US believes Russia could invade Ukraine ‘as soon as early 2022’

Author: Victerius

Score: 13

Comments: 15

Date: 2021-12-04 14:08:44

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daly wrote at 2021-12-04 18:52:39:

When Russia attacks Ukraine, it would be the perfect time for China to attack Taiwan. It is essentially a middle-out tactic where the defense forces are split.

Russia needs Ukraine. China needs Taiwan. Both locations are perfect "control areas of the battlespace". Any military commander would recommend an attack.

The real issue would be direct force-on-force confrontations between Russia/US and/or China/US. So far the superpowers have avoided this and worked through proxy fights. Even in Syria the US was VERY careful to avoid Russian troops.

However, in Taiwan, there are US service personnel. I don't know but I suspect there are also US "advisors" in the Ukraine. Direct superpower attacks won't end well.

The situation will get wildly out of control VERY quickly.

rchaud wrote at 2021-12-04 15:07:38:

Wonder if they'll give Russia a 48-hr ultimatum to surrender like they did with Iraq in 2003. /s

1cvmask wrote at 2021-12-04 14:25:53:

https://archive.md/YWIKc

acheron wrote at 2021-12-04 15:26:02:

Or, you know, 2014.

URfejk wrote at 2021-12-04 19:59:43:

US believed that Iraq had WMD's ...

rurban wrote at 2021-12-04 18:43:07:

Most likely they'll invade the Donbass on Christmas. They believe it's theirs, and since they always invaded their neighbors, it will happen. Just wondering what Germany under Annalena will do. She should speak up now

juanani wrote at 2021-12-04 15:05:50:

US lost their narrative a while back. Lots of thrashing about as their population can see for themselves the world only needs defending from the US. Ofcourse we need the Ruskis and Chinese to react harshly to our provocations(in the wimpest way possible too). Sad, but good data points for future 'empires'

1cvmask wrote at 2021-12-04 14:25:01:

The arguments put forth to attack Russia first. The amount of military adventures and “exercises” around Russia and the Black Sea all need a justification. My favorite is the war equivalent of a sucker punch: the preemptive war. To manufacture war and aggression you need to manufacture consent.

coldtea wrote at 2021-12-04 14:30:39:

Typical cold war speak, but now one-sided and utterly hypocritical.

First we surround you and take any opportunity to exploit your grievances with your neighbor countries and get them in our fold against you(while we're a country half the way around the world, which should have no business in the area), and then we accuse you...

gkoz wrote at 2021-12-04 15:45:21:

Some of the "grievances" include military invasions and ongoing occupation. So... why did you decide to be a hypocrite too, what's the point?

hourislate wrote at 2021-12-04 14:42:01:

Who invaded Ukraine, the USA? Russia has a long history of fucking it's neighbors. Why do you think the entirety of Eastern Europe wants nothing to do with them. You think they'll stop at Ukraine, their goal is to restore the Soviet Union and keep all these countries under their thumb. Even Putin says it was the biggest mistake in Russian history to allow the break up of their Empire.

Putin is criminal and he is no friend of the West. His aircraft loiter around Alaska and he tests US defenses every hour. Don't be an apologist for a tyrant.

nyokodo wrote at 2021-12-04 15:24:35:

> their goal is to restore the Soviet Union

More like, restore the buffer zone with defensible geographic barriers that the Soviet Union had.

Russia’s geography is terrible for defense it being positioned in the “horde lands” which allow attacking armies to drive right through. Current Russian borders require huge armies to defend in a nation that is running out of suitable army personnel due to a terminally low birth rate for decades, widespread heroin addiction, disease etc.

This move by Russia has long been expected, and it won’t stop at the Ukraine.

adriancr wrote at 2021-12-04 19:37:03:

> This move by Russia has long been expected, and it won’t stop at the Ukraine

will stop at nato borders or 99% of us will die.

5tefan wrote at 2021-12-04 14:54:23:

Please don't try to sell us the US boys as saints. They ain't. Very much the opposite.

mcquade wrote at 2021-12-04 22:32:46:

I find this comment distasteful.

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