2021-03-29T00:18:24 #kisslinux I wonder if the FSF has a statement on this 2021-03-29T00:36:32 #kisslinux gtg, bye! 2021-03-29T01:32:26 #kisslinux Hello world 2021-03-29T01:41:17 #kisslinux hi AndroUser 2021-03-29T01:42:05 #kisslinux ehlo 2021-03-29T01:43:16 #kisslinux Hallo 2021-03-29T05:43:04 #kisslinux hi 2021-03-29T05:55:56 #kisslinux helo 2021-03-29T08:24:48 #kisslinux hola. 2021-03-29T08:33:23 #kisslinux hola 2021-03-29T15:22:20 #kisslinux Something something 2021-03-29T15:22:21 #kisslinux https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/113838 2021-03-29T15:22:24 #kisslinux Php bad 2021-03-29T15:25:57 #kisslinux i can assure you that this wouldn't happen to a glorious self hosted kiss git repo 2021-03-29T15:26:36 #kisslinux new song, word! 2021-03-29T15:44:40 #kisslinux The albatross of KISS is Dylan's guiding spirit manifesting itself within dilynm 2021-03-29T15:53:01 #kisslinux kekw 2021-03-29T15:56:52 #kisslinux Hey everyone -- it's bin a minute. How are things? 2021-03-29T15:56:58 #kisslinux been* wew 2021-03-29T15:59:15 #kisslinux good 2021-03-29T16:00:04 #kisslinux Cool. Anyone heard from Dylan? 2021-03-29T16:00:11 #kisslinux Miss that dude. 2021-03-29T16:01:07 #kisslinux nope 2021-03-29T16:02:51 #kisslinux Damn. 2021-03-29T16:04:18 #kisslinux Hey icy 2021-03-29T16:04:30 #kisslinux I see you lost your tail 2021-03-29T16:04:34 #kisslinux Yo kiedtl, how's it going? 2021-03-29T16:04:38 #kisslinux My tail? 2021-03-29T16:04:45 #kisslinux phox 2021-03-29T16:04:47 #kisslinux phox 2021-03-29T16:04:47 #kisslinux lol 2021-03-29T16:05:11 #kisslinux Yeah I stopped using that wherever I can. 'icy' is small and clean. 2021-03-29T16:05:22 #kisslinux Even managed to snag 'icy' on HN. 2021-03-29T16:05:25 #kisslinux nm, cleaning up backyard. Still not done despite three trips to the local junkyard with a rented 7x14 trailer. 2021-03-29T16:05:48 #kisslinux testuser_[m]: Do I know you? 2021-03-29T16:05:52 #kisslinux getting a three-letter username on HN is quite a feat 2021-03-29T16:06:06 #kisslinux Too bad someone grabbed all the 3l ones on reddit 2021-03-29T16:06:09 #kisslinux Yup. Lucky for me, it was dead. No activity. 2021-03-29T16:06:25 #kisslinux icy: no 2021-03-29T16:06:26 #kisslinux Wrote to dang, and he gave it to me. Hue. 2021-03-29T16:06:39 #kisslinux testuser_[m]: How do you know that I'm icyphox then? lol 2021-03-29T16:06:42 #kisslinux Oh, so one can grab dead accounts? Maybe I'll be able to recover my 'kiedtl' username wew 2021-03-29T16:06:55 #kisslinux You can, email dang@ 2021-03-29T16:07:02 #kisslinux nice, thanks 2021-03-29T16:07:14 #kisslinux I had created the account and loss the pass before I set an email lol 2021-03-29T16:07:19 #kisslinux s/loss/lost 2021-03-29T16:07:20 #kisslinux I had created the account and lost the pass before I set an email lol 2021-03-29T16:07:23 #kisslinux Heh. 2021-03-29T16:07:31 #kisslinux i saw your name in the logs months back, that's where i remember it from 2021-03-29T16:07:38 #kisslinux Ah I see. 2021-03-29T16:08:10 #kisslinux kiedtl: Are you on KISS at the moment? 2021-03-29T16:08:46 #kisslinux someone else saw dylan's github pic change march 26? 2021-03-29T16:09:22 #kisslinux Hey icy! 2021-03-29T16:09:27 #kisslinux I don't think it changed... 2021-03-29T16:09:29 #kisslinux M4R10zM0113R: did it? 2021-03-29T16:09:32 #kisslinux it looks the same to me 2021-03-29T16:09:52 #kisslinux It didn't? I've been checking his account pretty frequently. 