2020-08-04T00:08:16 #kisslinux oh yes it definitely will haha 2020-08-04T00:08:27 #kisslinux you basically can't remove anything xD 2020-08-04T00:16:19 #kisslinux .:D 2020-08-04T06:44:07 #kisslinux alright, a 1.45.2 release 2020-08-04T06:44:20 #kisslinux now let's see if they're planning to release 1.45.3 2020-08-04T06:44:53 #kisslinux Yup... 2020-08-04T06:44:59 #kisslinux I just started building it 2020-08-04T06:46:00 #kisslinux > We have never had a `.3` release; with only six weeks between most releases, there's just not a ton of time, even. And also, they're usually fixed in the next minor release anyway, and the point releases are just a bridge until then. 2020-08-04T08:28:11 #kisslinux man I give up 2020-08-04T08:28:15 #kisslinux I'll just hold rust at 1.44.1 2020-08-04T08:28:47 #kisslinux can you check if the build script is statically linked? 2020-08-04T08:28:54 #kisslinux Which build script? 2020-08-04T08:30:00 #kisslinux konimex was having trouble building ff with 1.45, and I believe it was duee to a rust build script being statically linked 2020-08-04T08:30:13 #kisslinux because I think that you cant dlopen w/ musl in a statically linked binary 2020-08-04T08:31:12 #kisslinux alright, I'll repeat dylan's question: which build script 2020-08-04T08:31:19 #kisslinux because I have no idea what you're referring to 2020-08-04T08:32:18 #kisslinux we talked about it previously, I dont have the paste you linked to, but it was the one that was trying to load libclang 2020-08-04T08:32:55 #kisslinux man I'll just rebuild it and bring the log, I meant come on it's a .so, why does one think it's statically linked 2020-08-04T08:33:17 #kisslinux the build script is statically linked, not libclang.so 2020-08-04T08:34:09 #kisslinux alright, will recompile outside kiss to se the logs, BUT, what if the build script is a plaintext, not a binary? 2020-08-04T08:34:39 #kisslinux it isn't 2020-08-04T08:35:02 #kisslinux I'm pretty sure the error was coming from a rust build script, which is a rust compiled binary 2020-08-04T08:35:18 #kisslinux goddamn broken language 2020-08-04T08:36:56 #kisslinux yup 2020-08-04T08:37:14 #kisslinux Mine is still building 2020-08-04T08:37:19 #kisslinux From when we spoke earlier today 2020-08-04T08:37:27 #kisslinux It's about to finish though. 2020-08-04T08:38:45 #kisslinux > std is standing at the ready. 2020-08-04T08:38:47 #kisslinux Yeah 2020-08-04T08:39:07 #kisslinux I've reached the jokes 2020-08-04T08:41:21 #kisslinux Pushed Rust 1.45.2 to testing... need to test Firefox builds now. 2020-08-04T08:43:44 #kisslinux * j`ey sent a message to the rust compiler chat 2020-08-04T08:43:59 #kisslinux anyway, isn't it misleading if a script is not in plaintext but in a compiled (ELF) format? 2020-08-04T08:44:11 #kisslinux no 2020-08-04T08:44:18 #kisslinux it's called build.rs 2020-08-04T08:44:29 #kisslinux which is the rust file extension 2020-08-04T08:44:32 #kisslinux build.rs, a rust source then? 2020-08-04T08:44:43 #kisslinux yes 2020-08-04T08:44:47 #kisslinux which is... plaintext? 2020-08-04T08:45:01 #kisslinux yes? 2020-08-04T08:45:21 #kisslinux but the compiled output isn't 2020-08-04T08:45:43 #kisslinux say, the compiled output, is it in .rustlib then? 2020-08-04T08:45:57 #kisslinux you know, nevermind, I'm doing a second rebuild and hopefully will bring you the logs and the relevant files (if requested) later 2020-08-04T08:46:25 #kisslinux /home/koni/.cache/kiss/build-5233/firefox-esr/build/release/build/neqo-crypto-bc2d5a8cd0ec9df9/build-script-build 2020-08-04T08:46:32 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/t1iq 2020-08-04T08:48:24 #kisslinux j`ey: are you trying to build with a rust toolchain from rustup? those statically link by default and can't be used to build firefox since it passes --target to cargo, so you can't disable static linking for build.rs 2020-08-04T08:49:53 #kisslinux mcf: statically link to libc/everything or to the libLLVM? 