[2021-07-29T12:04:48Z] <riteo> well, I'll go for now, bye!
[2021-07-29T12:23:33Z] <omanom> Sweets has been busy: https://github.com/Sweets/sodium
[2021-07-29T12:27:15Z] <testuser[m]> nice
[2021-07-29T12:29:35Z] <dilyn> testuser: binutils being our chromium problem makes sense; ran into the same problem as you using a chroot 
[2021-07-29T12:29:44Z] <dilyn> llvm is yet again proven to be the superior option 
[2021-07-29T13:28:12Z] <testuser[m]> So bisect binutils / ask dylan to revert binutils / force chromium to use lld/clang ? :p
[2021-07-29T13:38:06Z] <dilyn> in that order :V 
[2021-07-29T17:00:57Z] <Guest76> Anybody know if https://git.2f30.org/scron/ Suckless Scron would work on runit?
[2021-07-29T17:03:03Z] <msk[m]> why not? I thought runit worked with any normal daemon?
[2021-07-29T17:10:16Z] <testuser[m]> Ofcourse, just "exec scron" or whatever in the run file
[2021-07-29T17:10:18Z] <testuser[m]> Guest76
[2021-07-29T17:12:29Z] <Guest76> Ok
[2021-07-29T17:12:33Z] <Guest76> git clone git@git.2f30.org/scron.git                                <
[2021-07-29T17:12:33Z] <Guest76> fatal: repository 'git@git.2f30.org/scron.git' does not 
[2021-07-29T17:12:41Z] <Guest76> ...exist
[2021-07-29T17:12:52Z] <Guest76> great going guys
[2021-07-29T17:13:20Z] <Guest76> It doesn't look like the repo is gonna be updated so ill just download the files manually
[2021-07-29T17:16:01Z] <acheam> send em an email
[2021-07-29T17:16:05Z] <Guest76> Arghhhhhhhhhhhh I can't just copy and paste the code because the static git site used copies the line numbers too
[2021-07-29T17:16:20Z] <testuser[m]> Try git://
[2021-07-29T17:16:25Z] <acheam> i tried it
[2021-07-29T17:16:27Z] <acheam> didnt work
[2021-07-29T17:16:28Z] <acheam> also tried http
[2021-07-29T17:17:04Z] <Guest76> Okay i will just copy and paste the code into new files and use vim to remove the line numbers
[2021-07-29T17:17:15Z] <Guest76> And send an email
[2021-07-29T17:17:58Z] <acheam> or you could just download a release tarball from here
[2021-07-29T17:17:59Z] <acheam> https://dl.2f30.org/releases/scron-0.4.tar.gz
[2021-07-29T17:18:10Z] <acheam> also let them know that the ssl cert is expired on dl.2f30.ogr
[2021-07-29T17:18:26Z] <Guest76> oh thanks
[2021-07-29T17:18:50Z] <acheam> you are welcome
[2021-07-29T17:27:50Z] <covidtested> hello there! is there a matrix channel of kiss linux? and if there is then what's its channel id/name?
[2021-07-29T17:30:12Z] <testuser[m]> It's bridged
[2021-07-29T17:31:03Z] <covidtested> then how to set it up?
[2021-07-29T17:32:14Z] <covidtested> im a noob at this so i hope not to get bullied.
[2021-07-29T17:35:02Z] <GalaxyNova> > Deploys self hosted sourcehut
[2021-07-29T17:35:15Z] <GalaxyNova> > CPU jumps to 100%
[2021-07-29T17:35:21Z] * GalaxyNova cries
[2021-07-29T17:36:26Z] <covidtested> *
[2021-07-29T17:37:55Z] <acheam> GalaxyNova: sourcehut is pretty lightweight
[2021-07-29T17:38:05Z] <acheam> might be some other issue if its causing that
[2021-07-29T17:42:50Z] <venerabzr[m]> seems like I got it working!
