #kisslinux <adamantium> weird file name, cool
2020-01-29T10:58:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just / replaced with >
2020-01-29T11:00:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> that fixed it, now switched back to __all busybox__ successfully via kiss a | grep ^busybox | kiss a -
2020-01-29T11:00:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2020-01-29T11:00:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> however, su does not work strangely
2020-01-29T11:01:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> let me explain
2020-01-29T11:01:53 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: see kiss a | grep ^busybox | kiss a -
2020-01-29T11:02:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: see https://termbin.com/thwv
2020-01-29T11:03:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Try 'kiss i busybox;
2020-01-29T11:03:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'kiss i busybox'
2020-01-29T11:03:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> with KISS_ROOT=1
2020-01-29T11:03:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> right?
2020-01-29T11:03:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> in this case
2020-01-29T11:03:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS_ASROOT=1
2020-01-29T11:04:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is for running kiss as root
2020-01-29T11:04:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> k, building first
2020-01-29T11:05:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> HEHE wackamole
2020-01-29T11:05:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Lesson: Don't do manual fixes as root without knowing exactly how to fix it
2020-01-29T11:05:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> sorry boss
2020-01-29T11:05:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :^)
2020-01-29T11:06:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I broke my system so many times yesterday
2020-01-29T11:06:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Including no working /bin at all
2020-01-29T11:07:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (While I was writing it)
2020-01-29T11:07:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok
2020-01-29T11:07:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://termbin.com/y7rw
2020-01-29T11:07:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> btw why does it ask root for root password
2020-01-29T11:07:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;)
2020-01-29T11:08:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: What does busybox conflict with?
2020-01-29T11:08:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Will fix
2020-01-29T11:08:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> sbase ubase
2020-01-29T11:08:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> gnugrep
2020-01-29T11:08:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> idk
2020-01-29T11:08:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> thats it
2020-01-29T11:09:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is because they were swapped with 'kiss a' correct?
2020-01-29T11:09:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> beforehand, yes
2020-01-29T11:09:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> I have recently run the command howevern kiss a | grep ^busybox | kiss a -
2020-01-29T11:09:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Why?
2020-01-29T11:09:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> i'm trying to "go back" basically
2020-01-29T11:09:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> why not?
2020-01-29T11:09:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'm testing the system we have, trying to find bugs
2020-01-29T11:10:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You're making it worse by running extra commands before fixing the manual commands which broke it beforehand
2020-01-29T11:10:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> okay lets just trash this chroot
2020-01-29T11:10:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> i'
2020-01-29T11:10:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> i'm cool with that
2020-01-29T11:11:01 #kisslinux <adamantium> i dont want to waste our time here
2020-01-29T11:11:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ok
2020-01-29T11:13:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> I have to agree with konimex about suckless
2020-01-29T11:13:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> ^_^
2020-01-29T11:14:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I think we should remove 'su' from our 'ubase' package
2020-01-29T11:14:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> i would like to orphan sinit ubase and sbase
2020-01-29T11:14:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> tbh
2020-01-29T11:14:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> It's above my paygrade
2020-01-29T11:14:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor:
2020-01-29T11:14:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll take them over if no one wants to
2020-01-29T11:14:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: is that okay?
2020-01-29T11:15:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> Ok thanks
2020-01-29T11:16:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not really, I'd rather not maintain more packages.. but that's why I'm here
2020-01-29T11:20:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> Well, that's also why I said, "I would like to", but I don't always do everything that I like-- I'm open to still maintaining them if needed, and helping out as always.
2020-01-29T11:21:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> It's a request, is all. If anyone else wants the job, I'm happy to hand it over. <dylanaraps> merakor:
2020-01-29T11:21:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> Is that okay now?
2020-01-29T11:21:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's OK regardless
2020-01-29T11:24:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> cool
2020-01-29T11:24:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> Nice work again, I'm shocked you implemented alternatives both 1. this fast. and 2. this WELL.
2020-01-29T11:24:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> It really allows the user to create some interesting setups...........