2020-08-04T08:51:33 #kisslinux the x86_64-unknown-linux-musl target in upstream rust statically links everything by default. every distribution has to patch rust to add a new target (like x86_64-alpine-linux-musl), or patch the x86_64-unknown-linux-musl target 2020-08-04T08:52:17 #kisslinux We don't add a new target 2020-08-04T08:52:34 #kisslinux in firefox, this is problematic since its build scripts require dynamic linking, but in cargo, if you pass --target explicitly, you can't change RUSTFLAGS for build.rs, so it tries to statically link and fails 2020-08-04T08:52:51 #kisslinux I don't think that's true since it still links dynamically to libgcc (I think) 2020-08-04T08:52:55 #kisslinux See: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/kisslinux/repo/master/testing/rust/patches/musl.patch 2020-08-04T08:53:04 #kisslinux or I am misunderstanding something 2020-08-04T08:54:00 #kisslinux E5ten: I need to escape filenames without external utilities now :D 2020-08-04T08:54:36 #kisslinux konimex: as dylanaraps linked, kiss chooses the "patch rust" option. that's why i asked if j`ey was using a rustup toolchain (which does not have that patch, and static links everything by default) 2020-08-04T08:54:54 #kisslinux mcf: konimex is the on trying to build ff 2020-08-04T08:55:32 #kisslinux yeah, I'm the one with problems, and no I'm not using rustup since it's impossible using rust's current toolchain 2020-08-04T08:55:33 #kisslinux and hitting the issue with build scripts/dlopen 2020-08-04T08:57:42 #kisslinux konimex: what does `rustc --print cfg` print? 2020-08-04T08:58:09 #kisslinux E5ten: Figured it out ;) 2020-08-04T08:58:48 #kisslinux mcf: I made a thread, would be nice if build.rs were just build non-static 2020-08-04T08:59:50 #kisslinux two secs 2020-08-04T09:01:30 #kisslinux j`ey: cool, do you have a link? there are lots of unfortunate things about x86_64-unknown-linux-musl in upstream rust, but all i saw on github issues was that they couldn't change it for backwards compatibility 2020-08-04T09:02:07 #kisslinux mcf: it's on zulip chat, so if youre on there I can link, otherwise not until I get an answer/make a github issue 2020-08-04T09:05:34 #kisslinux hehe https://github.com/dylanaraps/shfm/commit/40c1eab513acda26c1dde1bf7d998f6d292f2f3c 2020-08-04T09:06:02 #kisslinux j`ey: yep, you're right 2020-08-04T09:06:53 #kisslinux the build-script-build file is statically linked, but my build is still going on so will see if it's successfully built or not 2020-08-04T09:07:01 #kisslinux mcf: http://termbin.com/ag5h 2020-08-04T09:09:13 #kisslinux target_feature="crt-static" is the problem. where did you get your rustc binary? the kiss patch should have disabled that 2020-08-04T09:12:21 #kisslinux I build one myself since the bootstrap binary requires gcc, but I don't use dylan's patch, might be the problem 2020-08-04T09:13:53 #kisslinux https://github.com/wyvertux/wyverkiss/blob/eaf881f2b242eb053672e754b91d9b52cee80986/testing/rust/build#L54 however, I disabled crt-static here so it's been force-enabled? 2020-08-04T09:14:28 #kisslinux I've had no issues with my patch (originally contributed by protonesso about a year ago(?)). 2020-08-04T09:14:30 #kisslinux that might just be for building rustc itself? 2020-08-04T09:14:38 #kisslinux I think they're in this channel as well. 2020-08-04T09:14:49 #kisslinux o/ 2020-08-04T09:15:34 #kisslinux > that might just be for building rustc itself? 