[2021-07-29T17:42:53Z] <testuser[m]> covidtested: pm @appservice-irc:libera.chat, register then message "!join #kisslinux"
[2021-07-29T17:42:55Z] <testuser[m]> Oh
[2021-07-29T17:42:56Z] <testuser[m]> Nice
[2021-07-29T17:44:24Z] <GalaxyNova> acheam: Apparently not lightweight enough for my singple core VPS
[2021-07-29T17:45:30Z] <slayr[m]> I wanted his helm, got his legs
[2021-07-29T17:47:08Z] <slayr[m]> I just want to know whether or not Matrix is compatible with kirc (irc client) or not
[2021-07-29T17:47:29Z] <slayr[m]> And if then which command would I have to use for connecting?
[2021-07-29T17:47:32Z] <GalaxyNova> also btw the kirc package in community is outdated
[2021-07-29T17:47:38Z] <GalaxyNova> for more than 30 days
[2021-07-29T17:47:44Z] <GalaxyNova> so i think it's up for adoption
[2021-07-29T17:48:50Z] <slayr[m]> Github is down so I can't tell you about the github one
[2021-07-29T17:48:57Z] <slayr[m]> But I did this from github
[2021-07-29T17:50:35Z] <slayr[m]> Hmm, git seems to be responding but not Github on my browser.
[2021-07-29T17:51:38Z] <slayr[m]> Anyways, what about matrix-cli?
[2021-07-29T17:55:12Z] <omanom> matrix-cli looks interesting
[2021-07-29T17:56:02Z] <omanom> i'm not aware of a way for kirc to be used... it's purely an irc client so it has zero knowledge of the Matrix protocol
[2021-07-29T17:56:21Z] <slayr[m]> I hope its not dependency bloat 
[2021-07-29T17:59:21Z] <omanom> i can't find a definitive list anywhere.  there's mention of systemd... if any systemd "component" is required then that's bloat
[2021-07-29T17:59:49Z] <slayr[m]> nodejs for soydevs
[2021-07-29T18:00:10Z] <omanom> looks like the mention was just if you wanted to set up a systemd service to run it
[2021-07-29T18:00:56Z] <slayr[m]> I don't think I would like to have a service running at boot or something because I definitely not like that
[2021-07-29T18:01:35Z] <acheam> GalaxyNova: it really doesn't rone that many backup taskss or anything
[2021-07-29T18:02:19Z] <slayr[m]> How can I avoid this curl error: curl: (18) transfer closed with 1229272 bytes remaining to read
[2021-07-29T18:02:41Z] <slayr[m]> It fails my build when the byte transfer hits 0 for ~15s
[2021-07-29T18:03:43Z] <omanom> looks like a networking issue, is there another source you can try?
[2021-07-29T18:05:12Z] <testuser[m]> slayr use gomuks
[2021-07-29T18:05:39Z] <slayr[m]> Hold on a min', trying a Japanese mirror
[2021-07-29T18:07:21Z] <slayr[m]> Since I'm on Wyverkiss, I don't have gomuks in my rep
[2021-07-29T18:08:24Z] <slayr[m]> seems noice, will give a try after testing matrix-cli first
[2021-07-29T18:08:43Z] <testuser[m]> https://git.git-bruh.duckdns.org/kiss-repo/file/repo/gomuks/build.html
[2021-07-29T18:09:36Z] <slayr[m]> Hold on, lemme check
[2021-07-29T18:10:17Z] <slayr[m]> Can you share to github link for the kiss-repo, because github doesn't seem to be working on my side.
[2021-07-29T18:10:25Z] <testuser[m]> Wat
[2021-07-29T18:10:33Z] <testuser[m]> github link since github is not working ?
[2021-07-29T18:10:37Z] <acheam> lol
[2021-07-29T18:10:56Z] <acheam> git://git.git-bruh.duckdns.org/kiss-repo.git works fine for me
[2021-07-29T18:11:02Z] <slayr[m]> no not for visiting
[2021-07-29T18:11:04Z] <slayr[m]> for cloning the repo
[2021-07-29T18:11:12Z] <slayr[m]> since i don't have it
[2021-07-29T18:11:14Z] <acheam> yeah i can clone it fine
[2021-07-29T18:11:25Z] <testuser[m]> The clone command is at the top of the page
[2021-07-29T18:13:26Z] <slayr[m]> OK, I'll check it in a min
[2021-07-29T18:15:31Z] <slayr[m]> Is the build compatible with LLVM/Cmake?
