2020-01-28T00:54:49 #kisslinux <konimex> at this point I think Intel should have a daily x86 exploit reveal
2020-01-28T01:02:25 #kisslinux <konimex> E5ten: let that man go, man. dude's a full-on nutcase
2020-01-28T01:06:15 #kisslinux <E5ten> I can'tttt
2020-01-28T01:06:31 #kisslinux <E5ten> he's so fucking off the wall and he just jumps from irrelevant argument to irrelevant argument
2020-01-28T01:08:25 #kisslinux <E5ten> ugh fuck it I'm done
2020-01-28T01:08:36 #kisslinux <E5ten> he's just a raving lunatic
2020-01-28T07:10:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AppStream-1.0-Coming
2020-01-28T07:10:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > XML based
2020-01-28T07:11:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hm, I wonder
2020-01-28T07:11:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/docs/
2020-01-28T07:11:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah, yes
2020-01-28T08:12:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/commit/60ac1c094e68214f93d756446ff67ee6109ff793
2020-01-28T08:16:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> kiss will now store build logs of failed builds
2020-01-28T08:16:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can store build logs of all builds by setting `KISS_DEBUG=1`.
2020-01-28T08:22:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS_DEBUG=1 kiss b zlib >/dev/null
2020-01-28T08:23:37 #kisslinux <Guest83> (y)
2020-01-28T08:24:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This command will now hide all build output but log it to a file under ~/.cache/kiss/logs
2020-01-28T08:24:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Package manager output will still be shown to the terminal(!)
2020-01-28T08:27:32 #kisslinux <dzove855> huu, nice
2020-01-28T08:28:04 #kisslinux <Guest83> your doppelganger has logged in Dylan
2020-01-28T08:28:15 #kisslinux <Guest83> thats a it awkward
2020-01-28T08:28:29 #kisslinux <Guest83> bit awkward
2020-01-28T08:28:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps2> My power went out
2020-01-28T08:28:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps2> irc didn't disconnect properly
2020-01-28T08:29:24 #kisslinux <Guest83> sorry not you dzove855
2020-01-28T08:30:15 #kisslinux <dzove855> Guest83: haha i know
2020-01-28T08:31:58 #kisslinux <dzove855> holy crap the meteo here is disgusting today, it took me 1h to 10km with a car... the guys just don't know how to drive.. my journey started well :(
2020-01-28T08:34:04 #kisslinux <Guest83> weather?
2020-01-28T08:34:51 #kisslinux <dzove855> yeah, it's a mix of snow, rain and hail grains
2020-01-28T08:36:41 #kisslinux <Guest83> @dzobe855 where are you if you don't mind my asking?
2020-01-28T08:37:12 #kisslinux <dzove855> i'm from luxembourg
2020-01-28T08:37:47 #kisslinux <Guest83> ah, you're not mrneilypops are you?
2020-01-28T08:38:40 #kisslinux <dzove855> no i'm not :)
2020-01-28T08:38:54 #kisslinux <Guest83> he does a debian/dwm distrolette thing
2020-01-28T08:39:22 #kisslinux <Guest83> he is from luxembourg also i believe
2020-01-28T08:40:38 #kisslinux <dzove855> yeahh i just saw it. Didn't know this guy, actually there're not a lot of luxembourg poeple who try to contributate in the open source community actually
2020-01-28T08:40:58 #kisslinux <dzove855> i know a few one, but it(s a really small country, so it's difficult to find someone
2020-01-28T08:41:45 #kisslinux <Guest83> yes, same here
2020-01-28T08:41:53 #kisslinux <dzove855> where're you from?
2020-01-28T08:42:09 #kisslinux <Guest83> i'm in new zealand
2020-01-28T08:42:14 #kisslinux <Guest83> auckland
2020-01-28T08:42:55 #kisslinux <dzove855> hello from the other side :D
2020-01-28T08:43:08 #kisslinux <Guest83> you have sound in firefox now?
2020-01-28T08:43:40 #kisslinux <dzove855> yeah, just got it working yesterday, i had written a bad configuration in asound
2020-01-28T08:43:46 #kisslinux <Guest83> oh yes indeed, from the other side XD
2020-01-28T08:43:55 #kisslinux <Guest83> almost 10pm here
2020-01-28T08:43:59 #kisslinux <dzove855> actually it was a good configuration but for the wrong card :D
2020-01-28T08:44:17 #kisslinux <dzove855> here it is almos 10am haha
2020-01-28T08:44:25 #kisslinux <Guest83> ah yes that'll do it
2020-01-28T08:48:44 #kisslinux <dzove855> yeah, it was great now.
2020-01-28T08:49:11 #kisslinux <dzove855> s/was/works/
2020-01-28T10:11:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-01-28T10:28:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Did you see the log feature I added? :P
2020-01-28T10:28:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> hey dylanaraps not yet, about to check
2020-01-28T10:28:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/commit/60ac1c094e68214f93d756446ff67ee6109ff793
2020-01-28T10:29:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > KISS_DEBUG=1 kiss b zlib >/dev/null
2020-01-28T10:29:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is my favourite part of it
2020-01-28T10:30:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can hide all build output but log it to a file
2020-01-28T10:34:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> looking now
2020-01-28T10:37:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> amazing stuff
2020-01-28T10:37:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> You make it look easy
2020-01-28T10:39:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> heh
2020-01-28T10:39:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-28T10:39:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Power went out again)
2020-01-28T10:39:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> I have been working on my own thing here. PAM is totally crap but i like using ext4 encrypt for directories in my $HOME now, with fscrypt (havent packaged it for kiss, yet)-- but i've been setting up for it. Currently I autologin on the getty to bash, then run this bash_profile ...
2020-01-28T10:40:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> so for a sensitive directory like a web browser that remains logged in to websites, i'll stick it in $HOME/LOCKER and symlink to it
2020-01-28T10:40:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> working on https://github.com/a-schaefers/dot-emacs/blob/master/.bash_profile and https://github.com/a-schaefers/dot-emacs/blob/master/.bash_logout
2020-01-28T10:42:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> Currently i autologin on the getty, it spawns gpg agent, asks my gpg password, decrypts and reads my ~/.authinfo.gpg file which contains misc. passwords for all kinds of stuff, then parses it with awk and pipes the passwords into other agents like ssh-agent and decrypts my $HOME/locker folder, emacs also uses this file so it then (if internet is available) will auto log me in to freenode and my email
2020-01-28T10:43:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> pretty nuts password automation. I just got SICK of entering my password 100 times a day
2020-01-28T11:19:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-01-28T11:36:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > -> zlib Found conflict (/usr/bin/ls), adding choice
2020-01-28T11:36:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Looky looky what I'm working on
2020-01-28T11:36:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ignore me adding ls to zlib as an example :^)
2020-01-28T12:13:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/pull/94/files
2020-01-28T12:13:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> "kiss: initial alternatives system #94
2020-01-28T12:13:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> "
2020-01-28T12:13:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Should be done soonish
2020-01-28T12:13:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's a TODO in there
2020-01-28T12:24:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/290c
2020-01-28T12:34:59 #kisslinux <ilyaigpetrov> What philosophically different between Guix and KissLinux, why one should prefer KissLinux over Guix?
2020-01-28T12:36:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's up to you to decide.