2020-08-04T09:15:34 #kisslinux no idea there 2020-08-04T09:15:36 #kisslinux konimex: yeah if the default is crt-static the firefox build will fail. when you call cargo with --target, it uses the default target_features for build.rs, and those can't be overridden by RUSTFLAGS or ~/.cargo/config because of https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/4423 2020-08-04T09:17:21 #kisslinux yeah, the config.toml is only for building rustc itself 2020-08-04T09:20:42 #kisslinux it is possible to modify firefox build scripts slightly to not pass --target to cargo. then you can set RUSTFLAGS='-C target-feature=-crt-static' which will take effect for build.rs since it's not considered a cross-compile 2020-08-04T09:22:11 #kisslinux I'll try dylan's patch first for patching rustc 2020-08-04T09:22:25 #kisslinux anyway, it's funny to me that rustup is built statically but the bootstrap for rustc isn't 2020-08-04T09:26:18 #kisslinux Irssi + termux actually seems to be a better alternative than using IRC apps on android 2020-08-04T09:26:35 #kisslinux oh right i had wrong nickname 2020-08-04T09:26:58 #kisslinux that's what Ive done for years, I lke it 2020-08-04T09:27:47 #kisslinux all irc apps on android suck 2020-08-04T09:32:14 #kisslinux irssi needs glib :< 2020-08-04T09:32:24 #kisslinux I have a semi-working irc client in posix shell though 2020-08-04T09:34:36 #kisslinux Does it use netcat lol? 2020-08-04T09:35:33 #kisslinux No 2020-08-04T09:35:38 #kisslinux It uses the openssl command directly 2020-08-04T09:35:49 #kisslinux So it supports SSL 2020-08-04T09:36:58 #kisslinux note that openssl s_client doesn't do certificate validation by default 2020-08-04T09:37:05 #kisslinux Wonderful 2020-08-04T09:37:08 #kisslinux Thanks for the heads up 2020-08-04T09:39:26 #kisslinux alright, while compiling rust (again), dylan: what's the output of your rustc --print cfg ? so I have a reference point 2020-08-04T09:39:38 #kisslinux does kiss use libressl? the nc from libressl has a -c option to use SSL, which might be a better option. i believe openssl s_client is intended more as a debugging tool 2020-08-04T09:39:57 #kisslinux Yes it does 2020-08-04T09:40:05 #kisslinux Will look into it 2020-08-04T09:40:31 #kisslinux konimex: it should be the same as what you had before, except without the target_feature="crt-static" line 2020-08-04T09:40:37 #kisslinux konimex: https://termbin.com/lhnat 2020-08-04T09:42:01 #kisslinux Have you guys seen: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Kernel-Blocking-NV-NetGPU ? 2020-08-04T09:42:06 #kisslinux > Kernel Developers Work To Block NVIDIA "GPL Condom" Effort Around New NetGPU Code 2020-08-04T09:43:07 #kisslinux Gets spicy in this thread: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/6376CA34-BC6F-45DE-9FFD-7E32664C7569⊙fc/T/#md514322fdfa212afe9f1d3eb4e5f7eaefece36eb 2020-08-04T09:43:13 #kisslinux > Ok, now you are just trolling us. 2020-08-04T09:43:17 #kisslinux > Nice job, I shouldn't have read the previous patches. 2020-08-04T09:43:22 #kisslinux > Please, go get a lawyer to sign-off on this patch, with their corporate 2020-08-04T09:43:26 #kisslinux > Please, go get a lawyer to sign-off on this patch, with their corporate 2020-08-04T09:43:28 #kisslinux email address on it. 2020-08-04T09:43:29 #kisslinux oops 2020-08-04T10:52:09 #kisslinux j`ey: does termux use a lot of battery in wakelock mode for you ? 2020-08-04T10:53:04 #kisslinux Oh, Im not using termux actually, read that as tmux (Im using screen but w.e) 2020-08-04T10:53:14 #kisslinux Im using juicessh+screen 2020-08-04T10:56:21 #kisslinux oh so you're sshing into a machine? 