2020-04-05T01:47:59 #kisslinux <icyphox> paradigm: Thanks! Mind sharing the reddit post?
2020-04-05T02:02:23 #kisslinux <icyphox> Found it, never mind.
2020-04-05T02:02:31 #kisslinux <icyphox> Yikes...
2020-04-05T02:03:04 #kisslinux <icyphox> I've been getting /a lot/ of shit for that post.
2020-04-05T02:03:44 #kisslinux <icyphox> I'm not sure why. I mean, clearly it's not for everyone. It works for me, and I'm not asking you to do it too.
2020-04-05T02:03:49 #kisslinux <icyphox> Sigh.
2020-04-05T02:45:32 #kisslinux <letoram> few topics that are as infected - /ignore on reddit,phoronix and similar places is generally good for your mental well-being
2020-04-05T02:45:39 #kisslinux <letoram> also, +1 a another r2 user :)
2020-04-05T02:47:02 #kisslinux <icyphox> Yeah good call letoram.
2020-04-05T02:47:09 #kisslinux <icyphox> Also nice, what do you use r2 for?
2020-04-05T02:49:14 #kisslinux <letoram> well I use r2/ghidra/binja/ida/own-tools on a day to day basis - malware rev.eng, red-team tooling, old hw protection reversing
2020-04-05T02:50:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> Sick sick.
2020-04-05T02:50:17 #kisslinux <icyphox> I'm looking for a career in embedded security.
2020-04-05T02:50:21 #kisslinux <icyphox> So similar lines. :)
2020-04-05T02:50:40 #kisslinux <letoram> https://github.com/letoram/senseye/wiki <- one of my older porjects
2020-04-05T02:51:43 #kisslinux <icyphox> Oooo, very cool.
2020-04-05T02:51:58 #kisslinux <icyphox> Oh, you're a Ph.D in CS! Big brain.
2020-04-05T02:52:11 #kisslinux <icyphox> I'm just like, in my 3rd year of undergrad CS lol.
2020-04-05T02:55:09 #kisslinux <letoram> current academic landscape around here I wouldn't have gone further than that this day and age
2020-04-05T02:55:30 #kisslinux <letoram> otoh - the learning resources are bloody amazing now, you play CTFs?
2020-04-05T02:55:38 #kisslinux <icyphox> I do!
2020-04-05T02:55:52 #kisslinux <icyphox> Not actively at the moment, but yes, I do.
2020-04-05T02:56:40 #kisslinux <icyphox> Mostly pwn or RE ones.
2020-04-05T02:56:45 #kisslinux <icyphox> My crypto is the worst.
2020-04-05T02:56:47 #kisslinux <icyphox> lol
2020-04-05T02:58:12 #kisslinux <letoram> well crypto is the more toy category as well - you have cryptopals level then it skips into .gov territory
2020-04-05T02:58:50 #kisslinux <letoram> I don't play myself, if I have the time I prefer to use that on real-life target (mame, ..
2020-04-05T02:59:25 #kisslinux <letoram> many irl friends used to be european nopsled - but there's a shelf life on these things
2020-04-05T03:00:08 #kisslinux <icyphox> Yeah...
2020-04-05T03:00:27 #kisslinux <icyphox> TBF, I'll probably do security research for a bit, and try and transition into a threat intel role if I can.
2020-04-05T03:00:48 #kisslinux <icyphox> I think I find tracking APTs etc. a lot more fun.
2020-04-05T03:01:16 #kisslinux <icyphox> That's security research in itself too, though.
2020-04-05T12:02:01 #kisslinux <lieu> o/
2020-04-05T12:04:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> Hi!
2020-04-05T12:04:17 #kisslinux <icyphox> Dylan's still MIA...
2020-04-05T12:07:34 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: Yeah. I miss him already.
2020-04-05T12:07:40 #kisslinux <lieu> no homo
2020-04-05T12:07:41 #kisslinux <lieu> How are you doing there, btw?
2020-04-05T12:10:40 #kisslinux <icyphox> lieu: I'm fine. On lockdown for another 2 weeks.
2020-04-05T12:10:56 #kisslinux <icyphox> What's up with your client lol?
2020-04-05T12:13:58 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: I'm using webchat. My connection is slow as hell.
2020-04-05T12:14:33 #kisslinux <lieu> How long is your lockdown?