[2021-07-29T18:15:44Z] <testuser[m]> Perhaps
[2021-07-29T18:15:48Z] <slayr[m]> Oh seems to be compatible, nvm
[2021-07-29T18:16:25Z] <testuser[m]> Most packages are reusable across gcc and clung/llvm
[2021-07-29T18:16:33Z] <testuser[m]> Btw it's clang not cmake lol
[2021-07-29T18:17:24Z] <slayr[m]> cmake is the make in llvm
[2021-07-29T18:17:24Z] <slayr[m]> so because gomuks was depending on make, was asking that instead
[2021-07-29T18:18:42Z] <slayr[m]> seems like matrix-cli is dependent on some deprecated packages 😐️
[2021-07-29T18:19:15Z] <slayr[m]> And the makefile refers to gmake nice
[2021-07-29T18:19:38Z] <slayr[m]> gomuks seems to be working perfectly fine  😀
[2021-07-29T18:21:36Z] <acheam> > cmake is the make in llvm
[2021-07-29T18:21:36Z] <acheam> ?
[2021-07-29T18:22:13Z] <slayr[m]> alright, here's me in gomuks
[2021-07-29T18:22:27Z] <slayr[m]> The logic of that message was like
[2021-07-29T18:22:35Z] <slayr[m]> Cmake is make in llvm, just like Gmake is make in GCC
[2021-07-29T18:22:41Z] <slayr[m]> i hope that clarifies it.
[2021-07-29T18:23:12Z] <slayr[m]> Wow! gomuks has mouse support. noice
[2021-07-29T18:24:24Z] <slayr[m]> I have a problem with removable devices
[2021-07-29T18:24:55Z] <slayr[m]> When the HID devices (keyboard, mice, etc) are plugged in when booting in the system, the devices are recognized and configured perfectly.
[2021-07-29T18:25:13Z] <slayr[m]> But when removing them and re-attaching them, they no longer function despite the identification of the HID devices in dmesg.
[2021-07-29T18:27:32Z] <slayr[m]> I hope this is not called spamming but the output command in the sway's config seems to be also not working
[2021-07-29T18:28:39Z] <acheam> slayr[m]: it doesn't clarify is
[2021-07-29T18:28:40Z] <acheam> it
[2021-07-29T18:28:45Z] <acheam> gmake is a make implementation
[2021-07-29T18:28:55Z] <acheam> cmake is a totally different build system
[2021-07-29T18:29:14Z] <slayr[m]> ..
[2021-07-29T18:29:15Z] <acheam> see make(1p), make(1), cmake(1)
[2021-07-29T18:29:35Z] <slayr[m]> But when I do make, it shows cmake output
[2021-07-29T18:29:47Z] <slayr[m]> and when I do gmake, it shows gmake output
[2021-07-29T18:29:52Z] <slayr[m]> what about this?
[2021-07-29T18:29:52Z] <acheam> because cmake generates makefiles
[2021-07-29T18:30:08Z] <slayr[m]> and what about gmake?
[2021-07-29T18:30:08Z] <acheam> cmake generated makefiles which can be run by make or gmake
[2021-07-29T18:30:20Z] <acheam> gmake is just make
[2021-07-29T18:30:37Z] <acheam> its the GNU version of make, and is the default almost everywhere
[2021-07-29T18:30:48Z] <slayr[m]> Make implementation* since doing make install on clang-based kiss linux distros fails
[2021-07-29T18:30:52Z] <slayr[m]> oh I see
[2021-07-29T18:31:33Z] <slayr[m]> alright, i get this topic is settled down, took too long for me to understand X|
[2021-07-29T18:32:03Z] <slayr[m]> May you help with the HID devices problem?