2021-03-29T16:09:59 #kisslinux ^^ 2021-03-29T16:10:05 #kisslinux yeah 2021-03-29T16:10:12 #kisslinux its the same 2021-03-29T16:10:26 #kisslinux Hey dilynm! Good work keeping this thing alive mate. 2021-03-29T16:10:52 #kisslinux icy: I am, sadly, not using kiss at the moment (I'm on armv6 and building pkgs on a raspi are way too slow), but I did use kiss at one point before my hdd died :V 2021-03-29T16:11:04 #kisslinux :gasp: 2021-03-29T16:11:05 #kisslinux Ah, I see. 2021-03-29T16:11:24 #kisslinux I haven't used KISS in more than a year now. OpenBSD is endgame for me. :^) 2021-03-29T16:11:53 #kisslinux its exactly the same avatar, even the url matches https://web.archive.org/web/20210303231032/github.com/dylanaraps 2021-03-29T16:11:57 #kisslinux Been running OpenBSD since 6.6, on 6.9-current, right now. 2021-03-29T16:12:38 #kisslinux I was thinking of sliding obsd onto my macbook pro but I think I have to go with freebsd unless I want to buy a wifi dongle 2021-03-29T16:12:53 #kisslinux Rough. 2021-03-29T16:13:06 #kisslinux Thanfully, all my hardware is supported perfectly OOTB. 2021-03-29T16:13:08 #kisslinux openbsd is comfy 2021-03-29T16:13:15 #kisslinux but I can't get over boot speed 2021-03-29T16:13:19 #kisslinux and browser performance 2021-03-29T16:13:38 #kisslinux Yeah, the browser is a pain-point, for sure. 2021-03-29T16:13:45 #kisslinux Really sucks for video conferencing. 2021-03-29T16:13:54 #kisslinux what's wrong with browsers on obsd ? 2021-03-29T16:14:02 #kisslinux Casual browsing is agreeable. Not the fastest, but it works alright. 2021-03-29T16:14:05 #kisslinux javascript is just slow af 2021-03-29T16:15:38 #kisslinux Fantastic OS though. 2021-03-29T16:15:51 #kisslinux Barring performance, everything justwerks. 2021-03-29T16:16:00 #kisslinux yeah, the filesystem hierachy is nice too 2021-03-29T16:16:05 #kisslinux makes you realize how bad linux is, lol 2021-03-29T16:16:11 #kisslinux 100%! 2021-03-29T16:16:18 #kisslinux I don't think I can go back to using Linux. 2021-03-29T16:16:25 #kisslinux Not that I need to. 2021-03-29T16:16:47 #kisslinux I planning to buy a notebook, still not sure if I will put openbsd or kiss on iot 2021-03-29T16:16:49 #kisslinux it* 2021-03-29T16:17:19 #kisslinux If you plan to run OpenBSD, check for hardware compat beforehand. 2021-03-29T16:17:39 #kisslinux yep, will do 2021-03-29T16:18:56 #kisslinux I also like the *.local configs for changing the standard configs 2021-03-29T16:18:59 #kisslinux it's a nice system 2021-03-29T16:25:25 #kisslinux wanted to verify cuz someone claimed that his pfp changed 2021-03-29T16:26:12 #kisslinux I have obsd on an old thinkpad, in the little bit that I have used it its really nice 2021-03-29T16:26:34 #kisslinux although I still haven't really learned the obsd way of doing things 2021-03-29T16:27:08 #kisslinux I very frequently try and diagnose things in a linux way, especially networking, only to find that it doesn't work 2021-03-29T16:41:45 #kisslinux i've actually never run openBSD before 2021-03-29T16:41:54 #kisslinux only dBSD and nBSD 2021-03-29T17:04:21 #kisslinux What's up with the strange zfs hierarchies I see? 2021-03-29T17:04:39 #kisslinux Like zroot/root/default is a recommended... Root pool? Why not just... Zroot? 2021-03-29T17:40:34 #kisslinux KISS was created because Dylan realized OpenBSD didn't work on his hardware :^) 2021-03-29T17:54:35 #kisslinux icy: I remember you were complaining they dont "debloat" the packages :x . I tried to build some packages with kiss. Mpv and friends are working. Webkit still not. 2021-03-29T17:54:53 #kisslinux If you are interested https://github.com/sdsddsd1/potpourri 2021-03-29T18:36:38 #kisslinux Dylan did this a while back and it's a super cute idea https://github.com/mirror/busybox/blob/master/docs/embedded-scripts.txt 2021-03-29T18:36:44 #kisslinux Probably only 400kb I reckon 2021-03-29T18:37:43 #kisslinux "hush"? 