2020-04-05T12:17:21 #kisslinux <icyphox> lieu: Dang.
2020-04-05T12:17:36 #kisslinux <icyphox> We're closed till the 15th of April, but it can potentially extend further.
2020-04-05T12:21:06 #kisslinux <lieu> test
2020-04-05T12:22:08 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: I'm now on birch. lol
2020-04-05T12:22:19 #kisslinux <icyphox> лол
2020-04-05T12:22:21 #kisslinux <icyphox> wop
2020-04-05T12:22:26 #kisslinux <icyphox> lol
2020-04-05T12:23:18 #kisslinux <lieu> side by side with some irc-log-pulling script just to check if shit's sending lol
2020-04-05T12:24:11 #kisslinux <lieu> script courtesy of dylan, of course lol
2020-04-05T12:27:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> heh
2020-04-05T12:27:09 #kisslinux <icyphox> How's it going there lieu?
2020-04-05T12:33:07 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: ECQ's scheduled to end also on 15th but I doubt.
2020-04-05T12:35:06 #kisslinux <icyphox> ECQ?
2020-04-05T12:36:17 #kisslinux <claudia> aloha!
2020-04-05T12:36:38 #kisslinux <icyphox> Hi claudia :)
2020-04-05T12:36:40 #kisslinux <claudia> dylanaraps said on 30 march that his laptop struggles turning on https://freenode.logbot.info/kisslinux/20200330
2020-04-05T12:36:55 #kisslinux <claudia> So I made a donation, for the case he needs to get a new one
2020-04-05T12:37:11 #kisslinux <icyphox> Nice!
2020-04-05T12:37:53 #kisslinux <claudia> Maybe when people thinking about donation, this might be a good time i think
2020-04-05T12:38:25 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: oh, enhaced community quarantine lol
2020-04-05T12:38:51 #kisslinux <icyphox> claudia: I wish I could...I don't earn any money tho. :(
2020-04-05T12:39:06 #kisslinux <icyphox> lieu: Ah lol, that's what y'all are calling it.
2020-04-05T12:40:08 #kisslinux <lieu> claudia: i would like to as well but i don't know how to send money from here lol
2020-04-05T12:40:45 #kisslinux <claudia> y, you need to have some kind of credit card :2020-04-05T12:40:46 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: yea, it's like CQ but without dbus *ba dum tss*
2020-04-05T12:40:57 #kisslinux <claudia> we need an adress so send by post :D
2020-04-05T12:41:04 #kisslinux <icyphox> lolol
2020-04-05T12:41:12 #kisslinux <claudia> kiss style
2020-04-05T12:41:35 #kisslinux <icyphox> claudia, lieu: Do you guys work?
2020-04-05T12:41:46 #kisslinux <claudia> no
2020-04-05T12:41:52 #kisslinux <lieu> claudia: that, i don't have. i don't even know if i'll be regularized on my current job lol
2020-04-05T12:42:02 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: yes me
2020-04-05T12:42:13 #kisslinux <jedavies> Also sent Dylan a donation, figured his laptop was broken.
2020-04-05T12:42:17 #kisslinux <icyphox> Cool.
2020-04-05T12:42:44 #kisslinux <claudia> I moved to my parents to help in their household, they get older
2020-04-05T12:42:57 #kisslinux <icyphox> Ah, I see.
2020-04-05T12:44:05 #kisslinux <lieu> but my job only involves hardware
2020-04-05T12:44:44 #kisslinux <icyphox> Interesting.
2020-04-05T12:47:34 #kisslinux <lieu> webdev was also my thing when i was in college
2020-04-05T12:48:06 #kisslinux <lieu> but then frameworks took over
2020-04-05T12:48:15 #kisslinux <lieu> spreading like covid
2020-04-05T12:48:33 #kisslinux <fehawen> claudia: How much did you donate, if you don't mind me asking?
2020-04-05T12:49:30 #kisslinux <fehawen> I've planned to make a "larger" donation as soon as I have installed KISS. I'm the only retard here not running KISS I think lol, still running Arch as I need docker, dotnet, aspnet and some other obscure stuff for current work projects.