[2021-07-29T18:32:31Z] <acheam> uhh do you have a running device manager?
[2021-07-29T18:32:46Z] <slayr[m]> mdev
[2021-07-29T18:32:55Z] <acheam> can you verify its running?
[2021-07-29T18:33:03Z] <slayr[m]> oh, its not running
[2021-07-29T18:33:07Z] <acheam> well there ya go
[2021-07-29T18:33:11Z] <slayr[m]> hold on, let me just link the service
[2021-07-29T18:34:13Z] <slayr[m]> they have removed the replacing-udev guide
[2021-07-29T18:34:18Z] <slayr[m]> :|
[2021-07-29T18:34:25Z] <acheam> because mdev is the default now
[2021-07-29T18:35:18Z] <slayr[m]> so i guess i should do ln -s /etc/sv/mdev /etc/service?
[2021-07-29T18:35:59Z] <acheam> refer to https://kisslinux.org/wiki/init/busybox
[2021-07-29T18:36:45Z] <slayr[m]> i have the mdev service as 'mdev -df' in the top stat but the devices are still not working when plugged
[2021-07-29T18:37:25Z] <acheam> what do you mean not working?
[2021-07-29T18:37:37Z] <acheam> also I think you need to reboot, or at least restart xorg
[2021-07-29T18:37:42Z] <acheam> or wayland or whatever
[2021-07-29T18:37:59Z] <slayr[m]> alright, am rebooting
[2021-07-29T18:38:11Z] <GalaxyNova> so is the keyboard not working?
[2021-07-29T18:39:38Z] <slayr[m]> Alright, the keyboard kicked in
[2021-07-29T18:39:49Z] <slayr[m]> now how do I scroll up in gomuks?
[2021-07-29T18:40:45Z] <acheam> man gomuks?
[2021-07-29T18:41:10Z] <slayr[m]> man: No entry for gomuks in the manual.
[2021-07-29T18:41:50Z] <acheam> use better software?
[2021-07-29T18:41:59Z] <GalaxyNova> try bage up
[2021-07-29T18:42:03Z] <GalaxyNova> page up*
[2021-07-29T18:42:04Z] <slayr[m]> huh?
[2021-07-29T18:42:12Z] <GalaxyNova> the page up key
[2021-07-29T18:42:31Z] <slayr[m]> oh page up seems to be working
[2021-07-29T18:42:31Z] <slayr[m]> thanks
[2021-07-29T18:43:13Z] <slayr[m]> irc -> matrix -> element -> gomuks progression
[2021-07-29T18:48:00Z] <slayr[m]> how do I make the settings in alsamixer permanent?
[2021-07-29T18:48:50Z] <GalaxyNova> modify the ~/.asoundrc
[2021-07-29T18:50:01Z] <slayr[m]> nvm alsactl store seems to get it permanent, thanks for the help bwtq
[2021-07-29T18:50:03Z] <slayr[m]> btw*
[2021-07-29T18:51:13Z] <slayr[m]> The HID device problem still exists
[2021-07-29T18:51:18Z] <slayr[m]> I have the mdev -df service
[2021-07-29T18:51:34Z] <slayr[m]> and have rebooted but the devices seems not to respond even tho they appear in the dmesg log
[2021-07-29T18:51:56Z] <GalaxyNova> weird
[2021-07-29T18:52:12Z] <GalaxyNova> did you install linux-firmware?