2020-01-29T11:30:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-29T11:30:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I fixed the prompts showing as root btw
2020-01-29T11:30:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Pushed an update
2020-01-29T11:30:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> beautiful
2020-01-29T11:31:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> let me know if merakor is going to fix the sinit mess
2020-01-29T11:31:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> otherwise i'll see what I can do, probably with your help
2020-01-29T11:32:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> I just don't have as much time as I had a couple weeks ago. I need to be able to get myself on auto-pilot for a little while
2020-01-29T11:32:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All good
2020-01-29T11:33:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: Regarding all the gnu packages, coreutils, etc. Shall i now just move everything to /usr PREFIX
2020-01-29T11:33:59 #kisslinux <adamantium> and remove 'g' prefixes?
2020-01-29T11:34:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> kiss looks for 'g'grep IIRC but maybe that's a kiss issue
2020-01-29T11:41:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I think for gnugrep it's better to offer both
2020-01-29T11:41:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> grep and ggrep
2020-01-29T11:42:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> For a whole coreutils it's better go straight for /usr
2020-01-29T11:42:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok cool
2020-01-29T11:43:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: what bout nawk, can it just install itself as both nawk and awk then
2020-01-29T11:43:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> like grep?
2020-01-29T11:44:07 #kisslinux <adamantium> yeah. and gawk will install as both gawk and awk
2020-01-29T11:44:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol this is going to be so chaotic
2020-01-29T11:44:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> good thing kiss can handle it
2020-01-29T11:47:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :P
2020-01-29T11:47:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Gives you both at the same time while allowing you to also swap the default 'awk' as an example
2020-01-29T11:49:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> OK question
2020-01-29T11:49:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> What's the easiest way to "inspect" the current state of your alternatives
2020-01-29T11:50:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> Is there a way to list all of my packages that are installed that have the alternatives option, and then to list the "active" alternative?>
2020-01-29T11:50:49 #kisslinux <adamantium> idk, maybe this isn't needed.
2020-01-29T11:51:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If 'sbase /usr/bin/ls' is in alternatives it means that something else aleady provides /usr/bin/ls
2020-01-29T11:52:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You can use 'kiss-owns /usr/bin/ls' to find out (or just grep the manifest files yourself)
2020-01-29T11:53:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> As all of the swapping is manually handled by the user, you should know what you're swapping regardless.
2020-01-29T11:54:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is more of an "advanced" feature and not something you *need* to use
2020-01-29T11:54:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's great for someone wanting to swap busybox for example
2020-01-29T11:57:14 #kisslinux <icyphox> Hey, I just did a 'kiss u' -- why does it ask for the root password?
2020-01-29T11:58:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-01-29T11:58:33 #kisslinux <icyphox> Just read the backlog, I think I missed something big.
2020-01-29T11:58:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> more information
2020-01-29T11:58:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> ran kiss u as which user?
2020-01-29T11:59:02 #kisslinux <icyphox> My user.
2020-01-29T11:59:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> so to update your git repositories in /var it's going to need to be root is it not?
2020-01-29T11:59:24 #kisslinux <icyphox> I mean, it normally asks for the sudo password, as opposed to the root password.
2020-01-29T11:59:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh okay, yes, the mechanism is changed we use su now
2020-01-29T12:00:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> and it will only ask you your password ONCE
2020-01-29T12:00:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> Wait, why?
2020-01-29T12:00:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> why would you want sudo
2020-01-29T12:00:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No more endless password prompts
2020-01-29T12:00:20 #kisslinux <icyphox> My root password is more complex and bigger lol.
2020-01-29T12:00:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-01-29T12:00:36 #kisslinux <konimex> su requires endless prompt every time it's invoked
2020-01-29T12:00:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> icyphox: I'll push an update to make it use sudo/doas if available
2020-01-29T12:00:44 #kisslinux <adamantium> can't please evrrybody
2020-01-29T12:00:49 #kisslinux <icyphox> Fair fair.
2020-01-29T12:01:12 #kisslinux <icyphox> I see the point.