2020-01-28T12:38:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-01-28T12:38:25 #kisslinux <merakor> Hya
2020-01-28T12:38:28 #kisslinux <ilyaigpetrov> o/
2020-01-28T12:38:35 #kisslinux <ilyaigpetrov> dylanaraps: why don't you base kisslinux on Guix (or at least use their Shepherd service manager)?
2020-01-28T12:39:04 #kisslinux <merakor> My web server is on carbs now
2020-01-28T12:39:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Here's a better question, why should I?
2020-01-28T12:40:40 #kisslinux <ilyaigpetrov> Because you don't want to reinvent the wheel and you want to embrace all the sweet features from Guix.
2020-01-28T12:40:51 #kisslinux <merakor> Uses only 50 mbs of ram altogether with http serving, tls tunneling, and the git server daemon
2020-01-28T12:41:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: Nice
2020-01-28T12:42:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS is a lot simpler than GUIX
2020-01-28T12:43:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> KISS also uses less software than GUIX
2020-01-28T12:43:26 #kisslinux <pltrz> dylanaraps: have you tried sabotage linux?
2020-01-28T12:43:38 #kisslinux <pltrz> and if so what did you think?
2020-01-28T12:45:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I like a lot of the choices made with Sabotage
2020-01-28T12:45:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's a lot I don't like too
2020-01-28T12:48:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> About GUIX; The plans and vision I have for KISS can't be done by basing on top of another distribution.
2020-01-28T12:49:00 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: I see you still get new testimonial-worthy messages everyday.
2020-01-28T12:49:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I quite like my wheel better. :)
2020-01-28T12:50:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Why doesn't GUIX base on KISS and embrace all of its sweet features?
2020-01-28T12:50:50 #kisslinux <merakor> The simple answer to "why didn't you base x on y" is "why didn't y base on z?"
2020-01-28T12:51:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Heh
2020-01-28T12:51:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> GUIX uses GLibc regardless no?
2020-01-28T12:52:05 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah and gnu coreutils
2020-01-28T12:52:14 #kisslinux <pltrz> gross
2020-01-28T12:53:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You also won't find a Code of Conduct in any KISS projects
2020-01-28T12:53:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or any moderation of any kind.
2020-01-28T12:53:44 #kisslinux <merakor> Besides I am pretty sure ludovic has received a similar message "why didn't you base guix on this other distro, I am so angry why do you reinvent the wheel grrr"
2020-01-28T12:53:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Notice how this channel has no OPs?
2020-01-28T12:53:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> They aren't needed.
2020-01-28T12:54:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :)
2020-01-28T12:54:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/pull/94
2020-01-28T12:57:01 #kisslinux <merakor> Looks nice,
2020-01-28T12:57:43 #kisslinux <merakor> So I have both linux-headers and linux-headers-lts
2020-01-28T12:57:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah, almost done with the bulk of it
2020-01-28T12:58:21 #kisslinux <merakor> Can this be used to satisfy the requirement of a package
2020-01-28T12:58:36 #kisslinux <merakor> Say a package says linux headers
2020-01-28T12:58:39 #kisslinux <merakor> And I have lts
2020-01-28T12:58:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No
2020-01-28T12:59:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Say you have two packages which both provide 'ls', this will automatically setup the ability to swap between which 'ls' you want to use
2020-01-28T12:59:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No changes to packages needed
2020-01-28T12:59:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All dynamic
2020-01-28T12:59:44 #kisslinux <merakor> I see
2020-01-28T12:59:47 #kisslinux <ilyaigpetrov> I'm new here. What's wrong with GLibc and gnu coreutils?
2020-01-28T13:00:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'kiss a coreutils /usr/bin/ls' will swap to using 'ls' from coreutils instead of busybox
2020-01-28T13:00:15 #kisslinux <merakor> So, like the way void xbps works, right?
2020-01-28T13:00:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Swapping back is the same
2020-01-28T13:00:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'kiss a' lists all alternatives
2020-01-28T13:01:10 #kisslinux <merakor> GNU tools in general are really big and have too many features
2020-01-28T13:01:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ilyaigpetrov: They're large and complex
2020-01-28T13:01:27 #kisslinux <ilyaigpetrov> thanks
2020-01-28T13:01:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> hey dylanaraps I have an  idea
2020-01-28T13:01:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-01-28T13:01:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> Let's rebase on guix
2020-01-28T13:02:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK
2020-01-28T13:02:36 #kisslinux <dzove855> yeah cool :D
2020-01-28T13:02:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: void xbps requires packages to specify what they provide no?
2020-01-28T13:03:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Alternatives are classified by groups, and a group contains a number of symbolic links which are applied when the group is set.
2020-01-28T13:03:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Void)
2020-01-28T13:03:49 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, I wasn't meaning how they handled it. I meant the concept.
2020-01-28T13:03:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Mine is simply: Detect conflict during install -> create alternative -> install package
2020-01-28T13:04:15 #kisslinux <merakor> That is a much simpler way
2020-01-28T13:04:33 #kisslinux <merakor> It will help me a lot switching to sbase
2020-01-28T13:04:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's a part of the package as well so it is removed when the package is removed automatically
2020-01-28T13:04:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's the idea
2020-01-28T13:04:52 #kisslinux <merakor> Since I don't want to remove busybox utilities
2020-01-28T13:05:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The output of `kiss a` (listing alts) can be fed directly back to kiss
2020-01-28T13:05:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (When swapping alts)
2020-01-28T13:05:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So you could do: `kiss a | grep ^sbase | while read -r line; do kiss a "$line"; done`
2020-01-28T13:05:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Tada
2020-01-28T13:06:12 #kisslinux <merakor> That's an awesome change
2020-01-28T13:06:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's simply an "interface" around moving two files and upating the manifests
2020-01-28T13:07:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> updating*
2020-01-28T13:10:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ilyaigpetrov: The number one reason for not basing on anything else (minus incompatible software choices) is that KISS is meant to be entirely maintainable by a single person.
2020-01-28T13:11:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Every user has the full repositories on their machine and is able to take over if they wish.
2020-01-28T13:11:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's no infrastructure to fail, lose, etc
2020-01-28T13:12:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's no need for me at all
2020-01-28T13:12:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Any user is capable of maintaining the distribution (on their machine or even for others)
2020-01-28T13:12:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> i mean, the community repo would be a tad sloppier without you, but yeah
2020-01-28T13:12:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Heh
2020-01-28T13:13:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Worst case (were something to happen to me, knock on wood) all it would take is a git remote change to a new location were someone to want to take over
2020-01-28T13:13:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Else, a user could just do it themselves with minimal effort
2020-01-28T13:14:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: It's on my todo to write a package linter which would pick up on most of my nitpicks
2020-01-28T13:14:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I have a partially working one already
2020-01-28T13:14:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :P
2020-01-28T13:15:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh my gawsh
2020-01-28T13:15:07 #kisslinux <adamantium> just quit
2020-01-28T13:15:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> im going to have nightmares about your nitpicker package
2020-01-28T13:15:26 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> oh my
2020-01-28T13:15:45 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> sometimes i hate muscle memory
2020-01-28T13:15:46 #kisslinux <lieuxnoir> brb
2020-01-28T13:15:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-01-28T13:15:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Old nick
2020-01-28T13:23:26 #kisslinux <merakor> The nouveau module is literally bigger than the rest of my kernel combined
2020-01-28T13:23:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-01-28T13:23:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > -> Swapping '/usr/bin/ls' from 'busybox' to 'zlib'
2020-01-28T13:24:26 #kisslinux <icyphox> to zlib?
