[2021-10-16T00:29:27Z] <acheam> hey phoebos 
[2021-10-16T00:29:33Z] <acheam> stopped running a bounce out of choice
[2021-10-16T00:29:35Z] <acheam> server still up
[2021-10-16T00:29:43Z] <acheam> just wanted to be a little bit less connected
[2021-10-16T00:29:48Z] <acheam> no, still on 6.9
[2021-10-16T00:30:01Z] <acheam> will upgrade after the first syspatch probably
[2021-10-16T00:30:26Z] <acheam> no huge features I really want, so no real incentive to
[2021-10-16T00:51:53Z] <noocsharp> looks like this update will be completely painless, no config syntax changes that affect me
[2021-10-16T05:57:01Z] <midfavila> Evening, everyone.
[2021-10-16T05:57:16Z] <testuser[m]1> Hi
[2021-10-16T06:00:38Z] <midfavila> been tinkering with EMWM recently. it's pretty comfy
[2021-10-16T06:00:50Z] <midfavila> seriously considering switching to it
[2021-10-16T12:50:03Z] <jedavies> konimex: do you have /usr/bin/as in wyverkiss?  If not how do you deal with firefox looking for this?
[2021-10-16T12:52:38Z] <konimex> jdevaies: nope, I just patch the CFLAGS out https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wyvertux/wyverkiss/master/extra/firefox/patches/fix-clang-as.patch
[2021-10-16T12:52:53Z] <konimex> *jedavies
[2021-10-16T13:20:38Z] <jedavies> That removes the "no-integrated-as" flags, but for me firefox still fails because it's looking for a binary called "as", which I don't have by default.
[2021-10-16T14:29:04Z] <testuser[m]1> hi acheam
[2021-10-16T14:47:15Z] <illiliti> fix for tty switch: https://github.com/swaywm/wlroots/issues/3200
[2021-10-16T14:48:16Z] <testuser[m]1> oh nice
[2021-10-16T14:52:45Z] <illiliti> DYLAN: i suggest using upstream version of seatd since it no longer requires root
[2021-10-16T14:52:57Z] <illiliti> https://git.sr.ht/~kennylevinsen/seatd/commit/d9ae4c3010abfa1a72f1030afd282b5490747775
[2021-10-16T14:57:42Z] <acheam> hi testuser[m]1 
[2021-10-16T14:58:08Z] <acheam> weird, doesnt look like my message went through (at least the logger didnt catch it)
[2021-10-16T14:58:35Z] <acheam> noocsharp, phoebos[m]: upgraded my laptop to 7.0. Totally painless, easiest upgrade process of any OS i've used
[2021-10-16T14:59:04Z] <acheam> Took a bit of playing around to get used to sysmerge(8) though
[2021-10-16T16:13:12Z] <dilyn> illiliti: afaik chromium requires nss, though there are a few flags available that are off by default which seem interesting... 
[2021-10-16T16:13:38Z] <dilyn> phoebos: applied tyty
[2021-10-16T16:19:11Z] <phoebos> :)
[2021-10-16T16:19:25Z] <phoebos> acheam: sysmerge is to upgrade /etc right
[2021-10-16T20:21:12Z] <acheam> phoebos: yes
[2021-10-16T20:22:16Z] <acheam> oh also, having just written 500 lines of perl for a project, I still dont particularly understand what the people have against it
[2021-10-16T20:22:20Z] <acheam> besides it just being 1 more package
[2021-10-16T20:22:44Z] <acheam> s/the people/many of the people in this channel/g
[2021-10-16T20:22:44Z] <cotangent> <acheam> besides it just being 1 more package
[2021-10-16T20:46:23Z] <phoebos> cpan isn't particularly fun
[2021-10-16T21:35:48Z] <noocsharp> from the outside it seems like perl is just shell script but even more convoluted, but i've never written a line of perl in my life
[2021-10-16T22:09:43Z] <acheam> phoebos: I hear you on that
[2021-10-16T22:09:55Z] <acheam> So far I've only used openbsd packages
[2021-10-16T22:11:07Z] <acheam> noocsharp: Beyond basic scripts, I dont really see that
[2021-10-16T22:11:27Z] <acheam> I've been using it for backend web dev, and could never imagine using shell for that
[2021-10-16T22:14:18Z] <noocsharp> perl is not a language i think of when i hear backend web dev
[2021-10-16T22:19:12Z] <acheam> really? my understanding is that it has historically (although fading now) been quite popular
[2021-10-16T22:21:15Z] <acheam> especially in the early 2000s
[2021-10-16T22:22:29Z] <noocsharp> huh, appears that you're right
[2021-10-16T22:23:08Z] <noocsharp> what are you making with it?
[2021-10-16T22:24:13Z] <acheam> The website basically just parses the responses from some HTML forms, stores them in a sqlite db, and presents them in an admin interface
[2021-10-16T22:24:48Z] <acheam> using it to replace a google form that has been used for this purpose in the past
[2021-10-16T22:26:40Z] <noocsharp> nice