2020-04-05T12:49:50 #kisslinux <lieu> so i settled on hardware and made programming a hobby
2020-04-05T12:50:10 #kisslinux <lieu> keeps my life stupid simple lol
2020-04-05T12:50:36 #kisslinux <icyphox> fehawen: You should probably not install KISS then lol, you're going to run into trouble with work stuff.
2020-04-05T12:50:41 #kisslinux <icyphox> Unless you have a spare machine.
2020-04-05T12:50:48 #kisslinux <icyphox> lieu: That's nice man.
2020-04-05T12:51:42 #kisslinux <fehawen> icyphox: Yep, for the time being at least. I will install it though, as the current projects I'm assigned to will end in a few weeks or so. That'll give me time to find solutions to any problems etc I might have due to KISS
2020-04-05T12:52:15 #kisslinux <icyphox> Cool cool.
2020-04-05T12:52:27 #kisslinux <fehawen> I have a second laptop though, that I normally use for work, running Arch as well. But now I'm retreated to the vacation house, due to Corona spreading so much in Stockholm, and I only brought one laptop.
2020-04-05T12:52:39 #kisslinux <claudia> fehawen: I dont mind. It was 50eu. Not much in case of a new computer but something.
2020-04-05T12:52:43 #kisslinux <icyphox> I will likely have to switch to a more mainstream distro once I start working.
2020-04-05T12:53:00 #kisslinux <lieu> has anyone tried building lfs before?
2020-04-05T12:53:01 #kisslinux <icyphox> Or maybe not, since I'll have a work machine...
2020-04-05T12:53:02 #kisslinux <icyphox> IDK
2020-04-05T12:53:11 #kisslinux <icyphox> lieu: I have. Did it ~2-3 years ago.
2020-04-05T12:53:20 #kisslinux <fehawen> claudia: 50€ is still quite a generous amount I'd say.
2020-04-05T12:53:50 #kisslinux <fehawen> I applaud Dylan's choice to not have a phone, but right now I reckon it'd come in handy, just for us to be able to check up on him.
2020-04-05T12:54:01 #kisslinux <claudia> Hopefully dylan gets to a computer to use this digital money (:
2020-04-05T12:54:03 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: how's it like? any tips when during the build process?
2020-04-05T12:54:14 #kisslinux <claudia> fehawen: true
2020-04-05T12:54:31 #kisslinux <icyphox> It's a long process lieu.
2020-04-05T12:54:37 #kisslinux <icyphox> And IIRC, they use glibc.
2020-04-05T12:54:46 #kisslinux <fehawen> claudia: lol, didn't think of that. Hopefully someone in his family has a computer he can borrow to at least access the money.
2020-04-05T12:54:47 #kisslinux <icyphox> And GNU coreutils.
2020-04-05T12:55:02 #kisslinux <fehawen> Did you donate to him via the KISS donate?
2020-04-05T12:55:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> You can do musl lfs somebody wrote a book for it
2020-04-05T12:55:33 #kisslinux <icyphox> dilyn: Ah, I see.
2020-04-05T12:55:56 #kisslinux <lieu> dilyn: i'll be experimenting with glibc
2020-04-05T12:56:07 #kisslinux <icyphox> I wonder if there's a BSDFS.
2020-04-05T12:56:11 #kisslinux <lieu> and integrating kiss as well
2020-04-05T12:56:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> Fehawen: you could perhaps do all those things in a chroot. I need Citrix to work from home and it works very easily in an arch chroot
2020-04-05T12:56:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> Kiss would integrate super well with lfs. There's even a chapter dedicated to package management decisions
2020-04-05T12:57:07 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: my plan is to build all lfs packages then create some sort of chroot tarball like dylan does
2020-04-05T12:57:25 #kisslinux <icyphox> Nice
2020-04-05T12:57:48 #kisslinux <icyphox> AFK for a bit.