2020-01-29T12:01:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The change was made to remove the endless password prompts basically
2020-01-29T12:01:31 #kisslinux <icyphox> Makes sense. I'll roll with it. :D
2020-01-29T12:01:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> my Emacs is smart enough to look in my ~/.authinfo.gpg for an SU password
2020-01-29T12:01:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> and cache it
2020-01-29T12:02:03 #kisslinux <konimex> gee if only everyone use emacs
2020-01-29T12:02:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> you guys just dont know what you're doing
2020-01-29T12:02:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> :D
2020-01-29T12:02:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's no point in a longer root password if sudo will use your account's "weaker" password anyway though
2020-01-29T12:02:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> ++
2020-01-29T12:03:22 #kisslinux <konimex> what if the root account is disabled by default?
2020-01-29T12:03:29 #kisslinux <konimex> two secs
2020-01-29T12:03:34 #kisslinux <icyphox> dylanaraps: That is correct.
2020-01-29T12:03:48 #kisslinux <icyphox> Force of habit lol, I always set a bigger pw for root.
2020-01-29T12:04:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> you could install "expect" and use it with a wrapper for kiss and store your root password in a gpg password
2020-01-29T12:04:59 #kisslinux <adamantium> you dont need emacs konimex ^
2020-01-29T12:05:02 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Did you actually select the cypher when setting the root pw?
2020-01-29T12:05:11 #kisslinux <konimex> "passwd -l" ing root is possible
2020-01-29T12:05:15 #kisslinux <konimex> so "su" won't work
2020-01-29T12:05:17 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Chances are your root pw is 8 characters long :p
2020-01-29T12:05:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-01-29T12:05:29 #kisslinux <konimex> another method would be needed
2020-01-29T12:05:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: Would sudo work in that case?
2020-01-29T12:05:40 #kisslinux <konimex> yes
2020-01-29T12:06:25 #kisslinux <konimex> ubuntu (or debian iirc) has it by default
2020-01-29T12:07:01 #kisslinux <konimex> root acc locked down and one user is given sudo access
2020-01-29T12:07:25 #kisslinux <icyphox> ^
2020-01-29T12:07:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fix time
2020-01-29T12:08:06 #kisslinux <icyphox> heh
2020-01-29T12:08:26 #kisslinux <icyphox> Aarg[m]: if you're referring to my root pw, I'll have you know that it's 15 chars long.
2020-01-29T12:08:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> A simple, if sudo available; use it; else su should be good no?
2020-01-29T12:08:31 #kisslinux <icyphox> Hmpf
2020-01-29T12:08:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> icyphox: It may be truncated
2020-01-29T12:08:39 #kisslinux <icyphox> dylanaraps: yep
2020-01-29T12:08:53 #kisslinux <icyphox> It gets truncated?
2020-01-29T12:09:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Try 'su' with only the first 8 chars of your pw
2020-01-29T12:09:32 #kisslinux <konimex> my root pw is 6 chars long so there's that
2020-01-29T12:10:12 #kisslinux <icyphox> dylanaraps: holy shit
2020-01-29T12:10:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> mine is 4 chars
2020-01-29T12:10:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> iwin
2020-01-29T12:10:37 #kisslinux <icyphox> I had no idea.
2020-01-29T12:10:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Mine i 6 chars
2020-01-29T12:10:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> is*
2020-01-29T12:11:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> icyphox be protecting himself from the nsa over here
2020-01-29T12:11:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;)
2020-01-29T12:11:29 #kisslinux <icyphox> adamantium: I /am/ the NSA.
2020-01-29T12:11:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh snap
2020-01-29T12:11:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> adamantium: looking good btw :)
2020-01-29T12:11:50 #kisslinux * adamantium changes root password
2020-01-29T12:12:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> yoou'll never take me alive
2020-01-29T12:12:07 #kisslinux <icyphox> :D
2020-01-29T12:12:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> What is looking good
2020-01-29T12:12:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> You are.
2020-01-29T12:13:12 #kisslinux <icyphox> It was a silly joke.
2020-01-29T12:13:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> WAT. Are you a female user on kiss i'll never believe it
2020-01-29T12:13:28 #kisslinux <icyphox> lmao no
2020-01-29T12:13:31 #kisslinux <icyphox> I'm a dude.
2020-01-29T12:13:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh god
2020-01-29T12:13:38 #kisslinux <icyphox> Sorry to disappoint.