2020-01-28T13:24:34 #kisslinux <icyphox> or is that just a test
2020-01-28T13:24:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Test
2020-01-28T13:24:42 #kisslinux <icyphox> ah
2020-01-28T13:24:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> zlib is my test package as it builds in zero time
2020-01-28T13:24:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Always :P
2020-01-28T13:25:30 #kisslinux <merakor> My desktop at home requires nouveau so I built my kernel with nouveau as a module. My previous total kernel size: 10.3M, Current size: 20.8M
2020-01-28T13:26:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> oof
2020-01-28T13:26:53 #kisslinux <merakor> I was planning on building a shared kernel for all of my systems, now I decided not to.
2020-01-28T13:28:53 #kisslinux <merakor> Only my laptop has high build speeds so I am building and exporting packages from this laptop to others.
2020-01-28T13:29:19 #kisslinux <merakor> My desktop can't build webkit
2020-01-28T13:29:23 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Might as well yank out the gpu and use your igpu
2020-01-28T13:29:33 #kisslinux <merakor> It terminates because it can't handle the ram requirement
2020-01-28T13:30:38 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh yeah, I could use my igpu instead of novideo
2020-01-28T13:31:20 #kisslinux <merakor> I don't do anything gpu intensive anyways.
2020-01-28T13:32:59 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Same here
2020-01-28T13:33:26 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Also means less heat, noise and power consumption
2020-01-28T13:34:36 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> I guess noise is no big deal with more recent cards where the fans simply don't run at all below a certain temp
2020-01-28T13:35:05 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah my laptop is dead silent
2020-01-28T13:35:34 #kisslinux <merakor> But you can literally hear my desktop computer outside of the house
2020-01-28T13:36:00 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> lol
2020-01-28T13:36:39 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> I was planning to build a fanless desktop but that stuff is expensive
2020-01-28T13:37:15 #kisslinux <merakor> I have a Pi that I usually use for desktop
2020-01-28T13:38:18 #kisslinux <merakor> It amazes me how it can be faster than my actual desktop yet much more efficient in terms of electricity
2020-01-28T13:38:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> what's a good pi to get if i wanted to build a lightweight desktop for somebody. with wifi
2020-01-28T13:39:49 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> The latest?
2020-01-28T13:40:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh is that all there is to it
2020-01-28T13:40:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok
2020-01-28T13:40:32 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> I tried using a pi as desktop but I failed to compile mpv/ffmpeg with raspberry pi suppport
2020-01-28T13:41:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/6gxw
2020-01-28T13:41:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> TADA
2020-01-28T13:41:10 #kisslinux <merakor> I have a pi4 with 4G ram
2020-01-28T13:41:53 #kisslinux <merakor> Although now I think that even 4GB of ram for pi is too plenty
2020-01-28T13:42:33 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Even with a modern webbroser?
2020-01-28T13:42:40 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Browser*
2020-01-28T13:42:55 #kisslinux <merakor> Compiling is always the problem since most binary distributions don't do them natively
2020-01-28T13:43:06 #kisslinux <merakor> I mean I never tried firefox
2020-01-28T13:43:09 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Right
2020-01-28T13:43:11 #kisslinux <merakor> I always use surf
2020-01-28T13:43:14 #kisslinux <merakor> Which is webkit
2020-01-28T13:43:33 #kisslinux <merakor> But the experience was just as the same with my laptop
2020-01-28T13:43:54 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Nicu, dylanaraps
2020-01-28T13:44:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/pull/94/files
2020-01-28T13:44:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Code so far
2020-01-28T13:44:58 #kisslinux <merakor> That's pretty good
2020-01-28T13:45:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Let me modify sbase and try it
2020-01-28T13:45:20 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> My pi is just a server running btpd and my irc client
2020-01-28T13:45:44 #kisslinux <merakor> I have way too many pis
2020-01-28T13:46:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: How do I "expand" sbase-box?
2020-01-28T13:46:21 #kisslinux <merakor> sudo make install
2020-01-28T13:46:29 #kisslinux <merakor> make install*
2020-01-28T13:46:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Duh
2020-01-28T13:46:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-28T13:46:37 #kisslinux <merakor> Sure thingg
2020-01-28T13:46:39 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh sorry
2020-01-28T13:46:47 #kisslinux <merakor> make install-sbase-box
2020-01-28T13:46:53 #kisslinux <merakor> or make sbase-box-install
2020-01-28T13:47:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-01-28T13:48:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's a lot of utils
2020-01-28T13:48:29 #kisslinux <merakor> Sorry for giving three seperate answers :D
2020-01-28T13:48:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All good
2020-01-28T13:49:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/zsdq
2020-01-28T13:49:06 #kisslinux <merakor> You can still do sbase-box --list, though
2020-01-28T13:49:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Detection works
2020-01-28T13:49:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > sed: unmatched '|'
2020-01-28T13:49:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's an oops in the middle though
2020-01-28T13:49:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/33j8
2020-01-28T13:49:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> be careful expanding sbase
2020-01-28T13:49:59 #kisslinux <adamantium> :D
2020-01-28T13:50:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I just did it to the system. :^)
2020-01-28T13:50:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> omg
2020-01-28T13:50:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/33j8
2020-01-28T13:50:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Look at all those alts
2020-01-28T13:50:30 #kisslinux <adamantium> thats a good way to break kiss
2020-01-28T13:50:41 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah
2020-01-28T13:50:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> i  hope you can  make it 100% compat dylanaraps
2020-01-28T13:51:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> that'd be epic to be busybox free.......
2020-01-28T13:57:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: That's the idea
2020-01-28T14:00:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I need to somehow make sed treat the search/replace as plain text (no regex)
2020-01-28T14:00:31 #kisslinux <merakor> https://termbin.com/1yg7
2020-01-28T14:00:33 #kisslinux <merakor> nice
2020-01-28T14:01:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Note: It's not done yet
2020-01-28T14:01:05 #kisslinux <merakor> Which line is that sed=
2020-01-28T14:01:15 #kisslinux <merakor> s/=/?/
2020-01-28T14:01:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Basically, /usr/bin/[ causes sed to fail
2020-01-28T14:01:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Due to unmatched []
2020-01-28T14:01:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Exact line number is unknown in this case
2020-01-28T14:02:25 #kisslinux <merakor> You can do a sed for regex
2020-01-28T14:02:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I need to either escape the string or make sed do no regex
2020-01-28T14:03:11 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah that's an issue, it's nice that you tested sbase
2020-01-28T14:03:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Damage is nothing really :P
2020-01-28T14:03:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just the leftover sbase>usr>bin>[ file
2020-01-28T14:04:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I have an idea
2020-01-28T14:06:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nvm
2020-01-28T14:06:50 #kisslinux <merakor> what was it?
2020-01-28T14:07:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sed -i '/bla/d' file
2020-01-28T14:07:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can't do: sed -i '|bla|d' file
2020-01-28T14:08:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Basically, delete the line and then append the new one to the bottom
2020-01-28T14:09:00 #kisslinux <dzove855> actually i don't know sed can be forced to not interpret it instead of escaping the char.
2020-01-28T14:09:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You're right
2020-01-28T14:09:34 #kisslinux <dzove855> that's why i always use perl for this kind of stuff but i hope you don't will
2020-01-28T14:09:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I won't
2020-01-28T14:09:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> stackoverflow is full of perl, ruby, python and nodejs solutions...