2020-04-05T12:58:58 #kisslinux <lieu> i'm calling it BLISS Linux
2020-04-05T12:59:23 #kisslinux <claudia> fehawen: yes via kiss donate -> paypal
2020-04-05T12:59:30 #kisslinux <lieu> as in BLoated KISS lol
2020-04-05T12:59:51 #kisslinux <fehawen> Cool
2020-04-05T13:23:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> Make sure you choose systemd lfs and not sysvinit lmao
2020-04-05T13:30:16 #kisslinux <lieu> dilyn: i can't take on systemd, that's next-level bloat, glibc bloat will suffice lol
2020-04-05T13:37:22 #kisslinux <fehawen> dilyn: chroot is an excellent idea, didn't think of that. thanks
2020-04-05T14:12:42 #kisslinux <kiedtl> afk for a week, sorry if any of my pkgs get's outdated
2020-04-05T14:12:48 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I'll get to it next week
2020-04-05T14:12:52 #kisslinux <kiedtl> bye :)
2020-04-05T14:13:49 #kisslinux <paradigm> icyphox: the topic of systemd became a very tribal/politicial one on reddit.  Preferring an alternative makes you a hated member of the outgroup.  It's not a rational thing.  I wouldn't take it to heart.
2020-04-05T14:35:12 #kisslinux <fehawen> Bye kiedtl
2020-04-05T14:43:35 #kisslinux <icyphox> paradigm: Yeah... :)
2020-04-05T15:44:59 #kisslinux <dzove855> hii guys
2020-04-05T15:46:44 #kisslinux <dzove855> does someone got ppp working on kiss?
2020-04-05T15:49:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> alpine has a build
2020-04-05T15:49:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/main/ppp?h=master
2020-04-05T15:54:05 #kisslinux <dzove855> great! didn' though about looking in alpine. Thanks
2020-04-05T15:55:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> they've almost always got whatever i'm looking for haha
2020-04-05T15:55:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> except for lshw - almost nobody has got a working version for the latest release smh
2020-04-05T16:00:11 #kisslinux <dzove855> yeah i have seen a lot of poeple referencing to alpine for a working build
2020-04-05T16:00:20 #kisslinux <dzove855> in this channel
2020-04-05T17:12:49 #kisslinux <JHmd> Hey, noob question, Where do I put compiler flags for the package manager?
2020-04-05T17:15:03 #kisslinux <jedavies> In your CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS environment variable
2020-04-05T17:15:25 #kisslinux <jedavies> Add to your .profile to preserve them
2020-04-05T17:18:29 #kisslinux <JHmd> Thank you!
2020-04-05T17:39:52 #kisslinux <onodera>  error: 'uint64_t' does not name a type; did you mean 'ino64_t'
2020-04-05T17:39:56 #kisslinux <onodera> anyone seen this error before?
2020-04-05T18:08:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> sometimes
2020-04-05T18:08:18 #kisslinux <dilyn> what are you trying to build?
2020-04-05T18:17:12 #kisslinux <onodera> fish shell (my own port)
2020-04-05T18:17:29 #kisslinux <onodera> the thing is, it build before, hover I updated to gcc 10 testing, and now it throws this error
2020-04-05T18:24:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/issues/6604
2020-04-05T18:24:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> ?
2020-04-05T18:24:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> fixed in 3.1.1, probably; as this issue was made after 3.1.0 released
2020-04-05T19:23:10 #kisslinux <onodera> thanks dilyn
2020-04-05T19:23:11 #kisslinux <onodera> that fixed it
2020-04-05T19:51:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> awesome! glad to hear it :)
2020-04-05T20:00:12 #kisslinux <CmOo> I'm having some problems launching X as user. I'm getting this error: "open /dev/dri/card0: Permission denied"
2020-04-05T20:00:53 #kisslinux <CmOo> And also "_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root"
2020-04-05T20:02:53 #kisslinux <mforney> CmOo: the error message seems pretty clear. what are the permissions of /dev/dri/card0? are you in the right group to open it?
2020-04-05T20:04:54 #kisslinux <CmOo> Oh right. Adding myself to the "video" group fixed it.
2020-04-05T20:10:09 #kisslinux <CmOo> If I try to delete the /tmp/.X11-unix directory, and start x again, I get: "_XSERVTransmkdir: ERROR: euid !=0,directory /tmp/.X11-unix will not be created."
2020-04-05T20:17:30 #kisslinux <E5ten> mforney: could you check out the new version of the one line PR? I'm pretty sure I've solved the remaining issues with missing/extra newlines
2020-04-05T20:40:46 #kisslinux <mforney> E5ten: yeah. sorry for the delay. too many things to do, not enough time
2020-04-05T20:41:40 #kisslinux <E5ten> no worries, thanks
2020-04-05T22:24:15 #kisslinux <CmOo> How do I set the timezone on kiss?