2020-08-04T10:56:47 #kisslinux yeah 2020-08-04T10:57:01 #kisslinux your pc or a random server of yours 2020-08-04T10:57:08 #kisslinux server 2020-08-04T11:03:16 #kisslinux alright, new build made it past neqo-crypto, thanks j`ey and mcf for the help 2020-08-04T11:03:25 #kisslinux now, to see if there's another build fail in firefox... 2020-08-04T11:04:57 #kisslinux yay! 2020-08-04T11:13:52 #kisslinux aloha 2020-08-04T11:15:14 #kisslinux ilitiliti: I have found a bug with libudev-zero. Retroarch wont start with it. Theres just a black screen. 2020-08-04T11:17:43 #kisslinux RA stays just with a black screen and cpu usage is a maximum. But sadly on a first glance theres is no error message with --verbose 2020-08-04T11:18:23 #kisslinux I yet have to understand what libudev-zero is 2020-08-04T11:18:29 #kisslinux everybody's talking about it 2020-08-04T11:18:52 #kisslinux can someone tl;dr what it is? 2020-08-04T11:18:56 #kisslinux https://github.com/illiliti/libudev-zero 2020-08-04T11:19:02 #kisslinux "Daemonless replacement for libudev" 2020-08-04T11:19:28 #kisslinux o 2020-08-04T11:27:34 #kisslinux aosync: You never need to worry about the udev dependency ever again 2020-08-04T11:27:48 #kisslinux You can use whatever device manager you like alongside this. 2020-08-04T11:28:12 #kisslinux Software requiring libudev just works 2020-08-04T11:28:23 #kisslinux modulo bugs :P 2020-08-04T11:43:29 #kisslinux ah so i can get rid of udev bloat and use mdev 2020-08-04T11:44:32 #kisslinux Yes 2020-08-04T11:44:41 #kisslinux This library will be used by software that needs it 2020-08-04T11:44:47 #kisslinux and you can forget that udev exists 2020-08-04T11:44:57 #kisslinux very based 2020-08-04T11:46:58 #kisslinux Will you replace udev by this and mdev in the installation guide? 2020-08-04T11:49:16 #kisslinux Yes, eventually 2020-08-04T12:09:37 #kisslinux hi, im trying to get kiss working on my desktop for the first time and i would like to get the nouveau drivers working. however, the pc boots to a black screen when they are enabled. do they need any custom firmware including in the kernel? my card is a 1070 (gp014) 2020-08-04T12:09:49 #kisslinux *gp104 2020-08-04T12:29:41 #kisslinux I forgot to check dylan's changes for 79.0 and ended up encountering the musl-kernel headers conflict error 2020-08-04T12:29:55 #kisslinux so I'm compiling (again)... 2020-08-04T12:30:42 #kisslinux Firefox 79? or are you talking about something else 2020-08-04T12:33:59 #kisslinux claudia02: thank you for reporting bugs. can you run retroarch with strace and see where it hangs ? 2020-08-04T12:34:23 #kisslinux aye, firefox 79, bad habit of mine not including the name of the software 2020-08-04T12:37:27 #kisslinux claudia02: btw retroarch can be compiled without udev 2020-08-04T12:39:25 #kisslinux ahhh, i just realized why it hangs 2020-08-04T12:40:14 #kisslinux retroarch uses libusb which is currently in broken state 2020-08-04T12:41:06 #kisslinux try to compile retroarch with --disable-libusb 2020-08-04T12:42:49 #kisslinux Firefox 79 still doesn't fix the webrtc segfault on musl :( konimex 2020-08-04T12:43:16 #kisslinux which segfault again? 2020-08-04T12:43:23 #kisslinux on runtime or compiletime? 2020-08-04T12:43:31 #kisslinux when you allow mic or screenshare 2020-08-04T12:43:33 #kisslinux runtime 2020-08-04T12:45:02 #kisslinux it worked until firefox esr 68 then they broke it 2020-08-04T12:46:57 #kisslinux wait does it happen for you? 2020-08-04T12:48:35 #kisslinux Can you reproduce? 2020-08-04T13:05:51 #kisslinux I think Firefox WebRTC is the buggiest shit ever. 2020-08-04T13:06:32 #kisslinux It's pretty broken on OpenBSD too. Random crashes; the tab eats like 4 gigs of RAM. 2020-08-04T13:07:16 #kisslinux The webrtc code is /from/ chromium 2020-08-04T13:07:27 #kisslinux Is it? 2020-08-04T13:07:39 #kisslinux TIL. Everything works very well on Chromium. 