2020-01-28T14:10:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> God
2020-01-28T14:10:04 #kisslinux <dzove855> good boy :D
2020-01-28T14:11:12 #kisslinux <dzove855> actually ou could use inside sed $(printf '%q' "$line") but not sure if it is posix
2020-01-28T14:11:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Dunno if %q is posixx
2020-01-28T14:11:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nope
2020-01-28T14:11:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> bashism
2020-01-28T14:11:57 #kisslinux <dzove855> erf..
2020-01-28T14:12:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Let me see how %q works and mimic it
2020-01-28T14:12:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Using sed...
2020-01-28T14:12:58 #kisslinux <merakor> what is the sed expression you are trying to escape
2020-01-28T14:13:08 #kisslinux <merakor> sed '|bla|d' ?
2020-01-28T14:13:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No no
2020-01-28T14:13:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sed -i 's|/usr/bin/[|stuff here|' file
2020-01-28T14:13:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> '[' is the problem
2020-01-28T14:13:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> "Unmatched | ............."
2020-01-28T14:14:25 #kisslinux <dzove855> ?
2020-01-28T14:14:31 #kisslinux <dzove855> oups wrong chan
2020-01-28T14:14:48 #kisslinux <merakor> You could form the sed expression outside of sed
2020-01-28T14:15:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2020-01-28T14:15:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's what I'm going to do
2020-01-28T14:16:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Now to find all problem chars
2020-01-28T14:17:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Actually...
2020-01-28T14:17:46 #kisslinux <dzove855> escape every char haha
2020-01-28T14:17:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sed 's/([|()/\&/g'
2020-01-28T14:18:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Disgusting already
2020-01-28T14:18:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just for [ and (
2020-01-28T14:19:09 #kisslinux <merakor> Ah yes I love sed expressions for escaping special characters
2020-01-28T14:19:14 #kisslinux <merakor> Eyebleach
2020-01-28T14:19:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's a bit better with 'sed -E'
2020-01-28T14:19:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Is '-E' posix though?
2020-01-28T14:20:02 #kisslinux <merakor> I don't think so
2020-01-28T14:20:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nope
2020-01-28T14:21:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Actually, only [ is an issue
2020-01-28T14:21:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ( and { are fine
2020-01-28T14:21:59 #kisslinux <merakor> [ is the only program that uses [ anyways
2020-01-28T14:22:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sed 's/([|$|^)/\&/g'
2020-01-28T14:22:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also $ and ^
2020-01-28T14:23:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sed 's/([|$|^)/\&/g'
2020-01-28T14:25:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sed 's/[]/$*.^[]/\&/g'
2020-01-28T14:25:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Winner winner chicken dinner
2020-01-28T14:25:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> How awful
2020-01-28T14:25:51 #kisslinux <merakor> This is why I hate regex
2020-01-28T14:26:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ooh it handles forward slashes too
2020-01-28T14:31:12 #kisslinux <dzove855> that's the cleanest sed i saw in my life
2020-01-28T14:42:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> [sbase] owns '/usr/bin/['
2020-01-28T14:43:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I had to escape all 3 instances of sed
2020-01-28T14:44:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Both find/replac
2020-01-28T14:44:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> e
2020-01-28T14:44:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I pushed an awful commit
2020-01-28T14:44:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I need to move it to a func
2020-01-28T14:49:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/pull/94/files#diff-4188679c1d8a284ccc41a6b601869e05R151
2020-01-28T14:49:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Much nicer
2020-01-28T14:49:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I should use printf
2020-01-28T14:55:07 #kisslinux <dzove855> actually i think i will create biss (kiss in pure bash) just for fun
2020-01-28T14:56:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll help a little :P
2020-01-28T14:56:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will be a lot easier than what I'm doing
2020-01-28T14:56:50 #kisslinux <dzove855> will start tonight haha
2020-01-28T14:56:54 #kisslinux <dzove855> ooh yeah
2020-01-28T15:01:55 #kisslinux <merakor> Did you remove sudo and doas?
2020-01-28T15:02:11 #kisslinux <merakor> From the choices branch
2020-01-28T15:02:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I did
2020-01-28T15:02:36 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh okay
2020-01-28T15:03:03 #kisslinux <merakor> I just thought you didn't implement it on alternatives
2020-01-28T15:03:13 #kisslinux <merakor> Until I removed a package
2020-01-28T15:03:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Read the comments in the source in master
2020-01-28T15:04:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Last thing to do is add a hook to pkg_remove().
2020-01-28T15:04:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Say you remove the package which owns the current 'ls'
2020-01-28T15:05:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Should kiss automatically use an alternative if available?
2020-01-28T15:05:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> What happens if there are multiple alternatives?.. lol
2020-01-28T15:07:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You know what, I don't think anything auto should happen in this instance.
2020-01-28T15:07:48 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, it would make the code way more complex
2020-01-28T15:08:11 #kisslinux <merakor> If the user is removing a package they should be aware of the thing they are doing
2020-01-28T15:08:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> yup
2020-01-28T15:09:09 #kisslinux <merakor> They should either do alternatives before removing a package, or should be keeping in mind what is being removed from their system
2020-01-28T15:09:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just some finishing touches now
2020-01-28T15:09:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ya
2020-01-28T15:09:19 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> dylanaraps, I think awk and an mv -f would be cleaner in this case
2020-01-28T15:09:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Aarg[m]: Will look into it
2020-01-28T15:10:15 #kisslinux <merakor> Looking forward to the next release
2020-01-28T15:10:32 #kisslinux <merakor> Having an alternatives system is a powerful feature
2020-01-28T15:12:03 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Just use -vvar=val and then use normal string comparison `$0 == val { ... }'
2020-01-28T15:12:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-01-28T15:14:05 #kisslinux <merakor> ouch sbase find doesn't work well with kiss
2020-01-28T15:16:08 #kisslinux <merakor> https://termbin.com/2tjh
2020-01-28T15:17:11 #kisslinux <merakor> Adding this as an issue
2020-01-28T15:18:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nic
2020-01-28T15:18:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> e
2020-01-28T15:18:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That's my fault
2020-01-28T15:20:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh
2020-01-28T15:20:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's failing on: find path path path -mindepth 1 -maxdepth1 -name "$1"
2020-01-28T15:21:16 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah the manpage doesn't have mindepth or mandepth
2020-01-28T15:21:21 #kisslinux <merakor> I think it's not POSIX
2020-01-28T15:21:44 #kisslinux <merakor> But the error seems otherwise
2020-01-28T15:22:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> oof
2020-01-28T15:22:27 #kisslinux <merakor> Wait a second
2020-01-28T15:22:33 #kisslinux <merakor> I think it might be an issue
2020-01-28T15:22:44 #kisslinux <merakor> 's/it/the build/'
2020-01-28T15:22:58 #kisslinux <merakor> None of the tools work as intended
2020-01-28T15:23:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> They aren't posix
2020-01-28T15:23:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> -mindepth/-maxdepth
2020-01-28T15:23:40 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah but sbase is pretty problematic regardless of that right now
2020-01-28T15:23:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-01-28T15:24:22 #kisslinux <merakor> That's really weird
2020-01-28T15:24:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> brb
2020-01-28T15:26:02 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh okay so sbase doesn't work on the tty/terminal when you first build it
2020-01-28T15:26:28 #kisslinux <merakor> Whatever command you type it just gives its usage output
2020-01-28T15:26:53 #kisslinux <merakor> But when you spawn a new shell session the problem does not persist
2020-01-28T15:26:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-01-28T15:28:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Works for me
2020-01-28T15:29:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> !> Package 'sbase' conflicts with another package
2020-01-28T15:29:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> !> Run 'KISS_CHOICE=1 kiss i sbase' to add conflicts
2020-01-28T15:29:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> !> as alternatives.
