2021-01-31T00:56:03 #kisslinux <astier> Hello everyone. Is dylan alright? I couldn't find any sign of life from him on the internet since the 27.11.2020. I checked his website, reddit, GitHub, git-mirrors. He stopped suddenly on the 27.11.2020 to push commits on any of his repos wheres as before he would work almost daily. I am just a little bit worried that something happened to him.
2021-01-31T00:56:03 #kisslinux <astier> Does somebody know if dylan is still alive and healthy?
2021-01-31T01:01:35 #kisslinux <astier> I tried to send him an email but I get an error-mail in return. <dylan⊙ko>: Recipient address rejected: Mailbox quota exceeded (in
2021-01-31T01:01:35 #kisslinux <astier>     reply to RCPT TO command) I think his mailbox is full.
2021-01-31T04:27:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://youtube.com/watch?v=8JOD1AQGqEg
2021-01-31T04:27:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> really cool video you guys'll like
2021-01-31T04:28:33 #kisslinux <sad_plan> astier: no, noones heard a word since then. So your guess is as good as ours
2021-01-31T04:28:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> are we talking about dylan?
2021-01-31T04:28:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've got no logs
2021-01-31T04:29:09 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Yes, its about Dylan
2021-01-31T04:29:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah I just pulled up the freenode logs in a spare browser tab that I forgot I had open
2021-01-31T04:29:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> regarding the email thing he's either exceeded his email quota (unlikely) or he's not paying his protonmail bills
2021-01-31T04:30:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> if it's the latter I think we have reason to worry
2021-01-31T04:32:19 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Yeah, I came to think of something, when you run a website, you obviously have to pay for it. So you rent a vps, how long are those usually rented at single payments? A year? 6 months? I mean, if the correct amount of time goes by, and he doesnt pay his bills, his website should eventjally go dowb aswell right?
2021-01-31T04:32:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> apparently it's hosted on github
2021-01-31T04:32:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> so no
2021-01-31T04:32:39 #kisslinux <midfavila> but that's what I was thinking of the other day too
2021-01-31T04:33:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> honestly the more everyone here looks into it the more worried I become that something's happened to him
2021-01-31T04:34:02 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Ah, I see. Clever. So website is never going to go down then. I just thought if his website were to go down, that wouldnt be good news..
2021-01-31T04:34:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> Mmh.
2021-01-31T04:34:40 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Ye Ive never even talked to the guy, and Im even almost worrying about him :')
2021-01-31T04:34:53 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> k1ss.org is gonna expire on 14 feb
2021-01-31T04:34:58 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> the domain
2021-01-31T04:35:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, at least we'll know if he's quit the project by then
2021-01-31T04:35:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> should probably start making preparations to permanently take control of the project...
2021-01-31T04:36:51 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Thats just a couple of weeks from now
2021-01-31T04:37:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> still, if the domain isn't renewed, it's a clear indication that dylan can't continue for whatever reason
2021-01-31T04:37:49 #kisslinux <sad_plan> But yeah, I do belive we should atleast mske some plans on a takeover, so that thr project lives on. I love this project, even if it gives me a world of troubles on my laptop..
2021-01-31T04:37:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> especially when combined with the past few months' inactivity
2021-01-31T04:37:52 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Yep
2021-01-31T04:38:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> Although, for what it's worth, if it turns out that we need to take collective control of the project, we won't need to just jump in blindly. libre projects in the past have had to do similar things
2021-01-31T04:38:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> in particular sawfish would be a good example, I think
2021-01-31T04:39:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> where they went off and started their own wiki and mailing list and such
2021-01-31T04:39:19 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Yeah, and this project is inherently msde to be able to be maintainable by a single person aswell
2021-01-31T04:39:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, sure
2021-01-31T04:39:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> but it's nice to have a central hub for resources
2021-01-31T04:39:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> will have to scrap k1ss.org
2021-01-31T04:40:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> s/scrap/scrape/
2021-01-31T04:40:25 #kisslinux <kissbot> <midfavila> will have to scrape k1ss.org
2021-01-31T04:40:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> fuck
2021-01-31T04:41:42 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Yeah, that would be nice, but I do belive ee should stick to the projects principle, meaning not suddebly make it depend on even more people.
2021-01-31T04:42:00 #kisslinux <sad_plan> S/suddebly/suddenly
2021-01-31T04:42:15 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Oh so its case sensitive
2021-01-31T04:42:22 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> sad_plan: s/S/s
2021-01-31T04:42:37 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> Lol how do you correct someone else
2021-01-31T04:42:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, I don't mean to literally centralize it
2021-01-31T04:43:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> again if you look at sawfish their wiki is open for anyone to edit and it's not dependent on a particular person(s)
2021-01-31T04:43:25 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Lol
2021-01-31T04:43:30 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-01-31T04:43:40 #kisslinux <sad_plan> That nice though. Perhaps we should stick with the same idea?
2021-01-31T04:43:56 #kisslinux <sad_plan> How do you do that? The shrugging, and nodding
2021-01-31T04:44:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> use /me
2021-01-31T04:44:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> and yeah, that's what I'm suggesting
2021-01-31T04:44:59 #kisslinux <sad_plan> is there a list?