[2021-07-29T18:52:34Z] <GalaxyNova> if you're using a weird keyboard you might have to install the firmware to get it to work
[2021-07-29T18:54:54Z] <slayr[m]> it doesn't require any firmware to load
[2021-07-29T18:55:00Z] <slayr[m]> Its a CASUE USB keyboard
[2021-07-29T18:55:08Z] <slayr[m]> and the mouse is a Dell Optical Mouse
[2021-07-29T18:55:16Z] <slayr[m]> both get recognized with their names and ports
[2021-07-29T18:56:25Z] <slayr[m]> https://termbin.com/wwee < Here's the dmesg log where it shows the HID devices being recognized
[2021-07-29T18:57:22Z] <slayr[m]> The problem is it works but only if you keep it plugged, if you remove it and re-attach it, it gets recognized but doesn't function
[2021-07-29T19:05:04Z] <slayr[m]> USB mass storage devices are recognized tho
[2021-07-29T19:05:23Z] <slayr[m]> but for some reason hid devices seem not to work when un-plugged and re-attached
[2021-07-29T19:06:03Z] <dilyn> you don't have hotplugging support 
[2021-07-29T19:06:06Z] <acheam> in console or in graphical environment?
[2021-07-29T19:06:33Z] <slayr[m]> both
[2021-07-29T19:07:10Z] <slayr[m]> /bin/sh: can't create /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug: nonexistent directory
[2021-07-29T19:08:45Z] <dilyn> read this https://github.com/illiliti/libudev-zero
[2021-07-29T19:09:23Z] <dilyn> i don't actually make use of hotplugging so i'm no real help here if run into trouble but that should get it working 
[2021-07-29T19:09:54Z] <slayr[m]> So how to get hotpluggin' support?
[2021-07-29T19:11:10Z] <slayr[m]> I have libudev-zero installed
[2021-07-29T19:11:30Z] <slayr[m]> was that what you were referring to?
[2021-07-29T19:13:12Z] <acheam> read the hotplugging section
[2021-07-29T19:15:48Z] <slayr[m]> where I put the mdev.conf, helper.c, helper.sh?
[2021-07-29T19:19:23Z] <slayr[m]> I have a mdev.conf
[2021-07-29T19:19:24Z] <slayr[m]> having all the necessary contents
[2021-07-29T19:24:05Z] <slayr[m]> :q
[2021-07-29T19:24:38Z] <slayr[m]> how do I close gomuks without killing the whole terminal?
[2021-07-29T19:25:22Z] <slayr[m]> nvm found it
[2021-07-29T20:12:59Z] <Guest76> testuser[m] When making custom run file for runit service, is supervise dir also needed?
[2021-07-29T20:13:39Z] <Guest76> All my other services in /etc/runit/sv/ have a supervise/ folder that contains files "control lock ok pid stat status"
[2021-07-29T20:13:56Z] <Guest76> Don't know what to do about it
[2021-07-29T20:14:50Z] <Guest76> Ok never mind according to Void linux wiki its optional
[2021-07-29T20:16:02Z] <Guest76> When I type the command "sv start scron" I get the error "down: scron: 1s, normally up, want up"
[2021-07-29T20:18:43Z] <omanom> does it start when you run it manually?
[2021-07-29T20:25:24Z] <claudia> hola
[2021-07-29T20:27:55Z] <acheam> hi
[2021-07-29T20:30:15Z] <Guest76> omanom Yes I ran it from the command line like "/usr/local/bin/scron -f /var/spool/cron/mc -n" and it worked. My run file has the same thing except with exec at the start
[2021-07-29T20:30:33Z] <Guest76> and the #!/bin/sh at the top
[2021-07-29T20:32:33Z] <acheam> chmod +x ?
[2021-07-29T20:33:06Z] <omanom> which scron is it?
[2021-07-29T20:36:20Z] <Guest76> alright never mind i forgot cronie was running and i guess they were conflicting somehow
[2021-07-29T20:36:29Z] <Guest76> it is working now
[2021-07-29T21:01:41Z] <acheam> lol
[2021-07-29T21:08:46Z] <Guest33> why doesn't eiwd support iwctl command? something to do with dbus?
[2021-07-29T21:33:20Z] <soliwilos> I think it communicates with iwd using dbus, but eiwd has dbus removed.
[2021-07-29T21:39:11Z] <rio6> dbus >:(
[2021-07-29T21:47:28Z] <acheam> wow dbus has existed for 19 years
[2021-07-29T22:20:54Z] <Guest9151> I renamed my interface using udev now iwd says No devices in station mode available :sademoji: