[2021-12-03T05:27:36Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2021-12-03T10:23:00Z] <phoebos> https://github.com/bhk/scam
[2021-12-03T10:23:35Z] <phoebos> > a scheme implemented in GNU make
[2021-12-03T10:23:37Z] <phoebos> wow
[2021-12-03T10:24:38Z] <testuser[m]> Bruh
[2021-12-03T15:11:35Z] <phoebos> noocsharp: https://sourceforge.net/p/isync/mailman/message/37395245/
[2021-12-03T16:11:46Z] <noocsharp> thanks, will send patch
[2021-12-03T16:15:11Z] <noocsharp> i believe i also have several other outdated packages
[2021-12-03T16:23:49Z] <phoebos> :)
[2021-12-03T16:23:58Z] <testuser[m]> :(
[2021-12-03T16:24:32Z] <phoebos> i only pinged you bcs 1.4.4 fixes two CVEs
[2021-12-03T16:24:39Z] <phoebos> :p
[2021-12-03T16:25:32Z] <noocsharp> unfortunately dilyn hasn't applied the update  i send for mupdf a few days ago so not sure how soon he'll apply this one
[2021-12-03T16:26:26Z] <phoebos> dilyn: tut tut
[2021-12-03T20:39:33Z] <natris1979[m]> Holy cow. That lisp. I'll never understand why people torture themselves like that
[2021-12-03T21:30:40Z] <illiliti> https://github.com/golang/go/issues/49383
[2021-12-03T21:30:59Z] <illiliti> king is cancelled from now
[2021-12-03T21:34:33Z] <cem> illiliti: yeah, it's quite unfortunate that google owns go
[2021-12-03T21:35:13Z] <cem> requiring a google account for it is plain stupid
[2021-12-03T21:38:24Z] <phoebos> that is stupid
[2021-12-03T21:39:26Z] <phoebos> i wonder if vlang is any good
[2021-12-03T21:40:11Z] <phoebos> meant to be like go without gc
[2021-12-03T21:42:33Z] <phoebos> compiles to c
[2021-12-03T21:42:35Z] <phoebos> no cla
[2021-12-03T21:50:12Z] <illiliti> vlang is yet another vala with bad reputation
[2021-12-03T21:52:19Z] <illiliti> iirc, it is implemented gc recently
[2021-12-03T21:57:03Z] <phoebos> ugh
[2021-12-03T22:00:19Z] <noocsharp> my language has if/else now :v
[2021-12-03T22:00:35Z] <illiliti> xd
[2021-12-03T22:00:46Z] <illiliti> link?
[2021-12-03T22:01:51Z] <noocsharp> https://github.com/noocsharp/nooc
[2021-12-03T22:02:06Z] <noocsharp> i don't think it's even turing complete yet
[2021-12-03T22:07:32Z] <illiliti> looks simple and clean
[2021-12-03T22:11:25Z] <noocsharp> hopefully i can keep it that way as it grows
[2021-12-03T22:18:00Z] <illiliti> wow
[2021-12-03T22:18:03Z] <illiliti> zfs survived power outage with no data corruption
[2021-12-03T22:18:13Z] <illiliti> that's good
[2021-12-03T22:19:41Z] <illiliti> yes, i did zfs-on-root
[2021-12-03T22:20:18Z] <illiliti> zfs is the only way to get rid of lvm2
[2021-12-03T22:22:22Z] <akspecs> illiliti: do it again, jim!
[2021-12-03T22:26:06Z] <illiliti> i will!
[2021-12-03T22:26:15Z] <illiliti> btw, zfs+encryption is much faster than luks
[2021-12-03T22:26:54Z] <illiliti> zfs boots in 2-3s, while luks boots in 9s
[2021-12-03T22:27:14Z] <illiliti> i don't know why luks is so bad
[2021-12-03T22:30:20Z] <noocsharp> i should encrypt my laptop's disk again
[2021-12-03T22:30:30Z] <noocsharp> before i moved to kiss i had an arch install that was encrypted
[2021-12-03T22:37:48Z] <akspecs> has zfs native encryption ever gone up against an audit?
[2021-12-03T22:38:10Z] <akspecs> i imagine LUKS is tried, tested, reliable
[2021-12-03T22:39:09Z] <akspecs> one can make the argument, that since there some 3 letter agency influence in the development of zfs, they would implement some form of a backdoor -- label it a bugdoor the moment it's found out, and so on, and so forth
[2021-12-03T22:40:26Z] <illiliti> valid point
[2021-12-03T22:40:41Z] <noocsharp> you could make that argument about the linux kernel
[2021-12-03T22:41:14Z] <illiliti> luks is battle-tested and reliable, while zfs is still new
[2021-12-03T22:41:18Z] <illiliti> BUT
[2021-12-03T22:41:37Z] <illiliti> zfs is better maintained than lvm2
[2021-12-03T22:42:01Z] <illiliti> lvm2 contains shitton of legacy(and probably vulnerable) code
[2021-12-03T22:42:13Z] <illiliti> i rather trust zfs than lvm2
[2021-12-03T22:43:20Z] <illiliti> fyi: cryptsetup depends on lvm2
[2021-12-03T22:45:02Z] <akspecs> how about luks + zfs + something other + ???? = profit
[2021-12-03T22:45:07Z] <akspecs> or however the meme goes
[2021-12-03T22:45:16Z] <illiliti> too slow
[2021-12-03T22:45:42Z] <akspecs> apparently veracrypt underwent an audit, or whatever it was called prior
[2021-12-03T22:46:17Z] <akspecs> and the audit spoke favorably of it, despite the code being considered "outdated"
[2021-12-03T22:46:59Z] <akspecs> i imagine a good cypher may withstand time longer that most will appreciate depsite quantum computing and other advancements in tech
[2021-12-03T22:47:52Z] <akspecs> to this day, millions of dollars worth of super computers will take a looooooonnnngg time to break a good encryption