2020-01-29T12:13:50 #kisslinux <adamantium> It's ok, I can receive a compliment
2020-01-29T12:13:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> Thanks
2020-01-29T12:13:59 #kisslinux <icyphox> lol
2020-01-29T12:14:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> brb
2020-01-29T12:14:18 #kisslinux <icyphox> It was a lame 'NSA man spying on you' typa joke.
2020-01-29T12:14:20 #kisslinux <icyphox> Aight.
2020-01-29T12:22:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> Gotcha
2020-01-29T12:22:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> lmao
2020-01-29T12:31:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> icyphox: Pushed
2020-01-29T12:31:24 #kisslinux <icyphox> Neat. Thanks. :)
2020-01-29T12:31:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/commit/a68805537459f378dcc25fff49389ad94e8f5fc2
2020-01-29T12:31:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will do some more testing and make a release in a little
2020-01-29T12:35:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Pushed to repos
2020-01-29T12:48:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> oof
2020-01-29T12:48:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I need to make more changes.
2020-01-29T12:48:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This complicates things
2020-01-29T12:51:36 #kisslinux <konimex> I'd drop #93 entirely, if the old method works, it works
2020-01-29T12:52:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Endless password prompts aren't ideal regardless
2020-01-29T12:52:35 #kisslinux <konimex> not if one's on sudo
2020-01-29T12:52:36 #kisslinux <konimex> oh well
2020-01-29T12:53:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Well, you're only caching 5 minutes on sudo
2020-01-29T12:53:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And the user could disable caching
2020-01-29T12:54:00 #kisslinux <konimex> aye
2020-01-29T15:47:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The cat hospital continues
2020-01-29T15:47:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Have a baby with fluid in her lungs
2020-01-29T15:53:51 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: https://termbin.com/ih0n
2020-01-29T15:54:37 #kisslinux <merakor> kiss-utils doesn't build with the specified install command with sbase
2020-01-29T15:54:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> hey merakor wanna take over sbase ubase and sinit
2020-01-29T15:55:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> you can have em?
2020-01-29T15:55:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> please :D
2020-01-29T15:55:17 #kisslinux <merakor> Sure I would love to :D
2020-01-29T15:55:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> merakor: ok boss they are yours \ dylanaraps
2020-01-29T15:55:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> Thanks
2020-01-29T15:56:26 #kisslinux <merakor> Sure thing
2020-01-29T15:56:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh fyi your first issue is in community at the top
2020-01-29T15:56:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;)
2020-01-29T15:56:47 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh nice
2020-01-29T15:56:49 #kisslinux <merakor> :D
2020-01-29T15:58:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: I bet there's a bunch of build files to fix
2020-01-29T16:02:14 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, there are looots of `sed -i` usage
2020-01-29T16:03:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :(
2020-01-29T16:16:00 #kisslinux <merakor> grep -ir "sed -i" repository | wc -l
2020-01-29T16:16:02 #kisslinux <merakor> > 29
2020-01-29T16:16:19 #kisslinux <merakor> Less than what I thought
2020-01-29T16:17:18 #kisslinux <merakor> grep -ir "sed -i" community | wc -l
2020-01-29T16:17:20 #kisslinux <merakor> > 15
2020-01-29T16:28:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not too bad
2020-01-29T16:33:01 #kisslinux <E5ten> in response to mentions of tar above, bsdtar best tar ;)
2020-01-29T16:33:23 #kisslinux <merakor> I agree
2020-01-29T16:34:08 #kisslinux <E5ten> like toybox provides pretty much all my utilities but I'd never use tar from toybox busybox s/ubase (whichever has it), it's all about bsdtar cuz it's just so very good
2020-01-29T16:35:50 #kisslinux <merakor> How is toybox?
2020-01-29T16:35:59 #kisslinux <E5ten> great
2020-01-29T16:36:17 #kisslinux <merakor> I have used it before but it has been a really long time.
2020-01-29T16:37:20 #kisslinux <E5ten> doesn't really have a usable init though as far as I know
2020-01-29T16:40:47 #kisslinux <merakor> Init is the simplest component to be honest
2020-01-29T16:40:56 #kisslinux <merakor> Not hard to implement one yourself
2020-01-29T16:41:57 #kisslinux <E5ten> I'm an openrc user so I just use openrc-init
2020-01-29T16:42:07 #kisslinux <E5ten> I was just talking from the perspective of what you might care about
2020-01-29T16:42:33 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh I see
2020-01-29T16:43:12 #kisslinux <merakor> What distro are you using?