2021-03-29T18:38:19 #kisslinux ? 2021-03-29T18:40:10 #kisslinux It talks about needing a shell, either ash or hush 2021-03-29T18:40:15 #kisslinux I've never heard of hush. 2021-03-29T18:40:20 #kisslinux Probably should have been clearer, sorry. 2021-03-29T18:43:41 #kisslinux Ah! Right 2021-03-29T18:43:51 #kisslinux I read it a week ago I had forgotten most of it lol 2021-03-29T18:44:24 #kisslinux It couldn't possibly mean this right 2021-03-29T18:44:25 #kisslinux https://github.com/onionjake/hush 2021-03-29T18:45:07 #kisslinux Maybe it means this also absurd shell 2021-03-29T18:45:08 #kisslinux https://www.barebox.org/doc/latest/user/hush.html 2021-03-29T18:46:40 #kisslinux Hush is probably a busybox option 2021-03-29T18:46:46 #kisslinux hush is a busybox shell iirc 2021-03-29T18:47:03 #kisslinux it's supposed to be a bit more featureful than ash 2021-03-29T20:18:17 #kisslinux since I deleted my Reddit account, the thing that's hurt me the most is not being able to correct people who call Arch a minimal distro 2021-03-29T20:21:11 #kisslinux ah, but consider the following 2021-03-29T20:21:19 #kisslinux you no longer have to deal with constant redditor spam 2021-03-29T20:21:51 #kisslinux what spam? 2021-03-29T20:23:52 #kisslinux presumably the horde of DWM-using r/unixporn-posting Arch users 2021-03-29T20:30:01 #kisslinux don't forget Nord colorscheme 2021-03-29T20:30:53 #kisslinux ahem testuser_[m] 2021-03-29T20:32:03 #kisslinux this is a nord pro chat, ominous_anonymou 2021-03-29T20:32:14 #kisslinux respect my rights to a series of bytes 2021-03-29T20:32:17 #kisslinux no 2021-03-29T20:32:18 #kisslinux now give me twenty dollars 2021-03-29T20:32:19 #kisslinux nord bad 2021-03-29T20:32:27 #kisslinux dark themes bad 2021-03-29T20:32:32 #kisslinux bruh 2021-03-29T20:32:35 #kisslinux i will agree that most dark themes are cringe 2021-03-29T20:32:35 #kisslinux what do you use? 2021-03-29T20:32:47 #kisslinux light themes, obviously >=| 2021-03-29T20:32:50 #kisslinux limiting yourself to only dark colors results in very boring UIs 2021-03-29T20:33:00 #kisslinux this is coming from someone whose UI is predominantly grey 2021-03-29T20:33:01 #kisslinux you can have bright colors on a dark theme 2021-03-29T20:33:09 #kisslinux ^^ 2021-03-29T20:33:18 #kisslinux only the background is dark 2021-03-29T20:33:21 #kisslinux okay, sorry, I should have been more pedantic about it 2021-03-29T20:33:30 #kisslinux *mostly* dark colors 2021-03-29T20:33:37 #kisslinux look at my IRC window for example 2021-03-29T20:33:45 #kisslinux https://i.imgur.com/kNZvb4Z.jpg 2021-03-29T20:34:00 #kisslinux dark theme, but still pretty bright 2021-03-29T20:34:05 #kisslinux I prefer light themes because science proves they're easier on the eyes. If you don't like light themes, you're against science, obviously 2021-03-29T20:34:09 #kisslinux Vibrant night colorscheme is best colorscheme 2021-03-29T20:34:22 #kisslinux I cringe so hard when someone on r/archlinux calls arch minimal 2021-03-29T20:34:28 #kisslinux will stick with my GEM scheme 2021-03-29T20:34:45 #kisslinux kiedtl: idk, my psuedoscience tells me less light hitting my eyes is better 2021-03-29T20:34:54 #kisslinux something something backlights 2021-03-29T20:34:58 #kisslinux ^^ 2021-03-29T20:35:00 #kisslinux