2020-08-04T13:07:52 #kisslinux That's the point ;) 2020-08-04T13:07:57 #kisslinux lol 2020-08-04T13:08:08 #kisslinux dylanaraps: solved my st/paletta issue by removing the anysize patch 2020-08-04T13:08:17 #kisslinux which i don't need anymore, so it works out 2020-08-04T13:08:23 #kisslinux Nice 2020-08-04T13:11:35 #kisslinux aosync: never have to do both so can't reproduce 2020-08-04T13:12:34 #kisslinux https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/Pluginfree-Screen-Sharing 2020-08-04T13:16:45 #kisslinux and now the error from firefox 79 is: ld: error: undefined hidden symbol: if_indextoname 2020-08-04T13:21:44 #kisslinux I'll just compile esr now 2020-08-04T14:31:43 #kisslinux does anyone have kiss working with an nvidia card? 2020-08-04T14:38:02 #kisslinux Not me, sorry :( 2020-08-04T14:38:20 #kisslinux ah rip 2020-08-04T15:56:40 #kisslinux New musl release featuring the debut of mallocng. How exciting! 2020-08-04T15:58:40 #kisslinux and new aarch64 memcpy/memset routines! 2020-08-04T16:06:06 #kisslinux If I run "kiss b" on a few packages, and then I ctrl+c from it, will it build all packages again, or maybe skip to the ones that are not built yet? 2020-08-04T16:06:52 #kisslinux it wont rebuild packages that weree fully built 2020-08-04T16:07:38 #kisslinux Alright, that's awesome, I wouldn't want to waste a few hours of compiling lol 2020-08-04T16:15:09 #kisslinux dylanaraps: lol nice on the file name escaping 2020-08-04T16:21:13 #kisslinux Within the first line of the while loop, I don't think that * at the end of the parameter substitution is necessary 2020-08-04T16:21:46 #kisslinux I just did `kiss update` the first time in 2 weeks, wish me luck 2020-08-04T16:38:37 #kisslinux xzcvczx: Do you also have issues about cpu frequency upscaling on linux 5.8? 2020-08-04T16:40:09 #kisslinux ummmmm nfi? 2020-08-04T16:40:20 #kisslinux with what symptoms? 2020-08-04T16:40:40 #kisslinux Cpu frequency stays at 1ghz and does not go up 2020-08-04T16:40:55 #kisslinux I have to tell the performance governor to go up manually 2020-08-04T16:41:06 #kisslinux echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor 2020-08-04T16:41:20 #kisslinux claudia02: not that i have noticed..... i build webkitgtk pretty damn quick yesterday 2020-08-04T16:42:59 #kisslinux I just noticed because a non snappy browsers and quiet fan while building stuff..:D 2020-08-04T16:43:16 #kisslinux konimex: is there any real benefits if lvm compiled with udev support ? if no, can you remove eudev dependency ? 2020-08-04T16:43:33 #kisslinux ah no my fan was making more noise than the time someone set dylanaraps pants on fire 2020-08-04T16:44:31 #kisslinux how about using pkgconfig? 2020-08-04T16:45:54 #kisslinux illiliti: I assume theres no further investigation needed for the retroarch issue because its clear that libusb is responsible? 2020-08-04T16:46:15 #kisslinux claudia02: yup 2020-08-04T16:46:25 #kisslinux konimex: why if we can drop eudev dependency entirely 2020-08-04T16:47:21 #kisslinux because I use udev rules for lvm? 2020-08-04T16:47:52 #kisslinux valid point 2020-08-04T16:48:18 #kisslinux pkgconfig is better then 2020-08-04T16:55:54 #kisslinux E5ten: Nice, removed * 2020-08-04T16:57:01 #kisslinux phew that timing 2020-08-04T16:58:37 #kisslinux E5ten: Here's something you might find interesting. Is it possible to check if a path is a directory without using [/test -d? 'cd' cannot be used as it'll report false for directories you have no access to. 2020-08-04T16:58:41 #kisslinux ;) 2020-08-04T16:58:54 #kisslinux There is no trailing / either. 