2021-01-31T04:45:06 #kisslinux <sad_plan> ok, cool
2021-01-31T04:45:08 #kisslinux <midfavila> no, you just /me and then whatever
2021-01-31T04:45:13 #kisslinux * midfavila does a thing
2021-01-31T04:46:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> is the [1...10] numeric expansion a bashism? i feel like it is
2021-01-31T04:47:37 #kisslinux * sad_plan does nothing
2021-01-31T04:48:14 #kisslinux <sad_plan> i dunno, dont know bash
2021-01-31T04:48:34 #kisslinux <sad_plan> but in python, numbering starts with 0. so 1 is 0 and 2 is 1 and so on
2021-01-31T04:49:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> python, blech :P
2021-01-31T05:02:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> okay took me a while to figure out how to get my shell to do it but all the news files have been scraped
2021-01-31T05:02:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> on to the wiki
2021-01-31T05:04:22 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> isnt everything on https://github.com/kisslinux/website/ already]
2021-01-31T05:05:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> so it is. durr
2021-01-31T05:05:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> my bad then
2021-01-31T07:48:52 #kisslinux <paniash> hello fellow kissers!
2021-01-31T07:50:03 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> hi
2021-01-31T08:03:41 #kisslinux <paniash> testuser[m]_: how's it going?
2021-01-31T08:12:54 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> fine, trying to cross compile
2021-01-31T10:43:20 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> should we get the new repos listed on repology?
2021-01-31T10:48:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> probably
2021-01-31T10:49:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> that reminds me, I need to rewrite my packages to conform with repology's standards...
2021-01-31T12:54:38 #kisslinux <sad_plan> whats this repology your talking about? Ive seen it being mention before..
2021-01-31T12:57:52 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> repology.org it tracks repos of various distros, you can see the full package list and filter stuff like getting only outdated packages from a particular repo
2021-01-31T12:59:47 #kisslinux <sad_plan> nice.
2021-01-31T14:00:46 #kisslinux <jedavies> testuser[m]_: how's it going with cross compiling? Been working on that also recently.
2021-01-31T14:17:05 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> jedavies I initially tried it with glasnost (x86) itself to build stuff for aarch64, but for some reason the binaries were not being produced for aarch for some reason, probably needed more setup ? (had exported KISS_ROOT where /etc/os-arch is aarch64)
2021-01-31T14:17:06 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> So i used a normal KISS rootfs, got a cross toolchain (gnu) from musl.cc, and been compiling with a slightly modified glasnost repo
2021-01-31T14:23:25 #kisslinux <jedavies> Interesting! I've got as far as cross building everything up to xorg-server, but when I try running X on the target system it segfaults.
2021-01-31T14:23:55 #kisslinux <jedavies> Not producing a core dump either for some reason :/
2021-01-31T14:24:47 #kisslinux <jedavies> Have modified build files for most of extra/ and xorg/ in the "crossbuild" branch in glasnost if you want to steal them.
2021-01-31T14:25:00 #kisslinux <jedavies> Looks like it's still a work in progress though
2021-01-31T14:26:09 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> nice! probably won't be needing it though, was just bored and thought of running KISS on my phone in a chroot :p
2021-01-31T14:36:15 #kisslinux <jedavies> I want to run KISS on my phone as the main OS, and to be able to plug it into the docking station and use it like a desktop machine with screen/keyboard/mouse etc.
2021-01-31T15:38:38 #kisslinux <konimex> that would be nice, but would the mainline kernel support the hardware though? or you'll still need blobs for that?
2021-01-31T15:42:42 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> you'd definitely need a pinephone or something to install KISS, ubuntu touch has been ported to some "normal" phones (ubports) but the experience is subpar and you'd need a ton of work to port another distro
2021-01-31T16:56:22 #kisslinux <jedavies> Yeah I'm testing with the pinephone. It can run mainline kernel now. Blob still required for wifi firmware though.
2021-01-31T17:41:38 #kisslinux <jared> test
2021-01-31T17:41:46 #kisslinux <jared> hi.
2021-01-31T18:17:34 #kisslinux <aarng> https://gist.github.com/aaronNGi/b9331cb708425f468c22fe43b5878c85
2021-01-31T18:17:46 #kisslinux <aarng> thought maybe someone has a use for this
2021-01-31T19:02:43 #kisslinux <tracer> Just short greets. I house my gcc :-) but was not able to fix it this day, my ne fibre is now stable at 200/100 but I still don't get IPv6 running. When that is finished I'll be back into KISS.
2021-01-31T19:09:41 #kisslinux <tracer> OMG, what happened to Konqi? Looks like a Pokemon now :-(
2021-01-31T19:36:21 #kisslinux <cgronohe[m]> hello
2021-01-31T19:36:27 #kisslinux <cgronohe[m]> where is Dylan?
2021-01-31T19:36:33 #kisslinux <cgronohe[m]> why is he MIA ?
2021-01-31T19:37:17 #kisslinux <cgronohe[m]> i fear something bad happened to him and i wish not.
2021-01-31T19:50:29 #kisslinux <kaicyt> I asked the same yesterday. No sign of him for ~7 weeks or so.
2021-01-31T22:37:36 #kisslinux <aosync> Hi
2021-01-31T22:40:10 #kisslinux <aosync> After some digging, i've found that Dylan was active on the unixporn discord server just before he went missing
2021-01-31T22:40:48 #kisslinux <aosync> under the name of spanishguy#3611
2021-01-31T22:43:20 #kisslinux <aosync> I can find messages from him up to the 25th of November, it seems
2021-01-31T22:52:04 #kisslinux <aosync> by scrolling a bit i have found one from the 26th
2021-01-31T23:51:26 #kisslinux <ii> hi everyone
2021-01-31T23:52:44 #kisslinux <ii> hi everyone
2021-01-31T23:55:27 #kisslinux <ii> this is a test used ii client
2021-01-31T23:58:15 #kisslinux <ii> this test it's writing in kiss linux