something something oled screen 2021-03-29T20:35:05 #kisslinux Also turn on the goddamn room light 2021-03-29T20:35:07 #kisslinux use a CRT, shill 2021-03-29T20:35:11 #kisslinux and open the fucking curtain lol 2021-03-29T20:35:17 #kisslinux also this 2021-03-29T20:35:22 #kisslinux get some sunlight 2021-03-29T20:35:24 #kisslinux literally go outside 2021-03-29T20:35:27 #kisslinux stop posting in #kisslinux 2021-03-29T20:35:29 #kisslinux what now? 2021-03-29T20:35:29 #kisslinux and do it rn 2021-03-29T20:35:33 #kisslinux yes now 2021-03-29T20:35:42 #kisslinux lol 2021-03-29T20:35:46 #kisslinux Directions unclear, stared directly at sun 2021-03-29T20:35:49 #kisslinux Now am blind 2021-03-29T20:35:58 #kisslinux science says bright things are better for you 2021-03-29T20:35:58 #kisslinux Thanks anon 2021-03-29T20:36:04 #kisslinux At least the weather here isn't that great, I get to stay here rite? 2021-03-29T20:36:07 #kisslinux no 2021-03-29T20:36:17 #kisslinux Why not? 2021-03-29T20:36:22 #kisslinux #kisslinux will communicate using smoke signals now 2021-03-29T20:36:26 #kisslinux because I say so 2021-03-29T20:36:29 #kisslinux and so does science 2021-03-29T20:36:32 #kisslinux dilynm: summon an east wind pls 2021-03-29T20:36:54 #kisslinux *blows* 2021-03-29T20:36:58 #kisslinux no more http, just copying bit by bit from smoke signals 2021-03-29T20:37:18 #kisslinux No more JS 2021-03-29T20:37:18 #kisslinux You've heard of sneaker net, but have you heard of smokesignal net 2021-03-29T20:37:24 #kisslinux fucking based 2021-03-29T20:37:35 #kisslinux Bitrot is just clouds getting in the way 2021-03-29T20:38:04 #kisslinux or dilynm's east wind >=) 2021-03-29T20:38:07 #kisslinux Your transfer speed is limited only by your astigmatism and writing speed 2021-03-29T20:38:18 #kisslinux Guess I wond be able to transfer then 2021-03-29T20:38:18 #kisslinux Weast wind 2021-03-29T20:39:06 #kisslinux beast wind 2021-03-29T20:39:14 #kisslinux yeast wind 2021-03-29T20:39:19 #kisslinux no wait- 2021-03-29T20:39:51 #kisslinux we are breadpunk now 2021-03-29T20:44:26 #kisslinux s/KISS Linux/bread linoox/ 2021-03-29T20:45:03 #kisslinux KISS on MINIX when 2021-03-29T20:46:04 #kisslinux ...wait why is my laptop connected 2021-03-29T20:46:07 #kisslinux go away midfavila1 2021-03-29T20:47:11 #kisslinux I'm hesitant to believe that root=ZFS=zpool/root/KISS will be the magic bullet for this boot entry but my job we're gonna try 2021-03-29T20:48:09 #kisslinux the zoomer filesystem is cringe 2021-03-29T20:48:16 #kisslinux use based HAMMER2 2021-03-29T20:49:16 #kisslinux I hear btrfs is nice 2021-03-29T20:49:27 #kisslinux But what do I know, I've used neither zfs nor btrfs 2021-03-29T20:53:18 #kisslinux btrfs is fine 2021-03-29T20:53:31 #kisslinux Except for the part where it eats your data sometimes 2021-03-29T20:53:42 #kisslinux that doesn't really happen lmao 2021-03-29T20:53:57 #kisslinux i used it for three and a half years straight as my primary filesystem and never lost any data 2021-03-29T20:54:10 #kisslinux even through consecutive power losses 2021-03-29T20:54:11 #kisslinux "works on my machine!" 2021-03-29T20:54:29 #kisslinux I said sometimes lad 2021-03-29T20:54:36 #kisslinux HAMMER2 is kinda cool ngl 2021-03-29T20:54:53 #kisslinux i've literally never met a single person who's had data eaten by btrfs 2021-03-29T20:54:54 #kisslinux RAID5 still doesn't 'work' (unfinished) afaik 2021-03-29T20:55:01 #kisslinux raid5 sucks 2021-03-29T20:55:05 #kisslinux raid10 ftw 2021-03-29T20:55:09 #kisslinux But otherwise, it's probably good enough to use over ext4 in basically every case 2021-03-29T20:55:15 #kisslinux >he doesn't use raid01 2021-03-29T20:55:27 #kisslinux oh, acheam, my sweet summer child 2021-03-29T20:55:33 #kisslinux Hardware raid because I like to live on the edge 2021-03-29T20:57:54 #kisslinux raid 01 2021-03-29T20:57:55 #kisslinux why 2021-03-29T20:57:57 #kisslinux no 2021-03-29T20:58:01 #kisslinux who did this to you 2021-03-29T20:58:07 #kisslinux comptia 2021-03-29T20:58:09 #kisslinux and my college 2021-03-29T21:01:22 #kisslinux kind of annoying that adobe has outright blocked flash content from running in flash player 2021-03-29T21:01:31 #kisslinux i understand killing it off from the web but let me run it locally at least 2021-03-29T21:06:18 #kisslinux pepperflash? 2021-03-29T21:06:20 #kisslinux They only let you run flash because of their overwhelming benevolence, pleb 2021-03-29T21:06:37 #kisslinux i'd use the GNU flash implementation but it's bad 2021-03-29T21:06:58 #kisslinux Does anyone know if Nick on https://k1sslinux.org/screenshots has more screenshots posted somewhere else? 2021-03-29T21:08:08 #kisslinux Maybe on unixporn? Unsure 2021-03-29T21:08:10 #kisslinux i've never heard of that person before 2021-03-29T21:08:14 #kisslinux I think he emailed Dylan those... 2021-03-29T21:09:18 #kisslinux they're username isn't on reddit and the github user with that name seens unrelated 2021-03-29T21:13:47 #kisslinux so here's a question for you guys 2021-03-29T21:14:20 #kisslinux only tangentially related to tech but have you ever willingly gone without internet access at your house? i'm considering cutting my connection and just going to the library or something 2021-03-29T21:14:41 #kisslinux wow doing the big luke smith eh 2021-03-29T21:14:53 #kisslinux have never, and probably will never 2021-03-29T21:14:56 #kisslinux i wanted to do the luke smith thing before luke smith even had a youtube channel 2021-03-29T21:14:59 #kisslinux unironically 2021-03-29T21:15:06 #kisslinux although I respect people who can 2021-03-29T21:15:12 #kisslinux well for me it's like 2021-03-29T21:15:27 #kisslinux the more I actually analyze what I use the internet at my house for, the more I realize it's for pointless shit 2021-03-29T21:16:13 #kisslinux sure, sometimes it's for pulling documentation or source code, and that's valid, and chatting with people and media is okay once in a while, but I end up just watching videos all day 2021-03-29T21:18:41 #kisslinux yeah I get that 2021-03-29T21:19:00 #kisslinux not to mention that I have unlimited data on my phone *anyway*, even if it is limited to 128kbps 2021-03-29T21:19:08 #kisslinux 128kbps... 2021-03-29T21:19:11 #kisslinux so email and docs and light browsing is fine 2021-03-29T21:19:14 #kisslinux oh dude that's nothing 2021-03-29T21:19:22 #kisslinux what kind of plan is that? 2021-03-29T21:19:36 #kisslinux the plan of a penny-pincher forced to spend money 2021-03-29T21:19:46 #kisslinux originally I was paying 15 but I needed calling 2021-03-29T21:19:54 #kisslinux fucking normies 2021-03-29T21:19:59 #kisslinux but actually, what do they call a plan like that 2021-03-29T21:20:09 #kisslinux because I wouldn't mind something like that 2021-03-29T21:20:09 #kisslinux "budget" or "economy" 2021-03-29T21:20:13 #kisslinux and not home internet 2021-03-29T21:20:16 #kisslinux mine is registered with lucky mobile 2021-03-29T21:20:30 #kisslinux it's like 512mb a month at 4g speeds and then it's throttled 2021-03-29T21:20:45 #kisslinux plus unlimited global texting and multi-media messages, and unlimited canada-wide calling 2021-03-29T21:20:50 #kisslinux it's not a bad deal 2021-03-29T21:21:09 #kisslinux yeah 2021-03-29T21:21:15 #kisslinux ah got it 2021-03-29T21:21:29 #kisslinux I didn't get that it would be limited data at 4g speed 2021-03-29T21:21:47 #kisslinux it's limited full-speed and then it drops you down to lower speeds 2021-03-29T21:21:51 #kisslinux yeah I could do something like that for sure 2021-03-29T21:21:52 #kisslinux but they don't charge you for usage 2021-03-29T21:21:58 #kisslinux hmm 2021-03-29T21:22:11 #kisslinux it's perfectly suitable for light browsing, comms, etc 2021-03-29T21:22:22 #kisslinux the only thing I wouldn't recommend is watching high-res video 2021-03-29T21:22:26 #kisslinux ...obviously. 2021-03-29T21:23:21 #kisslinux I had no internet at my home for 3 months. It was fine 2021-03-29T21:23:42 #kisslinux my only concern is that I'm an absolute NEET and have no hobbies outside of tech stuff 2021-03-29T21:23:49 #kisslinux I was working at starbucks so I spent a lot of time there off the clock for the larger downloads and such 2021-03-29T21:23:53 #kisslinux lets see, for $10/month I can get unlimited talk + text, and then data on top of that 2021-03-29T21:23:54 #kisslinux oh, fair 2021-03-29T21:24:06 #kisslinux starbucks' only good product is internet access lmao 2021-03-29T21:24:07 #kisslinux Find a good one, trust me. Especially with a bad wireless connection like you've got 2021-03-29T21:24:31 #kisslinux @ me or acheam? 2021-03-29T21:24:44 #kisslinux @u 2021-03-29T21:24:56 #kisslinux the janky wireless was on my desktop 2021-03-29T21:25:04 #kisslinux that's been wired into my router directly now 2021-03-29T21:25:17 #kisslinux laptop is fine 2021-03-29T21:25:20 #kisslinux ...actually wait 2021-03-29T21:25:22 #kisslinux megamind idea 2021-03-29T21:25:24 #kisslinux what if I just... 2021-03-29T21:25:33 #kisslinux ...installed a modem into my router? 2021-03-29T21:25:47 #kisslinux :thinking: 2021-03-29T21:25:54 #kisslinux funny, had the same idea yesterday 2021-03-29T21:26:05 #kisslinux if i'd cut the internet, i could actually get shit done 2021-03-29T21:26:13 #kisslinux instead of procastrinating all day long 2021-03-29T21:26:24 #kisslinux * midfavila nods 2021-03-29T21:27:27 #kisslinux honestly it's not even raw speed that matters, it's consistency 2021-03-29T21:27:28 #kisslinux Yeah but who needs that kind of pressure 2021-03-29T22:25:18 #kisslinux damn that part message is pretty annoying lol 2021-03-29T22:31:45 #kisslinux * midfavila lets out a long sigh 2021-03-29T22:31:55 #kisslinux I have a huge shelf on my desktop and no idea what to embed in it. 2021-03-29T22:32:16 #kisslinux ashtrays and beer cans 2021-03-29T22:32:18 #kisslinux I've already got resource monitors, shortcuts to all my crap, a pager, clock, and panel... 2021-03-29T22:32:45 #kisslinux how do you embed something into a shelf? 2021-03-29T22:32:55 #kisslinux fvwm has a function for it 2021-03-29T22:33:01 #kisslinux ohhh virtual desktop 2021-03-29T22:33:02 #kisslinux oh, you talk about *software* 2021-03-29T22:33:13 #kisslinux I thought you meant a literal desk top 2021-03-29T22:33:21 #kisslinux :v 2021-03-29T22:35:33 #kisslinux http://0x0.st/-bMh.png 2021-03-29T22:35:41 #kisslinux current setup 2021-03-29T22:36:12 #kisslinux the shelf is much less... bleeeeh-feeling on my laptop, because there's less space and... it just looks better I guess idk 2021-03-29T22:37:52 #kisslinux gotta adjust some stuff with fonts and shadows now that I look at it