2020-01-28T15:29:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thoughts on this?
2020-01-28T15:29:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The idea is to make it entirely opt-in
2020-01-28T15:29:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The problem is handling the user installing say firefox AND firefox-bin
2020-01-28T15:30:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Alternatives becomes hell in this case
2020-01-28T15:31:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So rather than try to detect whether or not alternatives are "legit" or not
2020-01-28T15:31:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's better left to the user.
2020-01-28T15:35:30 #kisslinux <merakor> What is your source for sbase Dylan?
2020-01-28T15:36:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The community package
2020-01-28T15:36:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > make DESTDIR="$1" PREFIX=/usr sbase-box-install
2020-01-28T15:39:23 #kisslinux <merakor> sbase is really unstable
2020-01-28T15:39:49 #kisslinux <merakor> ls fixed itself after spawning a new shell
2020-01-28T15:39:51 #kisslinux <merakor> cp did not
2020-01-28T15:41:40 #kisslinux <merakor> I have never tested those simpler utilities before
2020-01-28T15:42:06 #kisslinux <merakor> Would have expected for something like grep to malfunction rather than cp and ls
2020-01-28T15:43:02 #kisslinux <merakor> sbase is not even version 0.1 right now anyways
2020-01-28T15:44:40 #kisslinux <merakor> It did function now
2020-01-28T15:44:55 #kisslinux <merakor> Although I didn't do anything?
2020-01-28T15:45:36 #kisslinux <merakor> It worked when I called it with full path /usr/local/bin/cp
2020-01-28T15:45:47 #kisslinux <merakor> but not with cp
2020-01-28T15:46:08 #kisslinux <aarng> dylanaraps: https://termbin.com/gaxw
2020-01-28T15:46:14 #kisslinux <aarng> only slightly better
2020-01-28T15:46:20 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh because I have dumb ass aliases that aren't POSIX
2020-01-28T15:46:33 #kisslinux <aarng> you could also do a read while loop instead tbh
2020-01-28T16:01:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> aarng: The one benefit of sed is that I can use the regex_escape function for all of the sed calls
2020-01-28T16:01:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> while read would work here though
2020-01-28T16:03:50 #kisslinux <aarng> oh, didn't know it's used in other places too
2020-01-28T16:09:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The less different utlities I use the better
2020-01-28T16:09:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Makes it easier to run kiss on other coreutils
2020-01-28T16:19:31 #kisslinux <E5ten> The righteous pursuit of removing uses of external commands in scripts :)
2020-01-28T16:19:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Alternatives feature has been merged
2020-01-28T16:22:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK. Adding one last feature.
2020-01-28T16:23:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If # of conflicts < threshold, do it automatically.
2020-01-28T16:24:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Else it's opt-in.
2020-01-28T16:25:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This will allow us to clean up the build scripts containing deletions of 1, 2 or 3 conflicting programs.
2020-01-28T16:27:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (ncurses is a simple example)
2020-01-28T16:28:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Also python, which will allow you to change the default 'python' bin version)
2020-01-28T16:31:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: can i get feedback to make this better sometime when you're bored https://github.com/a-schaefers/spm
2020-01-28T16:31:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> I made it a long time ago
2020-01-28T16:32:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> Just tried cleaning it up, the worst part is the config file has redundant stanzas and I wish I knew how to make it cleaner, with some kind of loop or something.
2020-01-28T16:32:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Sure
2020-01-28T16:33:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> I think you could actually turn the script into something that people would use
2020-01-28T16:33:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> *lol*
2020-01-28T16:33:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/releases/tag/untagged-7d1b528d2829a3d9dc8a
2020-01-28T16:33:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Here's the draft for the next kiss release
2020-01-28T16:33:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I think it's ready for 1.0
2020-01-28T16:34:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> Not until we get reproduceable builds with lock files and add an automated build system
2020-01-28T16:35:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;)
2020-01-28T16:40:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/lkbk
2020-01-28T16:40:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Here's some fixes
2020-01-28T16:40:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I probably broke something though
2020-01-28T16:40:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah, I didn't update the thresholds list in the loop
2020-01-28T16:43:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> HEHE
2020-01-28T16:45:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: rm -rf "$conf_dir/state"/* > /dev/null 2>&1 #shh your comment about not having -rr
2020-01-28T16:45:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> it is globbing /* the directory
2020-01-28T16:45:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-01-28T16:45:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> just need to kill the files
2020-01-28T16:45:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-01-28T16:45:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> in that one spot
2020-01-28T16:45:58 #kisslinux <aarng> can't you use read instead of cat, adamantium?
2020-01-28T16:46:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> probably aarng IDK i'm still a script noob
2020-01-28T16:47:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://termbin.com/njzcm
2020-01-28T16:47:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :D
2020-01-28T16:51:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> ya idk how to use the set thing you did dylanaraps
2020-01-28T16:56:39 #kisslinux <aarng> adamantium, you generally don't need cat unless you really want to read multiple lines in one go
2020-01-28T16:57:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> How do you use read to with my example, then
2020-01-28T16:57:10 #kisslinux <aarng> and especially stuff in /sys is just a single word/line
2020-01-28T16:57:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> cool
2020-01-28T16:57:17 #kisslinux <aarng> just `read file`
2020-01-28T16:57:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> i tried that
2020-01-28T16:57:30 #kisslinux <aarng> eeh
2020-01-28T16:57:33 #kisslinux <aarng> read var file
2020-01-28T16:57:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> bash: read: `/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/status': not a valid identifier
2020-01-28T16:58:03 #kisslinux <aarng> but you have to be careful with backslash escapes, which read interprets unless you use -r
2020-01-28T16:58:54 #kisslinux <aarng> and one more caveat, it strips leading and trailing field separator chars from the end and beginning of the string
2020-01-28T17:00:02 #kisslinux <aarng> read var <file
2020-01-28T17:00:03 #kisslinux <aarng> sry
2020-01-28T17:00:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/idunham/tinyxserver
2020-01-28T17:00:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Woah
2020-01-28T17:02:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also
2020-01-28T17:02:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> http://www.microwindows.org/
2020-01-28T17:04:16 #kisslinux <adamantium> thanks aarng
2020-01-28T17:10:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: https://termbin.com/98id
2020-01-28T17:10:53 #kisslinux <adamantium> Can you tell me how to implement your set -- 99 80 40 20 10 5 section with https://termbin.com/98id
2020-01-28T17:11:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> sorry, pasted twice, my question is how to implement your set -- with the threshholds section.
2020-01-28T17:11:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That populates '$@" with that list
2020-01-28T17:11:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> "$@"*
2020-01-28T17:11:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-01-28T17:11:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So you have a list instead of a "fake" list (a string)
2020-01-28T17:11:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> right
2020-01-28T17:12:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> not both "$@"*  .... i have to choose $@ or $* correct?
2020-01-28T17:14:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That was me correcting myself
2020-01-28T17:14:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> "$@" or "$*" yes
2020-01-28T17:14:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> "$*" is no different to how you had it though
2020-01-28T17:16:07 #kisslinux <adamantium> k got this
2020-01-28T17:16:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> time to test
2020-01-28T17:16:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> it's surprising low resources btw considering it has to poll every X seconds
2020-01-28T17:16:59 #kisslinux <adamantium> i remember last year i was thinking hard about how to do as few things repeatedly as possible in this script
2020-01-28T17:18:34 #kisslinux <adamantium> okay dylanaraps it works with all your changes. COOL
2020-01-28T17:18:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> going to push it
2020-01-28T17:20:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :D
2020-01-28T17:21:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: is there no way to make the config better
2020-01-28T17:21:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> it feels redundant
2020-01-28T17:21:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> lmao i  also have a solo camelCase var. yolo
2020-01-28T17:27:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll take a look in a bit
2020-01-28T17:32:11 #kisslinux <E5ten> lol you don't need to do echo "$*" | tr ' ' 'n' | while read -r state; do, they're already your positional parameters just loop over them with 'for state in "$@"; do' or 'for state do'
2020-01-28T17:33:15 #kisslinux <E5ten> adamantium: and instead of checking if $batt_percent is equal to $state and separately if it's less than $state you can use -le to check if it's less than or equal to
2020-01-28T17:35:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok cool. im about to sleep, too tired right now. im going to literally copy and paste your suggestion to my notes. thanks E5ten
2020-01-28T17:36:27 #kisslinux <E5ten> you shouldn't need to use >/dev/null 2>&1 with rm -f, since the config dir is yours there should never be a dir in it, and rm -f doesn't print an error message if a file doesn't exist
2020-01-28T17:36:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> ya dev nulls suck
2020-01-28T17:38:11 #kisslinux <E5ten> also, imo don't bother checking if the script is already running and just rely on the user knowing not to run it twice? but if you do need to check don't use pidof cuz it's not POSIX
2020-01-28T17:40:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> ya its overenginnered shit
2020-01-28T17:40:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> thanks dude
2020-01-28T17:40:34 #kisslinux <E5ten> actually I think what'd be best is on startup make the script create a file in the config dir like "running" and remove it on exit, and then have it check for that file before doing anything and die with the "SPM is already running" thing if it exists
2020-01-28T17:41:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> that is a neat approach
2020-01-28T17:42:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> hey E5ten i wonder if you might send me a termbin fixing the "$*" | tr ' ' 'n' | while read -r mess I've made to show me what you mean. ::D
2020-01-28T17:43:19 #kisslinux <E5ten> That line can  just be replaced with for state do
2020-01-28T17:43:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> Which is equivalent to for state in "$@"; do
2020-01-28T17:43:49 #kisslinux <E5ten> Which loops over the positional parameters
2020-01-28T17:46:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> E5ten: https://termbin.com/1bkm
2020-01-28T17:46:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> i commented the old line, so like such?
2020-01-28T17:46:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> It sure looks a lot more sane to me
2020-01-28T17:46:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> I found that scrap a while back trying to switch from using bash arrays to posix, someone said to do it the other way, but i like hte looks of your way better
2020-01-28T17:47:21 #kisslinux <E5ten> It's not just the look that's better lol, that's the right way to loop over the positional parameters
2020-01-28T17:47:41 #kisslinux <E5ten> In this case they would never contain a space, but if they did your method would split one parameter that has a space in it into 2
2020-01-28T17:48:59 #kisslinux <E5ten> Think of $@ as a bash array
2020-01-28T17:49:10 #kisslinux <E5ten> It's just that in POSIX sh you only get one array
2020-01-28T17:49:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> used -le now. good
2020-01-28T17:50:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> Thanks so much. Couldn't figure out posix array for my life til now
2020-01-28T17:52:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> ya it's way better
2020-01-28T17:53:54 #kisslinux <aarng> btw: https://termbin.com/p7lg
2020-01-28T17:53:56 #kisslinux <aarng> opinions?
2020-01-28T17:54:39 #kisslinux <aarng> 2 doesn't even need the backslash
2020-01-28T17:54:42 #kisslinux <E5ten> adamantium: Touch calls can be replaced with : >file (the : isn't necessary but without it you'll get a shellcheck warning)
2020-01-28T18:01:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> I think 4 is not hte same in all cases
2020-01-28T18:02:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> idk
2020-01-28T18:02:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> thanks E5ten good thinking on that again
2020-01-28T18:03:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> It's like a lost art, good shell scripts
2020-01-28T18:05:06 #kisslinux <aarng> I tried all cases, should be good
2020-01-28T18:08:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-01-28T18:17:44 #kisslinux <merakor> adamantium: You should probably switch sbase community package to the official git repository.
2020-01-28T18:17:57 #kisslinux <merakor> Now that we have git functionality
2020-01-28T18:18:07 #kisslinux <merakor> They have also pulled michael's patches to sbase
2020-01-28T18:18:46 #kisslinux <merakor> They still haven't pulled michael's patches to the suckless repository for ubase though
2020-01-28T18:19:14 #kisslinux <merakor> It still doesn't build without Michael's patches
2020-01-28T18:19:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> Ok  merakor.
2020-01-28T18:19:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> Thanks
2020-01-28T18:19:37 #kisslinux <merakor> Sure thing
2020-01-28T18:19:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> Will try to do it tonight
2020-01-28T18:24:59 #kisslinux <aarng> dylanaraps, libva-utils does not depend on libva and fails to build
2020-01-28T18:26:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> aarng: Will fix
2020-01-28T18:27:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fixed
2020-01-28T18:27:20 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: you said something like `kiss a | grep ^sbase | while read -r line; do kiss a "$line"; done`
2020-01-28T18:27:30 #kisslinux <merakor> Here is an issue though
2020-01-28T18:27:36 #kisslinux <merakor> Now that sudo is gone
2020-01-28T18:27:43 #kisslinux <merakor> I enter like a billion passwords
2020-01-28T18:27:50 #kisslinux <aarng> cheers
2020-01-28T18:28:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: I know
2020-01-28T18:28:17 #kisslinux <merakor> Are you going to keep it like that?
2020-01-28T18:29:10 #kisslinux <merakor> I'll try to do `yes 'mypassword' | kiss a $line` for the memes
2020-01-28T18:29:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: I'll fix it
2020-01-28T18:30:20 #kisslinux <merakor> Okay.
2020-01-28T18:30:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Maybe take input over stdin one per line
2020-01-28T18:30:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> So you can pipe into 'kiss a'
2020-01-28T18:31:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> kiss a | grep ^sbase | kiss a
2020-01-28T18:31:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-01-28T18:32:29 #kisslinux <merakor> That would make sense, actually.
2020-01-28T18:33:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It would have to be 'kiss a -' to read from stdin
2020-01-28T18:34:25 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah
2020-01-28T18:34:38 #kisslinux <merakor> I am trying to solve the `find` issue for sbase
2020-01-28T18:34:54 #kisslinux <merakor> It sucks that mindepth is not POSIX
2020-01-28T18:35:41 #kisslinux <merakor> most non-POSIX stuff GNU enforces are actually useless
2020-01-28T18:35:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> find is kinda unusable without those
2020-01-28T18:36:02 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah
2020-01-28T18:36:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: Pushed the stdin feature
2020-01-28T18:38:20 #kisslinux <merakor> > command not found: mv
2020-01-28T18:38:25 #kisslinux <merakor> now that's nice
2020-01-28T18:38:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-01-28T18:39:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Let me fix that
2020-01-28T18:40:40 #kisslinux <merakor> I manually did a mv with busybox
2020-01-28T18:44:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fixed
2020-01-28T18:44:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Swapped first 'mv' to 'cp' to ensure the swap never leaves the package manager without a utility it needs during the swap.
2020-01-28T18:46:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> aiight this thing is DONE
2020-01-28T18:46:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> creates its' own config now and stops bitching
2020-01-28T18:46:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://github.com/a-schaefers/spm
2020-01-28T18:50:28 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: sbase sed doesn't work with kiss either :D
2020-01-28T18:54:43 #kisslinux <adamantium> i think the find had issues too iirc
2020-01-28T18:54:52 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah
2020-01-28T18:55:02 #kisslinux <merakor> I am reverting to busybox :(
2020-01-28T18:55:09 #kisslinux <mforney> merakor: if you run into bugs with sbase, please report them (preferably with a patch), so they can get fixed
2020-01-28T18:55:23 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh hey michael
2020-01-28T18:55:45 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah the issue is the compatability rather than bugs
2020-01-28T18:58:42 #kisslinux <merakor> I only had issues with ubase, but your patches fix them.
2020-01-28T18:59:56 #kisslinux <aarng> no -i in suckless sed, merakor?
2020-01-28T18:59:57 #kisslinux <mforney> dylanaraps: regarding sed -E, it's accepted for posix-next (http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=528), so i wouldn't refrain from using it
2020-01-28T19:00:45 #kisslinux <merakor> aarng: Nope
2020-01-28T19:01:30 #kisslinux <mforney> sed -i was proposed and rejected for inclusion in posix because implementations have conflicting behavior that can't be standardized: http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=530
2020-01-28T19:01:42 #kisslinux <merakor> sed -i is not POSIX, but not having it is not an issue
2020-01-28T19:01:57 #kisslinux <merakor> you could manually do it via shell
2020-01-28T19:02:03 #kisslinux <mforney> yeah, it's easy enough to just redirect to a temporary file and then rename
2020-01-28T19:02:10 #kisslinux <aarng> yeah, just write a wrapper
2020-01-28T19:02:25 #kisslinux <aarng> or use ed :p
2020-01-28T19:02:32 #kisslinux <mforney> sed expr file > file.tmp && mv file.tmp file
2020-01-28T19:04:32 #kisslinux <mforney> merakor: yeah, ubase is currently unmaintained. i need to reach out to the current maintainer to see if he's okay with me maintaining it
2020-01-28T19:04:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK.
2020-01-28T19:04:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will write a sed wrapper function now
2020-01-28T19:05:24 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, I have mailed Dimitris the other day and didn't have any response
2020-01-28T19:05:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's only 'sed -i' which is the issue right?
2020-01-28T19:05:55 #kisslinux <merakor> I was going to ask him to add a source tarball for sinit 1.1
2020-01-28T19:06:23 #kisslinux <merakor> By the other day, I mean it was weeks ago
2020-01-28T19:06:32 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: yup
2020-01-28T19:08:57 #kisslinux <mforney> i think an 'inplace' function might be kind of useful, for other tools as well. inplace() { file=$1; shift; "$@" < "$1" > "$1.tmp" && mv "$1.tmp" "$1"; }
2020-01-28T19:10:09 #kisslinux <mforney> could use it with awk, sort, cut, grep, etc
2020-01-28T19:10:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Neat
2020-01-28T19:11:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's actually only one other place that could be used
2020-01-28T19:11:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's 3 'sed -i' instances and one separate instance of 'sort' which uses a temporary file
2020-01-28T19:19:03 #kisslinux <aarng> I'd still be pro ed for the things you do in kiss but busybox ed doesn't even have -s
2020-01-28T19:20:33 #kisslinux <E5ten> I'm conflicted between which sed -i choice is worse cuz on one hand optional args are stupid but on the other hand who ever wants to use the backup feature of sed -i I wish it didn't have an argument at all and I can do that with the optional arg -i but not with BSD's required arg
2020-01-28T19:22:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's so handy...
2020-01-28T19:22:36 #kisslinux <E5ten> the backup feature or -i in general?
2020-01-28T19:22:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> -i in general
2020-01-28T19:22:46 #kisslinux <E5ten> agreed
2020-01-28T19:22:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Never used the backup feature
2020-01-28T19:23:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Two of these 'sed -i' calls must run as root so I have to workaround this issue now
2020-01-28T19:23:24 #kisslinux <E5ten> I do not understand why the backup feature exists if you want a backup just copy the file first
2020-01-28T19:23:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll push my commit so you can see
2020-01-28T19:23:38 #kisslinux <merakor> dylanaraps: to master?
2020-01-28T19:23:39 #kisslinux <E5ten> if the people who created -i just did that it could be entirely argument free and that would be so much nicer
2020-01-28T19:23:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: yes
2020-01-28T19:24:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> oops
2020-01-28T19:24:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hang on
2020-01-28T19:24:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > sed: unmatched '/'
2020-01-28T19:24:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hang on
2020-01-28T19:24:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Still borked
2020-01-28T19:26:04 #kisslinux <E5ten> mforney: I'm gonna make a PR for the samurai one-line thing, so that if you decide you're willing to accept adding any more ifdefs but have problems with the code you can comment on those
2020-01-28T19:26:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: Wait 5 pls
2020-01-28T19:27:07 #kisslinux <merakor> Sure, it's okay
2020-01-28T19:28:14 #kisslinux <mforney> E5ten: okay, thanks
2020-01-28T19:32:42 #kisslinux <aarng> dylanaraps: https://termbin.com/4221
2020-01-28T19:34:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> aarng: The issue is that this may need to run as root through 'su'
2020-01-28T19:34:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Actually, that'd be fine
2020-01-28T19:35:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Neat
2020-01-28T19:49:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hm, busybox ed seems to fail with / in the string
2020-01-28T19:50:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > : ed: unknown option for substitute
2020-01-28T19:50:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This appears and it fails when the string contains escape slashes
2020-01-28T19:53:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It works when I replace the separator
2020-01-28T19:55:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Within the RE, the RE delimiter itself can be used as a literal character if it is preceded by a backslash.
2020-01-28T19:55:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> From the POSIX spec
2020-01-28T19:55:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> busybox bug? :(
2020-01-28T19:58:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah, busybox also fails with all escaped forward slashes
2020-01-28T20:04:04 #kisslinux <aarng> rip
2020-01-28T20:04:29 #kisslinux <aarng> seems it didn't get any love at all
2020-01-28T20:06:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I also need to match the whole line
2020-01-28T20:09:49 #kisslinux <aarng> oh I see, it doesn't even have ^ and $
2020-01-28T20:10:06 #kisslinux <aarng> yeah, forget it then, busybox ed sucks hard unfortunately
2020-01-28T20:10:40 #kisslinux <konimex> for sinit I think at this point since kiss already supports commit hash we should point there instead of asking for a tarball version
2020-01-28T20:11:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium:
2020-01-28T20:13:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-01-28T20:19:58 #kisslinux <mforney> i'm unconvinced of the value of the single commit for sinit 1.1 vs 1.0. see https://lists.suckless.org/hackers/1803/15983.html. as far as i can tell from the source (and this matches results from my testing), init will get SIGCHLD, even if the process died and the original parent ignored SIGCHLD: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/kernel/exit.c#n586
2020-01-28T20:23:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Noted
2020-01-28T20:23:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will ask adamantium to make the change
2020-01-28T20:23:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> revert to 1.0 ?
2020-01-28T20:24:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2020-01-28T20:24:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> hah
2020-01-28T20:24:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> making my job easy
2020-01-28T20:24:20 #kisslinux <mforney> it does no harm, but as far as i can tell, has no benefit
2020-01-28T20:24:38 #kisslinux <mforney> (at least on linux)
2020-01-28T20:25:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Replacing 'sed -i' is a little tricky here
2020-01-28T20:26:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 1) I need to be able to match the whole line (busybox ed or even POSIX ed can't(?))
2020-01-28T20:27:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 2) The temporary file business needs to work over say 'su'/'sudo' (tee works here probably)
2020-01-28T20:27:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 3) It needs to accept escaped forward slashes (busybox ed fails here)
2020-01-28T20:29:28 #kisslinux <E5ten> how big can the file be expected to be/would it be reasonable to just save it in a variable, printf '%sn' "$var" | sed 'exp' > file
2020-01-28T20:30:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The file is a package manifest
2020-01-28T20:30:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can be anywhere from 20~ lines to 5000+ lines
2020-01-28T20:30:55 #kisslinux <E5ten> nevermind then lol
2020-01-28T20:31:26 #kisslinux <merakor> Can't you just do something like `sed 'exp' < manifest > manifest.bak && mv manifest.bak manifest`
2020-01-28T20:31:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> merakor: Nope
2020-01-28T20:32:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can't use shell redirection as the shell runs as a normal user
2020-01-28T20:32:19 #kisslinux <merakor> I see
2020-01-28T20:32:57 #kisslinux <merakor> can't you use tee, then?
2020-01-28T20:33:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Here's the idea I have now: https://termbin.com/x75e
2020-01-28T20:34:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This isn't 100% what it will look like once in kiss
2020-01-28T20:34:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just a general idea
2020-01-28T20:34:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> busybox sed seems to fail here though
2020-01-28T20:34:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Actually
2020-01-28T20:34:19 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh I see
2020-01-28T20:34:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I think our 'su' wrapper fails as stdin is blocke
2020-01-28T20:34:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> blocked*
2020-01-28T20:34:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Great
2020-01-28T20:34:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ah
2020-01-28T20:35:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It fails as stdin is used for password input
2020-01-28T20:35:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'tee' can't be used then
2020-01-28T20:35:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is a 10/10 situation
2020-01-28T20:36:07 #kisslinux <mforney> why does this need to run with elevated privileges?
2020-01-28T20:36:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is for the alternatives feature which touches the filesystem
2020-01-28T20:36:26 #kisslinux <merakor> It edits the manifest files in /var/db/kiss/installed
2020-01-28T20:36:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'sed' is used here to rewrite a line in a package's manifest
2020-01-28T20:39:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I wonder if I could use 'ed' to find and delete the whole line and then insert the new one
2020-01-28T20:42:28 #kisslinux <mforney> does `dosu 'sed expr manifest > manifest.bak && mv manifest.bak manifest'` work? since you are using `su -c "$*"` anyway
2020-01-28T20:44:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> mforney: I'm trying to do it in a function but the issue is that the function may also run as a normal user.
2020-01-28T20:44:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I could use that in the two places it needs root though.
2020-01-28T20:45:54 #kisslinux <merakor> > doas: Operation not permitted
2020-01-28T20:46:47 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh sorry this is doas not dosu
2020-01-28T20:46:50 #kisslinux <merakor> Whoops
2020-01-28T20:53:39 #kisslinux <mforney> i quite like runtool from perp (http://b0llix.net/perp/site.cgi?page=runtool.8) for similar redirection issues. i use it to suspend my system: `doas runtool -F '1>/sys/power/state' echo mem`. but obviously not appropriate here
2020-01-28T21:05:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Neat
2020-01-28T21:08:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Done...
2020-01-28T21:09:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/commit/ea9dc1278ae3916ad1efe72c6afb873060879e09
2020-01-28T21:09:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Tada
2020-01-28T21:09:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I wanted to put this in a function but as it can run as both a normal user and through 'su'...
2020-01-28T21:21:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Ooh
2020-01-28T21:21:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Found how I can use posix find
2020-01-28T21:30:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > find "$@" ( ! -name . -prune ) -name "$query"
2020-01-28T21:31:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Basically -mindepth 1 and -maxdepth 1
2020-01-28T21:31:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> With one caveat
2020-01-28T21:31:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Each search path must end in /.
2020-01-28T21:39:20 #kisslinux <aarng> looking good
2020-01-28T21:39:34 #kisslinux <aarng> also: https://git.busybox.net/busybox/tree/editors/ed.c#n128
2020-01-28T21:39:49 #kisslinux <aarng> no regex support, lol
2020-01-28T21:40:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> heh
2020-01-28T21:41:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK. kiss now works with sbase find
2020-01-28T21:42:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sbase sed time
2020-01-28T21:42:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> -> Swapping '/usr/bin/sed' from 'busybox' to 'sbase'
2020-01-28T21:42:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is so cool...
2020-01-28T21:45:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sed is gud
2020-01-28T21:57:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK
2020-01-28T21:57:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Full sbase compatibility
2020-01-28T22:00:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ALSO: kiss a | grep ^sbase | kiss a -
2020-01-28T22:00:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is awesome
2020-01-28T22:07:07 #kisslinux <mforney> very nice. if you run into any problems with building packages against sbase, don't hesitate to reach out to me. it'd be great to have more people using sbase on their system to try to find and fix any incompatibilities
2020-01-28T22:07:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will do
2020-01-28T22:07:44 #kisslinux <mforney> recently i've been messing around with pkgsrc, which has been a good testing ground
2020-01-28T22:08:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Next up I'll be testing our bootup/shutdown scripts
2020-01-28T22:16:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK. Init scripts are gud
2020-01-28T22:23:29 #kisslinux <KayW> buffet: im here now
2020-01-28T22:23:37 #kisslinux <buffet> hello
2020-01-28T22:23:45 #kisslinux <KayW> Wont be for long though
2020-01-28T22:25:17 #kisslinux <KayW> have to go
2020-01-28T22:25:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-01-28T22:49:13 #kisslinux <dzove855> dylanaraps: are you there?
2020-01-28T22:50:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-01-28T22:51:49 #kisslinux <dzove855> actually i'm now working on biss, but there is something that i don't understand. It's line 90-92
2020-01-28T22:52:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Of master?
2020-01-28T22:52:40 #kisslinux <dzove855> you say'd in the comment The below commands read from '/dev/tty' to ensure they work when run from a subshell.
2020-01-28T22:52:49 #kisslinux <dzove855> what do you mean by this comment?
2020-01-28T22:52:52 #kisslinux <dzove855> yeah master
2020-01-28T22:53:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If that function is run from a ()/$() block the original tty won't be connected anymore.
2020-01-28T22:54:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Try running : $(vim)
2020-01-28T22:54:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> As an example
2020-01-28T22:54:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ': $(vim)'
2020-01-28T22:54:34 #kisslinux <dzove855> okey i see
2020-01-28T22:55:59 #kisslinux <E5ten> mforney: I don't really expect that querying terminal size on each print would tangibly decrease efficiency and switching to it from the SIGWINCH checking would drop 16 lines from the PR in exchange of 1, including removing one of the ifdefs the PR adds, I think that's a lot better and worth the tradeoff
2020-01-28T23:14:57 #kisslinux <mforney> sounds fine to me