2020-01-29T16:43:15 #kisslinux <merakor> Gentoo?
2020-01-29T16:43:55 #kisslinux <E5ten> artix with tons of modification (like every package except glibc is locally rebuilt and the only reason glibc isn't too is cuz it doesn't compile with clang)
2020-01-29T16:44:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> I used artix s6 recently, it was fun.
2020-01-29T16:44:31 #kisslinux <merakor> Glibc is a disaster, really
2020-01-29T16:44:52 #kisslinux <merakor> I remember first doing an LFS build
2020-01-29T16:45:01 #kisslinux <E5ten> yeah I'd love to not use it but I do use upstream binary packages for makedeps I don't want to leave installed so I have to stay on it
2020-01-29T16:45:16 #kisslinux <E5ten> not upstream upstream like distro
2020-01-29T16:45:19 #kisslinux <E5ten> as opposed to packages I build
2020-01-29T16:45:23 #kisslinux <merakor> The book literally advices you to rebuild in case glibc is updated
2020-01-29T16:55:35 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylanaraps: when are we getting the eiwd rebase :>)
2020-01-29T17:08:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> E5ten: Maybe someday :^)
2020-01-29T17:09:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm playing doctor again so I may have some extra time this week
2020-01-29T17:11:05 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: I have pushed fixed versions of builds on my repository
2020-01-29T17:11:55 #kisslinux <merakor> I don't have every package on KISS and I have some extra packages that aren't on KISS
2020-01-29T17:12:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Using regular sed + mv or using ed?
2020-01-29T17:12:26 #kisslinux <merakor> But I hope they will be useful to you as well
2020-01-29T17:12:35 #kisslinux <merakor> regular sed + mv
2020-01-29T17:12:56 #kisslinux <merakor> I thought it would be more reliable
2020-01-29T17:14:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-29T17:14:33 #kisslinux <merakor> You're welcome
2020-01-29T17:19:16 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: sent a PR for webkit on community
2020-01-29T17:21:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Added a comment
2020-01-29T17:29:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Problem.
2020-01-29T17:29:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This mv method breaks executable permissions
2020-01-29T17:30:37 #kisslinux <aarng> is $_ posix btw?
2020-01-29T17:30:47 #kisslinux <aarng> could make the mv call even shorter with it
2020-01-29T17:30:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Only for interactive use iirc
2020-01-29T17:31:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I haven't seen it work in a script with ash/dash
2020-01-29T17:32:13 #kisslinux <aarng> yeah, does not work
2020-01-29T17:32:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I need to preserve permissions somehow
2020-01-29T17:33:48 #kisslinux <aarng> a good ed implementation would solve a lot of problems but would mean no pure busybox compatability
2020-01-29T17:34:13 #kisslinux <aarng> I feel like bb really dropped the ball with their ed implementation, I mean wtf?
2020-01-29T17:34:17 #kisslinux <aarng> might as well not include it
2020-01-29T17:34:39 #kisslinux <E5ten> given that ed is very obsolete I agree that they should just not include it :p
2020-01-29T17:35:29 #kisslinux <aarng> sed -i is not posix
2020-01-29T17:36:04 #kisslinux <aarng> I mean look at the hoops we have to jump through now
2020-01-29T17:36:19 #kisslinux <aarng> tmpfile, mv tmpfile without fucking up permissions
2020-01-29T17:39:33 #kisslinux <merakor> I really want to unlink sed from sbase ¯_(ツ)_/¯
2020-01-29T17:40:01 #kisslinux <merakor> -i is an unbelievably good feature
2020-01-29T17:41:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Well, which sed implementations include -i?
2020-01-29T17:41:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'd much rather keep it too
2020-01-29T17:42:09 #kisslinux <E5ten> I don't think I've encountered one outside of sbase?