2020-08-04T16:59:04 #kisslinux sudo cd :P 2020-08-04T17:01:38 #kisslinux claudia02: my cpu is at 3392.137 mhz 2020-08-04T17:01:44 #kisslinux so it doesn't seem to be stuck at 1g 2020-08-04T17:02:14 #kisslinux governer is powersave 2020-08-04T17:02:16 #kisslinux Or I could use [ -d ... but that's not fun. 2020-08-04T17:04:14 #kisslinux is there anything like what git.k1ss.org is using that doesn't include line numbers when copying a file? Interested in hosting a mirror of my repos but I really don't like that behavior 2020-08-04T17:05:04 #kisslinux himmalerin: Just edit the source code of stagit (what KISS uses) 2020-08-04T17:05:53 #kisslinux Source is here: http://git.2f30.org/stagit/file/stagit.c.html 2020-08-04T17:06:15 #kisslinux The line numbers can be made unselectable via css as well. 2020-08-04T17:06:48 #kisslinux (You want user-select: none; for this) 2020-08-04T17:07:37 #kisslinux Well that's neat, I'll take a look. Thanks! 2020-08-04T17:08:16 #kisslinux Source code edits are more or less how it's configured. 2020-08-04T17:08:29 #kisslinux You can supply your own CSS file which goes a long way though. 2020-08-04T17:10:39 #kisslinux hmm, using user-select _sort of_ works, everything still gets prefixed by a single space though. Maybe I'll figure out how to get it to output table cells instead 2020-08-04T17:14:07 #kisslinux anyone know a nice slim audio editor good for kiss? 2020-08-04T17:16:26 #kisslinux himmalerin: You'll have to edit the source as it embeds the extra space into the file's content and not the number "column" 2020-08-04T17:16:34 #kisslinux :( 2020-08-04T17:20:17 #kisslinux dylanaraps: maybe you could check if /*/ matches /? 2020-08-04T17:20:28 #kisslinux Among other things 2020-08-04T17:20:57 #kisslinux Would probably be less efficient than just [ -d, cuz you'd probably have to loop, but idk 2020-08-04T17:28:50 #kisslinux xzcvczx: My computer statrs with cpu governor: userspace. 2020-08-04T17:31:48 #kisslinux Would you mind sharing your config? 2020-08-04T17:33:23 #kisslinux E5ten: I've just gone with -d 2020-08-04T17:34:50 #kisslinux my .config? 2020-08-04T17:37:21 #kisslinux https://termbin.com/3wwy 2020-08-04T17:42:02 #kisslinux merci 2020-08-04T17:49:40 #kisslinux claudia02: since you archived mywayland what do you run now? 2020-08-04T17:51:23 #kisslinux At the moment I try to make friends with berry. 2020-08-04T17:53:41 #kisslinux berry looks pretty nice! 2020-08-04T17:55:03 #kisslinux You can have two borders, though my screen is too small for such candy. 2020-08-04T17:55:03 #kisslinux shfm will be in the initrd of EasyOS's next release :D 2020-08-04T17:57:17 #kisslinux neat. 2020-08-04T18:11:14 #kisslinux dylanaraps: fun 2020-08-04T18:13:57 #kisslinux Is the location of the /dev/shm partition standard? Because in shm_overview(7) they say that it should *normally be mounted* but idk if that indicates that it is standard in any way. 2020-08-04T18:14:45 #kisslinux xzcvczx: Odd, with your config its the same behaviour. 2020-08-04T18:15:31 #kisslinux Lets see next release 2020-08-04T19:04:19 #kisslinux E5ten: know of any shell minifiers? I just spent way too long doing this: https://github.com/dylanaraps/shfm/blob/master/devel/shfm-mini and it'd be nice to automate it in some way. 2020-08-04T19:04:36 #kisslinux > 7403 shfm 2020-08-04T19:04:37 #kisslinux > 2998 devel/shfm-mini 2020-08-04T19:08:57 #kisslinux Anyone run into "PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied" when trying to build firefox? It seems to stem from python but it's a pretty unhelpful message http://0x0.st/i3ZL.txt 2020-08-04T19:09:47 #kisslinux It might have to do with me trying to use glibc instead of musl? 2020-08-04T19:27:25 #kisslinux dylanaraps: lol no I don't 