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~detritus

Back to the topic of copyright, you are right, it doesn't exist.

Copyright: yet another emergent property of

Copyright is not an emergent promerty, that's why it doesn't exist. Somebody made that up and other people use it to enforce an artificial market. Maybe the artificial market is an emergent property of this dumb idea of copyright, and piracy is another emergent property. So is the case with other funny words, for example democracy. Democracy does not exist, it is not an emergent property, though it should be, in that case it would exist. It is just a word that people use to mean, well, a different thing each time, maybe the institutions that emerge from it are real.

Ultimately none of the abstractions we hold in our head about things that we perceive as reality are real, if all that is real is the atomic interactions between them, but I'm suspecting even those atomic interactions are not real, indeed they are less real as they are abstractions of our minds, which are themselves just emergent properties of neural synapses, which are just an idea that we abstract in our brains and....

*proceeds to eat his own tail*

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~inquiry wrote (thread):

Okay. It seems we're agreeing about what's seemingly happening, but not about some of the words that might best describe it.

One says "It's *this*!" (where 'this' is a set of one or more words). Another says, "No, it's *that*!" (where 'that' is a different set of one or more words), when (to me) the less confusing way to proceed is to perpetually remind ourselves of what you said here:

Ultimately none of the abstractions we hold in
our head about things that we perceive as
reality are real, if all that is real is the
atomic interactions between them, but I'm
suspecting even those atomic interactions are
not real, indeed they are less real as they
are abstractions of our minds, which are
themselves just emergent properties of neural
synapses, which are just an idea that we
abstract in our brains and....


	proceeds to eat his own tail*

by saying, instead, "It's best modeled/represented by *this*!" or "No, it's best modeled/represented by *that*!", because then we're acknowledging that we're working with

re-presentations/models.

Instead, we say "it's", i.e. "it *IS*", which gives the impression we're working with the actual referents, i.e. the alleged "real thing". But mind can't have/hold an "real thing". Shit, it can't even but have/hold/grasp *itself*.

So, oh yeah, the "*proceeds to eat his own tail*", the infinite recursion of symbols when you want to get down to what might be called the "bare metal" of "reality" using a tool that can't jump over its own re-presentational knees, as it were....

There's a certain "shut up and just be" to the stuff I've come to cherish. Any/all attempts to describe lead to becoming mesmerized-unto-deluded by the proverbial cave wall shadows also known as symbols/models/re-presentations taken to be the "bare metal".

(I'm vaguely remembering reading someone in the (now) distant past who emphasized the importance of letting go of the word 'is' as much as possible as a means of escaping the afore-alluded-to illusion, but I can't remember who it was.)