2020-01-29T17:43:07 #kisslinux <E5ten> and only BSD ones have the required arg for -i behaviour
2020-01-29T17:43:37 #kisslinux <E5ten> although, if you wanted to be compatible with every sed that has -i regardless of behaviour you could just do something like -ibak and then remove file.bak?
2020-01-29T17:43:38 #kisslinux <aarng> for me it would be a good ed or sed -i, everything else sucks
2020-01-29T17:46:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We already have a pretty good sed
2020-01-29T17:46:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Even toybox sed has '-i'
2020-01-29T17:46:40 #kisslinux <merakor> I am reverting atm
2020-01-29T17:46:53 #kisslinux <merakor> POSIX should add a specification for -i
2020-01-29T17:47:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> They refused to due to -i behaving differenty across implementations.
2020-01-29T17:47:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If they were to do it, it'd be -I
2020-01-29T17:47:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: git revert --no-commit HEAD~5..
2020-01-29T17:47:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I used this, just replace 5 with the count you need.
2020-01-29T17:48:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Then 'git add .; git commit; git push'
2020-01-29T17:48:35 #kisslinux <merakor> I am okay with whatever flag they want to give to that functionality, they should just add it :P
2020-01-29T17:49:31 #kisslinux <merakor> Thanks dylan
2020-01-29T17:56:14 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylanaraps: you say "even toybox sed has '-i'" as if toybox is usually bad about having common flags :p
2020-01-29T18:05:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> E5ten: :^0
2020-01-29T18:05:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :^)*
2020-01-29T18:09:35 #kisslinux <E5ten> slanderous
2020-01-29T18:11:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Idea: Simple shell script to handle in-place editing which comes with kiss
2020-01-29T18:11:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Would be 'ised' for example
2020-01-29T18:11:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Though I kinda don't want the build scripts to include things which are "unknown" to people
2020-01-29T18:12:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> They're pretty self contained now
2020-01-29T18:14:30 #kisslinux <E5ten> imo not using sed from sbase and just assuming -i is the best course, every other sed implementation I've seen that's used on linux has it and has the optional arg behaviour
2020-01-29T18:18:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's what I'm going to do
2020-01-29T18:19:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's even more painful when it's multiple files with -i
2020-01-29T18:19:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sed -i 's/search/replace/g' file file2
2020-01-29T18:45:35 #kisslinux <klay> Morning
2020-01-29T18:46:56 #kisslinux <merakor> Hey
2020-01-29T18:47:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ello
2020-01-29T19:30:23 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: sinit PR coming soon
2020-01-29T19:47:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-01-29T20:10:04 #kisslinux <merakor> It's out
2020-01-29T20:20:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will leave some comments now and some tomorrow morning
2020-01-29T20:21:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's late here
2020-01-29T20:27:00 #kisslinux <merakor> That's okay
2020-01-29T20:36:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-01-29T21:00:18 #kisslinux <fyr> has kiss got a easy encryption method at install?
2020-01-29T21:00:44 #kisslinux <fyr> might be getting a new laptop soon and will probably try out kiss then
2020-01-29T21:01:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lvm2/cryptsetup are supported through dm.mod.create
2020-01-29T21:01:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/device-mapper/dm-init.html
2020-01-29T21:01:59 #kisslinux <fyr> ah okay no ez method for encryption
2020-01-29T21:02:29 #kisslinux <fyr> like select install with encryption
2020-01-29T21:02:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No
2020-01-29T21:02:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The install process is entirely by hand
2020-01-29T21:02:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's no installer
2020-01-29T21:02:59 #kisslinux <fyr> alpine is my daily driver but it's not really geared too much towards desktop users
2020-01-29T21:03:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> See: https://getkiss.org/pages/install
2020-01-29T21:03:13 #kisslinux <fyr> by hand is fine
2020-01-29T21:03:28 #kisslinux <fyr> it's just doing encryption by hand is normally a pain in the ass
2020-01-29T21:04:02 #kisslinux <fyr> and little documentation
2020-01-29T21:04:10 #kisslinux <fyr> that isn't a mindfuck
2020-01-29T21:07:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-01-29T21:08:01 #kisslinux <klay> dylanaraps: There is a small gpg issue with your key http://vpaste.net/0cfkN
2020-01-29T21:09:55 #kisslinux <dzove855> dylanaraps: actually i started working on it : https://github.com/dzove855/biss/
2020-01-29T21:10:07 #kisslinux <dzove855> but did not had yet time to work fully on it
2020-01-29T21:10:35 #kisslinux <dzove855> also some parts i will copy paste since it's already clean
2020-01-29T21:10:50 #kisslinux <fyr> do you love stallman or something?