2020-08-04T20:44:25 #kisslinux hi folks 2020-08-04T20:44:37 #kisslinux i can only boot with nomodeset 2020-08-04T20:44:57 #kisslinux latest kernel, nouveau xf86 installed and enabled in kernel 2020-08-04T20:46:11 #kisslinux i was thinking something with linux-firmware but i have no idea how to install that stuff and the google isnt being very helpful atm 2020-08-04T20:51:16 #kisslinux i have a gtx 1050 2020-08-04T21:12:06 #kisslinux sirtomato: In case you read the logs, it's probably the firmware, have you checked https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Nouveau#Installation yet? Your GPU should use the GP107 firmware 2020-08-04T22:44:21 #kisslinux @freenode_dylanaraps:matrix.org: someone has assigned the elftoolchain bug I made to themselves, although they haven't responded yet, so hopefully we see action on it soon (whether it's them merging my patch, or fixing it some other way) 2020-08-04T22:45:35 #kisslinux also, in shfm term_scroll_up, you might consider doing case $y in -*|0|1) return; esac, so that the rest of the code can have its indentation level decreased twice? 2020-08-04T22:47:00 #kisslinux also, I believe the backslash before the ? in file_escape is unnecessary, because assignments don't undergo glob expansion 2020-08-04T22:47:21 #kisslinux actually, I bet shellcheck warns about that, iirc it does for * in assignments 2020-08-04T22:47:48 #kisslinux yeah, it does, nevermind 2020-08-04T22:50:46 #kisslinux also, not that you can change this but I just think it's useful to know, stty size is not technically POSIX, although it has been added for the next issue (as have corresponding C functions for getting terminal size) 2020-08-04T22:51:57 #kisslinux oh wait lol, you did know that and it's in the README, nevermind 2020-08-04T23:06:45 #kisslinux illiliti: fyi, I have to disable udev in retroarch. Disabling libusb, even if its build _without_ udev does not solve the issue. 2020-08-04T23:09:46 #kisslinux interested 2020-08-04T23:11:17 #kisslinux probably retroarch uses same logic as libusb 2020-08-04T23:19:12 #kisslinux claudia02: what functionaly you will lose if retroarch compiled without udev ? 2020-08-04T23:20:45 #kisslinux i mean, is it worth to keep udev dependency in retroarch if it provides --disable-udev option 2020-08-04T23:36:00 #kisslinux https://docs.libretro.com/guides/input-joypad-drivers/#udev-input-driver 2020-08-04T23:36:26 #kisslinux > It(udev) supports hotplugging and force feedback (if supported by device). 2020-08-04T23:36:39 #kisslinux Haha, so we might loose force feedback :D 2020-08-04T23:38:48 #kisslinux And of cource hotpluging, which might be more considerable for gamepads than for e.g mouse. But I think then its worth to disable it by default. 2020-08-04T23:40:29 #kisslinux joysticks is not supported by libudev-zero 2020-08-04T23:40:56 #kisslinux hotplugging is not yet implemented in libudev-zero 2020-08-04T23:41:47 #kisslinux Dont you want to support joysticks or is not that _easy_? 2020-08-04T23:44:24 #kisslinux i don't have a joystick to test working capacity 2020-08-04T23:44:56 #kisslinux gotcha 2020-08-04T23:49:23 #kisslinux illiliti: but support (even if it's untested) could be added by looking at the kernel docs for what evdev attributes a joystick would have right? 2020-08-04T23:51:41 #kisslinux i can try to blindly implement joysticks support relying on kernel docs, but i'm pretty sure it will not work because evdev attributes of joysticks very different today 2020-08-04T23:52:00 #kisslinux i'm not willing to push semi-working solution 2020-08-04T23:52:07 #kisslinux I see 2020-08-04T23:52:20 #kisslinux claudia02: do you have one? 2020-08-04T23:54:03 #kisslinux E5ten: yes. A joypad.