2020-01-29T21:17:57 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylanaraps: does the explicit variable you use sed on to remove a word from end up having spaces at the beginning and end of the string before you use sed?
2020-01-29T21:18:14 #kisslinux <E5ten> I guess it'd have to to remove a string from the front
2020-01-29T21:21:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> E5ten: Yes
2020-01-29T21:21:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> klay: Interesting, haven't had this happen before.
2020-01-29T21:21:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> dzove885: Neat, will take a look
2020-01-29T21:22:07 #kisslinux <dzove855> there isn't any big changes currently, will keep you updated
2020-01-29T21:22:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > IFS=: read -a kiss_path <<<"$KISS_PATH"
2020-01-29T21:22:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Bash makes this so easy
2020-01-29T21:23:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also: globbing with globstar (**) to replace find
2020-01-29T21:23:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Arrays!
2020-01-29T21:23:37 #kisslinux <E5ten> you do ${UID:-$(id -u)} but you should just use EUID cuz since you have bash you can guarantee it'll be set, no fallback needed, and EUID is what's relevant to being able to do root stuff
2020-01-29T21:26:39 #kisslinux <dzove855> yeah, actually i will remove find and sed (for grep not sure yet)
2020-01-29T21:26:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> klay: Tried a different keyserver?
2020-01-29T21:26:58 #kisslinux <dzove855> E5ten: dind't know for EUID, i will have a look. Thanks :D
2020-01-29T21:27:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> klay: I just tried your exact command in a chroot and it worked without a single issue
2020-01-29T21:28:02 #kisslinux <dzove855> E5ten: aah i see, will replace it
2020-01-29T21:29:35 #kisslinux <klay> dylanaraps:Nope, not tried.  N.B. I tested this on my GNU/Debian wit GnuPG 2.  Should not I use this outside KISS?
2020-01-29T21:30:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> klay: Nothing about it is KISS specific. I don't see why not.
2020-01-29T21:30:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's a regular key I set up. Nothing special about it.
2020-01-29T21:31:50 #kisslinux <klay> Tried with a different keyserver, the same
2020-01-29T21:32:03 #kisslinux <klay> I'm interested in 'new key but contains no user ID - skipped'
2020-01-29T21:33:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That usually appears when the keyserver has an owner approval system which strips user IDs unless the owner has allowed them to be published
2020-01-29T21:33:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> keys.openpgp.org is an example server which does this
2020-01-29T21:33:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not sure about the GNU one
2020-01-29T21:35:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> klay: Try Ubuntu's keyserver: --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com
2020-01-29T21:36:05 #kisslinux <konimex> I don't know about that site but isn't pgp keys usually "synced" across keyservers? I know sks-keyservers, pgp.mit.edu, and keys.gnupg.net do sync their data
2020-01-29T21:36:16 #kisslinux <klay> Ah!
2020-01-29T21:36:20 #kisslinux <klay> 'signatures using the SHA1 algorithm are rejected'
2020-01-29T21:36:29 #kisslinux <klay> It's related to my config
2020-01-29T21:36:54 #kisslinux <klay> I not trust sha1 :-P
2020-01-29T21:37:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Turns out GPG chose to use it when I made my key a while ago
2020-01-29T21:38:34 #kisslinux <konimex> gpg2 should default to sha256 iirc
2020-01-29T21:38:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh, the default configuration still uses it
2020-01-29T21:39:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Was still default in 2017~ https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2017-February/057808.html
2020-01-29T21:39:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Disabling SHA1 today utterly breaks the current web-of-trust
2020-01-29T21:40:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > We're going to need to spend _years_ re-issuing signatures with a
2020-01-29T21:40:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps>    newer hash algorithm before we can safely disable SHA1 without
2020-01-29T21:40:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps>    totally destroying WoT (unless a crypto break does appear and we have
2020-01-29T21:40:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps>    to disable it for the other kind of safety)
2020-01-29T21:40:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Interesting
2020-01-29T21:40:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > To be fair, we should have been *deprecating* SHA1 many years ago (since
2020-01-29T21:40:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Wang et al in 2005).  we're late.  if we'd been deprecating it for years
2020-01-29T21:40:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> it would be easier to consider disabling it now.
2020-01-29T21:42:13 #kisslinux <klay> yeah, I read this and decided to re-configure my gpg a few years ago
2020-01-29T21:42:23 #kisslinux <klay> Juts forgot about this
2020-01-29T21:45:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The generation process says nothing about SHA1 in gpg1/2 :(
2020-01-29T21:48:44 #kisslinux <klay> consider using something like this in your config http://vpaste.net/cRLMG
2020-01-29T21:51:13 #kisslinux <klay> Okay, temporary disabled 'weak-digest SHA1' to add the key :)
2020-01-29T21:52:36 #kisslinux <konimex> say, does gpg1 support ed25519?
2020-01-29T21:52:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Apologies
2020-01-29T21:52:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :-)
2020-01-29T21:52:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: Yes
2020-01-29T21:53:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hang on
2020-01-29T21:55:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nope
2020-01-29T22:22:42 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> howdy]
2020-01-29T22:26:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sello
2020-01-29T22:26:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ello*
2020-01-29T23:08:59 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> leggo my eggo's.
2020-01-29T23:24:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> I enjoy the idea behind this 💋 update
2020-01-29T23:37:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :P
2020-01-29T23:37:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/lz0e
2020-01-29T23:39:56 #kisslinux <konimex> incoming "why not write it in rust?"
2020-01-29T23:42:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> heh
2020-01-29T23:43:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm going to do this with as little dependencies as possible.
2020-01-29T23:43:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or try to..
2020-01-29T23:43:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's a lot of work in C
2020-01-29T23:44:19 #kisslinux <monochromal> wo
2020-01-29T23:44:24 #kisslinux <monochromal> ncurses conflicts with itself
2020-01-29T23:44:27 #kisslinux <konimex> as long as it works with both gcc and clang it's fine to me
2020-01-29T23:44:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> monochromal: ?!?!?
2020-01-29T23:44:54 #kisslinux <monochromal> `/usr/bin/clear`
2020-01-29T23:44:58 #kisslinux <monochromal> `/usr/bin/reset`
2020-01-29T23:45:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> busybox also provides those
2020-01-29T23:45:19 #kisslinux <monochromal> it says ncurses on both
2020-01-29T23:45:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Send me the command output?
2020-01-29T23:46:12 #kisslinux <monochromal> ~ $ kiss a
2020-01-29T23:46:15 #kisslinux <monochromal> -> Alternatives:
2020-01-29T23:46:26 #kisslinux <monochromal> ncurses /usr/bin/clear
2020-01-29T23:46:29 #kisslinux <monochromal> ncurses /usr/bin/reset
2020-01-29T23:46:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh
2020-01-29T23:46:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I get it
2020-01-29T23:46:55 #kisslinux <konimex> what does /usr/bin/clear currently point to?
2020-01-29T23:47:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That basically says "ncurses also provides /usr/bin/clear"
2020-01-29T23:47:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> See: https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss#alternatives-system
2020-01-29T23:50:30 #kisslinux <monochromal> both also links to busybox
2020-01-29T23:50:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's fine
2020-01-29T23:50:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> See the link I posted
2020-01-29T23:52:20 #kisslinux <monochromal> could it be also okay if `kiss a` lists what's currently being used?
2020-01-29T23:53:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Sure
2020-01-29T23:53:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will push an update tomorrow
2020-01-29T23:54:29 #kisslinux <monochromal> holy thanks : D
2020-01-29T23:55:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'd rather not as the output of 'kiss a' should be the exact input needed for 'kiss a' but I can hack round this with some /dev/stderr magic
2020-01-29T23:55:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You should know what you're swapping as it never happens automatically
2020-01-29T23:56:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Anyway, I'm off to bed